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Published Date: 28 June 2009
MPs WERE facing intense scrutiny of their second jobs last night as the deadline loomed for them to declare details of "moonlighting".
Parliamentarians have been raking in extra cash doing everything from advising drinks firms to crofting, according to research by a Sunday newspaper.

One MP, shadow transport minister Robert Goodwill, runs an eco-cemetery at his farm and occasion
ally digs graves.

His business is expected to make a loss this year. But the revelations, which come ahead of the publication of an official Commons list of pay and hours worked, are likely to prove most embarrassing for the highest earners.

They include former housing minister Nick Raynsford, who receives £148,000 from six private sector posts – mostly connected to housing.

Former health secretary Alan Milburn earns at least £115,000 a year from five outside employers, including Lloyds Pharmacy and PepsiCo.

Paul Keetch, the Liberal Democrat MP for Hereford, is paid £48,000 a year through a company he owns for about 36 days work a year advising an insurance broker and a tent supplier.

Another Lib Dem, John Thurso (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) earns £7,500 a year for ten hours helping to organise the International Wine and Spirit Competition.

John Bercow, the new Speaker of the House of Commons, was paid £40,000 by a healthcare firm that runs special needs schools after he wrote a government report on children with communication difficulties.

Under current rules, MPs must name all their outside employers and directorships in the Register of Members' Interests. However, they do not have to say how long they spend on the work, and only need to give an indication of much they are paid if the job relates to their work as an MP.

Reforms coming into force from Wednesday mean they will be obliged to list hours and details of salary.

More than half of the MPs with outside interests are Conservatives, but many have already announced they are giving them up ahead of the changes. Shadow foreign secretary William Hague, who last year earned around £230,000 from after-dinner speeches, advice to private companies and writing books, is to step down from several posts with engineering and financial companies by the autumn.

Other senior Tories who are quitting their outside positions include policy chief Oliver Letwin, who earns a £60,000 salary for eight hours a week at investment bank NM Rothschild, and shadow skills secretary David Willetts, who is paid £80,000 a year to advise a pensions company.

Shadow Commons leader Alan Duncan has already given up directorships of two oil companies and a US-based engineering company, from which he earned more than £80,000 a year.

Former Labour minister Ian McCartney has dropped a £115,000-a-year post advising a US nuclear power company. He apparently gave the money to charity.

Many at Westminster argue that allowing MPs to hold down outside jobs keeps them in touch with the outside world., and gives them a fall-back career option if they lose their seats.

However, in the wake of the damaging expenses row, there are likely to be accusations that some MPs who work long hours for private companies are effectively "part-timers".







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1

DialMforMurdoX,

28/06/2009 00:28:42
Hmmm no mention of Adam Ingram MP, member of East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow Labour Party Who's expenses for 2007-8 were a modest £121,499

However his remunerated directorships for the following companies helped him accrue a tidy sum and a mansion in the Perthshire countryside, where he intends to retire to after the next election.

Non-executive Chairman of SignPoint Secure Ltd.; emergency communications. (£45,001-£50,000)

Adam Ingram Advisory Limited, set up May 2008, to undertake consultancy work, to which is payable income from the following:

Non-executive Chairman of Argus Scotland Ltd; design and construction services in the urban environment. (£20,001-£25,000)

Director, International School for Security and Explosives Education (ISSEE) (non-executive). (£10,001-£15,000)

Consultant to Argus Libya UK LLP; design and construction services in the urban environment. (£20,001-£25,000)

Consultant to Electronic Data Systems Ltd (EDS); provision of IT services to public and private sector clients in the UK. (£50,001-£55,000)

Such a busy boy those constituents who voted for him and Labour must be pleased at how much work he does on their behalf...
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 28/06/2009 01:21:15

Robert Goodwill, "digs graves", I really have heard it all now!, unbelievable but seemingly sadly true!



3

Ronald Penman,

Glasgow 28/06/2009 01:43:12
Be interesting also to see a listing of all those
who have left the Westminster sleaze factory and go on to lucrative jobs in the sectors in which they had an interest in - such as awarding contracts - whilst in office.
Thinking of scum such as Brian Wilson - now pimping for the nuclear industry, and His Highness m'Lord
Geordie Robertson now "working" for military corps.
4

Electric Hermit,

28/06/2009 01:46:15
Another non-story from the Sowhatsman. Lots of people have more than one job. What makes MPs different? So long as the additional employment does not interfere with there ability to fulfil their duties as an MP, or conflict with their responsibilities, why should I care what else they do with their time?

Between the expenses "scandal" and now this, there seems to be a campaign gathering pace which aims to take us back to a time when only the independently wealthy could afford to be MPs.

5

Edward,

28/06/2009 02:39:05
It will be interesting to see the number of Scottish Labour MP's who have 2nd and 3rd jobs. After all how else do they spend their time in Westminster
6

Edward,

28/06/2009 02:42:36
REID, Rt. Hon. Dr. John (Airdrie and Shotts)
Remunerated directorships
Celtic PLC (non-executive director from 1 October 2007; non-executive chairman from 19 November 2007)
John Reid Advisory Ltd; company receiving income from outside employment
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28/06/2009 03:05:11
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Waus,

Rockingham 28/06/2009 05:25:12
#5 Strange logic mentally challenged ""Hermit"" I thought your British politicians were overly well paid like ours yours just appear more corrupt so why should they have 2nd jobs&deprive the unemployed ones from having one???????
10

Scottish and Proud,

Glasgow 28/06/2009 06:06:45
One of the many excuses used in the expenses scandal has been how hard working and underpaid our wonderful Westminster MPs are in comparison to "commercial equivalent jobs"

Seems to me ,particualrly backbenchers and oppositition MPs are virtually part time.
Yet they have all this time on their hands to moonlight and earn hundreds of thousands of £ over and above their £65k pa salary and £120k+ expenses.
Something just does not add up here.
Our Scottish MPs are even worse now that we have Holyrood.
Part of the upcoming reforms of Westminster should be a dramatic cut in the number of MPs.

In America for a population of 400mil. approx they have 500+ legislators in Senate and Congress.
In Westminster alone we have 1600 MPs and Lords then the devolved institutions behind that,the councils ,the quangos.

We are the most "over governed" country on the planet.
We need savings , I know where I would find them.
11

Pocket Dictionary,

28/06/2009 07:17:51

According to the Sunday Telegraph, George Galloway, Respect, earns £249,600 from second incomes.
12

letmein,

hinterland 28/06/2009 07:32:52
I wouldnt mind them having two jobs, just so long as they do their main one, instead of dipping their noses in the trough.
13

Media at One,

28/06/2009 08:26:27
Nothing wrong with them having extra jobs, nothing at all. At the end of the day making money is the single biggest and most important thing in the world. Money is good, money is amazing, it is our friend and the more the better, so I am behind them 100%.
HOWEVER, as Letmein said. This can only be accepted as long as they are doing their government job to the best of their ability. So far, this story is not about their commitment to their first job, it is about the money they earn in the second. And now they they must list their hours that will also help. So it is all good!
14

Johnnyf,

Scotland on Sunday 28/06/2009 08:51:22
Electric Hermit especially.
Second and third jobs DO interfere. Just look at the Commons most days of the week, there's no one there. I think we should have a "clocking in" system at the Commons and a more rigorous method of them having explain why they aren't in the house doing the job they were elected to do. I have to do that and am certainly more qualified educationally than most of these W*****s.
The Tories again will top this list for second jobs as in the expenses row, why is the country so intent on voting them in. These are dangerous, socially elite people who do not care one little thing about the people in this country. These are the good old fashioned Tories which we have not seen since the 19th century. Remember Cameron is a PR millionaire by trade.
15

Martin Osment,

Shoreham-By-Sea 28/06/2009 08:55:58
#12 - not 1600 MPs but 659 since 1997 - see http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/G03.pdf

Probably far too many anyway. Why have multiple tiers - (Local, County, Nation, MEPS)- local councillors do a pretty good job and surely provide better value, so why not have them filter up, rather than duplicate? Also the e-petitions site gives a route to express views without going via MPs, so the need for them to intervene personally for constituents in almost everything is fast diminishing. What's the right number? 50 qualified professionals, no amateurs? The hereditary (unpaid) peers at least had a variety of specialist technical knowledge.
Why can't MPs train for the job like everyone else, and have professional standards, not train on the job, in bad habits. We don't let unqualified surgeons operate on us, so why let unqualified people govern us?

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

(Attributed to Edmund Burke, but also to a film of War & Peace by Leo Tolstoy).
16

donald,

glasgow 28/06/2009 08:57:00
Jimmy Hood. £8,000 per annum from Thames Sewage Board for dumping London effluence in his Lanarkshire Constituency.

Lord Foulks £10,000 per annum by Johnny Walkers. Johnny Walker adopted the toff figure at the beginning of the 20th Century to curry favour in London, when Scotch whisky was considered to be downmarket and Dutch Gin was favoured since Dutch Wullie arrived on the Throne.

It is not true that Bishpbriggs Mick was seen busking in Springburn wastelands.
17

donald,

glasgow 28/06/2009 08:58:22
It is not true that Jim Devine was seen stacking shelves in Ikea.
18

Kenny A,

28/06/2009 09:07:27
Media 1

Disagree with maney being the most important thing in the world.

It is family.
19

Media at One,

28/06/2009 09:42:39
Kenny A

Cmon - Family is inherently part and parcel of life. Money is something completely different and IT IS the most important aspect of life. Money is king! Money is good!
20

Observer,,

Glasgow 28/06/2009 10:05:10
Money is the root of all evil.
21

Publius,

Girvan 28/06/2009 10:12:41
What about all the ministers who are moonlighting too? Gordon Brown is MR for Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath and Prime Minister. He can't posibly do both jobs properly. And Alex Salmond has three jobs: first minister, MSP and MP. Nobody can do three full time jobs properly. He must be moonlighting on two of them. And what about Ed Miliband - Minister for Climate Change (saving the world from global warming) and MP for Doncaster North. He really must be neglecting the good folk of Doncaster: no wonder they voted English Democrat for mayor this year.

Perhaps being an MP isn't really a full time job. If so shouldn't they be paid fees rather than a salary? And only allowed to claim 20 per cent or 40 per cent of expenses against the taxes on their fees? Just a thought.
22

Desmo the Dug,

Adelaide 28/06/2009 10:43:01
#11, c'mon Waus, how many members of the unemployed/asylum seekers could possibly be competent and experienced enough to trouser seven and a half thousand for ten hours work organizing a booze fest. Do you really think they would have any idea that their time could be charged at seven fifty an hour!!! - bet most of the idiots would do it for minimum wage and a quick swig from the bottle.

23

scully,

Colchester 28/06/2009 10:46:20
Why have you taken my posting off again.
24

English Voice,

28/06/2009 11:07:55
Labour step up pressure on "two jobs" Salmond?

Hypocrisy, thy have a name....
25

Willie Mor,

28/06/2009 11:13:03
Come the next election the funeral business will be booming with the Labour dead.

I don't think however that an eco-cemetry would be able to inter the toxic remains of some of the less than honourable Labour MPs who will be heading to the political graveyard.
26

Willie Mor,

28/06/2009 11:15:24
Oh, and if you think recycling is a good thing - well just consider the case of Lord Mandelson.

He should have been buried in a lead lined casket under a metre of concrete.
27

jdships,

Edinburgh 28/06/2009 11:20:32
16 Johnnyf,

Notice you don't mention "The Fat Controller" has two jobs plus an "expense a/c"
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story
28

Blindscout,

Fife 28/06/2009 12:00:16
#20 & 23

While I agree money is necessary to live in this world, it only rates 6th in a list of what is important in a job, with family and job satisfaction being higher.

But stop misquoting. The correct quote is "For we brought nothing into this world and it is certain we carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

And even though not of religious faith, the same will apply to any political faith you may have.
29

ddmc,

28/06/2009 12:02:38
Obviously politician's are so honest & have the highest integrity that there are never any conflicts of interest, this should be the reason why no additional jobs are allowed.

I think the point that all politicians are missing is that if they dont like the terms & conditions of employment then they should find another job. I personally think that most politicians are control freaks which is why they enter politics to control aspects of peoples lives, nu-liabour are a classic example of trying to micro manage our way of life.
30

Johnnyf,

Scotland 28/06/2009 12:06:17
#30 Didn't think he was worthy of a mention. But you're right and wrong. He has three jobs, possibly four. UK MP,Scottish MP, First Minister. Is he still a Horse Racing tipster?
#21 Tam O' Shanter, pathetic, just pathetic. Do a head count in the Telegraph there are more Tories involved in the expenses scandal than anyone. The Lib Dems are hardly squeaky clean. I can't believe the audacity of Clegg constantly bleating about MP's expenses when he regularly claims his £23,000 per year limit.
My feeling is that everyone of them, who has claimed unjust expenses, whether it be within their rules or not should be sacked. This includes Brown, Darling, Mandelson, Hague,Osborne, Salmond etc. no political bias here. Oh, and whoever sanctioned the payments should also be looking at the dole queue.
31

Media at One,

28/06/2009 12:12:20
Observer - How can you say that money is the root of all evil?
As far as I can tell, religion is the root of all evil.

Money is the most glorious thing known to man, it is good, it is available, it is there for all of us to earn, it is freedom, it is food, its a home, its two homes, three or even four, its a car, two cars and more, its a brilliant and amazing thing. You must love money with all your heart!
32

mr broon,

Edinburgh 28/06/2009 12:19:16
ALL these Members of the Pig Parliament, who have been outed as corrupt and criminal, have dug their own graves.

One thing for certain, the myth of Westminster has forever been destroyed, and will be buried along with their reputations.
33

fat lord prodder,

somewhere in alba 28/06/2009 13:27:56
heard on forth 2 news today that the PM wants more tennis schools etc so that more brits get further in wimbledon comp
frankie boy macaveety called on the SNP to provide them
i remember growing up in glen allan in the inch,and the park had a lovely bowling greens,and tennis courts,complete with changing rooms,but sadly now gone
was it burned to the ground?,or did labour council get rid of it?
how many tennis courts and bowling greens disapeared to be replaced with houses,in labour controlled councils?
a sly shot b frankie boy at an attempt to boost ones vote was it
34

scully,

Colchester 28/06/2009 14:50:11
31 you must be fair. The Church,s, are always asking for you to put paper money only in the plater. or they give you and envelope with a number so they know how much you gave. also the Mormons and other religious sects demand 10% for you monthly income . and they are not the only ones.
35

scully,

Colchester 28/06/2009 14:54:02
As Jesus allegedly said. Man can not live by bread alone.Its man that is evil .. Not money. It all depends on what you use it for.Money does make the world go round
36

Incandescent,

28/06/2009 15:17:09
#5 Electric Hermit

Utter poppycock! Only a politician, which I presume you are, could think this is ok.
37

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

28/06/2009 16:36:54
34...It is obiously your god and religion as you seem to worship, praise and preach its glory so much...
38

Blindscout,

Fife 28/06/2009 16:38:41
#37
Some churches do insist on giving a tenth of your income, but not necessarily in money. In days of old the workers on the farms gave a tenth of the crop to the landlord. But the church today usually ask for 'a fitting proportion of time, talents and money'. Most churches have 'free will offerings' where you can give anomalously, some use envelopes or bank transfer where it can be traced to an individual for the purpose of claiming tax back form HMRC as gift aid.

#38
Money also stops the world as in the bank collapse, needing governments to intervene. The cause of the collapse. Greed. The context of '... not living by bread alone ...', is in the temptations of Jesus, and continues '... but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." It is not man that is evil but the actions of man. Love the sinner, hate the crime.
39

Joburg Pete,

28/06/2009 18:02:42
I have been reading the posts. Money is not evil, not in my opinion. Religion is not evil either, it is important to people. I am not a religious person, my brain is wired to embrace reason but we must have a world that is tolerant to all people.
40

Rob Royston,

Bishopbriggs 28/06/2009 18:32:50
There are probably a few of them doing extra jobs, but a lot of it is extra earnings that is simply buying access to their position in parliament.

It should be simple enough to differentiate between who is working and who is simply being bought. Any rigorous watchdog could soon sort them out, but as they say, turkeys and Christmas.
41

nostress,

grangemouth 28/06/2009 21:07:06
No MP's or MSP's should take money from any outside interest groups or companies as it leaves them open to corruption. Their sole intersts should be to represent their constituents. If this isn't sufficient for them, then get out of politics. If they're that invaluable to these outside intersts I'm sure they'll all be on the boards through their own abilities rather than their privileged positions very soon after quitting politics.

As for the slurs on Alex Salmond? Pathetic as usual from the unionists. His work is on behalf of his country and his constituents first and foremost. I wonder how many of the greedy swine in the Anti-Scotland Parties can say the same.

Time for a clean start Scotland. Time to rid ourselves of all the placemen and self-seeking scumbags.
42

fat lord prodder,

somewhere in alba 28/06/2009 21:22:21
George Foulkes has been accused by the Scottish National Party of wasting public and government time money by asking a large number of parliamentary questions, including how much money the Scottish Government has spent on spacehoppers for St Andrew's Day celebrations, and how many times Scottish ministers have met with Scottish musician Sandi Thom. His questions reportedly cost the Government nearly £100,000 to answer.[9].

Foulkes became embroiled in accusations of racism after referring to the Scottish National Party (SNP) of acting in a "xenophobic way"[10]. The former Scottish Labour Party leader Henry McLeish called on Foulkes to apologise for the SNP 'racism' claim[11].

During the 2009 expenses controversy, Foulkes attacked media presenters, saying they were all paid "to come on TV and sneer at democracy and undermine democracy. The vast majority of MPs are being undermined by you"[12] in an exchange with BBC presenter Carrie Gracie.

In 2008, Foulkes had been criticised for his expenses claims, which included around £45,000 over a period of two years for overnight subsistence to stay in a flat he had inherited. Between April 2007 and March 2008, Foulkes claimed £54,527 in expenses from the House of Lords
trouser pockets deeper than the firth of forth,what is it with posh educated gits and labour,how does he really know what poverty feels like,you sir are a sham
43

Electric Hermit,

28/06/2009 22:56:57
11
Waus

Lots of people have second jobs. Why should MPs be any different?

44

Electric Hermit,

28/06/2009 22:59:22
16
Johnnyf

"Second and third jobs DO interfere. Just look at the Commons most days of the week, there's no one there."

How do you know? For the most part, you only ever see the chamber. Most of the real work gets done in offices and committee rooms.

45

Electric Hermit,

28/06/2009 23:03:55
23
Observer

"Money is the root of all evil."

Actually, the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. See #15.

46

Electric Hermit,

28/06/2009 23:08:34
39
Incandescent

"Utter poppycock! Only a politician, which I presume you are, could think this is ok."

The baseless assumption indicates that you are an idiot. Which would explain why you are completely unable to come up with anything resembling a cogent argument.

47

Ronald Penman,

Glagow 28/06/2009 23:30:21
Er....Fat M'Lard Plodder. Interesting that you focus on HIS ROYAL HIGHNESSES "expenses" excesses,and yet you leave out the great mans claim to fame; the unprovoked, drunken assault upon an old Lady,and a cop in uniform, for which he was subsequently convicted.

Quite why this scumbag is in any sort of public office
simply escapes me.
48

fat lord prodder,

somewhere in alba 29/06/2009 00:54:11
#50 ach ye beat me to it ,that was the next one,he or someone on this rag bans me every time i have a go at him
did you read about him nesting in patrons coats because he was as drunk as his title lol
Consider Alex Massie’s latest snippet in The Spectator and see if it reminds you of a huge fat fcuker, who lies constantly, is a total pain in the ar-se and who costs the British taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds each year:

*Made, if mermory serves, in Eamonn Doran’s nightclub in Dublin, circa 1996. This was an evening that culminated with the discovery of George Foulkes slumped unconscious in the cloakroom. In fact, the noble lord (as he is now) had made a kind of nest for himself, using punters’ jackets to cushion his comfortably-sized frame and, once awoken, needed a pair of helpers to guide him back to his hotel. Mr Foulkes had been addressing the Dubin University Soccer Appreciation Society and refreshments had been served. Before retiring to the cloakroom he had been in fine voice, belting out the Hearts song while lurching across the dance floor to the bemusement and, it must be said, amusement of all present. Unlike some of the society’s guests, however, Mr Foulkes did not sleep with any of the members.

There is no truth in the rumour that he had a homosexual relationship with the soon to be former Speaker of the House and that was why he was popping up and down on every TV channel in the country the other week.
enjoy
49

Ronald Penman,

Glasgow 29/06/2009 11:31:14
Fat Lard Prodder; Sir, I salute your courage, your determination, your indefatigability !

And boy wot a shocker - even I am taken aback.
Geepers, creepers. Didn't know that Fatty Foulkes was
of the shirt-lifting persuation. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm
What was that old line about lurve being blind ?hahhahahahahahhahahahhahaha

And thank you for the story of his nesting abilitys.
Is there no ending to the great mans "talents"?
You do have to conclude that Fatty is not adverse to a
wee swally - or six !

 

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