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Published Date:
26 August 2007
MURDER detectives probing the killing of schoolboy Rhys Jones believe he may have been the innocent victim of a revenge attack for a previous gangland murder.
As police continue to quiz five teenagers, including two girls, in connection with the 11-year-old's death, they are now quietly confident that they have established a possible motive for the attack.

Rhys was gunned down outside a pub in Liverpoo
l last Wednesday night in a crime which has stunned Britain and once again called into question the government's strategy on tackling firearms.

The murder, in the city's Croxteth district, occurred just hours before the first anniversary of the fatal shooting of Liam "Smigger" Smith, a leading member of a notorious Merseyside gang.

The 19-year-old was shot dead yards from the entrance of Altcourse prison in Liverpool after visiting a friend.

On Friday, three youths were convicted of murdering Smith following a trial which cost an estimated £5m.

Smith headed the Strand Gang, from the Norris Green area of Liverpool, who have been embroiled in a two-year "war" over respect with their rivals, the Croxteth Crew, who come from the same area where Rhys lived.

Last night, one source told Scotland on Sunday: "It is thought there was a confrontation between individuals and Rhys was simply caught in the middle.

"There would appear to be links to this tragedy and the Smith killing."

He added: "The police are publicly saying they are keeping an 'open mind' about the motive for this attack but the Smith killing is now their main line of inquiry.

"It was the anniversary of the murder and the Norris Green mob wanted to take their revenge, it would appear.

"It seems as if one of the factions decided to seek out the others and this is the tragic end result."

So far, the police have not had the response they would have hoped for to their appeals for help, and it is feared that both the Croxteth Crew and the Strand Gang have been threatening and intimidating local people.

However, such has been the reaction to the killing of Rhys that police believe, eventually, the wall of silence will be broken.

One woman, who did not want to be identified, said: "It is getting worse and worse around here. During the day it is not too bad but once the evening arrives the whole area changes.

"The kids start gathering around dusk and they are here to the early hours of the morning. I don't know what their parents think they are doing but they are not doing anything to help the situation.

"No one dares speak to them or confront them. There are gunshots going off every week and to be honest, I am not surprised that this has happened. It is just awful but maybe, maybe some good might come out of it if they finally crack down on these mobs."

She added:

"Something has to be done. This cannot be allowed to continue. An 11-year-old boy is lying dead in a mortuary. Shot by another kid. What is happening to us? The little boy had not even started senior school and that is it, his life is over."

Neither Rhys nor his family had any connection to criminality or gangs and it would appear he was, as his father, Stephen Jones, said, "In the wrong place at the wrong time."

Yesterday, the Fir Tree pub, where Rhys was shot, remained sealed off as forensic teams continued their inquiries.

One of the main lines of their investigation is the CCTV footage which was recovered from the pub's security cameras, although it is not known whether the actual killing has been caught on camera.

The three male suspects arrested in connection with the Rhys inquiry are aged 15, 16 and 19, while the girls are 15 and 18. They were arrested in the Croxteth and Norris Green areas of the city.

Two other teenagers, aged 14 and 18, who were arrested on Thursday evening, have since been released on police bail.

Yesterday, the officer heading the murder inquiry appealed for more witnesses to come forward and help the inquiry.

Chief Superintendent Chris Armitt of Merseyside Police said: "We understand that people are concerned about giving information to the police and we understand that they are frightened because that is natural.

"But what I want to say to them is: 'Listen. You have got to stand up and be counted.'"

Fall in child killings south of the Border


The number of child killings in England and Wales has halved in a decade.

In 1995, there were 63 children aged up to 15 recorded as homicide victims by police, but by 2005-06 - the most up-to-date figures available - the total fell to 31, according to the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies (CCJS).

The most recent figures available on gun crime in Scotland showed a 20% rise in overall firearms offences, from 974 in 2003-04, to 1,165 the following year.

That included a 400% increase in the number of murders using a firearm, up from two to eight.

Meanwhile, the number of offences in which a gun was fired resulting in death or injury rose by 34% from an all-time low of 242 to 325.

However, this followed a general decrease in gun crime in Scotland since the early 1990s.

There were 1,773 committed with a firearm in 1993, compared to 1,014 in 2002, while at the same time the number of killings fell from eight to three.

Figures for England and Wales show firearms murders rose by 18%, from 49 to 58, between 2005-06 and 2006-07.

'He could have been murdered anywhere'


THE drive from Rhys Jones's house to Goodison Park, the home of the little boy's heroes, takes just under a quarter of an hour.

It was a journey he made every other week with his mother Melanie, father Stephen and brother Owen, all of whom have season tickets at the historic ground.

Yesterday, there was an empty seat where the 11-year-old should have been sitting. The name of Rhys Jones has become the latest to be added to the tragic list of victims of today's increasingly lawless society.

It is often said the people of Liverpool do not care about what the rest of the country thinks of them. To an extent, they are correct.

The city is not Manchester, and does not want to be. What London does is not of any interest to us. Perhaps our closest associations are with the people of Glasgow or possibly Belfast.

But tragedies such as the shooting of Rhys bring an unwanted attention from the outside onto Liverpool.

It was the same in the days after the murder of James Bulger or in the wake of the Hillsborough disaster - the world descended on the city, commenting, generalising and then leaving, normally sneering.

Rhys Jones could have been murdered anywhere. Nottingham, Bradford, Bristol. It just so happens he has been killed in the city which has had more than its fair share of shadows.

I grew up in Liverpool and spent more than a decade as the crime reporter for Merseyside's morning paper, the Daily Post.

People ask: "Where do the guns come from?" In Liverpool, the answer for years has been simple - "lending libraries".

This illegal but lucrative business has blighted the city for years but has traditionally been where Merseyside's criminals have obtained their guns.

For a £200 fee, you could 'borrow' a Russian-made Tokarev, smuggled back into the UK following the fall of the Berlin Wall. If you did not use the gun, it could be returned gratis, but if it was discharged or lost, a further £500 would be levied.

But today, the flood of guns which has swept through the UK has led to a situation where anyone, amongst them teenagers, can get hold of a gun - so long as they know who to ask.

One youth yesterday said: "You can get one for a few hundred quid and, unlike years ago, this time it is yours to keep. They can be left in bushes or at your girl's house and picked up when it is required."

The long-barreled, black handgun which the youth who gunned Rhys down used has not been found yet, but there are dozens more available across the city.

When I started out as a reporter on Merseyside, more than a decade and a half ago, a shooting was a major story. Today they are virtually a weekly occurrence.

Sadly, it is almost inevitable that Rhys Jones will not be the last young victim of this plague.



The full article contains 1468 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 25 August 2007 6:42 PM
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  • Location: Scotland
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1

The Fly Fifer,

Fife 26/08/2007 00:19:48

Good if found guilty I would hope for a multi hanging I wish it could be public

2

doublescotch,

U.S.A. 26/08/2007 01:18:23

Not going to happen. Perp is only 16tn. mentally unstableP.C. Brigade out in hundreds. I promise you.

3

The Fly Fifer,

fife 26/08/2007 02:28:38

if guilty he was old enough to pull the trigger, so old enough to be hanged

4

doublescotch,

U.S.A 26/08/2007 06:17:44

#3 It doesn't matter. The P.C. Brigade will find an excuse and blame the victim. I am telling you this from fact alone.

5

LaSagesse,

FL 26/08/2007 08:07:38

The frontal lobe does not mature until after 25. Teenagers make quick immature decisions. They think they will never die. That's why we send them off to war. After your 911, you will bring back the draft. Then you will have no gangs on the streets.

6

Boab,

Glasgow 26/08/2007 09:16:45

At least this tragedy defeats the notion that Britain needs more guns - the 'so what if criminals shoot other criminals?' argument which shows up from time to time.

#5 So all America's hoodlums are busy being shot at in Iraq? What nonsense LaSagesse!

7

Jay Kay,

Burntisland 26/08/2007 10:06:38

I made reference in the Scotsman the day after the shooting which I stand by, bring back corporal punishment, ten lashes each with the birch for these yobs and every yob like them caught with a knife or unbelievably a gun.

Build more prisons, real prisons where you are locked away for 23 hours a day and the only visitors you will see are through 3" of plexiglas.

Need to change the law if your old enough to hold or fire a gun then prosceuted as an adult.

As said a friend of the familly was in the 50's a notorious villan, harman, in the true sense of the word, ie this man worked 12 hours a day down the pit, was a heavy drinker and gambler, fighter but he recieved the birch for his misdemeanours.

Totally changed him overnight, he knew if he continued in his old ways he would get ten more.

End of problem.

We need to let the softies in charge know that enough is enough, we have tried it your way for over ten years and this is the result.

The kids arn't educated individuals whom you can reason and debate with they are mindless thugs who only care about themselves, gettin p*ssed on buckie and seeing who they can kill next.

How long does it take to pass a law, If I were first minister of scotland I would tell you, one day because I would have every judge and solicitor in this country working on that law to make it happen.

So why is it not happening.

8

quarrybanksurfer,

Scotland 26/08/2007 10:24:33

What sentance will these youths get, , the public are supposed to feel sorry for these, they come from deprived homes, family break ups and all that drivall. It is the victims family that has to serve the live sentance. Prison sentance for life should mean life. Many people bring children up in deprived homes and single parent families and they turn out with good lifes and careers but all the media wants to give are the fact that Britains young people are out of control which is only the minority. Take a long look at history there has always been the bad element in society, drink has always been readily avaible. What needs to be addressed is television the violence and satinism that comes out of even the so called innocent programmes. They glamourize violence and sex and feed it continually into growing minds. What every happened to the watershed. Even most of the films today have violence and computer games leave me feeling hoorified. Youngster killing people on their PC!!!!!

9

George Yarns,

Pennsylvania 26/08/2007 13:33:23

The criminal who shot this young lad should obey the law. Wait. Criminals don't obey the law, do they?
Very, very sad indeed.

10

JCS,

26/08/2007 14:56:15

Everybody seems to think this is the only heinous crime ever committed. It is not the first and unfortunately will not be the last. Humans are cruel to humans. this is our legacy. We will live or die with it or from it. There is nothing we can do to stop it, though we may slow it down by teaching our children to be good people.

11

okanaganguy,

kelowna, b.c. canada 26/08/2007 16:10:46

I thought that our laws for convicted criminals was lax but the other day i read that 2 guys over there who beat,stabbed and killed someone in a drunken rage were convicted. The one chap received 14 years. Not sure what the other guy received. Does that not seem more like a slap on the wrist for a brutal murder. Forget about the frontal lobe not being developed until 25. Society today is going to hell in a hand basket. So many parents today rely on the school system to teach and even discipline their children, but don't use the strap or else. There are too many kids put on Ritalin etc. when they show signs of anti social behavior. How did we survive when we were kids. Well one thing is for sure. If we disrespected others [adults], if caught we get a good kick in the derriere and if we went home crying, the old man would dish out another one. Children today have no respect for authority. Where are the parents? Where are the guns coming from? I thought the U.K. had tighter gun laws than we have here. Obviously, tight gun control only seems to hinder the law abiding citizens. We have the same problem over here. The bad guys have the hand guns. Even in the court system, the bad guy has more rights than the law abiding citizen, regards

12

Rover 75,

Somerset & Austria 26/08/2007 16:51:19

Perhaps its time that the children of today are named, instead of always saying that these children are too young to be labelled as trouble makers.
If people know that someone's child is always in trouble with the police or local authorities, then perhaps the parents might take more interest in their children's up-bringing.
At the moment, it sounds as though these children just go out and come back when they want, without their parents saying anything, 'cause the parents don't know what they are doing, or who they are seeing.
Name the child, let people know who these trouble makers are, then see how much support and sensible advise they actually receive.

R.I.P. Rhys Jones

13

Broon an White Dug,

Central Scotland 26/08/2007 17:02:06

No matter how many ordinary people in this country have the common sense answer of genuinely being tough on crime and really punishing offenders the politicians will go on spouting nonsense about doing something but actually doing nothing except bringing in laws that only effect the law abiding majority.

All the major parties are the same there is no hope.

14

tom, HR6,

26/08/2007 18:47:33

#12

You are absolutely spot on! This is exactly a definition of how ( I hope) most decent people think.

All this garbage about frontal lobe development etc is utter nonsense. Decent standards are derived from how a person is brought up in the early years so we therefore have two scum elements - the parental scum and the frontal lobe-challenged scum.

I went to school with Gordon Brown and although I haven't spoken to him in decades I am sorely tempted to write to him and to ask him to override the judiciary, the EU, and to abandon Human Rights legislation and reintroduce capital punishment not only for the use of weapons but the possession of such weapons. AND laws to make the parents of these scum pay too.

15

tom, HR6,

26/08/2007 19:01:38

As an afterthought to #15 above I find it amazing how those things which are creative, and protect human life, such as becoming a doctor or a nurse somehow evade the minds of some people. It is so easy for some stupid cretin with a knife or gun to kill or maim someone over something stupid like "respect" but rather more difficult to take on board the skills needed to repair these injuries.

In any case how come these scum feel they have a right to "respect" when they have less mental power than a poor little earth worm?

16

Allan(handofgod137),

26/08/2007 22:37:02

So that handgun ban's really working then?

17

The Fly Fifer,

27/08/2007 00:47:54

17 nope never was meant to never will and was only to take pressure of Cullen fiasco which I believe is going to EU now

18

William L,

Magalia, CA, USA 27/08/2007 02:08:12

Jennifer, #9, you are so right. But, then, there are those who feel that if "this is so much fun, wouldn't it be more in the 'hood than sitting here in front of the PC?" And then they go out to make a bragging point. Sometimes, after the "real" shot is fired they may have a flash of: "Oh, I say; I should not have done that." But then it is too late.

Tom, #15, I have observed "scum" here whose mental capacity lies between a garden slug and a garden hose. Same thing everywhere. Unfortunately, their liberal apologists seem to demonstrate an IQ roughly equal to their hat size (in English units!).

19

American,

USA 27/08/2007 02:36:16

#5-LaSagess- You sound like a real fool. Our streets will have more gang members if there is a draft. Many of our gang members are illegal immigrants from our neighbors in the south. I don't know if the UK has any foreign member gangs.

#12-okana-Agreed.

I can't understand why people are blaming the govt. They cant really do anything about gun control because there is always the black market (besides, there are knife attacks also). The police are aware of gangs and their members, but they cant charge them just for being gang members. And over here, we have sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants-cant touch the illegal gang members either because of that. No easy answer for getting rid of gang members, unless you catch them in an illegal act. Good parenting and a good whoopass from a parent to his/her punk child is a good start.

20

LaSagesse,

Devils advocate. 27/08/2007 08:06:36

#6 BOAB in Glascow. The line said 'teenagers ...they think they will never die, sign up.'
Not American hoodlums. They don't take you with a felony conviction. How many old guys do you see signing up for Iraq?

#20 AMERICAN, USA. I spoke of the UK having a draft. When they did have one, it was bye bye at 18 and no time to hang around with gangs.
It's not PC to talk about foreign gangs you might loose your head.
If women ran all the countries and made all the decisions, there would be no wars as Estrogen is more calming than Testosterone. Exclude Hillary. as she will be president in 09. Oh look, there's an emergency number coming up that year 999. and a quote from the Bible "let us make war on HER armies"
How about your new coin the AMERO, guess it will compete with the EURO. The new North American Union will be difficult at first, road sign in French and Spanish even in Kansas Toto. But think of the cheap land you can buy in Mexico and the cheaper gas. It will be all one big country Canada, USA and Mexico. (that's why they aren't securing the border). But seeing that white people will be a minority after this union, then white history month will be possible. Shame is giving up the flag will be a heartbreaker.

21

Scottie,

27/08/2007 12:02:41

Publicly name the parents of these children. And ask what they're doing bringing up their children this way! Ask if they know where their children are in the evenings, and if not, why not?

22

Dunnie,

Canada 27/08/2007 13:25:16

1. Fine the parents - if you can find them. If they can't afford to pay it - make them do community work.

2, Take away the gang's gathering places.How? Introduce curfews. Better lighting.

3. Increased police presence - and I don't mean sitting in a squad car a 100 yards away.

4. Increased police forces.

5. Stiffer sentences.

6. Elect politicans who keep their promises by acting on the latter rather than ignoring them once in office and then cater to the PC horde who who change their tune fast enough if crime was rampant in their posh backyard.

Doublescotch - is that you, my wee HLI lassie?

23

MichScot,

USA 27/08/2007 16:08:17

#12
I agree with you.

However, there are those who really DO need Ritalin.
Also, twice when I gave my child a swat on the diaper (age 2, the terribles), people threatened to turn me in. She couldn't even feel it, as it was not a hit, but an open palm through a thick diaper! And she was being abominable! With that kind of policing, it's no wonder so many parents don't even try. Reasoning doesn't work that well at that age or with all kids, but it should be used first. This was after all else had failed.

24

Dunnie,

28/08/2007 02:05:38

Doublescotch - where are ye?


 

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