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Uncertain Smith steels his men for the big push

A murderous schedule threatens to undermine Rangers' drive for history.

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Published Date: 06 April 2008
RANGERS HAVE had it easy. Until now, all that's been required of them has been to haul their athletic frames through a mere 52 games in nine months, a period that has delivered an inconceivable title surge, underscored by a longest winning league run in 25 years, and a wholly unexpected UEFA Cup tilt, founded on the most intense spell of European football in their history.
A dawdle. At least compared to what lies ahead. Just as the joints of the Ibrox squad patently begin to creak, so the pressures and the fixtures really crank up. Frankly, if the first 37 weeks of their season were It's A Knockout, the next seven weeks have all the makings of Japanese gameshow Endurance. Notwithstanding a run of results that saw Walter Smith named Clydesdale Bank SPL manager of the month for March, he conceded: "The hardest work is to come; it doesn't matter what anyone says."

Serious expectations have the capacity to drain as debilitatingly as aching limbs and a brutal run of matches. For followers of Rangers, a failure to add the league championship and Scottish Cup to their CIS Cup triumph would represent negligence; anything less than a UEFA Cup final appearance a glorious opportunity missed. Never mind that to achieve these aims they will somehow require to negotiate 15 games in 49 days that could so easily expose the so far commendably-disguised limitations of their aesthetically-challenged style.

"If you have been through circumstances like this before and gone on to win a championship, then you would have confidence in your team doing it," Smith said. "But we don't know what reaction we will get from this group of players. We're going to have nine league games in six weeks, which is unusual. It has happened before, but it hasn't happened very often. You've got that on top of European games and at least one Scottish Cup tie and we have to see how our group can handle this situation.

"There is a reasonable amount of evidence to suggest there is a resilience and a desire to win. But their reaction to the final push is a big thing. A tension develops towards the end when you have to win."

Of the nine Premier League games that remain for Smith's men, the trip to Tannadice today is one of seven away from home. It is also the first of four consecutive away games – and potentially one of eight outside of Ibrox in four weeks – that Rangers must drag themselves through merely to retain aspirations of a quadruple. Mind you, hoop- wearing sides could make their task a lot easier.

Celtic's defeat yesterday helped enormously, and if Gordon Strachan's men cannot rid themselves of their flakiness, Rangers may not need be overly concerned about the outcome of their trip to the east end of Glasgow a week on Wednesday. And if Sporting betray the flaws that have scarred their league season, the scoreless draw Rangers' attritional approach squeezed out in the first leg of their UEFA Cup quarter-final three days ago could provide wriggle room for them to prevail in Lisbon this Thursday.

"We are still in the tie when you consider we have managed to get goals in away European games this season," Smith said. "We know we can do that but also know there will be spells in the game we have to play better than we did at Ibrox. If you look at all the games in the UEFA Cup and Champions League last week, they tended to be tight. As happens at the latter stages. Dick Advocaat's team (Zenit St Petersburg] had an outstanding 4-1 win in Leverkusen, but that is the only one of the eight ties beyond a team. All the rest are up for grabs. Arguably, we got the best result of any home team. We didn't do as well as we have, but the result was still a good one."

For more than a month now, Rangers' results have far surpassed their performances. That may be in part because, as well as battling opponents, the Ibrox men are now engaged in a mighty fight with fatigue. David Weir looked out on his feet the other night as the home side could not add to their one win in eight previous continental confrontations. Smith accepts tiredness may have contributed to the booking that will see the 37-year-old suspended for the second leg, a ban that will force the break-up of the partnership with Carlos Cuellar that has been the key component in Rangers' robustness.

"I felt there were maybe signs of tiredness from us in the last ten minutes against Sporting," the Ibrox manager said. "A lot of that is mental, not just a physical thing. There was a wee bit of slackness and lack of reaction towards the end. The couple of chances they had later on were basically self-inflicted."

Christian Dailly, who will be drafted in for Weir in the Portuguese capital, believes there is a danger of over-stating the effects of a relentless programme. "I don't think we were at our best against Sporting but we're in a situation where every time the team isn't quite at its best we are going to be accused of being tired," he said. "It is difficult to say if that is the reason. You can just play like that even when you are buzzing. It was a tough game and I wouldn't read too much into the performance. Everyone felt fine before it. You are never going to steamroller games like that."

Yet, running out of steam remains one of the biggest threats to Rangers' hopes of a season to rank among their very finest. It is a risk Smith is prepared to take. Despite having such as Steven Whittaker, Steven Naismith, Chris Burke, Kris Boyd and Dailly fresh and on the fringes, Smith talks of making only "one or two changes" for this afternoon's Tayside encounter. The team's core quartet of Barry Ferguson, Carlos Cuellar, Allan McGregor and Weir will remain so as long as their bodies and bans allow, even if Ferguson's levels appear to have dropped as he manages an ankle problem.

"We'll maybe get an opportunity to rest him in the next few weeks but he's not the kind of player who looks for that respite," Smith said. "It is something you've got to take into account but he is always liable to give you something different. You're always looking at the players who have played most of the games but you are loathe to leave them out."

Rangers will stand or fall with their stand-outs giving their all.




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  • Last Updated: 05 April 2008 10:52 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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1

Teary Ennui,

06/04/2008 00:08:33
Whatever some fans of other clubs may say about him, leaving Ferguson out of the team previously has led to bad results. Weir will get a rest on Thursday at least. Despite Celtic's defeat there's still a lot of work to be done.
2

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 06/04/2008 00:23:28
i just hope the uefa cup isnae a poisoned chalice
the further we go the more pressure we put on ourselves
hope to god that the helicopter doesnae need to change direction again
septic dropping points is brilliant and if we win one at the san giro then it's goodnight wgs
wonder if the great unwashed will be secretly backin the bears !!
3

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:00:59
The push got a we bit easier?
4

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:05:32
By Andrew Smith
RANGERS HAVE had it easy.

Is 20/20 hindsight the only quality you need to have get space in the Hootsman now?
5

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:07:06
one too to little there, oops.
6

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:08:57
A dawdle. At least compared to what lies ahead.

Am I reading this right?
7

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:10:11
Celtic's defeat yesterday helped enormously

Aye a wee bit
8

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:11:17
Andrew Smith

Is this what you do for a living?
9

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 01:16:29
"debilitatingly as aching limbs and a brutal run of matches. For followers of Rangers, a failure to add the league championship and Scottish Cup to their CIS Cup triumph would represent negligence."

Yup I can hardly believe how slap dash rangers have been this season.
Pure dead negligence it would be, so it would, so it would.
10

Jaggy,

06/04/2008 01:44:17
We need to win the next four SPL games. Then the league is won and we can field the U19s. The solution to fixture congestion is to win the league early.
11

Isprodanfityet ,

Doing The Bouncy 06/04/2008 02:13:18
Jaggy`s got it right,win the SPL as soon as we can then give some of the youngsters a chance.Today is a BIG game tho,we need the right attitude.I believe we will have it.
12

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 02:53:56
something strange about this list. cant put my finger on it. Ah no Celtic / Irish posters. League over?
13

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 03:03:21
17 He wasn't the only one. Happy days are nearly here again?
14

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 03:10:24
All over the world. I am sure that the local mosque imaan / shouter has a jauntier attitude this morning. I can just catch the words Rangers and league through the rest.
15

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 03:23:28
I think the pressure fell off today/ yesterday. Celtic are in disarray. Mr Smith can start to mix it up a bit. Give Barry a rest. Give Gow and others a game and have a real go at next Thursday night. A fresh and able Rangers team could win the UEFA.
16

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 03:43:34
23 Beer has never tasted so good.
24 Are there no Celtic posters today?
Wonderful. The girls from Parkhead are watching no doubt about it.
Do you think that Strachan can survive this or will Celtic make a huge mistake and keep the supporters happy with a Lennon appointment?
17

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 03:59:46
No living in snow or sunshine raskilli whatever? first poster usually. patrick mmmm celtic fair weather friends?
18

mideastbear,

06/04/2008 06:53:45
Congratulations to Walter for his manager of the month award, well deserved. Now we can expect Idee/2N on with his Walter the assaulter and SPL/SFA conspiracy theories, he will no doubt think WGS and the ginger dream team deserved it,

FAIL! FAIL! It must be grim being a Tim?

Surely?
Isn't it?
19

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 07:55:20
Ok, read the following (unlikely) scenarios and post yer vote:
A) Rangers blow it and lose the league on the last day of the season and get knocked out of the SC by Plastic Whistle. We then go on to lift the UEFA Cup by trouncing Bayern by 3 goals in the final.
OR
B) We win only the league cup (Celtic, Sporting and Aberdeen win the League, UEFA and Scottish Cup respectively) but we then sign Fabregas, Torres, Gattuso and Hutton!!
C) We win it the quadruple but Smith leaves followed by Ferguson, Cuellar, MacGregor, Thomson, Stevie Smith, and John Fleck.

A chin scratcher eh???



Ok, it is late, I'm tired and
20

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 07:56:54
......I'm sitting here at work with nothing but my imagination and a large coffee for company....
21

CaliforniaBhoy,

06/04/2008 08:00:45
It's not over! The advantage is yours, can you handle it? We'll see!

22

CaliforniaBhoy,

06/04/2008 08:04:29
Hoosger, therein lies the the problem!

Can youse lot get yer hands away from scratchin yer collective erse long enough to get the hands to the chin?
23

Daksar,

Perth Oz 06/04/2008 08:14:03
A famous biscuit here is called a Tim Tam..I only eat half of them! Heeheehee!
Go the Gers :)
24

Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 08:28:16
34 Daksar Which half? Don't think I would like to eat a Tim. or a Tam for that matter.
25

Barney Rubble,

06/04/2008 08:30:11
We needed 7 'wins' before the LOLtic result yesterday. Win our next 2 and its down to 3. A nice scenario. If we can get past SCP then we may be able to rest players in the SPL and concentrate on Europe and (hopefully) a SC semi v St Johnstone.
26

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 08:33:04
Ha, you really got me there CaliforniaBhoy!!!! But I can tell, deep down, you are feeling a wee bit neglected so i'll add another set of possible scenarios for your good self....

A) Rangers win the league but there is an unholy and violent protest from the Celtic-minded that the refs in Scotland are biased and that. The SFA and the SPL, in a wonderful show of capitulation, agree that bigotry and other things that end with 'ry' must be stamped out (including masonry) so a final league decider is set up between Rangers and Celtic at Hampden on condition that the match officials are ethnic Irishmen, Catholic and Celtic minded.
OR
B) Gordon Strachan resigns and is admitted to the Rottenrow suffering from acute lack of Celtic-mindedness. Aiden McGeady decides that he would rather play for Scotland.

Weigh up the merits of each (scratch your chin OR erse!) then tell me which you would prefer CB!! How is the weather in California?
27

Rabbie Burns,

Back Home 06/04/2008 08:38:46
Surely now is the time for Walter Smith to test the strength in depth of Rangers' squad? Despite Celtic's shortcomings, there are still 9 SPL games to go plus the cup matches. Webster, Smith, Beasley (is he fit?), Cousin, Boyd, Naismith, Whittaker, Novo, Burke, Buffel, Gow - all of these players have been used sparingly and rarely start games. Webster & Smith must be near to fitness now as must be Beasley. With all respect to Partick Thistle next Sunday in the cup replay, I'd rest McGregor, Cuellar, Ferguson, Darcheville, Thomson, etc. Wins at Tannadice today and Parkhead on the 16th and the title is won. Let us hope we can show resolve and get past Sporting Lisbon on Thursday. Now where is my map of Manchester.....
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Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 08:41:55
CaliforniaBhoy A true Irishman prepared to show his colours. I think the league is over and wee Strachan will be replaced by Lennon this week. This will be suicidal from a footballing point of view but will keep the Celtic minded happy. Celtic global brand is one of happy Irish and anti British. Pity but true. Money is not in Scotland and Desmond etc are not in it for their happy disposition to their countrymen. A doubt about Champions League money and this might be the quickest clear out of money in history. Not that there is money left anyway. The British taxpayer has been fleeced. Celtic supporter>Giro>Celtic>Dividend. What a racket.
29

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06/04/2008 09:00:47
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Dubai in Lagos,

06/04/2008 09:07:24
Any Celtic supporters out there?
31

revenger,

06/04/2008 09:17:43
10 man Motherwell are a force to be reckoned with.
32

Waitin´and hopin,

06/04/2008 09:18:31
# 40 Oh how you must be hurting. Just wait to next season when we bolster our team to compete with the might of Graveson and the rest of the WGS duds.Walter´s ripping the pash out of someone , for sure, and we know who it is !
Chip Chip Chip Ha Ha Ha
33

revenger,

06/04/2008 09:22:00
#40
Are you supposed to be an arbiter of dignity?
34

revenger,

06/04/2008 09:26:54
Would any Rangers' supporter like to try an experiment?
Post the same sort of accusations of criminal action against wee gordie that NN is alleging against Walter Smith.
Post the same sort of abuse against the celtc directors etc. and see how long the post stays up.
You are likely be banned.
Complain about NN/AJ fife/ideefixe and see if any action is ever taken.
35

Media 1,

cape town 06/04/2008 09:31:10
I disagree with the journalist!
There is no pressure on Rangers, none at all. You need to remember that this Rangers side have no right to be 6 ahead with two games in hand, but they are, thus they are way ahead of their intended target.
The domestic cups are an added bonus, they probably wanted to win one of them at the beginning of the season. Now they could win two.
UEFA Cup is a pleasant ride! Win or lose they are way ahead of their European target as well. So no pressure at all.
The problem is this; expectations have been raised, thus the Rangers fans are forgetting the bigger picture of where they were only last year.
If Rangers only win the leaugue and get pumped out the UEFA and the Scottish Cup, they will still be some two seasons ahead of were they wanted to be.
36

Dr No,

06/04/2008 09:34:11
40 The thing is Walter's worth every penny we pay him and we don't begrudge him any of the money. I wonder if you feel the same about what you pay Strachan?
37

nearlyneurotic,

C.I.S. Corruption.Is.Successful. !!! 06/04/2008 09:58:59
Hey Mabawza,its your uncle Andy thats the ref today.
Do you think there`s any chance,anychance that Dundee United will be allowed to compete on a level playing field today.
The ref certainly has more room for manouvre because Champions Celtic droppped points yesterday but the team from Dundee will still find it difficult to obtain a semblance of fairness even in their own back yard.

Football ?

Forget it.....ALL EYES ON MABAWZA`s uncle.

Scottish football deserves better.
Doesn`t it.

38

forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 10:04:23
looks like the last OF game is on the 26th of April as the compilers desperately try to avoid letting Rangers wrap the league up at the Brendanbeu but with the way the monobrows are playing and dropping points who knows we may once again be able to revel in their pain and watch as their support find out that man cannot fly by his own means.
39

revenger,

06/04/2008 10:08:23
#48
Terrible about the Masonic ref yesterday, would only send off one opposition player, what chance do vicTIMs fc have?
Shame for wee gordie, Riordan's waiting for him to go and lemmie waiting to fill his shoes.
Of course he has always been on a shoogly nail, imagine being the manager of a team whose supporters have physically assaulted you twice.
You'll soon have a celtc minded man at the helm, none of those dobs for the piggery.
40

forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 10:26:09
WGS is starting to TIMplode.
41

nearlyneurotic,

G.R.A.B. Get. "Ready". And. Beg. !!! 06/04/2008 10:31:11
#50

Stick to the subject Yanarse.
This story is about Walter,The Assaulter of the SPL 4th official.

Song moment..

Will he stay or will he go...

What a farce, with extra cow dung thrown in for good measure.
Anyone deemed good enough by Sir Wantaway to receive an away Sporting ticket...
Baw haw naw hahahahaha KAK...

G.R.A.B. them

Hoops 1234....hoops 1234...

Embarrassing.
Isn`t it.
42

Arthur Teak ,

dinburgh 06/04/2008 10:49:54
Why no comments facility on the Celtic v Motherwell match report? Is it because the moderators know that the Poops fans will disgrace themselves? Yes, I think that is the reason
43

Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:00:59
Let's be honest about this, we are in a much better position than we thought we would be this season and long may it continue!

We were poor on Thu night but at least we have the excuse of still chasing ALL tournaments we are in, the mob from the other side of the city have no excuses.

FF!
44

geo67,

06/04/2008 11:02:39
#54
and so say all of us...LOL
45

Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:03:11
And for this position we are in, we thank you Walter Smith!
46

geo67,

06/04/2008 11:09:05
Top Man that he is,


isn`t he.
47

geo67,

06/04/2008 11:15:47
Good to see our loyal fans being rewarded,with FREE tickets,to go and watch the Gers,playing in Europe.

Very rewarding,
isn`t it.
48

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 06/04/2008 11:15:52
#52 nn
i'm gettin bored with this bring oot idee fixee
actually
forget that they're enjoyin the padded room together
fail fail my fhriend
49

Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:16:32
Still, bringing Lennon back is not a panic decision.....
50

geo67,

06/04/2008 11:26:44
#60
Lennon took pelters from the celtic fans,as a player.
Don`t see that changing much,especially with their form so bad.
He has been brought in to deflect,critcism,of the other ginger whinger.

51

nearlyneurotic,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 06/04/2008 11:28:25
Ragz fanz are on here looking for someone to stir it up a bit instead of boringly talking claptrap to one another.

Along comes me at post #40 with a few home truths about Ragz and their manager Walter The Assaulter and it gets scrubbed.

Thats why the S.W.A.M.P.S.heaving concregated hordez think they narrapeepelinatno.
Because they keep telling and comforting each other that they are.
Self praise and cheating your way to silverware,aint no honour.

They are comforting each other with cow dung whilst avoiding the blindingly obvious.

Beyond sad that.
Isn`t it.

Pity ?....peut-etre.

Yes,pity.
Isn`t it.
52

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 11:29:20
Walter has that component that sets him apart: dignity. I will acknowledge that he can occasionally lose the plot, but by and large he is old style Rangers and that is what I like about him; Gordon Strachan may be a nice guy for all I know, but he comes across as a right wee nyaffy erse fairly often. When he takes the hump and spits out whatever comes into his mind during press interviews I truly thank heavens that he is not our manager. Again, Smith has that stable quality and you just know he is not going to embarrass Rangers when he opens his mouth. Talking about class and dignity and suchlike I still don't like to see Barry Ferguson as Rangers captain. Fine player indeed, but doesn't have enough class about him to be Gers captain. When you think back to Greig, Gough, Butcher and the like, he is certainly lacking....
53

Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:30:30
NN

Your jealousy is becoming obsessive, you have nothing positive to say about Shellick so you come out with the same repetitive nonsense day in, day out about the Gers.

Oh you are hurting yanarse!

Sad
Isn't it
54

geo67,

06/04/2008 11:31:31
Walter Smith, is a truly marvellous manager.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:31:52
Hoosger

Fair comments mate, I would like to see Cuellar as captain but obviously there is the language barrier
56

Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 11:38:55
Nearlyneurotic, you can remove the "nearly" part of your handle as the remainder suits you better. Are you serious about Rangers cheating their way to trophies? Self praise "ain't no honour" eh? Is it Celtic-minded modesty that prevents Celtic's fans from chuntering on about how they are the Greatest Fans In The World?

Havers and blethers...havers and blethers....

Finally, could you tell me what the blindingly obvious is?

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Nova Scotian,

Halifax Nova Scotia 06/04/2008 11:40:42

It is not certain that we will even make it into the semi's - Sporting were a useful team.

Althought the league, with the Hoops throwing it away yesterday, have all but givin it to us, two weeks earlier than we could have done it on our own.

I dont think Strachan will go - his pedigree is pretty good, however if he cant win next season its lights oot Gordy.

The Scottish Cup will come to Ibrox too - not bad (at least) a treble in Walter's first year back.


Happy days, but I must admit I am not sweating watching Rangers games like I used to.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 11:41:11
Hoosger

You don't get a straight answer from NN/IF!
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Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 11:52:46
Dougie, I should have added that I'd hate any changes to adversely affect the team chemistry as that seems to be one of the real strengths this year; there seems to be a genuine unity among the players, which is a far cry from the dressing room divisions during the dying days of Advocaat' tenure. but there is just something about having Barry as Rangers captain that sticks in my craw; there is no doubt that the players respect the guy but I still can't shake the feeling that if he hadn't made it as a professional he might be runnin' aroond the scheme tannin' Buckie and pannin' windaes. I might be being a bit unfair on the man but that is the impression he gives me.....
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06/04/2008 12:01:34
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:05:28
Hoosger

I know what you mean, Gough, etc were more dignified. The team is together, which is the most important thing. We are in a great position and you only need to read NN's posts to realise that he doesn't have an answer and comes out with his usual unfounded allegations.
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 12:06:39
We are glad that you are able to watch the Champions elect today NN and here's hoping for a dodgy gaol or two.
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52 times Champs - Rangers ,

Strachan admits it spells the end of his hopes 06/04/2008 12:08:03
71# your post is deleted as you should be.

S T A N D U P F O R T H E C H A M P I O N S
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:08:29
Standing up 52 times!
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Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 12:22:01
NN, I thought for a wee while there that mibbee cos you just got up you had trouble making yourself clear. I now realize that no amount of sleep could fix what ails you, and for that you have my pity. By all means keep typing stuff as it is very entertaining; I am sure my brethren in the blue corner would agree.

Seriously though NN, if you'd rather we CAN talk about football instead of conspiracy theories. So here is a question: Do you think that Lennon will ultimately get Strachan's job?
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06/04/2008 12:22:51
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06/04/2008 12:25:04
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:28:40
Now they will accuse the moderators of being masons!
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06/04/2008 12:36:14
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Bosco Bhoy,

---donegal--- 06/04/2008 12:39:10
So a poster is described as 'human detritus' for slagging of previous managers performance of a rival club but if you go on about child abuse your.........................?

Strange standards indeed!

Anyway back to the footie. Couple of bears on this thread being far too snobby and pretentious for their own good with talk of Bazza being a wee ned form the scheme. Although i do think that he is overrated ( just like McStay was beofre i get all the angry replys) he represents your typical football player especially in the west of Scotland. He is a working class guy from a council hoose state comp background and fair play to him for achieveing the succes he has.
Alaways remeber his genuine and sincere shake of the hands with Lennon at the last CFC/RFC match for Lennon.

MY God Cappelo has just given the armband to wide boy himself Ferdinand who hardley epitomises 'class' but then again he is a pro who can drive his team on ,just like Ferguson.

So please stop with the claptrap about schemes and buckie and get yer head out of yer prawn sandwiches.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:44:10
Bosco

I always think your comments are fair and maybe the talk of Fergie with the buckie is too far but he is not the right character for the captaincy. Maybe the game lacks old captains like Gough, Butcher,etc and just because we have a go at his somewhat 'ned' like attitude sometimes does not mean we are being snobby.
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06/04/2008 12:48:24
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 12:49:27
Dougie

I take yer point but as you have alluded to, society doesnt provide individuals like that anymore.

Guys with the class of a Henrik or Laudrup will not come out of the schemes and become a professional player. Think of Faddy and how the media loved the wee wide boy image, the gallus smart ass from Castlemilk --now that is sadly more the norm.
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 12:51:01
83

May is suggest you ignore a poster if you feel they are just pathetic wind up merchants as so many are on this forum.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:53:12
Bosco

Fair comment mate and as you say, if you snort white powder, Capello gives you the England captaincy. 30 mill for Rio, one of the wonders of the world!
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 12:56:03
I will say this about Bazza, yes he is a tad overrated but i and 99% of fellow Celts would have been happier if had stayed at Blackburn.

He is often the major and only driving force RFC have and he cares so much about his club he infects others with this passion.
And sometimes he can find an excellent pass but not as often as he should, but then if you are relying on Boyd type players to make brilliant runs down the channels then you will be waiting a wee while.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 12:59:15
Bosco

I just think Fergie would play a bit better if he didn't have the added responsibility of being captain as well but I agree, he is the major driving force at our club. Most vital players to me this season have been McGregor and Cuellar, both outstanding.

Do you think WGS should go now?
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Bosco Bhoy,

---Donegal----- 06/04/2008 13:22:51
IMHO he has failed to get the players to demonstrate and produce anything near their potential.

Just as bad is that most of his big signings have not delivered and this has been crucial as most of WS have contributed significantly to the RFC cause.

Lets see how the next 7 matches pan out but i did have mey reservations about how CFC played long before now.

Cant understand why he continues with VoH and thats just one of several big questions. Yes he has done well, but in Scotland its maybe the flip of a coin wether CFC or RFC are on top but as fans we need to look closer and ask is the manager maximising resources at the club and for me im moving to the 'no' camp re WGS.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 13:47:15
54 Dougie,

I have to disagree with you Dougie when you said "the mob from the other side of the city has no excuses"

That's all you hear from some tic supporters,

Bias referee's
Masonic conspiracy
Spl schedule conspiracy
Media conspiracy
Our manager not Celtic minded

etc, etc, etc.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 14:02:14
4-4-2 today for the Gers

Should be an exciting match!
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Hoosger,

Indiana, US 06/04/2008 14:18:12
Bosco Bhoy, I am no prawn sandwich eater nor am I a snob. I had a typical West of Scotland council house upbringing. All the same I definitely take your point about my comments on Ferguson. As I said earlier, my impression of the guy might be skewed but it is hard to shake. About 12-13 years ago my brother (who IS a snob;-) heard Barry telling some young boys "no' the noo, noo f*** off" when they asked him for his autograph. That is a pretty hard image to erase and since then, fair or unfair, I have a hard time viewing Barry as a first class guy and typical Rangers captain. You could argue that maybe I expect too much from Rangers skippers, but I don't think so. It has to be said though that if all I have to complain about is Barry's character, then Gers must be doing well...............or maybe, I am a feckin malcontent!
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Real King of Spain,

Strachan concedes 'all is lost' 06/04/2008 14:50:01
What a goal Davie Weir. C'mon the C H A M P I O N S
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 15:26:26
Sniper Boyd ties the match....online tv sucks, but Clyde 2 makes it sound exciting.

Come on the Gers!
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Bosco Bhoy,

---Donegal----- 06/04/2008 15:32:24
92 Hoosger

OK, your not a snob but i do think your being pretty harsh re a one of recollection about Bazza. I wonder how many of our sporting heros cant have a similar tale or 2 dozen attributed to them.

A few years back Celtic team over in Donegal for a testmonial dance and i can teel you i left the big expensive meal with a less than positive view than some of the guys i had idolised since they got us to Seville. Far too many drunken arrogant twits on the night if you get my drift.

Sounds like fun at Tannadice.
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Tim Malloy Resurrected,

Paradiso 06/04/2008 15:56:49
Well a good game at tannadice. And once again Utd were robbed.

More cheating from Rangers - boyd's dive was worse than Thomson's last week.

More booting from Rangers - McCulloch and Daily a disgrace.

More dodgy decisions by the officals - Novo was offside and the first goal wasn't a freekick.

More sectarian and disgusting singing by the Rangers fans - isn't it about time Murray, Bain and Gordon Smith got a grip of these scvm.

All that besides it was a good game.

Noel Hunt, Sean Dylan and David Robertson for Celtic - all fine players.

Two points dropped by Rangers but they have still done enough. I just can't see them failing to win 4 of their remaining 8 games.
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Tim Malloy Resurrected,

Paradiso 06/04/2008 15:57:37
Off to the gym and then chapel before all the bigots arrive.

adios
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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 15:57:45
Well done to DUFC for bringing our winning run to an end. Great game, hugely entertaining when it got going.
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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 15:59:45
Tim, you don't half talk crap. None of the points you mention bare any relation to the truth but that shouldn't surprise anyone coming from you bitter bhoy.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:07:21
97 Pax resurrected as Tim Malloy

Bye bye,,,dignity indeed.
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 16:07:54
WGS should give Craig a call and ask for some tips to score against us.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:25:06
So the lead is only 7 points with a game in hand, oh well we can put them out of their misery with a win on the 16th, that will be 10 points clear with a game in hand.

United played well and the tic will have to meet them after the split. Come on the Well next week. lol
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:27:20
Oh, the Rangers are sh!te.
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06/04/2008 16:28:26
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:30:31
105: just a statement of fact: the Rangers ARE sh!te
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:31:37
104 _John_

You seem to have trouble with reality and the meaning of words....

your post 104 and you saying you have dignity
there are other words you have trouble with, and I'm sure you'll be using them soon, as per the programme, so I won't mention them.

Sad
Aren't you?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:32:57
Yous are havin a good season, but we have dignity.

Footballing success is transient but dignity & class are permanent.
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06/04/2008 16:34:52
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:34:54
Having dignity and calling your rivals sh!te in the next sentence is a wee bit ironic, isn't it?

Maybe that should be your next pseudonym? Ironic 'tic?
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:36:40
Celtc fans yesterday with obscene chants about Strachan....aye, pure dead dignity!

LMAO!!
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:37:04
He's back,,

You change names quick these days, only an hour ago you were Tim Malloy Resurrected. Well done.

So 7 points clear with a game in hand, but I will show some dignity and not go on about it. lol
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:37:50
Calling other football fans names is dignity....

there's a huge list.

Maybe you'll want to check the dictionary for a better word, _John_?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:41:44
Pax

If you want to hear about dignity you should have listened to Radio Clyde and the tic supporters calling in regarding WGS. A right dignified lot they sound over the radio.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:44:35
Is that what green-tinted specs do for you?

You couldn't make this up!
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:45:15
Sensible Sid / Pax / NN / Chatta/ Tim Malloy Resurrected.

We feel you pain.

Stand up for the champions elect.
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Bosco Bhoy,

---donegal----- 06/04/2008 16:46:09
114 Daily

Yep Celtic would be the first club who have fans that when things are going badly on the pitch start to ask questions about the manager/or call for his resignation.
I mean this never happens at RFC. Advocatt and PLG both left after getting full backing 24 7 from the Ibrox faithful.It was mutually agreed wasnt it?

I do wish some posters could engage their brain before they press enter.
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06/04/2008 16:48:54
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Bosco Bhoy,

---Donegal---- 06/04/2008 16:49:02
IMHO Rangers are shi*e and are dire to watch, problem is that this season looks like CFC are MORE shi*e.

Could we just show some common sense and say this season the quality of footie has been poor?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:49:57
Bosco

I know the Gers did the same thing its just a wind up, its been a while since we were able to go on like this, and to honest I am directing the comments to Pax,NN,Sensible Sid,Tim Malloy Resurrected,

Again just a windup, its been along 2 years.
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06/04/2008 16:50:36
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 16:52:22
121 The No

No arguement there from me, just incase you think im suggesting its only crap because RFC look like winning the title.

Both teams have donkeys playing for them that would have hardley made the reserves bench 10 years ago.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:52:31
116

Sensible Sid YES
Pax YES
NN NO
Chatta YES
Tim Malloy Resurrected.NO

Your vivid imagination is not my problem.


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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 16:54:08
Ok Dailyman

Windups are allowed its just often it leads to the 1690/1916 brigade destroying the forum for what it can be about , footbal craic.
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06/04/2008 16:54:16
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:54:44
114

Celtic's fan base is a broad church.

We have big, small, fat, thin, educated and fools.

CFC is open to all, and always have been - and always will be.

Our Club has class and dignity. Yours has none.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:55:30
Oh, the Rangers are sh!te.
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06/04/2008 16:56:44
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:57:52
120

I wonder whether you expect Celts to wither and fade in the torrent of your gloating. Others may, but this Celt is made of sterner stuff.

You gimme some of it, and I'll give it back to you with interest.

Oh, and the Rangers are still sh!te.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 16:58:38
Bosco,

Let me ask you, if the tic were on course to win a major honour this season would you still think they were "More sh!te"?

As I said in the past WS came in to level a rocky team who had to fight to grab 2nd spot last season and the CL place.

This season WS has played a very defensive, some say boring style of football that has produced results. Given the position he has put the club in and tightening things in midfield and at the back, with the summer coming and money to spend he might look to bring in some flair to the squad.

The foundation is there and I am sure WS will add a couple of quality signings to add to his squad.



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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 16:58:48
128: My Club has dignity and class. Yours has neither.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 16:58:53
I've said it a few times, that this Rangers team is far better than last year, but is by no means the finished article.
All Rangers fans should understand that we have an average team, full of players who play for the jersey.
That really does make the difference when it comes to tight matches. They have the ability to reach deep and pull something from their hearts to get a result.

They've far exceeded my expectations, with more to come. Any more trophies this year and Ibrox will be delirious.

Of course, it helps that Celtc are struggling to keep the results coming in.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:00:03
130

So......Rangers ARE sh!te, but Wally is gonna go oot and buy some good players in the summer, honest guv.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 17:01:54
I see _John_ has changed his tune from earlier when he said "we have dignity". It's now been changed to "My club has dignity..."

LOL
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 17:02:15
Why do you always post like an imbecilic big waen Sid?
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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 17:02:34
More revisionism from Pax.

Celtc are open to everyone and hope they always will be but they did not start that way. If you know your history....

Go and read the clubs founding declararion again and not the recently revised one please.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:03:39
124 Bosco,

I never touch the points you mention, I don't do the sectarian, bigot, or beliefs issue.

Like you I would rather the threads be left to the footie talk. Come on the Gers!!!!!!!!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:04:09
135: Same tune, different verse.

Club: RFC has neither class nor dignity.

Fans: when they sang today "We will be mastered by no F€nian basturd" - do you think that might be a tad bigoted?
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 17:04:54
130 Dailyman

I did say to my 'inner circle' of friends and family over the last 2-3 years that Celtic were pretty average and not great on the eye and just because we won things didnt really signify to me we were anything to fear.

To put it another way i dont think it would take a lot for a Hibs/Hearts/Dundee Utd or whoever to mount a challnege to us for the SPL title as we both have so many ordinary players.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:05:12
137: I stand by my comment.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 17:06:45
139 In your own words, you've said you don't think that term is bigoted.

I rest my case, you bore me.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:07:48
133 SS

Do you ever make a contructive point regarding football.

Or is "Rangers are s----" you're limit. At least Bosco,sonof,swordsman,etc, and other dignified tic supporters can talk about the game.
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Colin P,

06/04/2008 17:07:55
Gers fans...which game do you think will be the title clincher?
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Bosco Bhoy,

06/04/2008 17:09:14
Anyway guys im off, got to spray some major weed killer on my garden as the fecking stuff is sprouting out everywhere.

Shi* forgot in cyber world you usually employ a muppet who tends to be a poorly educated bufoon from the the other lot to do that, isnt that right?

I will get that hang of this big baws forum crap one day.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:14:44
140 Bosco

Given the financial gulf between the OF clubs and the rest of the SPL, they will continue to dominate Scottish football, occasionally one team outside the OF will win a league cup or SC, but in general I cannot see them winning a league title.

The current Gers squad are not a shade on the teams from the 9IAR era, and Cuellar and Ferguson are the only 2 I could see getting a game for the teams that took the title 9 seasons on the trot.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:16:51
146 Bosco

Show some dignity and offer the job to Pax.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:22:21
148: Not as stupid suggestion as you might think...

I know where Bosco lives....and I know the splendour and beauty of the area.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:22:48
144: Yes.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:24:34
150 When???????????
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 17:25:58
Poor senseless Sid, the debating skills of an intellectual pygmy and the personality rating lower than George Bush at a Mosque fund raiser, give it up Sid.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:28:25
Utd fully deserved their point today, I am just glad the Gers have defended like that the rest of the season.

Still, 2 poor games against Lisbon and Utd and we never lost either, stuff of champions!
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:28:45
Sorry, *haven't*
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:29:51
152 forbsey

But he has dignity!!!lol

I have yet to see him post a critical or constructive comment regarding a football match, or maybe I just missed the ONE that day.lol
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:32:53
153 Dougie,

From where United finished last season and where CL has gotten them to now has been a terrific management job.

He has picked up players no one had heard of and put together a decent football playing side.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:34:06
151: many times.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 17:34:08
how many domestic match's are we now undefeated, i cant remember?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:34:27
152: your truth aversion is noted.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:34:50
158

A lot more than the tic.lol
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:34:55
153: the Rangers are sh!te.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:35:27
154: LOL!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:36:15
156: Yup, did a great job at Hearts too.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:36:31
158: 3.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:37:31
Daillyman

Defo, still another point to us in the race and all is not well at the dump! Lennon for next manager, LOL!
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 17:38:19
are you sure sid?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:38:21
155; Yup, I dont follow follow the most bigoted anti Catholic Club in Europe.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:38:41
166: your memory returning?
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 17:41:01
yes i think its 28
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:42:32
SS

Burke?
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 17:44:16
he makes it up as he goes along
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:44:32
170: I was close, eh?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:44:46
171: Boyd.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:45:10
172: Sorry - wrong cheat.
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06/04/2008 17:45:54
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:47:59
SS

Aye, he fell over like a big pansy, happy? Nakamura has been doing it for years
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:48:06
Sid the tics last 5 league matches

Tic 2 Hibs 0
Tic 3 Gretna 0
Tic 0 United 0
Tic 0 Gers 1
Tic 0 Well 0

Can't wait for the 16th to wrap up the league.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:50:17
178 Dougie

It was defnitly a penalty, these referee's just have it in for Rangers. lol
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:50:56
Daillyman

YOu are being too kind, Well beat them 1-0 yesterday!
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:51:33
SS

What players at CP right now are good enough to play for the club?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:52:18
178: no explanation for Boyd's actions then? Just cheating? Again?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:52:49
181 Dougie,

My mistake, apologies Pax.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:53:19
179:


Tic 0 Well 1
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:53:53
184: no probs - no-one is infallible.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:54:26
185 see 184
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:54:41
SS

No explanation, thought he would try and get a free-kick for it but didn't, unlike Naka at Love St
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:55:01
No explanations then, guys?

My son has just explained that there was a sudden gust of wind, and it blew him over.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 17:55:54
186

If WS gives us the treble, then he will be infallible, for this season anyway. lol
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:56:12
188:

Just cheating then.

Naka was tackled. Sometimes he goes down "cheaply" - but he was tackled in the incident you referred to.

Boyd just cheated. No dignity.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:56:45
Pax

Tell you son that is a decent explanation, I think Naka's excuse was he was chibbed with a glass bottle of Irn-Bru!
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 17:57:57
Pax

Always an excuse from you eh? Tackled? I have seen my dear old gran (79 yrs old) tackle harder!

Anyway, you avoided my question, who at CP is good enough to stay?
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 17:58:03
Walter Smith manager of the month, soon to be manager of the year. What a season for the mighty Rangers.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 17:59:06
194: yous are having a good season but we have dignity.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:00:39
193:

No, that's not true, you havent.

Naka WAS tackled, and the Ref thought it was a foul, and so did I.

Boyd was not tackled. He just dived. Cheated.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:00:50
189

It seems to be part of certain players make up, to try to win free kicks penalties etc, we may not like it but it seems to be ingrained into the game today. Its the same when a player fouls another, the player fouled simulates to the ref showing a card to be given to the opposing player. Its a part of the game we could all do without, but sadly its there.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:01:38
198:

List other players you have seen diving in similar circumstances ie when he had NOT been tackled.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:02:22
198:

To help you, I can think of only one: Gilardino of AC Milan did it at CP. Hilarious.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 18:02:24
Pax

I thought you would defend the challenge, no surprises there.

Boyd did dive, not disagreeing with you.

Still not answered my question about who is good enough at CP so I reckon that must mean you think none of them are, fair comment
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:03:58
198:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAL2DAXR3H8
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:05:14
199

Why can a general discussion on the flaws of the professional game not be enough.

I give you one specific player if you want, Jarosik of the tic against Man United in the CL, blatant dive free kick awarded and Naka scores from the free kick.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:05:29
201:

Yes, but there WAS a challenge.

In Burke's case there was not.

So, Boyd dived - like Gilardino. See 202.

Same dramatic feigned indignation when the Ref didnt award a foul.

Why wasnt Boyd booked?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:06:32
203:

I think you'll find Jiri was tackled.

Boyd was not.

Let me ask you again: List other players you have seen diving in similar circumstances ie when he had NOT been tackled.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:07:17
the league flag is coming home to ibrox.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 18:07:27
BURKE WAS NOT PLAYING!!!!!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:08:16
Sh!t, I'm saying Burke again in #204!

Wrong cheat again...

I do mean Boyd, guys.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:08:34
207: See 208.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 18:08:46
Excuse after excuse from Pax/PV/Chatta/John/SS and would we expect anything less? Course not!

Title is safely coming to Ibrox, WGS will probably need to walk from his job when he fails to beat the Gers at CP this season, oh what joy!
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 06/04/2008 18:08:49
A poor performance against an invigorated DUFC team still reaped a point more than Political FC's defeat to Well. Not pretty stuff but aslong as we match Political FC point for point then the league is ours.

However word of caution...2003...Political FC bottled it. I do not want Rangers to fall into the same trap.

Oh and SS asking why Boyd fell over..can only imagine he was so startled by hearing the news Pax/SS posts dignified comments he fell over.

Remember SS...your mantra is...repeat it a million times then my warped view becomes the truth

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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:09:07
207:

So, what caused BOYD to go over?

Why wasnt he booked?
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:09:57
anyone think the tic will drop points next week to motherwell?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:10:09
Sorry lads I must give up its like talking to the wall only I get better feedback from the plaster.

Pax no one is disagreeing with you Boyd took a dive!!!

Jarosik was never tackled, he took a dive as well.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:10:29
211: a new truth evasion tactic?

Boyd cheated.

He dived.

No tackle.

Just dived.

Not booked.

Why?
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Tim Malloy Resurrected,

Paradiso 06/04/2008 18:11:55
Pax/Sid

Just back from the Gym and just dropping in before I go to the Holy Mass at 6.30.

To your point on other players who have dived in a similar manner to Cheat Boyd.

Kevin Cheat Thompson
Novo the hobo
Darseville
Broadfoot
John Polaris McDonald
Lovenkrands
Sandy Clark
McCoist (he must be teaching Boyd and Co how to do it)

They say cheats never prosper and I hope every Celtic fan to a man boos every time Boyd and Thomson touch the ball in Old Firm games. They both deserve it.

My beef however is not so much with Rangers or their cheats, my beef is with Gordon Smith CEO of the SFA. A man who said at the start of the season he was going to stamp this cheating out of the game.

So far he has done NOTHING about Broadfoot and Thompson last week and I will bet he does nothing about the disgrace of Boyd today.

Smith also said he'd stamp out sectarian singing - yet again today the full songbook was out - with fen.ian bazzas being heard loud and clear.

Rangers FC. Still can't win anything playing fair.

Off to Chapel now to pray for the bigots and unfortunates among us and for the Lord to give Gordon Smith some backbone to face up to his duties.

God Bless
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:12:03
214:

More lies, D?

Vidic tackled Jiri.

No-one tackled Boyd.

He just dived.

Why wasnt he booked?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:12:51
216: Say one for me.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 18:13:03
Pax

Coz the ref didn't book him, simple as!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 18:13:03
To answer an earlier point, it is now 53 points from the last 57 for Rangers. That's 17 wins and 2 draws from the last 19 SPL matches.

We could also include 5 cup matches in our run. Motherwell, Hearts and Dundee Utd in the CIS Cup, and Hibs twice in the Scottish Cup. So it's actually 21 wins and 3 draws from our last 24 matches against SPL opposition.

Our Ibrox record during this run is perfect, with our 3 draws all coming at difficult away venues, Pittodrie, Easter Road and Tannadice. Every single SPL club has been beaten by Rangers during this run, some more than once.

It consitutes impressive consistency, and it is to Celtic's credit that they have been able to hang in sufficiently to ensure that their title defence lasts beyond the "split". However, barring a miracle, Rangers point-gathering looks certain to bring the reward of the SPL trophy.

Happy days.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:13:10
how p!sh is this celtc team?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:13:40
Daily,

were you suggesting earlier that Tim and i were one and the same?

Would you like to withdraw your suggestion now?

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Rouleur,

On ma bike 06/04/2008 18:13:46
Anyway now looking forward to thursday's game. I think our chances of qualifying are 70/30 in favour of Sporting. We looked a little leaden footed today and their pace/movement will cause us problems. However if we can keep it tight then you never know a cheeky goal from a set piece could do it for us.

Whatever the result though I must say well done Rangers for the great run!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:14:11
221: Oh, the Rangers are sh!te.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:15:10
223: and if yous are defeated by a deft bit of Portuguese diving, you wont complain?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:15:32
219: Why?
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Tim Malloy Resurrected,

06/04/2008 18:15:48
Sorry Sid

Just remembered...Burke as well is a seriel diver.

Cheat Burke
Cheat Boyd
Cheat Thomson
Cheat Darseville

Crikey the next OF game will be a cacophony of boos if Rangers are in possession...mind you that's a big IF.
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Dougie D,

JHQ Loyal 06/04/2008 18:16:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFBaanuFiVQ

And with that, I bid you all a fair evening!

FF!
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:17:26
I think its great that the tic supporters come on the threads and show so much interest in RFC, and for that you have my thanks.

I can understand why it is being done, there is simply nothing positive to talk about down a Celtic Park.

So again you comments about the SPL's premier team are welcome. And Pax remember the blue room is not bare anymore. Enjoy.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 06/04/2008 18:18:49
225...are you a DUFC fan?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:19:58
229:

Look at this video, you'll see your earlier lie exposed:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ba7_uXeWgkY&feature=related

"Caught from behind by Vidic"
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:20:19
230: No.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:21:21
its coming home
its coming home
the spl is coming home

yes it is a great time to be a Rangers fan
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:22:54
227: Recall Peter Lovencheat?

Fatally injured by a plook on Thommo's forehead?

And Sotiris Stupiduglygreekguy?

Threw himself to ground as John Hartson passed by?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:23:47
233: but still yous have no dignity.

Yous are bad winners.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:24:11
234: no dignity.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 06/04/2008 18:25:06
232..well I can't then understand why on this forum you only discuss Boyd's blatant dive? Surely you should be discussing all forms of blatant cheating happening all across the SPL/EPL/world football etc. SS you are such a zealot you could really focus your energy into something positive.....however I doubt it.

Oh the Celtic are shoite
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 18:25:49
#216 South Park dHimmy
Your back! And still spouting the same Pee-hash!
"We wuz robbed", "Its a conspiracy!", " The ref was against us!"
Absence did not make the heart grow fonder........

The inTIMidation of the refs continues unabated. Yesterday I thought aat one point the poor ref was going to pull on a ghastly wHoopies top such was his desire to be seen as "Them minded". Even with Malcolm sent off the Pee-tics could not win.

Today we had another ref trying his darnest to be seen as not "Rangers minded". Another blatant penalty turned down against us. Due to inTIMidation Rangers could well still win this SPL with the lowest tally of penalties awarded to them of ANY team. Remember it stands to reason that the best scoring team in the division has spent the most time in the opposition 18yrd box to achieve it.

Oh the MOPEs will be so proud but "disBELIEVING" at the same time.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:28:37
239:

List other players you have seen diving in similar circumstances ie when he had NOT been tackled.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:29:50
240: and in English?
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:32:26
maybe next week if motherwell are reduced to 9 men, then maybe celtc will get a point
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:33:37
Rouleur,

Struggling?

I can only think of:

Gilardino
Kyrgiakos
Lovencheat

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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:34:03
"We have added 5 quality players to our team while Rangers have signed nothing"

That was the theme of the posts from certain tic supporters after the January transfer window.

Ha Ha Ha, what a load of rubbish.

The Gers are,

Top of the league
Last 8 in UEFA Cup
Still in the Scottish Cup-----remember that tournament
CIS Cup winners 2008

We feel you're pain Pax. lol @ Pax.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:36:12
5 wins out of 8 for the mighty Rangers and we are champions, that's if celtc can win all there remaining games which is a big ask for that lot.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:39:12
247

Get you're sister to report them for you. She works closely with who is it? the SPL SFA Celtic FC their legal advisers. Show some dignity man the better team will win the league. lol
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:39:16
Jarosick dived, Vidic never touched him.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:40:11
oh the blue bells are blue
oh the blue bells are blue
oh the blue bells are blue
oh the blue bells are blue

oh the celtc are sh!te
oh the celtc are sh!te
oh the celtc are sh!te
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:41:33
#253

I think he said his sister is always in the lawyers or something like that.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:42:24
254:

Vidic tackled him.

Who tackled Boyd today?

Thon big bad blade of grass?
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 18:43:21
A lost oppo for Rangers today to wrap it up and the result served them right. Wattie chose today to play 4-4-2 and the players in the middle seemed lost in adopting it. Utd totally dominated the midfield from start to finish and Gonzalez had one of the best performances Ive seen in the SPL this season. Big Carlos had a poor game (but is instantly forgiven). Why do players get themselves into interviewathons before important matches, it almost always returns to haunt them. Witty and McC had poor games with the former the bigger culprit. I would have started with McC and Boyd up front and JCD and Novo our wide men.No wonder Wattie does not play 4-4-2 more often he still, to me, seems unsure of where best to place his players. Rangers must pray for a hungry Cousin to return early and if hes up for it, he will see us over the finish line. This chase for third place will mean this title race going all the way, if RAt-ic are upfirit. RAt-ic fell at the first hurdle whilst Rangers stumbled long enough for it to not make much difference. On this weekends form ALL teams the OF meet, may well fancy taking points off each of them, with a big prize of their own to incentivise. Vive the SPL!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:43:37
256

Yep, that's the one.

Proves Daily lied.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:43:55
260: and in English?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:44:25
254 forbsey

I know he dived but you will never convince Pax of those facts.

Back to you now SID Carry On. lol
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:44:46
253:

You're upset.

You lied.

I exposed you.
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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:44:48
how you doing forbesy, the last time i was on here a certain poster used my name to confuse you, guess who, 7 points clear a game in hand, its coming home.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:45:23
263:

Are you suggesting my view is that Jiri did not dive?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 18:45:51
262

I don't do lies, show some dignity with what you post.
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:47:22
Vidic got the ball and was nowhere near Jarosick, look at link provided by #256

And yes Boyd dived which I wish he didn't as I don't want to be lowered to Celtic's level a.k.a.

Maloney
Larsson
Petrov
Sutton

Some of them are better divers than Greg Louganis
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:49:03
269:

You insist you dont lie but when I look at #214 I see you lied.

See 268. Answer please?

See 222. Answer, please?



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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:50:33
Hi Turk, I'm great and I must have had an off day to be taken in by that plank, how are you?

It certainly is coming home!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:51:14
270:

So, you're lying too?

It's endemic amongst you lot.

See that guy beside big Jiri when he was taking his dive? Nowhere near? Didnt tackle him?

Bawwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 18:52:31
#267

Definitely demonstrating the renowned Continental flair for going to ground. Kevin Thomson could learn a lot from it.

The defender certainly did "make a tackle" in the vicinity of Jarosik, although it certainly didn't succeed in making contact with the player, other than the right hand momentarily lightly brushing the back of Jarosik's knee.

A classic example of the art, but I'm sure that every Celtic fan was quick to give Jarosik an earful for such brazen playacting.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:53:23
Imagine the scene...

10 mins to go...

CL game...

Man U at CP...

Celtic midfielder running towards ManU goal...

Meets rather large international ManU defender....

BUT HE DOESNT TACKLE HIM!!!!


BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGGHHHH!!!

Anyone told Fergie????

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scottish turk,

06/04/2008 18:54:24
doing great forbesy, been over in Turkey for the last 2 weeks, watched the oldfirm match in a bar with 4 Rangers men and 7 celtc men, the look on there face when Thompson scored priceless.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:54:33
276: thank you.

Any idea why your pals are denying the undeniable?

Strange bunch!!
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:54:51
Nobody is saying Vidic didn't perform a tackle, he did and it was perfect and he never grazed a hair on Jarosicks leg who then took the opportunity to dive.

Are you saying there was any contact between players?
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 18:56:15
#271 Einagrossen..........

See 268. Answer please?

See 222. Answer, please?

Some things never change....................

Repeat queation adnaus.........please.
Ignore any answer other than some times to bleat explain..............
Repeat question.............
Ignore answer.................please.

Oh the power of your debating skills (not)


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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:56:57
why are you saying thankyou?

Of course Vidic tackled but he never touched Jarosick who then fell over.

Again are you saying there was any contact?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:57:20
281

Actually, forbesy, if you look at #214 you'll find that someone IS saying Jiri wasnt tackled!

If you reckon I'm saying there was no contact, can you tell me which post # you're referring to?

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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 18:58:06
#280 Pox
denying the undeniable?

Oh the power??????????

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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 18:58:12
Are you saying there was any contact?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:58:47
284:

I'm saying thank you because he posted the truth - a view identical to mine.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 18:59:36
287:

In the tackle Daily denied?

The Daily who doesnt lie?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:00:53
No Ronnies

In 278 you insits no tackle.

In 288 you insist tackle.

Are you now arguing with yourself?

Baaawwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 19:01:02
# 285 Pox
no contact, can you tell me which post # you're referring to?

Explain......Ignore.........Repeat...........Explain............

Do any of the sparring partners think Poxy will actually ENGAGE in arguments, hes a donkey chewing a carrot!

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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:01:32
No Ronnies

In 278 you insist NO tackle.

In 288 you insist THERE WAS a tackle.

Are you now arguing with yourself?

Baaawwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:02:39
Yooo hoo???

Daily???

You seem to have gone quiet!!!

Yooo hoo!!!

Hiding????

Been caught lying????

Naughty naughty Daily!!!
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forbesy1873,

06/04/2008 19:03:29
If your view is identical Bemused is saying he dived and cheated as even though there was a tackle there was virtually no contact therefore no need to go to ground.

Anyway I have to go to pick up the Chinese (meal that is not person)

I will leave you with the differnece between us.

Boyd dived and cheated, I admit it.

Jarosick dived and you deny it.

I live in the real world.

You don't.
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 19:03:32
#291 Pox
In 278 you insits no tackle.
In 288 you insist tackle.
Are you now arguing with yourself?

Repeat repeat, ignore.....snore! Explain(please)....

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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:04:11
You're a strange bunch!

You really are!!!

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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 19:06:21
Just watching the game again now. Did anyone see big Lee Wilkies assault on Novo after he scored? I didn't notice it this afternoon but watching it agian now iot is obvious.
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 19:07:52
#299
You're a strange bunch!

You really are!!!

OH my god! How earth shatteringly astute.....insightful....

Explain.......Ignore...........Repeat..........Accuse............Ignore.........Repeat..........

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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:08:23
forbesy 297:

So, you're LYING too!!!

Ho hum, forbesy!!

Which part of "See that guy beside big Jiri when he was taking his dive?" did you not understand, forbesy? (See post #275)

How can you construe that as me denying it?

Lying is absolutely endemic amongst you lot.

BE must despair.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:08:46
301: Yes. I saw it.
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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 19:09:53
Sctosman Footie Quiz

Just talk p1sh all day long and people will get bored of me then I'll say no-one can answer my questions.

Who am I?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:10:25
300

I think you'll find 278 and 288 are yours.

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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 19:10:25
290 SS

I said I was leaving the forum, changed my mind so in Pax's view I lied. My opinion is it was my choice not to go.

Said that you and TMALLOY Resurrected were one and the same, my mistake I lied in you're opinion.
I had not realised you had let him off his lead my mistake.
Jarosik was never tackled in my opinion he took a dive, to win a free kick. Just my opinion, but if Pax does not agree its a lie. Oh my and he goes on about dignity, what a sad wee man.
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JAFFNE,

06/04/2008 19:11:04
#303

Can only imagine the wqee man was getting under his skin.
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 19:11:47
#307
Explain, please...........
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:15:23
309



Your opening sentence is nonsense. God only knows what you're on about there. Sheesh.

Ref Tim Malloy - I didnt say you had lied. Why have you said I did?

Some things are NOT about opinions. This is just a fact, Daily: Vidic TACKLED Jiri. There was minimal contact, if any. Jiri dived.

My boss used to say: when in a hole, stop digging.

You have been found out today, Daily, so dont give us the "I dont do lies" rhetoric, when we're looking at your lies.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:16:40
310: Dont think there was any contact.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:18:30
316: that's a startling thing for you to admit here, and very brave of you. Well done!
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:18:47
317: Yes.
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 19:19:10
Pax 304

"BE must despair"

You undignified hypocrite, for weeks you and you're mate Tim Malloy did nothing but accuse the man(BE) of being an unmitigated liar regarding a story he told.

Why don't you crawl back under the rock you came from.



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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:20:16
320

You're upset.

You've been caught lying.

Now, you want to attack me for the things Tim said?

You really are a strange one.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:21:04
321: You're confused. Ask your Care Worker.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:21:54
322: Seems rather obvious to me. Took others a long time to catch up....but yous got there in the end.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:22:43
325:

He is a cheat.

He should have been booked.

He wasnt.

Why?
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Daillyman,

06/04/2008 19:28:36
323 SS

Not upset at all, you're hypocrisy amazes me, you and you're mate TM went to town on BE. for quite a while.

The difference between us is, when I make a mistake I can admit to being wrong. And I was wrong in trying to originally get into a debate about football with you, you just don't do football. MY MISTAKE. Enjoy the rest of you're evening I know you will do you're best to close down another thread, its a ritual for you.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 19:29:40
Talking of cheating, I've just had another look at the CCTV footage of the Kevin Thomson "glass attack" last Saturday night.

There is no doubt in my mind that Thomson deliberately moves towards the tumbler and allows it to hit his head, in a transparent attempt to get the thrower ejected from the club.

Disgraceful.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:32:18
331:

But you cannot admit you erred, can you?

The rest of the Board can readily see Vidic tackled Jiri. Even the Gers. Why cant you?

Various videos have been provided FFS!

There's no hypocrisy from me. BE is one of the better guys on the Baord, but he occasionally posts sh1te - and when he does I tell him too. Examples available.

Your final quip is another lie. You cant stop yourself, can you?

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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:32:52
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I havent seen that. Is there a link?
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TheBoke.,

06/04/2008 19:34:31
#332 BE

Explain, please.....Ignore answer........Repeat question until you realise Im a .............. Repeat...........Ignore...........
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G...,

Scotland 06/04/2008 19:42:33
A fairly dire performance again today from rangers...Only heartened by the never say die spirit that we seem to have at the moment.

We seem to have taken the safety first to extremes, and our only answer is long ball to mcculloch. Would like to see naismith get a run, as we are an incredibly one-paced bunch at the moment, and thats 2 games in a row that Gomis has ran over the top of us in midfield.

sorry to be so doom and gloom, as we've gained a point, but just because celtic are sheite should be no excuse. we put some fantastic football together at ER is december and tynecastle in feb...so we are capable of doing it away from home
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:47:56
336; Aye, the Rangers are Sh1te.
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R Mc,

Elgin 06/04/2008 19:49:03
Evening All,

Ah well, 2 points dropped against the Arabs, however, on the other hand it could be viewed as a point rescued. Good game today I thought,once again the Gers came from behind and this time after going behind 3 times. It may not be pretty at times but WS tactics can be quite effective.

7 points clear, 1 game in hand. Things are looking good for lifting the title at the end of the season,hopefully it will be done before then.

I see the usual numpties are out in force,posting their usual inane drivel. Never mind, I do find it strange that they never comment about how badly Celtc are playing!!!!!! It's always someone elses fault.

1 down 3 to go

CIS trophy in the cabinet.
League title :- Pending
Scottish Cup :- Pending
EUFA Cup :- Pending

Is the European Supercup still being played????
If we win the EUFA cup, we might get a crack at that one too.

Follow Follow.
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 19:52:38
338:

CIS trophy in the cabinet.
League title :- Probable
Scottish Cup :- Possible
EUFA Cup :- No €uckin chance.
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Not Me,

...still dignified...... 06/04/2008 19:58:42
-John-

Just had a quick look and spotted.....

Oh The Rangers are Sh!te - a few times (at least you got the mane right.

Peter Lovencheat - how funny

Sotiris Stupiduglygeek or was that greek....

and latterly - EUFA Cup (isn't it UEFA) - No £uckin Chance - spot the difference?

and you also suggested you still had your dignity.....

As with last evening - That was funny.....

You really would need to have had some to keep a hold of it.

Song moment - If You Tolerate This Then your Children Will Be Next....
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 19:59:03
Sid.

Interesting that you judge RFC's prospects of winning the SPL as higher than their chances of winning the Scottish Cup.
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Not Me,

...woops... 06/04/2008 19:59:37
mane = name......
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 20:02:00
NM

"And I'll sail her up the West Coast,

Through villages and towns,

I'll be on my holidays,

They'll be doing their rounds..."
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Not Me,

...Thistle do nicely..... 06/04/2008 20:02:22
Tricky away game to Thistle to negotiate there Bemused.

Two easy away games at Sellic Park in the league....

Just kidding so no need to revisit in a few weeks time.

Song moment - Crazy Train.....
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Not Me,

.....correctamundo Bemused...... 06/04/2008 20:05:43
We welcome the Chase.....

Song moment - Take it To The Limit.......one more time
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 20:06:03
BE 341

Dont you?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 20:07:10
340

Shucks...typos and everything!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 20:08:41
Fellow bears,

This kills 2 minutes nicely...

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/BL6NZWY65JXN35K0
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Tim Malloy Resurrected,

06/04/2008 20:11:46
343

Aye BE one of these mini classics by the great Deacon Blue.

Dignity is of course important in sport. No doubt you must be embarrassed by the cheating by Rangers players recently. The sad and pathetic thing is, they don't need to do it. It's unnecessary and I think anyone watching Boyd's antics today could only be embarrassed for the guy.

Murray and Smith need to have a wee word in Boyd and Thomson's ears. Anyone can see this is quite unacceptable.

Gordon Smith has to stand up and be counted now. He pilloried the Hearts player for diving against Scotland, where is Gordon Smith's voice now. Where is his disgust and his actions.

Players who cheat have existed now for a while, but what disgusts me almost as much is the hypocrisy of the SFA and the bosses who govern football. They really have to have the courage of their convictions otherwise they shouldn't be in the jobs.

Song moment - staying on Scottish Eighties bands - Tell Me Why by Bronski Beat


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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 20:12:55
Sid.

I reckon that we're hot favourites for both.

SC, Partick at Firhill, St Johnstone and probably Aberdeen, both at Hampden, stand in our way.

SPL, 2 games at CP, where you must surely expect 2 Celtic victories, reducing the gap to only a single point, albeit with RFC having a game in hand, and then some tough games to follow.

But you reckon the SPL will be easier to win?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 20:19:16
Tim

I don't disagree. Way too much "cheating" going on, and Thomson looked silly last week.

However, to me, fundamentally no different to the central defender who goes up for a challenge with a striker, KNOWS that he's the one who's headed the ball over the bar, but still raises his arm for a goal kick anyway.

Or the winger who gets tackled, and watches the ball bounce off his shin and go over the line, but still claims the throw-in anyway.

Or a hundred other similar misdemeanours.

Of course, if part of the player's agenda is to get the opposition player carded, then that is a worse offence, but I honestly don't believe that Thomson intended that.

But, on the above criteria, there is no OF player who is innocent.
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Not Me,

......Agreeing..... 06/04/2008 20:21:42
Tim

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the cheating in football.

Of course if it were stopped the game would grind to a halt - why? Because they all do it. Every single guy on the field attempts to gain an unfair advantage at some point in a game - some it became so rife that it is just accepted now.

Such as Obstruction by a defender as the ball approaches the by line - why are there no free kicks? indeed free kicks tend to be given against the attacker for trying too hard!

I would love to stop the cheating but it just won't be possible - its gone to far to stop now.

You do allude to it - but I wonder if you felt similar embarrasment when messrs Petrov (that would be Stillian Cannaestandup for Dignified -John-)or Sutton (Backininagain again for Dignified -John-) did similar things.

Song moment - Whose Sorry Now....



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Not Me,

.....are we on the same page... 06/04/2008 20:24:10
Bemused

Agree wholeheartedly with you too.

Song moment - A Good Heart - they are difficult to find these days!!!
343

Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 20:33:51
BE 350

I reckon Michelle McManus is havin a gargle as we speak.
344

BEMUSED EXILE,

06/04/2008 20:36:57
A good Celtic woman, Sid.

Perhaps the "heavyweight" presence in midfield that WGS is lacking?
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Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 20:38:36
This consensus re the horrors of cheating is good, guys, but I think Boyd's antics this afternoon are worthy of further scrutiny.

Yep, guys falling easily after tackles, claiming goal kicks when they KNOW it's a corner etc etc, but in Boyds case, he

--- threw himself to the ground, when there had been no tackle, no contact.

--- rose incredulously staring at the Asst Ref when he realised his cheating was not to be rewarded on this occasion.

--- Why wasnt he booked?

--- Recalling the nations disgust at Mikolunas - what action will SFA take against Boyd Cheat?
346

Sensible Sid,

06/04/2008 20:39:37
355: LOL!
347

G...,

Scotland 06/04/2008 20:47:44
Its also quite unsporting of boyd to continually hide behind lee wilkie, whilst united players are attempting to pass back to the goalie!
348

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 22:00:13
Hello hello folks.

Another drab end of season SPL game.
Wish we got exciting stuff like the EPL serves up.
349

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 22:02:07
So is the topic today your cheats are worse than our cheats?
Or is it just generally everything I think is right and everything you think is wrong?
350

Ajax MacKindling,

06/04/2008 22:03:20
I think I fell asleep towards the end, I dreamed Rangers had 5 strikers on.

 

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