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Published Date:
06 May 2007
THE Royal family threatened to quit Windsor Castle, dismiss its staff and turn up to the state opening of Parliament in a taxi to embarrass the government after running into severe financial difficulties in the depression-hit 1920s.
Restricted files seen by Scotland on Sunday show that King George V went cap in hand to the Prime Minister demanding more than £100,000, the equivalent of more than £3m today, in a bid to alleviate his desperate economic circumstances.

In a move
that reveals that conflict between the monarchy and the government over the Civil List is nothing new, King George said that unless he received an immediate and sizeable rise in public payments to the Crown, pageantry would be "abolished forever" in Britain and he would be reduced to the status of a French president.

Unlike the present Royal Family, however, which has had to endure cuts in the Civil List, the King persuaded politicians to agree to his demands.

The extraordinary constitutional showdown has been revealed for the first time in the private papers of the Scots-born prime minister Arthur Balfour, who acted as an intermediary between the King and David Lloyd George's government.

The revelations were described as a "bombshell" by a leading Royal expert, who described the monarch's demands as little more than an attempt to "blackmail the country's elected representatives".

Arthur James Balfour, born in Whittingehame, East Lothian, in 1848, was PM between 1902 and 1905, before becoming Foreign Secretary, the role in which he later authored the hugely influential Balfour Declaration of 1917, recommending the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Another Cabinet role as chair of the Privy Council, which saw him advise the sovereign on policy issues, made him the ideal Downing Street-Buckingham Palace go-between.

On June 28, 1921, the Privy Purse Office at Buckingham Palace wrote to Balfour advising him of the monarch's financial woes.

Fritz Ponsonby, a Royal private secretary, enclosed a copy of a letter that the King approved to be sent to Sir Robert Stevenson Horne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

The correspondence states:

"The King thought that before taking any steps to reduce expenditure it would be well to make sure the Prime Minister understood all that this would entail.

"These proposals would not be achieved by mere desultory economies, but would involve a recasting of the whole framework of the Royal Household."

The letter claims that unless extra public money was directed immediately towards the Royal family, it would result in "the sale of all horses and carriages and the substitution of motor cars, the dismissal of 80 men in the stables and an equivalent number of indoor servants and the shutting up of Windsor Castle."

It warns the Chancellor to expect a public backlash if the Royal demands are not met.

"Would not the British public resent the abolition of so popular and important a feature as court pageants?

"There would be no inherent difficulty in the King going to open Parliament in a taxi-cab, but whether it would be consonant with the dignity of the British Empire is quite another matter.

"His Majesty feels sure that the Prime Minister would recognise the importance of making the present situation perfectly clear to the people of the country so they should be aware of the adoption of a course to which it may turn out they are bitterly opposed."

Ponsonby then "suggests" on behalf of the King that the government approve the granting of an additional sum of £110,000, plus a lump sum of £5,000, adding: "It must be remembered that in 1916 the King made a gift of £100,000 to the Exchequer."

Later letters between Balfour and the Palace show other solutions were being aired other than granting the money from the Exchequer, but the King strongly rejected a suggestion that he put Royal property up for sale to address his financial shortcomings.

Instead, Ponsonby suggested selling public-administered land to address the monarch's "financial difficulties".

Eventually, Balfour's lobbying and the Palace's pugnacious stance held sway and the government quietly and privately agreed to the King's demands.

Charles Mosley, royal expert and editor of Burke's Peerage & Baronetage,

said: "This is nothing short of an absolute bombshell. It is amazing to learn that the King was able to effectively blackmail the government in this way.

"The very idea of the King being forced to vacate Windsor Castle and turning up to Parliament in a taxi is extraordinary."

Mosley added: "King George V could be blunt in a naval fashion, but to put his case to the government in such stark, dramatic terms was most unstatesmanlike, to put it mildly."

Graham Smith, of Republic, which campaigns for an elected head of state, said: "The Civil List was a secretive and grubby stitch-up in 1921 and unfortunately that remains the case today."

According to Buckingham Palace, current Civil List expenditure exceeds £11m, so an equivalent increase of £3m today would represent a rise of almost a quarter.

Balfour's private collection of documents is guarded by the Brander family, who are still based in Whittinghame.

Cona
n Doyle's spiritual plea to the PM
TH
E creator of Sherlock Holmes badgered a former prime minister to publicly endorse his eccentric views on life after death, the Balfour documents show.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle found solace in spiritualism after the deaths of his son Kingsley, his brother, his two brothers-in-law and his two nephews in the First World War.

On Halloween 1919, the Edinburgh-born author wrote to Arthur Balfour stating: "You may have seen in the papers that I and others have been asserting the fact of personal survival and of the possibility of spiritual communication after death.

"I need not say that a word from you which I could use would be a great help to us in our struggle."

In response, Balfour indicated that although he shared Conan Doyle's views on spiritualism he was "reluctant" to become embroiled in a public controversy on an issue related to the supernatural.

Vict
oria's censor
Qu
een Victoria discussed the "horrid" Irish and Russians in private correspondence with one of her prime ministers, according to the Balfour Papers.

Britain's longest reigning monarch also told Benjamin Disraeli she wished she was a man so she could go and fight enemies of her empire.

In November 1919, a Buckingham Palace aide wrote to Balfour, then in the Cabinet as Lord President of the Council, asking for advice about the proposed publication of letters between the Queen and Disraeli.

The following month Balfour wrote back suggesting that a number of the Queen's remarks be removed from the letters, dating between 1875 and 1878, to protect her reputation.

Balfour wrote: "There is a phrase used by the Queen in which she talks about giving the 'horrid Russians such a beating'.

"I rather like the Queen's passionate wish 'to be a man and go out and fight her country's enemies'.

"All the same, these are expressions which rather degrade sentiments which are in themselves wholly admirable."

Balfour also called for the passage where the Queen referred to "these horrid Irish" to be removed before publication.

He wrote: "No doubt the Irish party of obstruction in the House of Commons was horrible, but I cannot help feeling that this colloquial commentary might, with advantage, be omitted.

"It is somewhat schoolgirlish.

"If I have seemed to cavil at words, it is not because they are too vehement, but because I think they will be misunderstood and will injure rather than improve the general effort of this remarkable piece of political portraiture."

Balfour added: "Without being in the least clever, Queen Victoria was certainly a most remarkable personality.

"Unfortunately she wrote like a schoolgirl, incapable of seeing the reality behind the form."



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  • Last Updated: 05 May 2007 7:52 PM
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  • Location: Scotland
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1

www.scottwebb.co.uk..,

06/05/2007 02:30:40

Fascinating :)

2

Ichabod,

06/05/2007 06:22:55

Incredible. Not that George made demands, but that a nation broken financially after the war, gave in!

3

Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 06/05/2007 07:17:36

Never mind George V's famous quote: bugger Bogner! George V told Balfour: Bugger Britain! Lachie Todd

4

Guga,

Rockall 06/05/2007 09:00:25

Yet further proof, if any was needed, that Scotland should be a republic.

10:00

5

alex paterson,

embra 06/05/2007 10:45:11

George V certainly knew what he wanted,He was a man of strong words,But why not.

6

Androsthenes,

Edinburgh 06/05/2007 11:17:01

Was that the first example of free collective bargaining with the Government since the Peasant's Revolt???

7

Pilrig,

Livingston 06/05/2007 11:18:39

horrid Irish ? great coming from that soor-faced auld bitch !

8

Glebealyth,

Perthshire 06/05/2007 12:03:03

As usual, the republicans come out of the woodwork and peddle their usual lies in response to this article.
For the record, the Civil List was created when the Crown ceded the crown Estates and the income therefrom to the Government. A very little research will reveal the fact that the income to the Government Exchequer from the crown Estates has ALWAYS exceeded the cost to the Government Exchequer of the Civil List.
Despite the regular headlines teling us of the value for money of the Monarchy at £1-something per head per annum, the reality is that the Monarchy actually is a net contributor to the national purse, a fact which is always overlooked by the opportunistic and self-serving republicans.

9

Bob Beal,

Edmonton, Canada 06/05/2007 12:28:15

The story is somewhat misleading. The Great Depression was in the 1930s, not the 1920s. World economies were rather vibrant during the 1920s. But governments were having difficulties recovering from the Great War, and some economies, especially Britain's, were having trouble catching up. It would be interesting to see this story placed more firmly in the context of government expenditures and the British economy of the day.

10

Ichabod,

06/05/2007 12:28:42

Glebealyth

I am not sure what you are getting at here.
1921 saw the nation almost bankrupt. Men returning from war found they had no jobs, the 'Houses fit for heroes' were not, and did not appear. Riots in Luton and Manchester at that time were caused by severe suffering from the populace.

I ask you, was it right for the then King to refuse to sell his property while his people suffered? How self absorbed could any individual be to ignore the suffering around him when in a position to do something about it?

Republican or monarchist, I think common humanity is more important. This King did not show that in this instance. I wonder how many memorials to men he attended that year? Did the plight of the widows and families not move him?

11

Choosername,

06/05/2007 13:03:01

Glenbealyth - think how much MORE the income from the crown estates would exceed the costs if we didn't have people who needed valets to paste their toothbrushes!

12

Abel Magwitch,

06/05/2007 13:05:59

Nothing about the Royal Family surprises me. The economic arguments about their support are still going on, but one element is always left out of the calculation. That is the colossal economic benefit to the cultural industries and tourism. Britain would be a dull little country without the entertainment and interest provided by the Royals.

13

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 06/05/2007 13:24:50

#10 Choosername,

And fine Socialists lead such frugal lifestyles do they? The Blairs for example, how many homes is it they have now? And of course the Blair brood never seem to benefit from daddy's contacts, do they? And Prescott? 3 or 4 homes now? I forget. Michael Meacher, the representative of Real Labour? Was it 6 or 7 flats he has? Oh, and Mandelson, couldn't bear to be living in grotty old Notting Hill in just the one without a wee mortgage fraud to himself. I wonder if that great Man of the People, Tommy Sheridan, would have turned down the £46,000 redundancy that his former pals in the SSP are now due. Don't kid yourself. Give me Her Maj any time.

14

Tricia,

06/05/2007 17:33:49

Imagine the disgrace of showing up at Parliament in a cab! The commoners were probably walking on foot with paper in the holes of their shoes. Do you think his demands were the 1920's version of Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake!" Oh wait, could the people even afford that? As for Victoria, I'm sure the horrid Irish had a lot worse opinion of her. Did her affair with Mr. Brown from Scotland prevent her from cross dressing so she could go out and fight her country's enemies?

15

Mac Coinneach,

Canada 06/05/2007 18:21:29

The government should have sent George off to sponge from his German relatives. I would imagine that Gothas, who built German bombers during the First World War, were fairly well off.

16

E. Smith,

Texas 06/05/2007 20:21:37

I don't suppose Her current Royal Majesty would consider a "bicycle monarchy" particularly if it kept the "United" in the "Kingdoms"?

Of course, even if a country doesn't have a monarchy, given a few years, an "imperial" executive usually reasserts itself.

17

big_meat,

The Ballroom 06/05/2007 22:03:38

If the Union is split, I guess you will have to get used to the fact that you will pay for your own what... President?.. First Minister?..Become a country led by the head of your own armed forces?
And The Queen, or whoever follows her, will still be the largest private landowner in your own new country. That will be a strange paradox, especially considering that diplomatically you will be responsible for paying for the security of a visiting Head of State every time She or whoever comes up for the odd weekend, or month....
That will be an interesting readin the papers!

18

Virginian,

Virginia, USA 07/05/2007 23:32:52

#7. Glebealyth, Perthshire.
Quote: "...the Monarchy actually is a net contributor to the national purse, a fact which is always overlooked by the opportunistic and self-serving republicans."

Answer: Thank you for an excellent explanation of the true financial situation regarding the Monarchy.

It is a given that envy is at the bottom of all the spiteful comments about the Queen and the Civil List.

The Sour Grapes Clan will always whine that the Royals are spending THEIR hard-earned money, when, generally speaking, most of them don't have enough sense to keep what money they do have.

These people are not really "republicans" but are "socialists" who want to lay claim to the rightful property of others. What socialist ever truly wanted to be equal to anyone else?

It would be interesting to see if Tricia, Guga, and the usual suspects were suddenly the inheritors of the wealth of the Queen. Let's see how fast they would give it up for the good of the Republic of Scotland.


 

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