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Published Date: 05 April 2009
BARRY Ferguson and Allan McGregor verbally abused a member of Scotland's coaching staff when told to go to their beds during last Sunday's drinking session at Loch Lomond.
When Steven Pressley came down from his room in Cameron House Hotel close to half past midday, he spotted the desperadoes of Ibrox still drinking in the bar. When told to get themselves up to their rooms, the players told Pressley where to go in no
uncertain terms.

The language towards Pressley was vulgar and unacceptable. It is believed that this was one of the main reasons why Ferguson and McGregor were dropped by manager George Burley from Wednesday night's team to face Iceland and other revellers were not. The others were deemed innocent of the charge of swearing at a coach and were therefore free of censure.

In another development, Burley has admitted he failed to appreciate the full significance of the V-signs at Hampden on Wednesday evening. On Thursday morning, at a press conference with Sunday newspaper reporters, he was shown a copy of a tabloid newspaper with the relevant image taking up half the front page.

Unprepared, Burley was initially reluctant to say anything on the matter. "I'm not getting involved in any of that," he said. "I'm just talking about the game. I'm just talking about football."

When pressed about the widely held view that the players had put two fingers up to the nation, he said: "Nobody's put two fingers to anything. At the end of the day, I could be sitting like that (putting his fingers to his face]. I'm not giving judgment on one picture, all I'm judging is the team. They (Ferguson and McGregor] could easily say whatever. You can't say definitely somebody's putting up two fingers."

Burley clarified his position 24 hours later when saying he hadn't had enough time on Thursday to appreciate the full implications of the V-sign saga. He met Gordon Smith later in the day, he said, and it was decided then that something had to be done. A day later the SFA issued a statement banning the players from Scotland duty for life.

Fraser Wishart, the head of the Scottish players' trade union, claimed yesterday that Ferguson and McGregor found out their Scotland careers were over from a radio report. "Nobody contacted the players and I think they were due that courtesy," Wishart said.



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  • Last Updated: 04 April 2009 9:38 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
1

Der Kaiser,

05/04/2009 00:23:59
I'm just sitting here, waiting on pundit telling us all about Barry's charity work............ : )

And as for them finding out their Scotland careers were over from a radio report.......did they really need someone to tell them that? Surely they figured that one out themselves.
2

Hibby Heapy,

05/04/2009 00:31:21
Well said Der Kaiser. I'm sick of old Mr Pundit defending the indefencable.

The problem with 90% of posters on here is that they fail to reliase that he's actually only a wind up merchant.
3

Der Kaiser,

05/04/2009 00:48:13
#2
Still, I like him....his insufferable badinage always makes me feel better about myself. You shouldn't look down your nose at other people cos they're dim.......but.......
4

Celtic Forever,

Manchester riot survivor 05/04/2009 01:27:09
Close down the Govan cess-pit.
5

Bareted,

sydney 05/04/2009 02:48:42
Course they were wrong, course they got what they deserved but please, enough of the hypocrisy from the nation that has always been the world swalley champions.
6

Daillyman,

05/04/2009 03:09:53
As for Fraser Wisharts comments, I think the Scottish football public deserved more than the V sign from 2 players, and supporters were contacted via the TV.

Try growing some b*lls Mr Wishart and get off the fence.

From a 45 year Gers supporter.
7

Loki,

Valhalla 05/04/2009 05:28:53
The other players who were drinking should be banned for a period too. Especially the ones who persuaded Burley to put them on the bench.
8

Rock Lobster,

05/04/2009 05:35:48

Frazer Wishart complains that no one contacted the players to tell them of their life ban.

They were in the Sari Heid drinking cider through a straw.
9

helsinki man,

away from the madding crowd.... 05/04/2009 07:16:35
what was that Def Leopard song? Hysteria.that was it.I feel I´m IN GROUNDHOG day.I give you my take on Ned-gate,(for what its worth).

Burley was put in a terrible position-managed to get a good result on the field-that wasn´t easy under the circumstances.I really don´t think much of Barry Ferguson-but does-in the cold light of day-the punishment fit the crime? I feel this has turned into a witchhunt.
Reminds me of those mad days after Diana died.

Its irrelevant if they were
Rangers players or Elgin City players.I feel a lot of people are giving them a kicking as they play in Govan.Sure,they were idiots-but lifetime ban???
did anyone get seriously hurt or killed?

i never agreed with the previous draconian bans(Copenhagen 5 etc) and I don´t think this fair either.
10

helsinki man,

Far from the madding crowd.... 05/04/2009 07:20:19
at least if they´re banning the Loch Lomond 2 there has to be something appropriate for the others involved.Some form of suspension.You can´t have one law for those 2 and another for the rest.

I honestly feel hysteria has taken over in Scotland though.
11

Gazzza,

Berkshire 05/04/2009 08:28:11
Given this latest information both deserved much stronger initial punishment than the one given however it most certainly does not excuse the Scotland officials from not carpeting the other players involved in the drinking session.

If the rumours are true then at least two of the others involved were causing embarrassment to other guests and as I understand it the original incident which caused a guest at the hotel to complain was caused by another of the Scotland party.

I hope that this is not just brushed under the carpet.

As for Burley, his days should be numbered, another weak manager, just like Walter Smith. It is time for Scotland to appoint a strict disciplinarian to the job and the same goes for Rangers.
As for comments like that from poster No 5, you really do have a cheek to talk. People in glass houses should not throw stones.

The only club in the UK with a fanbase who openly support Irish republican Terrorists, and the only club in the U.K. who are too worried about the otential boing by their moronic supporters that they cannot hold a minutes silence in respect of our war dead on armistice day.
12

Exiled Bear,

05/04/2009 08:41:04
think the international ban is justified. Ferguson is 31 years old, to many young Rangers fans and some of the young players at Ibrox he was a role model.

He is a fool, an embarrassment to his own family and kids.

McGregor just doesn't have a mind of his own and just followed suit, but that is no excuse and he has also got what he deserved.

I don't think either of their positions are tenable at Rangers, and Ferguson is not the player he was prior to his last injury. McGregor, good keeper but Alexander will do a job to the end of the season.
13

Gazzza,

Royal Berkshire 05/04/2009 08:47:37
Exiled Bear - you are 100% correct. Action should have been taken much sooner bt RFC on both these players but on Ferguson in particular. He has embarrassed himself more than once since Smith's return and failure to take strong action against Ferguson has probably cost McGregor his position at Rangers.

14

Spanish jambo,

05/04/2009 08:59:09
A few people seem to be missing the point about these two (and those who are still hiding). How dare they (the so called players) abuse their position as representatives of our country? The manager sanctioned a drink then afterwards they get the head down as they had to be up sharpish for training. Two of them give dogs abuse to a senior member (anything to do with being an ex-Celtic player?) even after ignoring their instructions.
Let's be clear about their own position: They were chosen over other full-time professional footballers to wear the national shirt and go out to represent their country as professional athletes in front of hundreds of thousands who gave them their support. What would others who were waiting to fulfil their dreams by playing for this great nation have been thinking? Are they (the drunkards) any better than the working man who'd be booted out from a company for drunken-abuse to a boss?
Interesting they've apologised to the fans but not to EP or GB - doesn't that tell a story about their self-discipline?
Harsh finding out on the radio? No way! A sweet move by the SFA - no respect deserves the same in return.
15

Bleeding Heart,

05/04/2009 10:13:08
They were lucky big Elvis didn't stiffen them.

Mind you, Elvis has more brains, more class, than to create a scene in a public space.
16

bashabigot,

edinburgh 05/04/2009 10:40:00
#14 gazza, plg was a strict disciplinarian who tried to stop your beloved clubs drinking culture and look what happened to him !!, don't try and defend rangers on this one as all of scotland can see that rangers have a drinking culture and have had one for many a year. rangers and their fans yet again are scotlands shame.
17

james 1st,

hamilton nz 05/04/2009 11:20:14
i see all the usual anti rangers bigots areon line. fergusson and mcgregor got drunk and had a problem not rangers football club/ someone at the sfa should be on the chopping block for not informing the players that they would be permanently banned, it lacks professionalism by the sfa and that should be punished in a similar way to the players lack of professionalism.
18

bashabigot,

edinburgh 05/04/2009 11:52:58
#20, are you saying that its not the two players fault for getting banned but its the sfa's fault for not telling them that they could get banned ?? its always somebody elses fault and never rangers eh ?, did elvis not instruct them to go back to their rooms only to be told where to go ?, does anyone who has a go at rangers have to be bigots ? i think your user name says a lot about you, bigoted fool.
19

lachlan,

05/04/2009 12:36:27
#7 it is possible that the actions taken against these two players may in some way help rid scotland and scottish football of the drinking culture that pervades.untill these bans were handed down certain sections of the media were taking what appeared a light hearted view of the drinking incident.
20

Helen,

05/04/2009 23:37:01
These two players earn more in a week than most people earn in a year. They are looked up to by young people. They were representing both their club and their country. Their behaviour was infantile. They deserved all they got.
21

Ham Mei Si,

Hong Kong 06/04/2009 16:25:23
Maybe your right Helen,.... They deserved all they got. But their behaviour was not only infantile, it was also a signal to every young person to watch what they say when they have been drinking! And maybe a also warning for grown ups to educate their children and warn them about using offensive language and being disrespectful. Remember what happened when the owner banned swearing in his pub? A shocking and disgraceful display of foul language by men old enough to be the fathers of these two unfortunate fellows. Maybe the adage applies here .........Punish the father not his child.....
22

allanr,

perth 10/04/2009 14:53:06
#17, Pressley started his professional career at Rangers 1990. Ban Ferguson & McGregor SINE DIE & get rid of Smith and Burley NOW before they drag us deeper into the gutter

 

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