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Dalai Lama aides to raise 'concerns' with China



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Published Date: 04 May 2008
REPRESENTATIVES of the Dalai Lama were arriving in Hong Kong yesterday, ahead of the first meetings with Chinese officials since violent anti-government protests erupted in Tibet.
Prime minister Samdhong Rimpoche of the Tibetan government-in-exile based in Dharmsala, India, said talks would begin today in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, a neighbour of Hong Kong.

The Dalai Lama's representatives, Lodi Gyari and Kelsa
ng Gyaltsen, would convey "deep concerns" over China's handling of the situation in Tibet since protests broke out in March and would put forward "suggestions to bring peace to the region", the Tibetan government-in-exile said. It called the meetings "informal talks with representatives of the Chinese leadership".

China has faced mounting calls to negotiate with the Dalai Lama, and some experts believe Beijing agreed to meet to ease pressure ahead of the Olympics, which start in August.

The Tibet talks were not mentioned yesterday in China's state-run media, but two articles continued to accuse the Dalai Lama and his supporters of organising riots with the aim of breaking the far western Himalayan region of Tibet away from Chinese rule.

"The hope of realising Tibetan independence by the Dalai clique has become dimmer and dimmer. When their hopes shattered, the Dalai clique launched bloody violence. This was their last act of madness," the Tibet Daily said.

The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet amid a failed uprising in 1959, says he is seeking meaningful autonomy for Tibet rather than independence from Chinese rule. He has decried "cultural genocide" in his homeland, which has a unique Buddhist tradition distinct from the rest of China.

The Dalai Lama is deeply revered by Tibetans. Men in that position have traditionally been regarded as both the spiritual and political leader of Tibetan Buddhists. Thubten Samphal, spokesman for the Tibetan government-in-exile, has said the Dalai Lama's envoys will meet with the head of China's United Front Work Department during their visit.

The department is designed to deal with influential people in groups outside China's Communist Party and sway them into taking the party's side. It is directly under the Communist Party's central committee and often deals with issues related to Tibet and Taiwan.

The United Front Work Department hosted earlier talks between the two sides. China and representatives of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile held six rounds of inconclusive talks that foundered in 2006.

Since the last talks, the department has gained a new boss, Du Qinglin, a former minister of agriculture who more recently ran Sichuan province, where there is a large Tibetan population.

China says 22 people died in violence in Tibet's capital of Lhasa in March, while overseas Tibet supporters say many times that number have been killed in protests and the security crackdown across Tibetan regions of western China.



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Guga II,

Rockall 04/05/2008 01:50:01
Here's an interesting article that's worth reading:

http://www.feer.com/essays/2008/may/tibets-legal-right-to-autonomy
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 03:00:42
Why is it that the lowly coward that calls himself the leader of the Tibetan people, the Dalai Lama, can't be in Hong Kong himself? if these meetings are so important. He could care less about the people, he just wants glory for himself, having never raised a finger in his life to help the native Tibetans. He is the lowest form of life, as useless as they come. Kind of like the pope that represents the criminal church calling themselves Catholics. The west just keeps falling for this crap, and for some reason can't see that China is doing all that it can for its citizens, that includes Tibet, a legal province of China.
The Dalai Lama is nothing more than a liar and a coward, and definitely not a leader.
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the arctic 04/05/2008 03:46:54
#3

There is a comparison of Catholic and Tibetian Buddhism that I don't get. How will Beijing deal with pollution and politics after the Olympic games?

Boycot those who do not meditate on the transcendental.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 08:49:46
#4 brian mcc,the arctic,
I was actually comparing their so called leaders, both of whom are a farce, both of whom think that they are more than mere mortals. Holy or spiritual leaders, what a joke, or should I say outright lie?

Their religions are a farce as well, as are all religions. Religion is there to 'guilt' you out of your money, as if there is a way to buy your self into this so called heaven they always promise you.

All you need to do is to help someone whenever you can , and that is all the religion you'll ever need. Churches are for suckers, not for those who can think for themselves.

As far as your meditations go, just another form of superstition, live the real life, no need to meditate.

Most wars are fought in the name of some kind of religion. need I say more?
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Guga II,

Rockall 04/05/2008 09:24:33
#3 Skidmark.

You really do spout such utter garbage at times. I can only assume that you have been so thoroughly brainwashed since you were a child that you are incapable of thinking for yourself, or knowing right from wrong.

Do we really have to keep on telling you about the Chiese gangster government and its attempted genocide of the Tibetan people? Do we have to keep telling you about their butchery of the Falung Gong, their forced sterilisations and forced abortions without anaesthetics, their imperialist ambitions, their treating their own people like dogs, the fact that their own people don't have any democracy or freedom of speech?

I could go on, but we've told you all this and much more time and time again. As I said, you are either a brainwashed low life political cadre, or you are being well paid by the gangster government of yours to sit on the Internet and tell lies as often as possible in the hope that people will believe you (they won't).

The very fact that you have apparent freely available use of the Internet, unlike the majority of your countrymen, shows that you are a gangster government stooge and lick-spittle.

Boycott the Gangster Olympics.
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 10:04:01
and you, goo goo, are terminally boring, your accusations have been proven false so many times I'm not going to waste my breath on you.

Hey postmark, did you see the Taiwan government got caught so smart, losing $30 millions...for shame...for shame... but you know what they say... if you dip your finger in the ink pot your hands will get dirty.
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 10:37:36
You should see the sponsors out in full force in Sanya.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 11:25:59
#7 Mashimaro,
No Mashimaro, I actually have not seen anything about the Taiwan government losing that money, I will check the news later.

I wonder where our most trusted COMRADE James Donald is today.

#6 Guga ll,
Thanks for all your compliments, I see that we're still the best of friends. I'm so happy to see that you agree with me that this whole Tibet thing is just a political show, for all of you westerners to jump on the Tibet bandwagon.
I hear that the music being played on that bandwagon is the 'pied piper', that's why you're all so quickly and blindly falling over each other to jump on the wagon. Careful you don't fall off, there will be nobody to catch your fall, fools are left to fend for themselves.

It's so good that Mashimaro and myself are the only ones with access to the internet, pity for all of those untold thousands of internet bars though, all those computers, and no customers. Maybe you'll be kind enough to send part of your salary over to them, Guga ll, that way don't go the way of all those poor Tibetans, you know the ones you claim that we neglect. The very same ones that are thriving and making babies as we speak.
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 11:40:19
Mongolians too
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Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 04/05/2008 12:19:44
Good luck to the Tibetans in their battle for freedom. Let's hope they succeed in kicking the Chinese out.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 04/05/2008 12:56:12
#11 Urban Guerrilla,
The Tibetans, under the 'leadership' of the Dalai Lama, are not looking to kick the Chinese out, they are in fact looking for autonomy, in other words, looking to govern themselves within the borders of China. That will keep the Chinese there, Tibet has no problem with that. The Chinese government has a problem with how the Dalai Lama supporters went about the way to get that autonomy, by butchering anybody that got in their way, and burning anything that got in their way. So how can the west possibly condemn the Chinese government for acting in a responsible manner to protect its citizens? I just don't follow the west's way of thinking.
Your government, assuming it is responsible, would have responded in the same way, I hope, to keep you and your fellow citizens safe from a bunch of rioting murderers.


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Edinburgh 04/05/2008 13:10:43
#12, nobody here believes a word you say, any more than people now believe the lies told by Hitler or Stalin. (Chairman Mao, by the way, probably killed more than Hitler and Stalin put together.)

Chinese invaders out! Long live free Tibet!

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04/05/2008 14:48:57
#6 Guga ll,
China matches US in online use



CHINA'S booming population of internet users has soared to 221 million.
This ties China with the United States for the biggest number of people online as of the end of February, according to figures reported today.

This article appeared in your very own Scotsman about two weeks ago, by now probably page 8 or 9 of the international section of the above mentioned newspaper.

Read it and weep.
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Mashimaro,

04/05/2008 15:14:35
#13 "Chinese invaders out! Long live free Tibet!"

It'll "live" for about a week.
Free Tibet, rather like a "democratic United States" is a myth. It never existed and it won't exist in our life times.
But please, scr*w over millions of people for your fantasy.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 15:45:03
#15 Mashimaro,
Maybe you can back up my statement about the Dalai Lama not looking for an independant Tibet, just looking for self rule and autonomy. I can't find where he made that claim, but I read it within the last week or two. Maybe then the Urban Guerrilla can see that I'm not making this up.
Thanks Mashimaro and good night, it's been a long day.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

04/05/2008 15:50:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inWKFKv9UA&feature=related

You got to watch this right to the end folks...it shows you how information is filtered and censored in China....
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04/05/2008 15:53:45
Is it not strange, how the Chinese people are really superstitious...is it not at odds with communism?.....are they in fact, replacing the need to believe in supernatural elements with less threatening (to the CCP) superstitions...?

I feel so sorry for these people...trapped by the communist boot...
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 15:54:00
unfortunately, Horrible Cankers, I don't address street filth such as yourself.
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Biker,

Ayr 04/05/2008 15:55:21
Hi Cankers Good weekend?. Interesting program on channel 4 about a week ago. It concerned the sale and purchase of organs from China. Apparently most of the organs are sold to Japan and Tiwan whith flawed or indeed NO tisue matching resulting in a failure rate of up to 40%. This after the organ has been paid for. No wonder they attempt to keep it quiet
Postcrap. Again with the rubbish and obfuscation. Why should the Dalai Lama attend the meeting, is your leader attending? No he isn't and claiming that security is the reason. You are a disgrace Kanuk.
Mashimaro. Abit rich inviting others to screw over millions of people. Pots and Kettles perhaps?
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

04/05/2008 15:56:32
3...Skidmark....You'd have his kidneys devilled for breakfast mate....think he's that daft?...away ye go ya hauf wit ye!
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 15:58:10
Mashimaro,
Never mind Mashimaro, this article mentions that very fact about what the Dalai Lama said, I guess that I can't see the forest for the trees, been burning the candle at both ends lately, trying to run our business and a full time job. Thanks again Mashimaro, much appreciated.
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China 04/05/2008 16:02:08
Postmark, the Dalai Lama does not want an independent Tibet, just greater...note the world 'GREATER' autonomy for the Tibetan AUTONOMOUS region.
It always amuses me to think that anyone would accept the word of an unelected religous fundamentalist minority noble slave owner as being the spokesman for his people, but apparently that is what the west does.
I shall have to track down the references.

http://www.dalailama.com/news.42.htm

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Tibet_seeking_autonomy_not_separation_Dalai_Lama/articleshow/2974709.cms

"saying he wants autonomy to preserve the unique culture of Tibet" - yeah like slavery, the chopping off of limbs and flaying children alive etc

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--dalailama-colgate0422apr22,0,1571830.story


man, just google it.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

04/05/2008 16:04:25
21...Hi Biker...he aint no Kanuk....he's Chinese through and through....this is not a matter of defending a country that he wants to live in...he's CCP through and through...oh you missed a cracker the other day....Mushymarrow claimed that I was a 'CIA agent'...me and him indoors were in knots, rolling about on the floor...you see, they keep censoring my posts and are wondering why I have not been banned....so obviously I am a government plant of some kind....aaaaah the secret shall remain unanswered....

Skidmark and Mushymarrow may well be the same person but either way, one of them is Dragonhead...he was supposed to be in China thanks to a Chinese wife (good reason to move there of course)and was also defensive to the point of neurosis re his adopted country...not normal....I believe that Dragonhead was a CCP plant...the Chinese government knowing full well the reaction to their hosting the olympics and awaiting the fall out...I believe that Dragonhead was one of many CCP infiltrators who have been posting on forums all over the world....defending China from a non-chinese standpoint...to give their ID more authenticity..think about it...all his posts defending the Chinese government...their policies re execution, criticising other countries...classic CCP tactics and propoganda...

...either that or they are screwballs...but they have been trolling here for a while...that's obvious..ie Polly Anna...Hemingway...Landman...Jewel...Stanford...etc etc etc....CCP troll groupies....ie Postmark or Mashimaro....
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 16:05:26
Biker "Interesting program on channel 4 about a week ago. It concerned the sale and purchase of organs from China. Apparently most of the organs are sold to Japan and Tiwan whith flawed or indeed NO tisue matching resulting in a failure rate of up to 40%. This after the organ has been paid for. No wonder they attempt to keep it quiet"

What's more amazing is that I told you this very thing way back when we first started talking but you seem to have forgotten...

"Mashimaro. Abit rich inviting others to screw over millions of people. Pots and Kettles perhaps?"

*sigh - groundhog day again* Biker...life expectancy in Tibet under the Dalai Lama - 35 years old. Life expectancy in Tibet in 1960... 65 years old.
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postmark54,

04/05/2008 16:14:51
#21 Biker, I left this message for you yesterday, feel free to read it now,

And yet you've shoved your head further up your @ss, how is that even possible?
Nobody is starving in China, unless they've got themselves lost in the desert or some mountain range somewhere, these things happen, nobody can prevent that. The reports you quote that come out of China about starvation are blatant lies yet again, that's why you believe them, because they tell lies about China, a country you so blatantly hate.
And speaking about your head being up your @ss, you refer to the Tibetan Nomads, 'Nomad' meaning you have no home, and wander around trying to carve a living out for yourself, your family and livestock. Hard to keep track of these people, they don't stay in the same place very long, and if they happen to starve, that is a natural thing, no government can be held accountable for the actions of Nomads, they choose to move around, nobody forces them to.
Biker, one good thing, if you manage to stick your head any further up your @ss, it will soon pop back out through your neck, so not all hope is lost for you.
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Mashimaro,

China 04/05/2008 16:24:02
Hey postmark.. I hope you're not implying that us nomads are inferior people.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China, 04/05/2008 16:27:55
Hi Mashimaro,
Too tired to imply anything, but yet can't fall asleep, too much fun playing with Biker.
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Mashimaro,

04/05/2008 16:35:46
Fun? I find him so tedious. He's got nothing to him. Just the same old bs, repeated over and over again. At least HC comes up with new sh1t every now and then..."OH GOD...SADDAM HAS A BIG MEAT GRINDER..." type stuff.
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Biker,

Ayr 04/05/2008 16:58:49
Postcrap. I read the sorry littany yesterday and replied. You might want to read that. Fool, The only place you could have fun is in your bath playing with your "boat"
Mashimaro. You said at #24It always amuses me to think that anyone would accept the word of an unelected religous fundamentalist minority noble slave owner as being the spokesman for his people, but apparently that is what the west does.
Amazing you do exactly the same with your government, eAccept the words without question. As for the failure rate of the organs , no you didnt. You actually had the timmerity to deny that it happened at all, only to about face later. You can spin but you cammot rum.
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Biker,

Ayr 04/05/2008 17:00:45
Good points all Cankers. Bet the CIA are glad to have you on their side (snigger). Bet when the Olympics are over these idiots return to their mundane existance. Probably packing Steak tubes for transport.
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Lord Killwillie,

Killwillie Castle 05/05/2008 03:31:01
25 Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen

You are a real paranoid nutter.
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Mashimaro,

05/05/2008 03:33:22
I would really like to know what you people believe happened on the June3/June4 crackdown. Any photos to support your theories and dungeon and dragon fantasies would be good. Thanks.
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Mashimaro,

05/05/2008 09:36:21
#Biker "Mashimaro. You said at #24It always amuses me to think that anyone would accept the word of an unelected religous fundamentalist minority noble slave owner as being the spokesman for his people, but apparently that is what the west does.
Amazing you do exactly the same with your government, eAccept the words without question."

Our government is not in power because of the minority. They are not the nobles who imposed slavery and serfdom on our people.

"As for the failure rate of the organs , no you didnt. You actually had the timmerity to deny that it happened at all, only to about face later. You can spin but you cammot rum.

You talk absolute and utter carp here. I told you. I admitted to it and in fact, I told you about the prionser that was alive when it happened. Do not put words into my mouth. I wrote an article on this very case, the article which I have on several occasions offered to send to you, but you have ignored...remember? You should really start taking the altzheimers medication sometime.

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Biker,

Ayr 05/05/2008 20:36:31
Mashimaro. You said You talk absolute and utter carp here. I told you. I admitted to it and in fact, I told you about the prionser that was alive when it happened. Do not put words into my mouth. I wrote an article on this very case, the article which I have on several occasions offered to send to you, but you have ignored...remember? You should really start taking the altzheimers medication sometime.
My spinning and deluded friend, dont you get dizzy?
You told us about the live organ removal, only after it became recognised fact!!. You have NEVER posted any information about organ replacement failures or indeed the recipient countries. You realy are becoming tiresome now. Repeat the same drivel and even you start to believe it.
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Biker,

Ayr 05/05/2008 20:39:25
Cankers. These people are even sillier than I first considered. Postcrap is still in a class of his own though, and you could be right. Postcrap could be Masher's alter ego. Do you suppose he changes clothes and hat when he changes identities?
Good fun this eh?
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Mashimaro,

China 06/05/2008 04:28:40
Baker: "You told us about the live organ removal, only after it became recognised fact!!. You have NEVER posted any information about organ replacement failures or indeed the recipient countries. You realy are becoming tiresome now. Repeat the same drivel and even you start to believe it."

First of all, live organ removal is not a fact. There is absolutely no proof of this whatsoever. the only live organ removal that we have proof of is that of the Dalai Lama in Tibet ordering skins to be removed from his child slaves. Anything else is rumour and conjecture.
I could only find two credible shreds of evidence that this might, sometimes be the case IN ERROR. It is not policy.
I did tell you about the high rejection rates when I told you about the article. If this website's search engine was not so poor I would go back and look itup for you. I also brought up the fact that the prisoners were not tested for various diseases so the recipient could likely get whatever diseases the prisoner had.
You seemed to have ignored that too.
At the time I said I had no problem with taking prisoners organs and also I had no problem with their executions being arranged at the most efficinet time. Do you recall that? Hmm? I said the British doctors I had spoken to thought it was against human rights that the prisoner had not given consent or might be co-erced into giving consent and I said that did not bother me at all...what bothered me was... blah blah rejection...disease...etc etc etc.
See Biker, this is my area of expertise here, so don't tell me what I said and what I did not say. Delay no more.
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Biker,

Ayr 06/05/2008 11:55:41
Might be your speciality Mashers, but I aint impressed.
One point though. If you say the organ removals were unconfirmed, why do you then go on to say That you knew about the high rejection rates? No removals= no rejections. You catogoricaly did not tell me about the high failure rates, so bend over and assume the position.
Perhaps I would not have to repeat myself so often if you did not keep changing the goal posts and submissions.
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Polly Ann,

06/05/2008 23:40:34
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#56 Polly Ann

Horrible Cankers has been calling us trolls and she is the one that leaves a trail of red deleted posts. She is a mess!
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07/05/2008 07:32:57
BIKER: "Might be your speciality Mashers, but I aint impressed.
One point though. If you say the organ removals were unconfirmed, why do you then go on to say That you knew about the high rejection rates? No removals= no rejections. You catogoricaly did not tell me about the high failure rates, so bend over and assume the position.
Perhaps I would not have to repeat myself so often if you did not keep changing the goal posts and submissions."

I did not say the organs were not being harvested. They are indeed being harvested on a large scale, even though the practise has been outlawed by Beijing. What I said was no proof of LIVE organ harvesting. i.e. when the organs are taken, the prisoner is dead.
Maybe if you learned to read you wouldn't have to repeat yourself so often.
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Biker,

Ayr 07/05/2008 17:22:43
Mashimaro. I'm getting a bit fed up with you constant and stupid wordplay. Stop spinning and accept the points.
I first mentioned the organ removals and you denied it.
Later you mentioned the LIVE removals.
You constantly and continuously denied that this practice was taking place up until that point. You now say it is outlawed by Beijing? well woop de doo. What about the rest of China or does the Regime not worry too much about that?
It was ME who first pointed out the failure rates and possible why, not you so why attempt to spin that?
Your tactics of spin and obfuscation are tedious at best so why bother?
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Ayr 07/05/2008 17:25:01
Mashimaro Read this.
When formally approached by the Guardian, the agent denied the company was using skin harvested from executed prisoners. However, he had already admitted it was doing precisely this during a number of conversations with a researcher posing as a Hong Kong businessman. The Press Complaints Commission's code of practice permits subterfuge if there is no other means of investigating a matter of public interest.

The agent told the researcher: "A lot of the research is still carried out in the traditional manner using skin from the executed prisoner and aborted foetus." This material, he said, was being bought from "bio tech" companies based in the northern province of Heilongjiang, and was being developed elsewhere in China.

He suggested that the use of skin and other tissues harvested from executed prisoners was not uncommon. "In China it is considered very normal and I was very shocked that western countries can make such a big fuss about this," he said. Speaking from his office in northern China, he added: "The government has put some pressure on all the medical facilities to keep this type of work in low profile."

Kind give lie to the thought that Beijing is banning this practice eh?
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Mashimaro,

China 08/05/2008 09:09:38
Biker: yes dude, of course I would deny that organ harvesting was taking place and then tell you it was going on with live prisoners. WTF???
I dunno what site you're reading but it sure as heck is not this one.
Why would I deny something that I freaking write about, eejit.
What I did deny and I continue to deny because it is the bald truth, is that organ harvesting is government policy.
You just like to play games, whiteman.
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Mashimaro,

China 08/05/2008 09:33:11
#63 I slipped up there and should have explained more clearly. And yes, I'm man enough to admit it. Organ harvesting without consent of the prisoner or the prioner's family is outlawed.
With consent it is perfectly okay.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/05/2008 12:35:01
...modern day 'china' even....
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68 & 69 Horrible Cankers

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