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Published Date: 08 November 2009
IN THE closing seconds of the Edinburgh derby, Tynecastle rose as one in the pursuit of a penalty. It was some sight. Home fans screeching and roaring and banging hoardings at the sight of Jamie Mole going down in the box after a supposed coming-together with Graham Stack, the Hibs goalkeeper, followed by wholesale angst and anger when referee Steve Conroy failed to give them what they wanted. Conroy was right. No penalty.
No excitement either, not really. Save for a few hairy moments in the second half, featuring a quite brilliant save from Janos Balogh in the Hearts goal, this was about as tame as this fixture gets.

Hearts were physical and functional, but not much more than that. They gave every ounce of their energy and had players all over the park who worked like troopers, closing down the space, harrying Hibs, making it a battle, an ugly war of attrition. Michael Stewart led them well and made a point to the fans who booed him off the Tynecastle pitch last time out. He was all over the place, demanding things from his team-mates and driving them on.

You felt a little sorry for Stewart. And for Csaba Laszlo. They're trying to create something here without the services of a single player who can put the ball in the opposition net with any kind of regularity. Their leading scorer in the SPL has two goals. Enough said.

They are disastrously devoid of cutting edge, not just a goal-scorer but a creative central midfielder also. Their great tactic was to lump it long and high into the Hibs box and hope for a break. The fact that Chris Hogg and Ian Murray were there to nut away pretty much everything that dropped in on top of them meant that Hearts could have played on for hours without getting a goal.

This was the third SPL game in a row where they have failed to score, where they have enjoyed chunks of possession and have hardly even looked like scoring, despite winning almost a dozen corners.

Hibs were a disappointment also, albeit with mitigating circumstances. Derek Riordan has been suffering with a twisted ankle – rumour has it he tripped over his pet dog – and only came on as substitute in the second half and there was no sign at all of Merouane Zemmama, who was absent with a dodgy groin. Colin Nish played up front on his own with Anthony Stokes wide on the left. The pair of them had miserable afternoons. Nish, especially. He had Jose Goncalves and Ismael Bouzid breathing down his neck all day and he hardly won a ball.

A point was about as much as John Hughes' team deserved and the manager admitted as much in the aftermath. He spent most of his day berating his players for giving possession away needlessly. Or as he put it in one outburst on the touchline: "Pass the f***ing ball!"

Hibs were not themselves yesterday, but then this was not your regular Edinburgh derby. Normally they are full of incident but the first half here passed by in a dreary blur. Hearts had plenty of huff and puff but no end product. Hibs didn't even have the huff and puff. They had good defenders and that was it.

A few opportunities went Hearts' way, from Stewart and Ian Black, from Andrew Driver and Arvydas Novikovas, the 18-year-old making his first start at Tynecastle, but none of them caused undue worry to Stack. Same old, same old for Laszlo. Another déjà vu day for the Hearts manager.

It was only when Riordan made his belated arrival that Hibs began to create anything. Certainly, his appearance increased the temperature, his every stride being booed by a home support who'd have the Hibs winger pretty high on any "people we love to hate list" somewhere above Pol Pot and possibly a fraction behind Osama Bin Laden.

Riordan started to have an influence soon enough, but before he did there was an outrageous passage of play that briefly elevated this game above the mundane.

It was down to David Wotherspoon in the first instance and Balogh in the second. Wotherspoon tore forward from his right-back channel midway through the second half and was allowed to make inroads into the Hearts half. Just as everybody was wondering what pass he was going to pick, he let fly with a thunderous drive that took a deflection off Nish's head on its way to goal. The goalkeeper flung himself away to his left and managed to tip it on to the post, a save that will take some beating when the awards are doled out at the end of the season.

Waking slowly from their slumber, Hibs attacked again soon after, Lewis Stevenson playing it into Riordan who forced another stop from Balogh, this time low at his right-hand post. John Rankin then had a shot that went over from a decent position and Riordan had an effort gathered at the second attempt by Balogh. Hibs were on top now. Still unconvincing, but the team most likely to score. There was probably justice in them drawing a blank for Hearts did not deserve to lose it. Or put another way, neither team deserved to win it.

Hughes was philosophical about it all afterwards. Not a bad point when your team is playing poorly was the gist. As for Laszlo? The man is in pain. If he was an animal you'd be loading the revolver now to bring a speedy end to his suffering.

MAN OF THE MATCH

Chris Hogg was a rock in the heart of the Hibs defence and gobbled up most of those high balls that Hearts sent into the visitors' penalty area.

QUICK FACT

This was Liam Miller's fourth different derby match, following on from his appearances in the Old Firm match, the Manchester derby and the other biggie in the north of England, Sunderland versus Newcastle.

TALKING POINT

Not many, apart perhaps from the real reason for Derek Riordan's injured foot. Riordan denied that it was the dog's fault. But sources close to the mutt suggest otherwise.


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1

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 00:05:38
"Not many, apart perhaps from the real reason for Derek Riordan's injured foot. Riordan denied that it was the dog's fault. But sources close to the mutt suggest otherwise."

Quality. Can anyone say what actually happened?
2

Wait a minute,

Town 08/11/2009 00:40:42
What a terribly poor report. Simply awful.
3

Dood,

08/11/2009 00:45:42
#1 Abe

Rumour has it that Derek was taking the dug down to Greggs for a steak bake. They arrived only to find that Christian Nade had arrived first. With Greggs duly emptied the dug had to go hungry and therefore took a good nibble at Derek. These things happen.....

#2

In fairness, it probably wasn't a great game for a journalist to summarise. Personally, I think he did rather well getting as much as he did into the article given how little happened in the game.

All in, a point isn't particularly damaging to Hibs.

Now then, Chris Hogg - Man of the Match. Over to you Private Pike.......
4

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 00:53:49
#2

why? terribly and simply, why?

Dood

Us porcophiles knew he'd come right. What d'you reckon, Pike?
5

Nelson Graham,

N.J. USA 08/11/2009 01:02:56
Saw game on internet. Hearts dominated first half and 60% of 2nd half, yet Hibs were more dangerous in the second half and the few times they penetrated in the first half. Hearts were not as good with the ball without Bruno. It shows how much he is missed(this is the first time I have seen them this year). There is no core with this team. It's a bunch of players that are (1) Going to leave in January (2) Overpaid and not working to their potential (3) Young players without experience and poor salaries and bitter and (4) An owner with a Russian dictatorial mindset that doesn't see the world objectively and will eventually bring this club to ruin. Hearts are in big trouble. It has nothing to do with Hibs success and having childish discussions with their supporters. One has to look within to change. Sorry but I feel Hearts are doomed. How would you like to be an American born suppoter since '78(I don't know any others) and cry his heart out with each game and no other Hearts fans to lean on.
Still....Go Hearts!!!!
6

Dood,

08/11/2009 01:18:37
I'm going to look out my "Chris Hogg - Hibernian Supporters Association Player of the Season 2006/2007" T-shirt again.

Two good Hoggy performances in a row. The halcyon days are returning. A Hogglover appreciation night is coming to a venue near you.

Aw c'mon Pike. At least raise a wry smile.
7

Dood,

08/11/2009 01:20:56
#5

Probably a fair summary.

Sadly, from across The Pond, you are able to see the problems at your club whilst a significant element of your support closer to home cannot or will not.
8

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 01:23:58
7 Dood, I believe its the latter...........
9

Cammy,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 01:41:05
Pitiful stuff from both sides.

Just as well that Hearts are so toothless up front, as we were very poor today. It was a derby played without any real passion and even less skill on show.

The only good aspect was that full respect was given to our brave fallen servicemen.

10

TOTT,

08/11/2009 01:45:38
Hearts were as the better side but never looked like beating the worst side to visit Tynecastle this season.
11

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 01:50:50
TOOT

eleven points says different.
12

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 01:51:29
terrible game, no mistake
13

Dood,

08/11/2009 02:10:21
#8 HH

Aye, When VR came arrived in true X Factor style three years ago, those silly Russian hats weren't the only things he punted to the sheep. A roaring trade in blindfolds was done too.

Has anyone seen KiwiDoug?
14

Dood,

08/11/2009 02:16:29
#10 TOTT

Can I just clarify please.

The worst side to visit Tynecastle this season, or;

The worst side to play at Tynecastle this season.

Seriously, a nasty wee sideways dig there TOTT. Hibs were poor yesterday, I appreciate that. As do most of us. But how good were Hearts? The home team? In a derby? A fixture which means so much to the marooners?

Because, from what I saw, Graham Stack spent much of the 90 minutes queueing for a pie. Granted, he'd have got one quicker but for Christian Nade being in front of him.

Seriously though, teams have off days. Hibs had theirs today and were still solid.

Time, methinks, for the Yams to start having a serious look at what's going wrong. Or alternatively you could just aim sly digs at your rivals. Whatever tickles your fancy I suppose.
15

Dood,

08/11/2009 02:18:05
PS - amazingly, we're over two hours, YES - TWO HOURS, into this thread and still no mention of 1902.

Well done to all concerned.
16

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 02:23:02
14 Dood, That was such a poor comment that I honestly doubt it was the real TOTT.
17

Dood,

08/11/2009 02:23:04
#9 Cammy

Great point about the servicemen.

The nice thing is that we've not had any mention about this, primarily because they were shown the respect they deserve for a change. No controversy, just ordinary people paying respects.

Brilliant also to see current serving soldiers being recognised on the park, from both sides. Well done to the HOMFC for organising this.
18

Dood,

08/11/2009 02:24:26
#16

Almost agree HH. It wasn't as much a ramble as usual was it?

Could it be that he's on his knees? Is he ready to turn his back and return to his first love? Has he had enough?
19

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 02:25:01
TOOT! was prediciting a 2-1 victory for the Team in Brown so one can understand why he's a wee bit naffed off.

yes, hearts to score 2 goals in a single game.

i never said it made any sense.

20

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 02:32:02
18 Dood, I'll happily stump for a new Hibs scarf for him as well as pay for a new "Hibee in Training' badge that he can sport proudly on his lapel.......
21

Dood,

Chairman of the Hogglover Appreciation Society. T 08/11/2009 02:33:18
#19 Abe

Madness. Absoloute Madness.

2 goals? From a team which has failed to score in 3 consecutive games? 2 goals? Whilst the Hearts lone striker was fighting the Hibs keeper in the concourse of the Wheatfield Stand pie kiosk for a (very poor) mutton pie?

Oh dear. This would never have happened under Chris Robinson.

BRING BACK CHRIS ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
22

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 02:36:52
If it got any more insane PP would be predicting Hogg to be MOTM.........
23

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 02:36:56
Dood

c'mon now, that's not fair.


The pies in the Wheatfield are pretty good.
24

Dood,

Chairman of the Hogglover Appreciation Society 08/11/2009 02:38:54
#20 HH

Yes, but we'll have to train him in the art of NOT booing your own players.

Very difficult to convert from Moron, sorry maroon, to green these days. Removing chips from shoulders, refraining from adopting a self superiority complex and, finally, beLIEving that everyones against you is a hard set of beliefs to shift.

Oh dearie me.
25

Dood,

Chairman of the Hogglover Appreciation Society 08/11/2009 02:40:26
Abe

Yes, in fairness, that would explain the "full" figures of certain Hearts players.

And their punters.
26

Edward Rooney,

08/11/2009 02:41:05
PORCOPHILE!
27

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 02:56:17
As an aside, it was a good day for the Scots at Burnley..........
28

TOTT,

08/11/2009 03:03:22
Dood etc... i am telling it the way it was.....based on todays performance Hibs are the worst team to visit Tynecastle this season.

Although Hearts never looked like scoring they were the better side.
29

Private Pike,

08/11/2009 03:44:16
OK. I understand that when there's so much dross on display the poorer players are able to hide and that's certainly what happened here. Stewart was head and shoulders above any other Hearts player. Always pushing and challenging and trying to make things happen.

Hibs had too many players who are unable to pass to ball to another player in green. If Hogg headered the ball, at any point to a teammate then I missed it and I've just watched the game again. I had forgotten how poor Rankin is. He tried as hard as he usually does but he just can't cut it. Reacts rather than anticipates, tackles without putting his foot in. Five yard passes to Hearts players.

Benji, this was not his game, again. He's going through a bad spell just now and while I would start him I would be ready to try, maybe Galbraith, if it wasn't working.

For all the predictable lack of pressure on the right back position we should have played McCormack and brought Wotherspoon into the right midfield where he is most confident, inventive and effective.
Even with our injuries, we had the players to be a lot better than Hearts but instead we made them look better than us. Not good, but better than us.

We did not need Hughes to demonstrate again that when it comes to the simple things in team selection he prefers the complicated route.

We have a right back but we'll move a good midfielder into that position. We have a target man but we'll not play anyone alongside him. We have a mobile centre forward but we'll play him out right. We have an effective midfield partnership in Miller and McBride but we'll miss them out and hoof the ball to our lone target man.

It all could have worked but it didn't.
Predictably.
Just as it has never worked.
Ever.
Since 1875.
30

neil1986,

New Zealand 08/11/2009 03:47:44
Only caught the first half and a bit of the 2nd before my internet shut off but was very disappointing stuff. To be fair we started without the spine of our team (Bamba, Zemmama, Riordan) but without Zemmama we really look pedestrian in midfield and thats been a big worry for me all season.

I also think Yogi needs to reasses the 4-3-3 (or at least realise that it can only be effective in some games) as it doesnt seem to be helping the forwards very much as they get poor service at times and allows the midfield to be overun. I would really like to see Wotherspoon and Galbraith get a shot in midfield alongside Zemmama and Miller as I think we need to add a bit of width to the team and Yogi needs to decide on 2 forwards IMO and give them a chance to play together and form an understanding as they still look like strangers sometimes and despite all the talent up front, we havent really been scoring a huge number of goals.

Finally, Although the defence looked solid I still think that area (especially RB) has to be strenghened in January. I had high hopes for McCann but looks like he hasnt impressed Yogi much. Barr would do nicely.
31

Private Pike,

08/11/2009 03:50:20
TOTT

You've got it wrong again but, don't worry, I'll tell you how it is.

Hibs may or may not have provided the worst display this season at Tynecastle (Unlikely) but they are the best team to visit that stadium this season.
32

neil1986,

08/11/2009 03:52:10
Just read my post again and realised how horribly negative it sounded. Yogi has done a great job since he arrived and I think that if he's given funds in January for a player or 2 we could be even better next year. Things are really looking up and if he can keep the core of this side together and build around the likes of Murray, Bamba, Miller, Zemmama, Riordan and Stokes we'll have a cracking team.
33

Private Pike,

08/11/2009 03:52:49
#30 We need Barr in the January window so that he can be kept out of the team by Hogg.
34

Jim Townsend,

Old Main Stand 08/11/2009 07:00:33
#31 I can put you right with the exception of possibly Hamilton, Hibs ARE the worst team to visit Tynecatle so far. Your striker truly is Colin Nish as the cockneys might say
35

Clackhibee,

heart rules the head 08/11/2009 07:38:45
I can't imagine many teams have played as poorly as Hibs did at Tynie yesterday so it's probably fair comment. However, it only emphasises how poor the Jambos are when you consider Balogh had more saves to make than Stack. I expect the next Derby match will witness the poorest team to visit ER.
36

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 08:00:49
Well what happened we were told the mighty Hibs team were coming to do us.They we out thought out fought them for all but 10 or 15mins in the second half.
Hearts played well to contain such wonderful footballing side Im so proud of our boys who managed to make them look so very poor.This reporter is disapointed because Hearts didnt stand aside and admire his darlings,what a prat he is.
The only doing was done Mr Im hard but Im fair Murray whos stamp on Ian Black in the second half as Black was lying on the ground was very sneaky.The ref who had a very good game missed it first time round so I hope the SPL have a look and do him.
So everybody but Hearts fan were let down because only one team turned up?Well It takes two side to be up for a Derby match and if thats the best Hibs can manage they are not exactly the famous five.
Well done Hearts we know we are struggling to score goals just now but were up for it and left nothing in the dressing room which all we asked for before the game.
JT for life.PS. Well done both sets of supporter for the silence before the game.
37

Gordon Smiths 364,

Tunisia 08/11/2009 08:34:50
#34

You may be right about Nish but he is light years in front of the goal scoring machine that is Nade!

And if Hibs are the worst team to visit tinny this season (apart from Hamilton) then just what does that say about your rabble of cloggers when,,,,,

A/ You failed to beat us in your own back yard.

B/ We are 11 points in front of you.

#36

"Well what happened we were told the mighty Hibs team were coming to do us"

If memory serves me correctly, 99% of Hibs posters here where predicting a draw or a defeat (I predicted a 2-1 Hibs). And I thought your manky mob where going to do us as predicted by 99% of your support.

Selective memory and imagination from you I think.
38

BRUHibs,

08/11/2009 09:14:14
Hibs 2 wins last season and 2 draws SPL. More saves by Balough yesterday and Hibs poorest game of the season. Says it all really. Hibs need a couple of more players and they will be serious challengers this season IF they remain focused.
39

Kimura,

Right Here 08/11/2009 09:16:57
I went along to Tynecastle yesterday expecting two things and got NONE of them.
I expected to see this super fast, super flowing, free goalscoring Hibs that all the posters on here blow about week after week.
I also expected that Green Machine to cuff us.
OF COURSE! Hibs had an off day, that's it.
OR maybe, Hibs, just ain't that good.
They've had a great first quarter, but should they play like they did yesterday from now on in, they will tumble down the league.
Hearts on the other hand will not be climbing this league, until someone sprinkles fairy dust on our front players.
As for man of the match...Jose Goncalves would have my vote, with Riordan the best player in green.
40

makesmehappy,

08/11/2009 09:28:12
Got to love all the expats with nothing better to do commenting with such certainty about the strengths of two teams they actually only see play, what, four times a year at the most! #5 in particular has come to the conclusion that Hearts are in big trouble based on this one match. Regarding call-offs, much has been made of Hibs absentees, but Hearts were without Suso, Elliot, Kingston and Zauliskis - all first-team picks when fit.

First time I've see Hibs and they were very poor. Dropping Craig Thomson was a major mistake by Shabba - we needed him at the free-kicks and corners as our deliveries were woeful at times. The shots and corner stats show that Hearts largely dominated the game and did get into dangerous areas so not a very good match report for the expats to rely on for their info.
41

Woody,

London 08/11/2009 09:30:41
Kimura, if you were expecting to see Hibs play brilliantly you don't have much faith in form.

Hibs beat Killie 1-0 and only beat 9 man Aberdeen in the dying minutes recently. Neither performance was fast, free flowing football.

Meanwhile Hearts don't give many goals away. The Hearts performance at Celtic showed how stuffy Hearts can be.

Hibs will play well sometimes but without Zemmama lack the creativity required at times. We also need to be playing against teams who allow space as Rangers did at Ibrox - that was a much more open game because of the way Rangers play.

All in all a point is okay for Hibs I think.

Hearts should definitely be a top 6 team but until they find a goalscorer look like being low scoring draw specialists.
42

Reasoned Debate,

08/11/2009 09:43:42
Message for Private Pike.
Hogg Man of the Match for the second week in a row !!
Nuff said !
43

Whats the script?,

Satruns New Ring 08/11/2009 09:53:50
Awful game played by two awful sides. Ray Stubbs looked as if he was trying to not to laugh back in the studio.
Baloghs save was straight out the Henry Smith school of wonder saves.
Hate to say it but Riordan looked very dangerous when he came on and if he had managed 90mins Hibs could have pinched it.
Dont understand why Lazlo didnt play Glen from start but he did look a bit chubby - never mind strikers Hearts need a decent dietician.
44

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 10:40:21
Yes Hibs were poor, VERY poor but we still couldn't beat them and they almost won it at end.

1 point above St Johnstone, Hamilton and Kilmarnock - and below St Mirren.

Where are the kids that got all the publicity. The kids Alex Ferguson were told he would never win with are getting to retirement age now and not many of them without a suitcase of winners medals.

45

It's me!,

08/11/2009 10:51:58
Jose Goncalves - head and shoulders above all others on the park followed by Riordan for the brief period he played.
46

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08/11/2009 11:17:43
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47

Adso,

08/11/2009 11:22:39
Not so bad a match as the report suggests - why they sent the twisted Tom English to do the match I'm not sure. Perhaps the SoS is determined to completely alienate their Hearts readership by sending this cretin for the derby.

My take on the game: Clearly Hearts were a wee bit nervous of getting beat by Hibs (who are deservedly ahead of us this season) and the nerves, fortunately for Hearts, manifested themselves as effort. This meant that Hearts kept Hibs on the backfoot for most of the match. Hibs seemed a bit nervous as this was a match they knew they should win given they have their best team in years playing against a very poor Hearts side. Unfortunately for Hibs, these nerves made them play the ball back to front (hoofball is it called?) for most of the match, bypassing the midfield entirely until the last 15 mins or so. These long balls to Nish were food and drink to Goncalves and Bouzid.

For all the territorial possession Hearts couldn't really make a clear chance against a pretty resolute Hibs defence. When Hibs brought on Riordan it was quite apparent how much better than the rest of the Hibs (and Hearts) players he is - very dangerous and an unerring ability to hit the target from almost anywhere.

I've been to dozens of derbies and this was not close to being one of the worst I've seen. I thought the atmosphere was good(quite a while since so many in green have made the trip to Tynie). The football was fast and committed as expected but their were bits and pieces of skill all over the pitch. As a Jambo, disappointed we couldn't score and win (again) but also happy that we nullified Hibs so easily......from my seat 100 yards away it was a stonewall pen :-)
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Irish National Lenny Army,

08/11/2009 11:30:48
A poor match report.

I was very impressed with Hibs passing game in the last half hour and I thought it was decent game in the last 30mins.

I enjoyed it and have seen far worse OF games and far worse games at Tynecastle.

All this game needed was a goal. Hearts should had a pen at the end and Hibs were very unlucky with the one of the post. (both great bits of action)

Impressed with Wotherspoon, Miller, McBride, Stokes and Riordan. On the Hearts side - Wallace again showed up well and Driver was busy.

Good result for Hibs. Picking up points at Tynecastle and Ibrox is key if you are going to mount a challenge.
49

Dood,

08/11/2009 12:01:08
Get posting on the Tom English thread now!

This may be a very rare chance to take out an Old Firm thread!

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TOTT,

08/11/2009 12:21:41
#31 pike....you are not in a position to comment re worst team I am...Hibs (suprisingly enough opinion based on each teams 'performance'!)were the worst team to visit Tynecastle this season.

BTW I have tended to agree re Hogg being poor but played well yesterday.

Hearts were solid at the back,dominant in midfield and awful up front. Hibs showed a distinct lack of ambition by coming to Tynecastle for a point...... no doubt Riordans intro gave them a chance of stealing the points as benji & Stokes were as annonymous as the Hearts strikers.
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08/11/2009 12:23:57
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TOTT,

08/11/2009 12:49:41
#51 not sure what you mean.....had a look.... no debate an element of Rangers fans are a disgrace....as for the thread predictably degenerating into a Catholic/ Protestant slanging match .....an even bigger embarresment to Scotland.
53

Sedov,

08/11/2009 13:09:22
My prediction on 0-0 turned out to be correct.

Hearts probably have the best defence in the SLP

but probably have the worst attack.

Hibs were average - an average team among a poor lot.

Scottish fitba is in crisis
54

Iain Mac,

08/11/2009 13:16:27
Hibs' anti-football got them nowhere. I think their position in the league flatters them. If Hearts had even a half-decent striker, Hibs would've been cuffed.

The report is right - Hearts could've played for hours and got nothing. So why is Csaba still playing one up front, at home?! And why is Vlad not buying a striker?
55

Craigy Hibby,

08/11/2009 13:18:26
hibs were poor but still looked the team most likely to score.

no heard a peep re michael stewarts handball, as for the claim at the end never a penalty.

TOTT - take your maroon glasses off, how many saves did stack have to make??
56

John Dauntless,

Surry 08/11/2009 13:33:34
Has to be considered 2 points dropped if you're a Hibs fan. Draw at Swinecastle ordinarily a good result, but given how woeful Hearts are at present, even without Zouma etc, Hibs had the players to win this. Yogi honest in his post-match analysis, but why Stokes on the left wing (1st half) or on the right (after Deek on); why Nish stranded up front; why Benji playing at all in his current form; why not Wotherspoon in midfield?; maybe Byrne up front? etc etc
57

TOTT,

08/11/2009 13:47:09
#55 no maroon glasses.....leave you to work out the corelation between ' awfull up front' and Stack having very little to do....however FACTS are that Hearts dominated possesion,had 12 corners,21 shots on goal(12 on target).
58

Bleeding Heart,

08/11/2009 14:00:43
#56 - "Has to be considered 2 points dropped if you're a Hibs fan".

You obviously weren't at the game, then...
59

GMCD,

08/11/2009 14:51:24
Somuch for classy HIbs - stymied by a frankly pisspoor Hearts team - how many attempts before they look like scoring???
Whihc goalie had to save his team??
60

Media for one,

08/11/2009 16:34:07
Hearts will be gutted they are not used to Hibs competing with them.
Hibs need to focus on a top 6 position - They owe the fans that.
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GRMpundit,

08/11/2009 16:55:41
Well, i had this one predicted as a 1-1 draw so i wasnt surprised at the result.

Hearts havent been playing well this season but they were always going to raise their game in the derby.
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morris,

edinburgh 08/11/2009 17:52:52
The form book rarely is a guide to derby matches and the result should not surprise anybody I suppose.
Definitely a better showing by Hearts who looked at long last like a team who can and will climb to nearer the mid table/top six soon.
Like many Hearts fans I think the time to pull the plug on Christian Nade has long past and young Glen deserves a run to see how far he has progressed. Next season I think he will challenge anyway so why not start him in a regular slot now.
63

Vlads Insolvency Agent,

Suburbia 08/11/2009 19:27:46
My biggest dissapointment yesterday was Ian murray failing to maim that wee rat black with his stamp.
64

TOTT,

08/11/2009 19:37:14
#63 Don't be too hard on the dirty barsteward murray he gave it his best shot!
65

THE ANERLEY HIBBY,

08/11/2009 19:44:49
Was really looking forward to this game but as had been said previously it was pretty dire!
Both teams were pretty awful but as the Jambo's can't score for toffee this really was a missed opportunity by the Hibees even though we were missing 3 of our best players.

What was frustrating was that Hibs front 3 couldn't control the ball or pass it simply to another man. I'd give Benji 1 out of 10, Stokes 3 out of 10 & Nish 2 out of 10. Granted Stokes should have been up front with Nish with Wotherspoon moved into midfield but that never happened so we never really got going.

IOM too many of our strikers don't see the bigger picture and are guilty of shooting on site or from ridiculous distances that end up as wasted chances.

Even Riordan today with a couple of minutes left had a shot from what have been 35yrds rather than sticking it into the box??? eh?

On the upside Murray, Hogg, Wotherspoon & Miller were very good.

Given the Tic's result today I suppose a point is ok.

Finally if we look at our next 4 fixtures 11 points is the least we should be looking for.
66

I.J,

The Diggers 08/11/2009 21:56:55
It was a clear penalty. Nice to see English toeing the hibernianman's party line though. One team in it, one team deserved to win, and it wasn't the silent away fan's mob.

Lets be honest though - no decent human being would support a rapist and a paedophile in the same team, would they?
67

Highland Hibby,

Inverness 08/11/2009 22:14:39
#66 "Lets be honest though - no decent human being would support a rapist and a paedophile in the same team, would they?"

Rix I know, who was your other one?
68

Hobo Harry,

08/11/2009 22:51:10
66 I.J, On the subject of decent human beings, a decent person would be ashamed to have written that.
69

Der Kaiser,

08/11/2009 23:18:19
#63 and #66
If you've got nothing interesting to say....well you know the rest.
So....back to football....

I am in no way Nade's biggest fan BUT.....he has shown some improvement in the games against Celtic and Hibs. What should definitely be taken into consideration is the formation Hearts have used with him for a long time now. He is played as a lone striker and he simply isn't up to that task. To play that role IMO you need to be real quality and have a bit of everything. Power, Pace, Trickery etc.
He's had a lot of high balls in games pumped up to him in so many games and are Hearts fans really expecting him to bring that down, turn and then take on a couple of centre halfs on his own? He's a target man and he needs someone along side him. Csaba should stick Glen alongside him for a few games and see if a partnership can develop while we sit and wait on a striker being bought (could be a long sit down mind).
So many times in so many games we've had Driver or someone out right breaking down the wing and slinging in a cross into a box that contains Nade and about 3 or 4 Defenders. He's given an impossible task and comes off looking really poor.
Having said that....on the odd occassions the ball has reached him he's done himself no favours and simply failed to put it in the net.

The striker problem can't be solved until January so we have to do the best with what we got and I think it's time we just went 4-4-2 and see if Nade and Glen could do ok together. We can't play any worse....can we?
70

Private Pike,

08/11/2009 23:20:26
Highland Hibby

Behave yourself. Rix was neither a Rapist or a paedophile.

IJ from the Diggers on the other hand???

I think he probably got quite excited typing that comment.
71

Der Kaiser,

08/11/2009 23:24:45
Also....watched the highlights and to me Mole seems to make contact with the ball and then Hogg catches Mole. It's soft but if we follow the letter of the law then....it is a penalty.

Not that it matters one iota now.

Que sera, sera
72

Highland Hibby,

Inverness 08/11/2009 23:30:53
#PP I hate to argue with a fellow Hibby, but I'm certain about Rix. (note that I don't argue about IJ!)

#71 DK I read that Mole said it wasn't a penalty. Given the way players claim for anything these days I would say that's solid proof it wasn't.
73

hibsinoz,

Perth OZ 08/11/2009 23:34:55
#40.the usual "EX PATS" garbage. ever heard of the internet mate.i see every game every week on the net and before that had tapes or dvd's sent to me every week for years and also return to Edin once a year and take in around 4\5 games home or away.Hibs were rubbish yesterday i agree but i'd take a point away at swinecastle anytime.
74

Der Kaiser,

08/11/2009 23:59:27
#72
Mole said that it wasn't? Fair do's then. Bit of controversy would have been nice though...particularly if it had let us steal the three points.
75

Vlads Insolvency Agent,

Vlads Vault 09/11/2009 00:44:42
66 I.J, You must be related to Birmingham jambo mind o him thats the yam who;s misses ran away wi a rug muncher ya walloper !!!!

Btw Rix has fruit gums dont tell mum !!
76

The new waspy,

09/11/2009 17:46:45
Told you Fri it would be boring 0-0 draw and what did I do? precict a 1-0 on the predictor?????? Old age and McEwans Export is starting to catch up with me.
Ochone ochone

 

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