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Published Date:
22 October 2006
MORE than a million Britons have considered moving to a new home in the past year because they are frightened of teenage gangs roaming their neighbourhood, a major study has discovered.
The true extent of the so-called ned culture is laid bare in a report that found 1.5 million Britons said they had thought about moving due to violent and aggressive youths. Some 1.7 million said they stayed behind locked doors at night to avoid confrontations with youths.

The survey, conducted by left-wing think tank Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), also found that four out of 10 adults would not step in to stop a gang of teenagers vandalising a bus shelter, for fear they would be attacked.

The IPPR has now claimed Britain is in the grip of "paedophobia", with whole communities "in danger of becoming fearful" of their own children. And it also offers disturbing evidence that Scotland is raising a Lord Of The Flies generation of teenagers who prefer to spend more time hanging out with their friends than with their families.

Almost six out of 10 of all 15-year-old Scottish boys - and 48% of the nation's girls - admit to spending time with friends on four or more evenings a week. The figure is higher than anywhere else in the developed world, except Ukraine.

The report, 'Freedom's Orphans: Raising Youth in a Changing World', suggests Britons are less likely to intervene than adults in other countries if they see young yobs committing anti-social behaviour.

But it also warns that a lack of supervision of teenagers in communities where adults do not know their neighbours and where teenage groups go unsupervised on the street has increased the risk of youth crime and violence.

The document, to be published at a national launch next month, shows that young people who claim not to spend time with their parents commit more anti-social behaviour.

In an attempt to force a radical change in the developing yob culture, the IPPR calls on the government to fund alternative pursuits to keep youngsters off the streets. IPPR researchers want ministers to set up sport, art and drama clubs which children would have to attend on a compulsory basis - or their parents would face a fine.

A series of high-profile attacks and murders on law-abiding residents standing up to teenage gangs in their community has helped to create a climate of fear among adults about intervening in the face of teenage thuggery.

But the IPPR also points to the collapse in traditional communities and families for the growing gulf between the younger generation and adults.

The 200-page report analyses adult attitudes to children across Europe and suggests Britons are more fearful than their continental counterparts.

And it warns that a lack of adult supervision of teenagers roaming streets where adults do not know their neighbours has "increased the risk of youth crime and violence".

IPPR director Nick Pearce said: "In the past, local parents tended to look out for children in a community, deciding what behaviour was appropriate, how it should be dealt with and supporting each other in doing so. In closer-knit communities, adults supervised their neighbours' children.

"These days, adults tend to turn a blind eye or cross over the road rather than intervene in the discipline of another person's child, often because they fear they might be attacked."

While 79% of Britons blamed most anti-social behaviour on youngsters, only 58% of French or 62% of Italians thought the same. But while 50% of Italians would step in to stop a gang of 14-year-old boys from vandalising a bus shelter, only 39% of Britons would do the same.

Some 39% said they would walk away for fear of being physically attacked, 14% were scared of later reprisals and 12% were worried they would be verbally abused. Confronted with two or three teenagers vandalising cars, one in three adult Britons said they would probably or definitely not ask them to stop, but more than half said they would or might intervene.

Almost 70% would definitely step in if they saw two teenagers abusing or harassing a pensioner and 22% said they "probably" would say something, but 9% said they might not or definitely would not come to the person's aid. And while just over half of all Britons would tell rowdy youths outside their home to be quiet, more than a third would stay silent.

The report will recommend that every secondary school pupil is offered at least two hours a week of "structured activities". This would help keep children off the streets and give them a focus, rather than providing youth clubs with little on offer to entertain teenagers.

Martial arts, drama and sports should be provided during extended school hours, from 8am to 6pm on weeknights.

Parents who did not ensure their children attended classes could be fined - in the same way they are now punished for allowing their child to be a persistent truant.

Currently, only one in four young people have access to these sorts of activities, but there are 11,095 youth clubs in Britain.

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  • Last Updated: 21 October 2006 10:39 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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1

scottwebb,

22/10/2006 00:02:48

Let me guess, would marshal law save us ?

2

not allowed my name anymore,

22/10/2006 01:32:42

more like people are too afraid to kick the **** out of the thugs because our laws protect their ways.

violence is the only lanuage these gits understand.

3

MarkB,

Dedham USA 22/10/2006 03:00:19

What a violent place Britain is - I'm glad I live in a safe place like America!. No yobs for me, no drunken sluts vomiting in the gutter on Friday night. You people are really falling apart, aren't you? ;-)

4

Andrew Porter,

New York City 22/10/2006 03:59:33

I know the people in my building (which has 67 apts), and many neighbors in the surrounding apt buildings and houses. There is constant foot traffic on the streets, and strong community policing. There are playgrounds for children and many youth programs here. There are no problems with older children in my neighborhood. Yes, not all of NYC is as good as where I live -- but local groups and politicians constantly strive to nip the problem in the bud, before trouble starts. Didn't the expression, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure," originate in England?

5

Paul Voltaire,

22/10/2006 06:15:26

The police are no longer a presence on the streets in the UK. Every day on the local news there are tales of violence and pointless vandalism.
Also how are you meant to stop them wrecking bus shelters? What are we , the public, expected to do?

6

james,

England 22/10/2006 06:44:34

Thanks to Blair and his Labour Government .Britain has gone to the dogs. Blair has turned Britain into a third world country which is why the English language has today being turned into Pigeon English.

7

Helen,

Midlothian 22/10/2006 07:11:46

I think a curfew for all under 18s from 8pm - 6am unless in the company of a parent, grandparent or legal guardian is the only way to crack this problem. Children and young people might then start talking to their families and concentrating on their studies. Obviously they could visit a friend or attend a youth club/leisure activity if they were taken there and collected. It would also mean that parents had a much better idea of where there children were.

8

Colin Chalmers,

Amsterdam, The Netherlands 22/10/2006 07:14:19

On a recent visit to Musselburgh (close to Edinburgh) I witnessed on first hand the gangs of youths, some high on coke, roaming the streets like packs of wolves ready to pounce when the opportunity arose. Friends I spoke to have already fallen victim to their antics or are helpless as to a solution.
A similiar problem existed in Amsterdam a few years ago. It concerned a number of gangs who were out to all hours up to no good. The fact that they belonged to an ethnic group only seemed to amplify the problem in the press. The city chose a two pronged attack; police on the streets to tackle immediate problem and dialogue with the parents (fathers) of the youths so that they ultimately solve the problem instead of the hard hand of the law. This approach is beginning to bear fruit without wasting police resources.
I firmly believe that children no longer know their boundaries and that the power has shifted in their favour; thay all seem to know their *rights* and will have you up in court before you know it! The growing drugs problem in Scotland and the fact that the parents to a certain extent are failing in controlling their childrens behaviour are two deep rooted problems which need addressing.
I am myself a father of two boys and know what children are like. Sometimes you have to be firm and stand your ground because short term peace & quiet can lead to big problems further down the line.

9

Comerscroft,

22/10/2006 07:39:27

They should be rounded up like the feral dogs, put in a pound, birched then sent to mental institutions. The parents should be heavily fined.

10

JG,

Fife 22/10/2006 09:06:18

Perhaps the fact these people are spending so much time out on the prowl at night with their friends in the reason why so many are doing so badly in school. What are the parents doing? Where are the Police?

11

Cant use my name anymore-Alex,

Prisoner of the Machine 22/10/2006 09:10:51

These kids for the most part are taking their messages from Mummy and Daddy who in all probability are hooligans themselves, who would break your legs if you dared chastise or remonstrate with Wayne or Britney and got in the way of their bus shelter breaking, and people abusing activities

12

Jenny Harris,

Barry, Cymru 22/10/2006 09:46:36

My partner and I have our house regularly pelted with, well, just about everything. Now the fireworks have started. The police try, but they are overstretched at the best of times. Elderly people in our area are terrified, I won't go out after dark now and don't like being left alone in the house either. And yes, I do blame the parents. Bad parenting is behind this, I have no doubt about that. I don't wish to criminalise youngters, I know that they have not been given direction or support, I do wish local authorities would offer decent and interesting facilties for them. Tarting up playgrounds is not the answer to gangs of disaffected youths on the streets in the early hours of the morning. I just wish that something could be done for these kids... perhaps then we would not be living in fear of well, I can't call them yobs, they're just irritants really. And Alex, I was a yob in my teenage years. I know what it is like for these kids. trouble is, once it was just inner cities, now it is everywhere. The breakdown of society as a whole, with terrible morals, lack of respect for each other, arrogance, greedm vanity and selfishness is to blame for criminalising our children. Thing is, some parents don't seem able to instil any sort of decency into their kids, and you have ot ask yourself why? Society. Violence and lack of repsect for other people and animals is endemic in our media, advertising and the games industry. Kids are growing up now desensitised to the need for morality. Have been for years. It is about time we took our society back from the peddlers of hate and violence, and instilled some community values into our young. When I was growing up, you never hurt your community, you never abused your neighbours. We could all learn a lot from Islam's core value of community responsibility, something our culture has thrown out with the rest of the virtues.

13

billengland,

england 22/10/2006 10:51:47

Until parents are made to take responsibility for their children this problem will get worse.

I reserve my right to verbally correct any child who is misbehaving, whether the parent is there or not. If the parent protests I would correct them as well.

I also reserve my right to physically correct them if they are putting other people into danger.

14

Big-Joe,

Edinburgh 22/10/2006 11:21:41

This all stems from the 1970s from P M, Thatcher and the rest of the do-gooders stating that we should not smack our kids & no belt in school for behaving badly, well done Maggie and the rest, now see what is happening in our country to_day.

15

Fitzy,

Glasgow, Scotland 22/10/2006 11:34:16

I left Glasgow for 11yrs ago; I hated the gang culture then. After being away for 13yrs I thought things would improve; but they haven't. If anything they are worse. Sectarianism is disgustingly in the forefront of Glasgow culture and crowds of youths (aptly named yobs) are still terrorising local law abiding citzens. Let's stop blaming everything on drugs and tough childhoods. It's time that we made these yobs and their parents responsible for their actions. The DSS still allows most of these yobs to live of benefits as they make little or no attempt to find jobs after leaving school; but yet they seem to sport current designer gear for themselves and their next generation of baby yobs. Instead of the DSS harrassing people who can't find jobs or work because of illness (I wonder how many of these new stress-related illnesses are due to living in a society that allows teenage tearaways/yobs to control the average persons life). Isn't it time that police, DSS, Social Services etc got involved to rid our neighbourhoods of this rife disease called the yobs.

16

Fitzy,

Glasgow, Scotland 22/10/2006 12:09:38

Bring back the National Service - it's time to learn how to act like a human being; not a yob

17

maggie,kitty,

EDINBURGH 22/10/2006 12:36:40

17, you got it bang on girl, national service!, instead of wasting money on brat camps and the likes ,I think it is the one and only way to sort these creeps out.

18

Alamo,

Glasgow 22/10/2006 12:40:28

Before I retired, I thought how nice it would be to of a summer's evening to walk down to my local bowling club, watch the matches, have a couple of drinks, and walk home. Because of the yobs,I can't do that.
We used to walk to a local restaurant, have a meal and a bottle of wine, then stroll home.Because of the yobs, I can't do that.
We used to have friends round of an evening, and unless they want to risk their car being damaged, and to listen to the yobs, even through closed windows, but because of the yobs,we can't do that.
How nice it would be to go out at night to a local bridge club, country dance club etc, but because of the yobs, I can't do that.
I feel absolutely cheated by the complete failure of any government to deal with this massive problem.
I paid taxes for 45 years, so perhaps I should be due a rebate as I am not getting value for all the money I have paid.

19

Alamo,

Glasgow 22/10/2006 12:44:56

We too thought of moving, but where do you go to ? Every single area in Scotland is blighted by this problem, from the sink estates to the affluent suburbs. Can anybody here tell me where in Scotland we could move to in order to be safe from these yobs ?

20

Alamo,

Glasgow 22/10/2006 12:52:47

Last of my 3 comments....

Before next May, let's all get up off our backsides, and quiz the candidates for Holyrood. Sitting at our computers and moaning to a national newspaper is NOT going to solve anything, apart from making us feel a bit better. WE HAVE GOT TO PHYSICALLY DO SOMETHING.
As soon as you know who your local candidate for each party is, demand to know their policies, and what they are going to do about this disease.Go the hustings, go to their surgeries and DEMAND to know.
Forget the fact that traditionally you have always voted Labour or Tory or whatever, and vote for the party which you think will do something about it.

21

Cool,

22/10/2006 13:22:12

I have heard great reports about the cleaning up in New York..re thugs....there is Zero Tolerance for any small crime, as in most cases, small crimes become big crimes....this is one lesson we can learn from the USA....The news about repeat offenders in the UK is shocking,well they get away with it, the first time, the second time, even the third time...so why should they stop!If they were stopped at the first time....???

22

Douglas,

bathgate 22/10/2006 14:24:18

Why are we all moaning to the Hootsmon when we should be flooding our local police websites,councils and MPs/MSPs in-boxes. Let them all know (especially the elected ones) that they will be hounded until they do something constructive for their (our) money.

23

Mandelson,

UK 22/10/2006 15:10:52

Hang a few parents and the rest will make angels out of their children. Thats the old British way.

24

disgusted with courts,

22/10/2006 15:25:42

#3 Mark.....puleeees!!! just watch the programme "cops", or watch the news on TV, you are not even safe in an amish community in the USA, they just murdered one of them too.....schoolkids murdered, latino gangs, all kinds of gangs on the streets male and female, are you sure you live in the USA?
also you might want to watch The first 48, and these programmes come from all cities.....so you may want to rethink your statement

25

calum,

22/10/2006 15:27:17

The police are hopeless, the politicians liars, the courts impotent and the sentences meaningless, parents are disinterested and the youth are rebellious (as ever). When I was a youngster I was just as bad as the youtn of today but I had 2 things that they don't have now ......... Respect (for anyone or anything) and Fear (of anyone and anything). The feral youngsters have taken over the streets and we are are all responsible for it because our apathy in the past has allowed this. Complain to the polis, complain to the politicians, complain to the media and don't give up ...... It's all we have left to do.

26

james,

England 22/10/2006 15:46:26

Could vigilante become a byword. since law and order today is simply a mockery. already under Blair's Labour Government law and order only works for the criminal not the victim.

27

Heather,

Scotland 22/10/2006 16:10:21

I am seventeen and I hate listening to everyone refer to the youth culture and teenagers as being yobs and neds and all the other names adults seem to tar us with. Well, most adults anyway. I go to school every day unless I am extremely ill, I've never vandalised anything, I'm not part of a gang. And I'm not a minority either. Perhaps your thinking I live in affluent area with lots of activities to occupy myself, but in reality the nearest cinema is an hour away in the car, as is the nearest decent shopping centre. The nearest swimming pool is in the next town but is constantly closed because it is falling apart. I'm not whining, I'll cope, I'm just stating the facts.

I live in a place where the drug culture is out in the forefront, obvious to anyone. Where every saturday, I can see people falling out of pubs, vomitting in the street, falling over each other (if I go out that is). I go to a school where, if you listen to the grapevine, you can here of 12 and 13 year olds who have been out all night, sleeping around. Where just weeks ago, a couple of 14 and 15 year old boys assaulted an older man and filmed it on their phones. And I know this is a minority because the disgust of people my age and younger is quite obvious. We'd rather not talk to people like that, they're shunted.

And I have family I've completely disowned because their behaviour disgusts me. A cousin who knocked a girl clean out and dragged her into the middle of the road in the hope she'd be run over, her older brothers are in jail and her younger brother has just been expelled for jumping on top of a teacher. And believe me, that is the parents fault, they've seen no better example. But still, they are a minority.

So yes, I am in agreement that there are yobs, there are teenagers who should be locked up, there is no excuse for teenagers who intimidate their elders. They should be punished. But curfews and national service would only breed resentment from the law abiding youth

28

Tommy Atkins,

22/10/2006 16:57:48

Welcome to Labour's Britian where the neds have all the rights and the lawabiding are made to pay.

29

Utter Shambles,

East of Scotland 22/10/2006 17:02:50

What a load of utter B******s. Unlike most of the people who have posted here I'm involved in the Police and deal daily with youths. First a couple of facts. On my patch, youths account for about 25% of all calls to the Police, who's responsible for the other 75%? Could it be adults? Out of 100 youths who come to the attention of the Police, its reckoned only 5% are actually hardcore offenders. The reality is alot different from the Media image, and in Edinburgh/East of Scotland we can thank papers like the Edinburgh Evening News for their usually biased and ill informed comments, that never help solve problems but add to them. Another thought, where do these kids come from? Strange how communities with youth problems find every excuse possible, eg "its not our kids", "they come here from elsewhere", get a grip, and actually do your parental duties, no wonder kids spend more time with their friends if their parents don't seem interested. Final thought, interesting how in other countries the public are more willing to get involved, and stop bad behaviour - its a shame the UK now seems to have such a spineless society who would rather pick up the phone and try to get the Police or some other agency to sort out their problems than do something about it themselves. I only hope that todays youth grows up into a more positive generation, than mine have, I'm sure they will, because lets face it, they've nothing to beat.

30

micky,

edinburgh 22/10/2006 17:12:06

the problem continues to exist in most areas of country these days. Politicians seem to make all the right noise re tackling it but dont seem to be making any progress.One gets the feeling that vast majority of people just want to live their lives without fear in & around their homes, didnt we uesd to take that for granted ? The more liberal way we treat offenders does not sem to me to be working,would a return to tougher punishments make a difference ? Perhaps. Is it worth trying ? What do we have to lose ?Many ned types are well aware that punishments,if caught , are pretty flimsy. To go down road of forced curfews etc seems a mistake to me & I would have my doubts that would work as targeted people just wouldnt abide by rules. Also, I would not blame every parent, some just lose control of their kids for various reasons. Most importantly there is a groundswell of feeling within law abiding community that we are not being looked after by those in power, at some point politicians will need to address this issue. How do we feel as law abiding citizens to see vast amounts of our money spent on all sorts of schemes,most of which fail,to rehabilitate people who just dont give a **** ? No guessing required !!!!

31

Alec,

Yorkshire, and proud of it! 22/10/2006 17:19:24

#31 "its a shame the UK now seems to have such a spineless society who would rather pick up the phone and try to get the Police or some other agency to sort out their problems than do something about it themselves".

You claim to be involved with the police and yet don't seem to recognise the disgusting fact that, if a private individual "does something about it themselves" they are just likely to be taken to court for taking the law into their own hands - or be sued for assault by the scrote they have prevented from vandalising someone's car or attacking some old dear who has just collected her pension. This situation has arisen due to the efforts of the limp-wristed pinkoes of the left and this useless Labour government who were going to be "tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime".

Don't make me laugh.

32

Colin Chalmers,

Amsterdam, The Netherlands 22/10/2006 18:40:11

I grew up in East Lothian in the Thatcher era and recall vividly when the belt was banned from school; afterwhich it's widely accepted that discipline and respect for teachers started to take a nose-dive. Personally I don't think I could to do their job nor that of a police*person* out on the front line trying to appease one side whilst holding up the law on the other. Until parents stop seeing these people as the enemy and start working with them the problem is only going to get worse!

A number of previous posts are promoting the hard line of punishment and placing the blame on the government/schools/police anyone basically but themselves. This was also my initial reaction even to the point of vigilante fathers going out to get their kids off the streets. Unfortunately I was reminded that the kids steal/get the drugs from their folks or that the parents are totally disinterested in their child's activities. Surely there must be alternatives which work better without producing a generation of prison hardened teenagers. But don't get me wrong, those few who do continue to reoffend should be dealt a heay hand to deter others from following their footsteps.

Gang culture as it is known in the UK is almost non-existent in Holland.Teenagers appear to stay teenagers a bit longer here due to the involvement of parents in school and evening activities. It's good to do well in class, take part in sport and buy your mum flowers on a Sunday. Parents are encouraged to play an active role in school and they have to pay for their childs books etc. All this adds up to a positive, productive environment for all concerned where one learns to communicate and compromise instead of aggression borne out of frustration.

Moving house may seem an attractive option but the problem is widespread and beyond escape. One shouldn't have to live in fear, too afraid to go outside and seek police protection every weekend. *Old fashioned* community spirit, unity and pride needs

33

Faye,

Scotland 22/10/2006 19:46:30

Feral youth are running wild damaging public property which we all end up footing the bill in more ways than one.

Why do many adults stand by and let them do it? Is it because of the fear that the law might reprimand them for scalding someone's little darling or that these people are out of control? We all have a part to play in tackling thugs.

A lot of the feral youth haven't learned anything good from their parents.

What happened to the system where kids went to boys brigade and girls went to the Brownies to learn basic skills? What about outdoor school trips to learn how to survive overnight in the countryside? Political correctness it seems has killed this off.

These worthwhile activities seem to have suffered because of over protective parental fears of 'little sooty poppit' hurting his or her ankle.

Back to basics, that's what's needed. Schools needs to discipline kids and parents who are unable to control their kids should be given lessons on the basics.

I agree with the comment "we need more police in the streets. " Too many are sitting in cars, burning up CO2! I say more police should be out on bicycles - criminals don't expect to be caught by a cyclist.

The police aren't hopeless, they have an awful job dealing with these people who can't control their own offspring! As for politicians, well most of them are solicitors.....would you trust one?

34

Meg McMuffin,

sydney 22/10/2006 20:35:38

I had problems with ned neighbours in Leith for years. Eight years. Police unable and unwilling to do anything.

Solution? Two strapping ex-paras gave the "daddy" of one of the families a good doin'...Result? No more problems! Cost? 25 quid to each of the lads for a drink. I have their numebrs if anyone wishes to hire them!

35

JockMcCool,

22/10/2006 20:55:22

the only deterent these thugs fear is PAIN inflicted ones.


ouch i can hear the dogooders in the background

36

Bozo,

NSW Australia 22/10/2006 22:05:51

We have this problem in Australia as well predominately in the Sydney area.
What is becoming popular is Gated developments complete with security guards.

37

stephen,

West 23/10/2006 07:58:17

One of the posters 31. Smell the Coffee is right. I live in the West of Scotland and we have had kids trying to break our windows this last week. I'm working away so my wife who's still recovering from a major operation called 999. That was Monday, then when MORE of them showed up again on Tues she called 999 twice. All she could do is cower upstairs with the kids. The police didn't show..

I am sick to death of these *&^*&. I want to organise a residents group where if anyone is bothered we ALL go out to 'talk to them' with some very bright torches.. If all they understand is force they will backdown when they realise that we have a street that will stand together against them while the police show up.

Does anyone have anything useful/practical to say about this.

Are there examples of a group like this. Would the police give us guidance on how to do this..

38

Stephen,

Manchester 23/10/2006 12:50:37

I agree with the comment below.......The police are in the favour of the yobs. It's us the innocent, normal, law abiding people who suffer. We get arrested or cautioned for protecting our property, so how are we to intervene when it's us that suffer and they get away scot-free? Are we just meant to sit in our homes and let them break in or vandal our property and we're not intervene or stop them? Oh I forgot....they've now got easy access to lethal weapons, sick enough to look like a horror film with the end result at what they can do. Thanks Tony and Prescott, oh and the rest of the boring suits in parliament. They give out orders, but are more bothered about they're pay packets and to increase poverty in this country.....easily with tax increases and pointless "laws".
Look at that school teacher in Manchester last year, or similar, she was being tormented for months, she did no harm in warning nasty, mindless, fearless yobs from her property. By shooting a BB gun to the ground??!! Yet spinless yobs, stab people, glass people, shoot people and attack in gangs. She lost her job and got arrested. What's all that about? She got laughed in the face by teenagers, who didn't even get cautioned. Well, that doesn't stop them anymore, they're fearless of police now, so that means, the police are scared of them. What hope to normal, civilised people have now?

39

Julie,

westside 24/10/2006 09:22:47

I have read this whole thread and I think most people need to get real!

It's time to stop getting sidetracked with fingerpointing and stereotypes! School shootiings are not an every day or even every year occurance which 'happens with sickening regularity' in the US as the BBC said in a report recently. Likewise most countries have some youth crime. But most countries are experimenting with ways to deal with it- we should all take notes and share what works and attempt to implement those which do!

We can't sit back and say the police this, Tony Blair that---these problems are not new during the Blair era. They go hand in hand with too many people, not enough supervision, drugs, boredom, lack of parenting skills and sometimes druggy parents with overindulgent grandparents. Some kids are just bored and trying it on, and in groups they egg each other on and get a buzz out of it. Others have been brought up to think its funny and okay. If you approach THESE kids their parents will be throwing rocks WITH them later on- this I KNOW from experience! And organised activities til 6 pm are not going to help with the 7:30-10:30 pm gangs! However we cannot say the police, the politicians and the public do not have a role to play- we pay taxes and mortgages we should have access to appropriate laws and law enforcement without being scoffed at for phoning the police when we or our property are being criminally attacked!

A multipronged response is necessary. It must involve the community, police and local authorities. Provision of CCTV and security in targeted areas, an action plan for the community so WE know what WE can do. There should be training for people in the community, and parents of repeat offenders with their little darlings need to be put in some sort of training programme followed by heavy fines for both and community service for repeat offences. Maybe mandatory community service for all teenagers would not be a bad thing- it teaches

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Stephen,

Manchester 25/10/2006 12:36:51

The conclusion for everything here is, not all teenagers should be tarred with the same brush, but they're not all perfect either. Social Deprivation in socially deprived areas are the main cause for this out of control Yob Culture and the parents are as caseless, spinless, and as lazy as their children.
It's been an issue for years, the lower class and even the working class play a part in it.
Bored teenagers have had a poor upbringing, but, it hasn't stopped the wannabe yobs from making something of their lives. Parents are to blame, but the children have not been stopped occupying themselves or making something of themselves. They're just plain lazy and expect everything to be handed to them on a plate. They find it an achievement getting involved in gangs, stealing and just living life as a cliche' - class A thug.
But, there's no point in hiding the fact that thugs however old or young will be around, causing havoc, creating fear for innocent, honest people and controlling "their territory". There's not enough police around, there never will be, so England, Wales and Scotland, and even Ireland will always have a Yob Culture.
There's no funding to support or occupy teenagers, or even kids from the age of 10 to 13, especially when their parents have made a mess of their lives. Politics and the Home Office dont care, they're more bothered about bringing more pointless Immagrant workers into the country, tell me the point of that? Why do we need Migrant workers? Give the work to the Yobs and secure them a future, not to people from other countries having responsibilties and problems taken on by us.
This is what's messing up the UK, Migrant Workers, the recent ones that have come into this country in the last 5 years Over populating Britain, it's bad enough as it is. I'll say it now and carry on saying it, they're not needed!!! I'm not racist, i'm just being realistic!

Another thing, where does our tax money go? Wher


 

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