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Published Date: 08 November 2009
PRESIDENT Barack Obama moved to reassure a nation shaken by the mass shooting on an army post in Texas yesterday by stating that the training designed to keep US forces safe abroad prevented further deaths and ended a rampage at Fort Hood.
Praising what he called the heroism that ended the rampage on the nation's largest army post, the president described the exchange that left 13 dead and 30 others wounded on Thursday as a tragedy.

In his weekly radio and internet address on the we
ekend before Veterans Day, Obama praised those who serve or have served in uniform and reminded the public of their diversity – a move designed to calm tensions around the suspected gunman, Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

"They are Americans of every race, faith and station. They are Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and nonbelievers," Obama said. "They are descendants of immigrants and immigrants themselves.

"They reflect the diversity that makes this America. But what they share is a patriotism like no other."

Obama called for patience while officials piece together what happened.

There have been no updates on Maj Hasan's condition but the army has confirmed he is "unable to converse". Earlier it emerged he was stopped in his tracks by policewoman Kimberly Munley, who shot him four times, even though she had been shot herself.

President Obama used his weekly radio and internet address to praise Munley and other officers who stopped Hasan.

"We cannot fully know what leads a man to do such a thing," he said. "But what we do know is that our thoughts are with every one of the men and women who were injured at Fort Hood. Our thoughts are with all the families who've lost a loved one in this national tragedy."

But Obama said while "we saw the worst of human nature on full display, we also saw the best of America."

"We saw soldiers and civilians alike rushing to aid fallen comrades, tearing off bullet-riddled clothes to treat the injured, using blouses as tourniquets, taking down the shooter even as they bore wounds themselves," he said.

"We saw soldiers bringing to bear on our own soil the skills they had been trained to use abroad – skills that have been honed through years of determined effort for one purpose and one purpose only: to protect and defend the United States of America."

Amid fears of a possible anti-Muslim backlash after the attack, Obama also stressed the multinational diversity in the US armed forces.

Japan's foreign ministry said Obama has delayed his visit to the country by a day and will now arrive on Friday 13 November.

It is thought the delay is to allow Obama to attend a memorial service for those killed.

But as the US continued to come to terms with what had happened, a Palestinian uncle of Hasan said that his nephew loved America and wanted to serve his country but that his work as a military psychiatrist had driven him to tears.

His uncle Rafik Hamad, 64, said that Hasan was emotionally shaken by his work treating US soldiers returning from war zones. Still, he said, Hasan wanted to serve his country because of the opportunities it had given him as an American.

"I think I saw him with tears in his eyes when he was talking about some of the patients, when they came overseas from the battlefield," Hamad said, speaking in halting English. "One has no face, one no legs." Hasan struggled to appear calm and unaffected to his patients, his uncle said.

He added that his nephew told him that he did not expect the work to be as stressful as it was and complained that it was too much to bear.

"He didn't have enough time to spend with all the patients... I think he couldn't handle it as he wanted to," Hamad said, speaking at his home near the West Bank town of Ramallah.

The army major was harassed by other soldiers because of his Muslim faith but was not angry, his uncle claimed. A cousin living in Ramallah also said Hasan complained of harassment. Hasan told his family of one incident in which people threw nappies at his house with the message "this is your head cover" written inside, a reference to the scarves and other head coverings that many Muslims traditionally wear.

Someone also vandalised Hasan's car, drawing a camel on the bodywork and scrawling across it the words "camel jockey" – a racist epithet for Arabs, Hamad said.

"He really wasn't angry; I didn't see anger.

"As a matter of fact I felt that he feels sympathy for them because they are ignorant and that's their level of understanding," Hamad said.

He said he last saw his nephew two years ago while on a visit to the US.

Hasan's parents died several years ago and he has a brother living in the West Bank town of El-Bireh and another in Virginia. Both siblings have kept silent over the incident, leaving more distant relatives to speak.

His uncle described Hasan as a conservative Muslim but not an extremist. He said he had few friends but hoped to get married.

The family last heard from Hasan about two weeks ago, when he told his 94-year-old maternal grandmother that he did not want to be deployed abroad with the military.

Hamad said he was still in "shock and denial" over the shooting.

"I don't think he could do that. At the same time, I don't know how to relay that to the victims and their families," he said. "I feel for them and I wish that (it had] never happened."





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  • Last Updated: 07 November 2009 7:18 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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John Cameron,

St Andrews 08/11/2009 13:04:03
A year into office, Obama seems a curiously cold blooded president. It is difficult to tell whether any event or issue truly moves him. In the aftermath of the Fort Hood massacre he was positively surreal. Here was an American Army major and devout Muslim who shouted "Allahu Akbar" as he opened fire and murdered 13 US soldiers. Yet Obama treated the event as if it had happened on the far side of the moon. Completely missing was the eloquence he employs when talking about himself. Absent too was any feeling of empathy with the victims' families such as would have been obvious in an address by Reagan or Clinton – or even George Bush. Obama needs to show Americans that he can relate to what they are going through and take some responsibility for current events.
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Jobless recovery,

08/11/2009 13:18:54
Congressman Brad Sherman admits explosives found in dust of World Trade Center

http://www.infowars.com/congressman-brad-sherman-admits-explosives-found-in-dust-of-world-trade-center/
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ii1111,

USA 08/11/2009 14:00:37
From the text of the article....

But Obama said while "we saw the worst of human nature on full display, we also saw the best of America."

this does not match your headline....

Obama claims Fort Hood shootings revealed 'the best and worst' of America

You have misquoted him in the headline and made him look more of an a-- than he already is.

The Headline should be corrected with an apology.

Don't make me come over there.

;-)

Cheers

David
USA
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Wally,

By The rivers of babylon (USA) 08/11/2009 15:59:40
I see that in #4 an Alex Jones web-site is referenced. congratulations to Scotsman for reversing their decision to screen out Alex Jones web-sites. Infowars.com is one of his web-sites and frequently censored by Scotsman. I see his other web-site is still censored.

I have no idea what happened in Ft. Hood on Friday. it is a horrible tragedy no matter what. However, on the day it happened there were reports in the national media that there were more than 1 shooter involved killing people. They quoted eye-witnesses who said multiple men dressed in black with faces covered were shooting and killing. It was also reported that the Palestinian immigrant shooter was killed. Later it was reported he's not dead, he's in the hospital. It was also reported on that day that a police officer was killed, yet she was not killed later reports say.

It took a long time to put this shooter out of commission. That is so typical. As Alex Jones has documented so frequently in these mass killings the authorities hold the police back and prolong the killing. It happened at Columbine and it happened at Virginia Tech. Did it happen here?

We have no real idea of what happened is my contention. Wild theories like those promoted by Jones may very well be true. based strictly on the facts reported in the national media and experience over time.
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Sandi31,

08/11/2009 17:07:47
Wally, from all I have read, it did not take a long time to put the shooter out of commission and nobody held anyone back from doing so. The "authority" involved here was the US Army, and they're not about to stand back while someone shoots up their biggest base. It was over, thanks to Sgt. Munley, who was herself shot three times and who almost died, in a very short period of time.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 08/11/2009 20:17:48
sandi, this fellow changed his ammunition clip on his pistol more than 10 times. can it be that nobody was in the vicinity with a gun - on an army base? Many people are questioning why it took so long to get him out of action. The police officer who shot him was on the way to her job and heard about it on the radio. She diverted herself to the scene and began shooting.

At columbine in colorado the police were purposely held back from the shooter for hours and this caused many deaths. At Virginia Tech it was the same, police were instructed not to challenge the man for a long time, until a SWAT team arrived, but the SWAT team had to come from 1 hour away. While there were police officers at the scene ready to stalk the shooter they were told not to, and this caused the high death toll.

Because of this history we should be suspicious. here is a link showing a New York Times article and a video of the post commander talking about how multiple people were not only doing the shootings, but put into custody. and then the guy also says that one shooter was killed. Now we're getting a completely different story from what came out early. How do these mistakes happen? who are these eye-witnesses who saw multiple shooters dressed in black and faces covered?

http://www.infowars.com/12-dead-31-wounded-in-base-shootings/

At link you can see video of the post commander saying there were multiple shooters and that one shooter was killed.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 08/11/2009 20:27:56
also, we should consider that this shooter named Nidal Malik Hasan was of Palestinian origin. This is the root of his motivation apparently. Persecution against the Palestinians has been horrific and for over 50 years.

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=15270

http://www.imemc.org/index.php?obj_id=53&story_id=56996

The US government itself participates in the effort through funding and through overt actions to starve the Palestinian people. The Palestinians are not allowed to import an appropriate quantity of food into their country. They must smuggle it in illegally in order to eat. The US Army has assigned some personnel to the task of destroying those tunnels, thus trying to starve to death 1.5 million people. This fellow has family among those 1.5 million. How can you expect him to be happy about his assoication with the US Army?

He also went to school at Virginia Tech University. That is a very right-wing place where many people have taken christian scripture and perverted it to support war and death. I think that over a long period of time he must've had trouble tolerating many things.

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Sandi31,

09/11/2009 02:14:04
Wally, I have found absolutely no reference to the shooter changing his ammunition clip at all. Please either supply a reference or admit you are wrong. From his first shot, it lasted ten minutes, not an extended period of time, ending when the shooter was shot by two civiiian police officers.Sgt. Munley is a member of the base SWAT team. She was doing the job she was trained to do and she did it very well.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ylqnoun

Soldiers on base don't typically carry weapons unless they are on duty. Many of them live there with their families.

It is my understanding that the shooter was born in the USA.He is of Palestinian heritage. If he had questions about the US military, why did he volunteer to join and allow the US taxpayer to put him through medical school? As it happens, there are conscientious objectors at Fort Hood doing non-combat jobs. He must have known this, but chose to take the action he did. It was not a spur of the moment breakdown, he planned it over months.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 09/11/2009 14:00:37
Sandi, the man shot 43 people with 2 handguns. of course he changed his clip many times. How many I don't know, I bet 10.

Why did the military police not respond quickly? this civilian police officer was on her way to work hearing about it on the radio. surely the emergency system set off by the 911 call would've sent military police on post to the scene immediately if there was not interference from authorities.

I gave you a link with a video on it of the post commander saying that there were multiple shooters, not just one. how does a post commander give a press conference and say that there were multiple shooters killing people when there was only one. Rueters, MSNBC, Fox, CNN they all reported that there were multiple shooters. Some reported the shooters were dressed in black, head-to-toe. The MPs were very slow to respond to say the least. I'd say there's a high probability that the whole thing was a black op designed to inflame general hatred of muslims in support of perpetual war. and that the palestinian immigrant fellow is just the fall guy. The government has systems for brainwashing or mind-controlling vulnerable people and getting them to do anything they want.
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right of center,

Chicago 09/11/2009 14:44:07
#12 Wally

The shooter had a semi-automatic handgun, it used a magazine, NOT a clip. Those you do not have a clue constantly misuse the word clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF21sihEgOU

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Wally,

How Can We Sing The Lord's Song In A Strange Land? 09/11/2009 17:37:19
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

I see the muslim fanatic who shouts 'god is great' also goes to strip clubs. and I also see that people seem to have a mental block over the fact that on the day this happened many news organiazations (including Reuters, MSNBC and others) said there were 3 shooters and even dressed in black with faces covered. even the top general at Ft. Hood said this (see video in link I put up). more and more we wonder what really happened.

the guy shot 43 people, but how many shooters were helping him? can you say 'INSIDE JOB!!!'? we need justifications for war. Now we have another justification and protesters on tv holding signs that say 'Islam Is The Enemy'.

Why would the US secretly back a terror event against its own soldiers? Why would anyone provide helicopter support to the Taleban in Afghanistan?

http://www.iwpr.net/index.php?apc_state=hen&s=o&o=p=arr&s=f&o=356886

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Sandi31,

09/11/2009 18:07:56
Jeez, Wally. They initially arrested two other people, but once it was determined that they had nothing to do with it, they were released. Maybe you should try more run-of-the-mill news sources.
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