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Hearts 0 - 0 Falkirk: Dogged Bairns keep pack at bay



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Published Date: 23 March 2008
POSSESSION only matters if you can do something with it. Hearts saw a lot of the ball in this match but could not translate it into scoring opportunities, let alone goals.
Falkirk, on the other hand, are currently in possession of the final top-six berth and made sure they held on toit with a resolute if somewhat perfunctory performance.

As the second half kicked off, the stadium announcer, in an attempt to rally the crowd, and possibly even the Hearts players, reminded them that the stakes were huge for the club and asked "who wants it most?" If desires translate into action, then the answer would appear to be the visitors. Because while this match ended in stalemate, in the bigger context it remains advantage Falkirk.

The split is now just two games away for these two sides and with the other contenders, Aberdeen, also drawing, it was a good day's work from John Hughes' side. Earning their fifth clean sheet from the past six matches, their new stoic approach made it impossible for a Hearts side blunted by a lack of real striking prowess to breakthrough.

Having impressed in the past with their flair and determination to play football on the deck, and treating fans to some slick passing, Falkirk have switched styles slightly now that the top-six prize is in sight. Gone is the pure attack mindset and more risky open play, replaced by a more organised and defensive philosophy. It may not be as pretty but it has earned them the chance to achieve their season's aim of seeing out the final five games of the term amongst the country's footballing hierarchy.

Tynecastle is a ground where they were destroyed 4-2 earlier in the season – the scoreline only given a degree of respectability due to two late goals – but from early in this match it was obvious a repeat was not on the cards.

"It was imperative that we came here and got something. We were organised and kept our shape, we were disciplined and resolute. I picked a team who could stand up to them and I think we did that," said Hughes. "We were then able to hit them on the counter-attack, which we did a few times."

Whether it was the perceived do or die nature of this one which got to the guys or not, there was plenty of urgency but very little fluency.

The game did swing from end to end but that was down to very little cohesive play. It was all breaking balls and clunking passages of play which made ground but very little real headway. In a game crying out for some composure, neither side possessed a player who could really dictate the tempo for any period of time and as a result the ball bounded about, taking a battering but causing neither keeper much concern.

Young Scott Arfield again impressed in the Falkirk midfield, while Jack Ross and Darren Barr, in particular, were key at the back.

Both sides knew that the onus was on Hearts and, booed off at the end, the truth is they didn't do enough. Caretaker manager Stephen Frail admitted that his side had "huffed and puffed" without much consequence. Calum Elliot had a chance in the 10th minute but Barr got back to block in the box.

Five minutes later Saulius Mikoliunas broke through, only to be foiled by the out-rushing Falkirk keeper, Robert Olejnik. There was controversy in the incident, though, as the keeper was out of his area and it appeared to be his arm that halted the ball but as the crowd appealed, referee Charlie Richmond waved play on. Apparently he agreed with Hughes' opinion that it was the keeper's chest.

Laryea Kingston was back in the Hearts team and, with few out-and-out strikers at his disposal, Frail started him just ahead of the midfield, with Elliot the lone targetman.

It was hoped that Lithuanian wingers Deividas Cesnauskis and Mikoliunas would get up and offer some assistance but the former had to be replaced after just 15 minutes. Audrius Ksanivicius came on, forcing a formation reshuffle which saw Kingston pushed back into the midfield four. There he was less effective and well hustled by Tom Scobie and Carl Finnigan.

Afterwards Frail was asked if last month's transfer of Andrius Velicka would ultimately cost his side a place in the top six, but he claimed that such was the paucity of goalscoring chances carved out in the match, that even the club's top scorer would have struggled to conjure up anything to turn the draw into a win.

And it could have been worse. As time ebbed away, Falkirk's veteran playmaker Russell Latapy looked to be preparing to come on but never entered the fray.

It may yet come back to haunt them, with a trip away to Aberdeen their final fixture before the split, but rather than go gung-ho in search of the win, Hughes was content to keep the chasing pack at bay for another week at least. For Hearts, it was yet another afternoon of frustration.


MAN OF THE MATCH: Darren Barr. Part of a Falkirk defence which was well-drilled and easily contained Hearts.

ASIDE: The last two games between the sides had gone with home advantage.





The full article contains 898 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 01:25:07
First comment to stop the serial Hearts haters being first.
2

Hans Eskillson,

Glasgow 23/03/2008 03:08:30
I can't understand how anyone can hate the gunts - they are comedy gold after all.

I'm sure Vlad'll fix it in the summer, and the Champions League dream will indeed become a reality within 5 years.
3

hibbie,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 04:27:12
Christ you are like the English, ooooooh everybody hates us but in Hearts case it is true.
4

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

23/03/2008 05:18:44
#3 Really? What's it like following two teams?

Anyhow, I googled "hearts new stand development" for some info and the TOP link is a Hibs.net discussion - no kidding. One guy on the thread had actually gone to the trouble of finding out the average size of travel lodge hotel rooms in Edinburgh to compare them to the ones proposed in the planning application, just so he could come up with some theory that the rooms would be too small. Another had gone to the council website to read the plans. Another owned up to regularly checking the Hearts website.

Did someone say obsession? Chips on both shoulders?

And there were many, many such threads on Hibs.net. As I said, it must be hard work following two teams.
5

Jacobite,

Invergordon 23/03/2008 06:48:52


NO DECENT PLAYERS

NO DECENT MANAGER

NO FRIGGIN IDEA

THE WORST PERFORMANCE EVER

SCREPIS ON IN THE LAST MINUTE

FRAIL YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE A MANAGER, YOU ARE CRAP

YOU NEED TO MOTIVATE THE PLAYERS AND YOU CANT

NEILSON PLEASE HANG UP YOU BOOTS AS YOU ARE GETTING WORSE EVERY WEEK

6

Robert Bonaly,

East Lothian 23/03/2008 07:35:14
Totally agree with No5 - is was so bad I am struggling to come up with words to describe it in all honesty. This constant "bigging up" Elliot is unbelieveable - lets accept he is clueless and move on. Mind you there were a few of them on the pitch today including Neilso,Stewart, Audrey, Miko (spineless coward) and Mole when he came on. The only 3 players on the pitch yesterday I would describe as quality are Banks, Kingston and Ruben - I feel sorry for them having to play with these other imposters. In Kingston's case, imagine playing with Michael Essien one match and Elliot/Mole in the next - jeez what a come down that must be for him. We also have a Manager who has no idea whatsoever what he is doing, probably because he is not doing it !!! Yet we still have these clowns who are rushing into buying season tickets now - they really do need to have a hard look at themselves if they really think they are helping the situation. Don't you see Vlad and his merry men are talking the absolute cr@p and abusing your love of the club, in the same way as I love it too. Enough is enough so let's send him a very strong message we are not paying what he wants to watch trash like we saw yesterday. I am actually glad we will not make the Top 6 now, as it would be embarrassing to be involved with this set of muppets wearing the maroon shirt
7

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 23/03/2008 08:13:57
For me there were absolutely no surprises in yesterdays
performance.
As one fan stated above, we have a bit of quality in Kingston, and that is where it stops really.
Frail & Co have served up dreadful displays like this all season. They are the norm, the exceptions are those wins against the OF.
Frail has absolutely no clue, and he MUST stop with this ridiculous flattering of Elliot. The boy is absolutely dire.
Too many players in maroon, who are ony up to first division standard, and that is a fact.
Shaggy, has managed to keep Vlad sweet and some of the press o his side, but he's part of the problem and we need to rectify the manager situation PRONTO!










8

Aitchie,

Glebe 23/03/2008 08:15:07
Glad to see more and more jambos are seeing through the Frail mirage.

He's not the answer.
9

TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 08:17:51
The off field shambles is displaying itself on the field.

Are the Supporters Associations and the Supporters Trust going to get off their knees?
10

LyonHearts,

le teil 23/03/2008 08:17:57
Sounds like an awful match! Falkirk obviously had a game plan to avoid losing and they stuck to it! Bottom 6 for us now for the first time!

I think we should start planning for next season by clearing out the deadwood - starting with Frail! Vlad has the cash to build a team that can challenge! This season has been shocking and this is not unexpected really!
11

Laughing at The Jambos,

23/03/2008 08:19:06
#1 SURLY TOT

What?? I can't think what you mean.
I doubt if many of the "eenemy" here actually hate Hearts as a club....what they do DETEST however, is the sheer pomposity of those small number of jambos who put down everybody else as being supporters of "wee" clubs...failing to understand that Old Firm apart, we are ALL "wee clubs" in Scotland.rendering all that "we're bigger/better/fetter/more stupid than you" to the level of the gutter....and then they feign surprise when others give them regular pelters for that same lofty attitude........which is the only "lofty" thing about their club these days !!
12

Laughing at The Jambos,

23/03/2008 08:23:42
#5,6,7,8, and 9
Wow......several posts in a row merely articulating exactly what I myself have been saying for some weeks now.........I sense that(for the first time) there just MIGHT....repeat MIGHT....be some hope that Jambo fans'll get together, forget the supporters club hangers on, and organise to get som straight answers from the Cha-Cha Champion about what's going on/not going on.....but the Armchair HobNobs will resist...just you wait and see !!
13

JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 08:37:56
I see the armchair fan has returned

Anyone that had any doubts about LATJ/Riley Hamish'e credentials of being a so called "football expert" check this

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heartofmidlothianfc/Hearts-00-Falkirk-Frail39s-men.3906298.jp

Posting on these threads at 16.59

And this moron calls Victor for not going to games and others...How was sitting in with mummy listening to radio scotland eating your custard creams?

ARMCHAIR FAN...No credibility left...moron.Caught out again just like you were when you were Riley Hamish...

Mummy taking you on the Easter Egg hunt today? Haha...

Ug Ug
14

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 23/03/2008 08:39:55
5* and 6*

You almost saved me the effort of writing. Although I thought as no 6 there were a few passable performances. As for Elliot he is so desperate to prove himself a striker, he will shoot rather than pass it to a better placed player. As for FRail if it doesn't work he hasn't got any idea how to change things. What does he do, Chesney comes off and he changes things round to adopt same pattern. Then he brings on Mole to replace Elliot again no tactical change. Well I can go on but no point 5 and 6 you already have expressed my feelings.

I myself don't have a season ticket but I go up to Edinburgh every few weeks and will go the match. Buying a new season ticket is up to the individual. There are loyal ones who would never desert the club. However, are those people any more loyal than the those who refuse to buy tickets as they see their club reaching rock bottom. Those people love their side and want something to be done about standard of play and players.
15

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 23/03/2008 08:45:27
7*

From repots I have read Mole not even up to first division standard. He couldn't get a game for QOS. The guy doing the scoring for them is Dobbie, an ex Hobo an Ranker.
16

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 23/03/2008 08:45:59
#12

Seems the penny is finally dropping with some of the Hearts support. I have a few Jambo mates who are not renewing this season even if a manager is appointed. They say they will pay game by game, and they wont be going to the supposed grade b games against St Mirren, Hamilton (when they come up).

Turnover for the Mad one will decline this season imo.
17

carrottop,

Dumfries 23/03/2008 08:55:51
As has been said by posters some weeks before hope bottom six means that Hearts will now play the promising youngsters for the rest of the league campaign instead of the older average players.
Vlad is not stupid (really) and to entice season ticket holders he will need a new manager, pool of transfer money, attractive style of play. All of the above cant be made public even if there are already some done deals so hard though it is becoming we will just have to believe. I still think the team will be geared to peak with the stadium but some fun and entertainment before then please.
18

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 23/03/2008 09:05:07
#17

Good Manager = Money

Pool of cash for transfers = More money

Attractive style of play = George Burley (done that)

You already have 13,000 season ticket holders this year so where is all this money comihg from?

Not from Vlad's back pocket that's for sure.
19

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23/03/2008 09:07:59
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20

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 23/03/2008 09:08:45
My concerns for next season stem from the latest accounts.
The debt at around £40m ws expected, but so too were thigs like top six, and qualifying for europe.
We look unlikely to get into the top six, and that will cost us financially.
So where does the money come from to bring in new players, and by that I mean better players?
Add to this equation an absolute certainty that season tickets will be well below this seasons total, and it looks bleaker.
Mr Romanov really has to get it right this time. Ever sice he sacked George Burley, he has made error after error in his appointments to the footballing side.
For goodness sake we've sacked managers when we were fourth in the league!!!!
My loyalty to the club remains, however, should the re-developments "stall" I think the game's up!!
Back to football...Shaggy, the team you put out yesterday will get chewed up by United. Get your finger out, or get some help. One or the other.
Something pretty radical is needed, those players that you referred to as "my guys", are losers.
Sort it out.

21

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:31:22
All the experts stating the blindingly obvious and oblivious to the fact that Romonov knows that he needs to appoint a new manager & that the current squad is not good enough.
Only Banks/berra/Wallace/Kingston /Palazalous/Johnson/Driverare good enough.No need for protests etc it will be resolved for next season.
No issue with anyone not renewing their season ticket until tangible proof of the foregoing as we have had so many falso promises but IMO all the signs are there that Romonov has learnt by his mistakes.
Worth showing a bit more patience and not allowing our fellow 'underachievers' from across the city to wind us up any more than the current state of affairs merits.
Hopefully we keep the season going by beeting D.Utd but if not i would like Neilson/Zaliukas/Stewart/Chezny/Miko etc left out to blood some yougsters whether ready or not
22

Catholic Jambo,

edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:33:50
#19 as well as being a knobhead see you are easily wound up as well.
It's Easter Sunday;calm down and do not take yourself so seriously.
23

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:38:34
heard rumor that new manager will have £60 million to spend on new players next season.Anyone else heard anything on that score
24

Black Five,

edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:43:19
Frail is a complete liar and a plonker.One he tells lies about what is the real situation at Tynecastle.He says Velicka would make no diference.Do you really believe that Mr Frail or are you insane.That Romanov who I`ve already stated wants to sell the team and has no interest in the playing side sold him to make a quick buck.Anyone interested in being in the top six would never have sold the only goalscorer.Now what`s left Elliot and Mole.Frail again tells lies saying Ellliot is a prospect.He`s no more a prospect than the crocked McCann ( and they actuallly might resign that case for the geriatric ward )He has no footballing ability and yet Frail still says he has.Let`s say frail can`t be that stupid so he`s either a liar or needs a white stick.The rest of the team bar about 3 are just not good enough either.There`s no way that they can make the top 6 as there is no one to score goals.You must score to win games Mr Frail so you don`t miss Velicka.What a blatant lie.
As for the future at Tynecastle it is bleak.Romanov is not interested,That`s a fact not a wild statement.He wants to sell of the team and is only interested in the ground for commercial purposes.The fans should show their disinterest by not renewing season tickets and a complete boycot of the ground till the end of the season to show Romanov that he might not be interested but we are.We demand better than this tripe.
25

Black Five,

edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:45:37
As for comment 23 that must have came from a raving lunatic.That`s not going to happen.Romanov is not interested...FACT.
26

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:46:36
A lot of our fans keep believing that because was good under Burley ca be good again soon. It was TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO that Burley was sacked. What has gone well in that time????

How many false promises, lies, spin have we been fed and many swallowed.

18 months ago there was a call for a boycott and I was firmly against it saying Romanov needed some mnore time to prove himself. Perhaps I was wrong, perhaps though he did need a bit more rope to hang himself.

In my opinion he has used that rope very effectively!

For 1st time in 20 years I won't be renewing my ticket and I am no fair weather supporter having endured much in 30 years of support.

Next time Vlad shows up it should be us leading the "Champions kleague, you're having a laugh" chant. At the break we'll have half the points of an average Rangers team.

We've been relegated before but Vlad has brought us to the lowest point in self esteem for supporters. A training club for Kaunas players is not what we had in mind.



27

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 09:54:32
#Graham H: fairly accurate summary .However i still say it is worth waiting(incl not renewing Season Ticket if u see fit) to see if the failure you summarise has not humiliated/humbled Romonov into recognising his errors.
Between now & the end of season i will continue supporting the team as IMO the manager & players are committed albeit not good enough.
28

SirSerg',

23/03/2008 10:03:17
Can any HoM provide 1 piece of evidence that VR and UBIG have the footballing side of HoM in their interest?

They have sacked directors, sold best players, sacked managers, imported cheap Liths to bolster squad and increased debt to £38M so bank benefits from increased interest payments.

The above does not suggest investment in a team.
29

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 10:26:50
#Sir Serg
what a rediculous question.
-Keeping Hearts at tynecastle : Romonov could have bought the Stadium without the club .He has spent circa £1m on a planning application that(if /when) cp guarantees that housing will never be built on the site
.
-funded players of the calibre of Kingston/Scakel/Tall/Brellier/Fysas/Bednar/Jankauskas

-funded new contracts for Gordon/Hartley/Pressley/Driver/Berra/Wallace

- funded procurement of top quality European yougsters

- funded an unprecedented investment in the community incl the SEVENS scheeme( 400 7 year olds due at Dundee Utd game FOC; all potential fans of the future )

Not all of the foregoing has been succesfull but all impact on the footballing side. None of which he needed to do if his agenda was 100% non football as you infer.

For the avoidance of doubt well aware that negatives outway the positives but your conclusion that Bank benefits is total bull. They are ones exposed to a £38m debt & assets of circa £20m.
30

Dood,

23/03/2008 10:31:22
#23 - I heard that the figure was closer to £100m. I also heard that a 70000 seated stadium, domestic dominance and Champions League success were also on the cards.
31

TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 10:56:32
29

What Sir Serg states are the facts.


Managers sacked if they disagreed with Romanov.

(One of the best young managers in the U.K. sacked when Hearts were league leaders.)

Fact.Players sold and transfer money unaccounted for.

We had the embarrassment of a respected club captain
being chased out the club.

Fact. Creditors taking Hearts to Court to get their money.

Fact. Duds imported on loan for exhorbitant fees.
(Goodness knows who pockets that money.)

Fact. Pie in the sky projects proposed at the expense of HOM while the team chogs along.

Fact. A debt nearing £40 million that grows without any sign of abating.A debt without an asset to show for it.

Fact.We have several mysterious characters on the club payroll doing ....well what?

The reality is staring you in the face.

The agenda is to milk the club dry.Nil investment.

Is this o.k. with you?



This is an incredibly worrying picture.



32

M8 Traveller,

Newington 23/03/2008 10:57:42
Can't add much more to what has already been said about how dire it was yesterday. I have followed this club through thick and thin for 45 years. Relegations and other lows, but I can't remember ever feeling so pessimistic about the future as I do right now. Like many others I am seriously considering whether or not to renew my season ticket. Only because I want to send a message to Mad Vlad Tsar of Gorgie. He really has to be made to understand that this situation cannot continue.
33

BigRon,

23/03/2008 11:04:16
It will all come out in the wash in the summer. The 2 crucial questions are the next manager and the new stand. Any more delays in appointing a manager and any backsliding as far as the stand goes then I think our goose is cooked and VR is seeking an exit strategy.
I don`t live in Scotland now but am coming over for a long weekend next weekend(primarily for a drink or twenty) and although I first sat in the old stand in 1963 I am seriously considering giving the match against Dundee Utd a miss although I have a ticket.
My exasperation with Vlad is with the total lack of transparency surrounding him and his flunkies and the feeling that this famous institution no longer belongs to the people who support it.

34

SirSerg',

23/03/2008 11:15:22
#29 Not wanting to argue, but....

You use the words funded and investment.

HoM had a £10M debt. Imagine you also had a £10M debt on your credit card. You increase your balance to £38M and subsequently have increased monthly interest charges, assuming you do not pay the balance off at end of month.

Is this funding or investment?

The balance has to be paid at some point. Simply accruing monthly interest charges on the balance in not investing or funding. It's simply increasing the borrowing and raking in the charges.
35

LionheartFodithman,

23/03/2008 11:27:25
#34
As usual your posts prove you no as much about business finance as you do about football.Zilch.

Manchester United: £660m (At June 2006).
Liverpool: £350m (At January 2008).
Arsenal: £307m (At November 2007).

All these figures are debt.
Could the Hobonomic experts please explain to me why these clubs aint in administration yet.

36

Dood,

23/03/2008 11:30:16
#29 & 35.

Aye ok then, you win. Everything in the garden's rosy. Vlads great. £38m of debt? Nae bother.

I appreciate it's Sunday, but even still - surely it's a bit early to be on the sauce already?
37

Laughing at The Jambos,

23/03/2008 11:33:56
#22 CATHY THE JAMBO

......and let me take this opportunity of wishing YOUR mother also, a VERY HAPPY EASTER Ma'am !!
38

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 11:41:59
#31& #34 obvious answer to #31's question.NO IT IS NOT ALRIGHT WITH ME.
Negatives are all transparent. As a shareholder who has not seen the accounts i cannot comment on how much of increased debt reflects abuse of HMFC and how much comes under the banner of investment.What i can tell you is the VAST MAJORITY of the increased borrowings reflect INVESTMENT in the team. With all due respect this will become transparent when accounts issued.

ie PLAYERS SALARIES eg Craig Gordon £900k!!! Tall £500k etc etc

#34 Funding or investment? clearly a mixture of both. ie Tall =funding as no return Gordon= investment as £9m return (Scakel/Bednar further examples of investment , no doubt Kingston will be the same.)

I am choosing to believe that Romonov(no idiot) has seen the light and realised that previous business plan is not credible (in other words agrees with you both!) & he is correcting same.

I (like the vast majority of Hearts fans;yesterdays attendance a testament to same) will continue to support the team in the hope(as opposed to expectation) that wrongs will be corrected. This is not burrying our heads in the sand;it is choosing to hold fire for a few more months for tangible evidence of improvement.
39

LionheartFodithman,

23/03/2008 11:45:13
#36
The garden is far from rosy.But the nonsense spouted on here about finances gets on ma nips.
I am a Hearts supporter and i want to see my team competing at the best level that is possible,currently we are not.
We are rubbish at the moment because the footballing side of the club has been poorly managed.
Of course we need a new manager and a few quality players,everybody who has watched the side this seson will agree.It may happen it may not.
I will be paying for games next season on a week to week basis with the hope that things will get better.My choice.
No sauce consumed this morning,just a large dose of reality.

40

Catholic Jambo,

Edin 23/03/2008 12:14:02
#36 no matter how hard you & others attempt to paint the picture as blacker than it is the majority of Hearts fans will stay positive.

SUNDAY MAIL: leiven or McGhee ; Leiven the favourite. Romonov accepts that he cannot interfere with team.

Realise speculation but prefer to wait & see if delivered .

No doubt Craig Levein Heart remains at Tynecastle.
41

mcjambo,

23/03/2008 12:23:04
i noticed yesterday that the hearts team really need to play for each other and not themselves.
i noticed on a couple of occasions robbie neilson no passing to larry when larry was right infront of him with plenty of space.
and when berra took that head knock in the 2nd half no players apart from rallied round him to see if he was alright. the team need some serious team bonding theres no point of taking them paint balling or what ever it is they do just the once this nneeds to be done on a weekly basis
42

mcjambo,

23/03/2008 12:26:56
also i think larrys played his last game for us after the match he ran over to the gorgie road stand and started shaking hands with some of the crowd then ran over to the old stand and did the same.
he'll get injured playing for ghana then larry no more.
43

BigRon,

23/03/2008 12:29:59
#40 Just read the Mail article but who knows if it is all just Vlad spin to sell a few more season tickets.
If true it looks like they are looking at appointing someone who can deliver results on a limited budget.

44

victorian,

23/03/2008 12:31:19
good afternoon all and happy eater, i mean easter, actually i prefer happy eater.

i've been ill since saturday therefore unable to witness the utter madness which has befallen this forum, in real time that is, i have just read back over the threads and one word springs to mind... staggering.

wasn't even at the game on saturday due to illness, by accounts i didn't miss much. a horrendous game by the sounds of it.

one thing that became obvious after reading back over the threads was the continued deterioration of LATJ's mental health, but it was quite funny to see him getting it tight from all and sundry, at least a dozen non jambos telling the crackpot that he's making a complete erse of himself.

it was also bizarre to read the amount of references to myself from the usual band of muppets with nothing better to say for themselves, and nothing better to occupy their time. i even read that some of my posts have been discussed on hobo.net. what a bunch of saddos.

the draw makes it hard to make the top 6 now but it's still possible. i'm pretty sure if we win our last 2 games we will be there. not much to shout about but if it's there to be played for then why not?

don't know if it's worth much consideration but the sunday mail has a piece about how hearts plan to approach levein and mcghee in the summer. yes another piece of leaked information to deflect attention away from other issues and sell season tickets... maybe, but maybe not.

i would take either as manager but would probably prefer mcghee.

45

Florentine_Pogen,

23/03/2008 12:46:28
#35 LionheartStupidman - "Could the Hobonomic experts please explain to me why these clubs aint in administration yet."

Perhaps you should take a look at the turnover, stable & committed leadership in boardroom, TV revenue streams, guaranteed income in the EPL, value of players, worldwide fanbase & merchandising, corporate sponsorship, stadium naming rights, last 8 of CL, 70,000 fans at every home game etc. for the clubs you mention before you post your nonsensical drivel.

If you seriously believe that Yams of Kaunas operate in the same football sphere as Liverpool, Man. u. and Arsenal then you should be sectioned.
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Catholic Jambo,

EDIN 23/03/2008 12:51:48
##45 I think if you read his post without your blinkers on you will ralise that he is not suggesting that Hearts operate on the same sphere as Man U etc; he was demonstrating the point that debt does not equal administation.
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23/03/2008 12:51:52
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andyhibee2485,

23/03/2008 13:03:47
Sounds like a dire match but with Aberdeen drawing your chances of the top 6 are far from over. Dundee United at home and Kilmarnock away are fixtures you could clearly get points from, especially considering the very few goals you give away.

Do hibs a favour and give united a good pumping next week please.

Levein/Mcghee both sound decent targets if true. I'd suggest Levein is unlikely though considering his success at united, his open ambition to prove himself in England and his admission that the impending arrival of Romanov was a factor in his original departure.

Anyway to intice these sort of candidates there will have to be tangible guarantees regarding transfer budget/autonomy over team matters etc so, like most people are saying, it is a case of wait and see what happens in the summer.
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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 13:15:23
#48 Make no mistake Leiven would come back to Tynecastle in a minute.However both/any other candidate of stature will insist on attonomy with respect to team matters
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the thinking man,

falkirk 23/03/2008 13:24:55
Worst performance since St Mirren 26 Dec. Received season ticket renewal email last week. Someone is having a laugh.
1 - where is the new manager, promised months ago?
2 - a captain should motivate, as Elvis did. Berra? Surely some mistake.
3 - Neilson in the press at the weekend wanting Frail to be next manager. Is that because no decent manager would consider picking him every week?
4 - Tall, probably our best right back or central defender on the bench while Neilson and Zaliukas (who seems to think you have to watch/guard your opponent like a basketball player) remain on the park.
5 - Is Pinilla really injured or is it another of those mystery illnesses/injuries Gordon and Pressley supposedly had?
6 - Callum Elliot. I hope I never see him again in a Hearts side. Once again Frail showing his total lack of awareness re what constitutes a good player. For that matter, just what did Audrey do when he came on, another Lithuanian waste of space.
7 - Mikey Stewart. Just as well his timing was poor as just one of his petulent late tackles would have resulted in another ordering off for him if connection had been made. A prima donna lacking in ability we can do without.
8 - Why has work on the new stand been put back another year? Is Vlad now having second thoughts on his investment here?
9 - The boy, Roman, who was visible during the good times has mysteriously disappeared.
10 - Our season tickets in the platinum section were supposed to include the match programme sent out before the event. Were programmes not published for the Falkirk game? Another cost cutting exercise?

Anyone renewing season tickets at the moment will merely convince Vlad all is well.
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TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 13:31:55
49

Hearts will only attract a decent manager when Romanov is gone.

Craig Levein has it made at Dundee Utd. and only an old firm job or a move to the English Premiership will appeal to him .
He is far too smart to give up what he has for a dodgy relationship .

His position is not dissimilar to Jim Mcleans at Dundee Utd before he was offered the Rangers job.

He had a good thing going and stayed put to make a "wee" nest egg.
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victorian,

23/03/2008 13:33:31
#47 LATJ, it's all there in black and white mad one, the proof is there for all who are interested to see.

every time you let rip with one of your hate-filled diatribes, you get exactly what you deserve, humiliation from all quarters.

a sadder mess this forum has not witnessed.

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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 13:45:19
#51 for whatever reason you only ever contribute a negative slant on anything to do with Hearts.I accept that i look at everything through maroon tinted glasses.

LEIVEN at Hall of Fame confirmed that his Heart will always be at Tynecastle.He is a young manager with plenty of time to move to a bigger stage i am certain that the opportunity to rebuild a Hearts team from such a low base will appeal to him(given approp assurances re selection etc)

Repeat again i am happy to wait a few weeks & see.
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TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 13:49:21
53

Strange comment that one.

I wasn't pedantic.I didn't correct your spelling mistakes for example.

I offered you a knowledgable piece of advice.

Levein wont go to Tynecastle while Romanov is in control.
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LionheartFodithman,

23/03/2008 13:57:04
#45.. P-F
Read post #46

Listened to the game yesterday on Hearts world and Gary Mackay quipped that because the game was that bad that he may not bother to turn up at next weeks game.

Sometimes you gotta Laugh With The Jambo,s.

Vic...good job you jinxed ma bet the other night or you would have missed out on that pint.What you got anyhoo Vlad Flu ???
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victorian,

23/03/2008 13:57:11
rather than the hearts manager job being a poisoned chalice or it being a job which nobody will take who is already in employment, i will venture that it could be argued that there hasn't been a better time for a manager to take the plunge and work for romanov.

previous managers like robertson, burley, mcglynn (caretaker), rix, ivanauskas, have all had interference from romanov and his so called advisors.

surely even romanov will now know that he can't afford to shoot himself in the foot again by letting a good manager slip through the club's fingers and therefore leave the new guy, whoever it turns out to be, to do his job with full control of team affairs.

it could be argued that levein or mcghee would have something which burley never had, a free hand in selecting the team, without the need to explain in writing why he picked certain players.

it might turn out to be impossible to prise levein away from dundee united because he sems to have laid down roots there, but mcghee might turn out to be more willing to take a chance.

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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 14:00:41
#54 strange response! Did not think you were being pedantic .(no idea of why u ref spelling mistakes;however if it helps i admit that if i do not utelise the spell check that i am prone to errors)
I was disagreeing with your opinion and commenting on your continual negativity with all things Hearts.
I am happy to wait & see what transpires as opposed to continually feering a worst case senario.Guilty of optimism as opposed to realism?;possibly!
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 14:08:12
#56 Afternoon Vic hope your bout of Vlad flu is over with lol

As you can see Laughing boy riley has been caught out after having a dig at you for seemingly not going to games he was caught out yesterday posting on the forums...his excuse feeble as it is and one of the worst ive saw was he wasnt at a top league game...I thought he was banned from going near kids playgrounds.

Back to the JT's shocker of a game yesterday was totaly woefull to watch, think id rather stick pins in ma baws than watch that again. dont think there were 3 passes strung together all afternoon, no cohesion, Kingston was the only one that made a difference, Rubens wasnt bad the rest were utter mince, although i do reckon the falkirk keeper should have at the very least been booked definate handball outside the box when miko might have scored at the very least a kingston free kick from around there might have produced something, a lot of refs would have sent the keeper in for an early bath.

Some interesting news in the sunday mail today and interersting quotes from Vlad although how much of it is smokescreen

"Rotation systems can work when the rotated players are good but I understand the need for consistency.

"There is too much quantity and not enough quality.

"The coaching staff in the past saw the situation as three players for each position to keep them fresh - but I realise this is not working.

"Youngsters are our future and I am happy with the development of Christophe Berra, Calum Elliot and Lee Wallace (he learned so much from Takis Fyssas).

"We need more young Scottish players in the team."
Romanov urged fans not to panic, saying he will personally underwrite the debt.

He added: "There is no need to worry about the level of debt.

"We will be doing everything we can to cover it. We are comfortable with the figures and there is no problem with shareholders in Ukio Bankas.

"Lithuania Central Bank will ensure that we hold within our limit and we ar
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 14:10:18
CONT...

"Lithuania Central Bank will ensure that we hold within our limit and we are protected with my shares and wealth."

and from the mail itself:
"Jambos supremo Vladimir Romanov will make official approaches at the end of the season to interview contenders and MailSport understands Levein is the favoured choice. The Dundee United boss was a success during his spell in the Hearts hotseat and is now doing an excellent job at Tannadice."

"United owner Eddie Thompson won't want to lose his manager and will fight all the way to keep him.

But the lure of going back to Tynecastle could prove too much for former Jambos player Levein to resist.

Although at this stage there has been no official contact for permission to speak to Levein, Romanov has spent the past four weeks in talks with Hearts chiefs aimed at identifying a leading candidate.

After previously interfering in team selection Vlad has now told close aides he accepts he must step back.

And he been impressed by the credentials of both Levein and McGhee.

Fir Park chief John Boyle also wants to keep the impressive McGhee but privately has accepted he will lose his manager to a bigger club in the near future."
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victorian,

23/03/2008 14:10:37
#55 LF, nah not vladflu, i've got rileyhamishflu.

it's a really nasty bug that makes you sweat and cough up drool. it makes you rave at anything that moves and makes you hate everything and anything.

it can be contracted by having too much exposure to rileyhamish ranting and raving.

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TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 14:15:04
I can't magic up a positive line at this time 57.

I could post that Hearts are doing away fine under the stewardship of you know who but reality convinces me otherwise.

I could pretend that a £40 million debt means nothing-as some believe-but I know from experience that is not the case.

If I saw assets to account for the debt I wouldn't be as concerned. Alas.
Another negative perception?

If respected people like Burley and Pressley hadn't been so badly treated I might be less pessimistic.

If offering you a realistic message is negative then I hold my hands up and plead guilty.

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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 14:17:22
#60

Can be quite a nasty parasitic bug that, youll have to keep an eye on it, Its about time the EN and Scotsman were disinfecting these forums to get rid of these parasites. I noticed some woman giving him grief yesterday and like the good old fashioned cyberbully he is he turned on a WOMAN as well, has this moron to morals at all, or respect for anyone.

He spent yesterday taking his dear old mumsy out so he said, personally i reckon it was round the corner to the local spar for a packet of custard creams and jaffa cakes to sit in listening to radio scotland with her.
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 14:21:58
TommyTommy you still harping on about 40million debt which has been reported to be 37million but still not an exact figure as this is only guess work but probably quite accurate, the actual figures havent been produced yet.

However when you consider 22million of the debt was there when Romanov took over the debt has actually risen by 15million in 3 years, Now take off the transfer fees that have not been accounted for yet as they are in a different financial year all told so far approx 12million and the level of debt will have actually risen by 3million.

Or is this to complicated for you to understand.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/03/2008 14:22:43
Don't panic!

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victorian,

23/03/2008 14:29:14
afternoon JT&T,

yes the lunatic was in typically fine form yesterday i see. he was getting pummelled left, right & centre by a large number of people. again typically of him, he's denying all knowledge of it.

some interesting stuff in the sunday mail. some of the references to romanov quotes from the match programme can be taken with a large pinch of salt i suppose. it would be hard to argue against the theory that these things were said to deflect attention away from other things. only actions will be taken seriously, not words.

the story about levein and mcghee being front runners for the job is of more immediate interest to me. this isn't a release from hearts, it's a piece by mark guidi who is their chief sports writer. presumably he's received some kind of information with which to form this story.

i would go for mcghee personally because i think he prefers a more attacking style.
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TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 14:29:18
63

What has the debt purchased?
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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/03/2008 14:30:58
#61
Agree with all the negatives you highlight and i share your concern.
FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS: worst case senario is possible if UKIO Bank go bust. In current climate cleary not impossible.However as there is nothing we can do about it i refuse to worry.

TEAM MATTERS: all the indicators are that Romonov also recognises the failures & intends correcting same.

However bottom line is that we are opposites. I also plead guilty. ie to being an optimist
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what a chancer,

abdn 23/03/2008 14:31:15
lets get some one who can actually see a bit of potential in a player and drop the restlet them go elsewhere to much dross hanging around the club,time to let the youngsters thrive give them a game in the reserves every week and promote them when there is good cause ,to many foriegners clogging the works.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/03/2008 14:31:31
The Scottish Cup victory TT.

Talk about easy pickings.

Please try another angle.
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LionheartFodithman,

23/03/2008 15:03:55
TommyTommy
Bet your right good fun at parties.
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TommyTommy,

23/03/2008 15:36:02
70
Parties?
Political Parties?
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SirSerg',

23/03/2008 15:40:52
The talk of the debt is never ending, but £37M in the red and 7th in the table with little playing assets to factor into the equation does note bode well.

HoM had/have operating costs of £1.5M per month with a T/O of £1M per month. The sale of Gordon simply brings the club back to a break even figure for a 12 month accounting period, and that's based on a season with cup runs and European football.

What money will be made available to the new manager? Where will that come from?

Foulkes said there was doubts about what was happening to the transfer incomes, so until next seasons figures are published, it's speculation that the money is indeed in HoM bank account. UBIG negotiating "Egg" contract questions who even holds the players contracts.

Things are murky.
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Laughing at The Jambos,

23/03/2008 15:46:13
#52 DARTH VICTOR

You mean it's open season then DARTH......and on your Mother???

Wow........well....let's see!!
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 15:48:54
Serg/Anton

I cant speak for every other player but i can assure you 100% Craig Gordons contract was with Hearts. Not with some poxy little Lith company or with Vlad, but HMFC.

As for the rest of your ramblings everything you say is mostly based on personal opinion, just because you pretend to be Lithuanian does not somehow make you an expert on Hearts or Vlad, and in fact based on some of your rants recently you have clearly shown you dont even understand the basics of football, so how can anyone possibly even consider taking anything you say seriously.

You have about as much knowledge of Hearts and scottish football as I have of the tribal rituals of south american indians.
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 15:51:42
#73

Mummys boy has returned haha

Take in a nice game of junior football down the local park today to further enhance your knowledge of the game?

Whats it next week son? perhaps a rich tea or maybe even go wild and go for a chocolate digestive while listening to the match with mummsy.

Gunny how whenever serg appears you do, are you next door neighbours in pilton by any chance? or could it be another one of your psuedos?

Ug Ug
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 15:53:23
LATJ/Riley

How did your easter egg hunt go? i hope you werent bullying all the kids now, beating them up and stealing their eggs, because thats about your limit.
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 15:54:16
LATJ/Riley

Sorry forgot conditions of your license forbid you going near kids play areas dont they?
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JamboThrough&Through,

23/03/2008 15:55:38
LATJ/Riley

Ug Ug duh Ug

A language youll probably understand better.
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LionheartFodithman,

23/03/2008 16:04:01
JT&T
I think you have contracted a severe case of BileyHamishFlu m8.
Yep 4 posts running consecutivly with no real point or sense.
Are you frothing at the mouth and holding the top of your head on ??

Seek VI for help m8..
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SirSerg',

23/03/2008 16:04:26
Gorgie's

I'm not going to get into a slag match with you today, we've been down that path many times.

It is without doubt that I have a different viewpoint to your own. Neither of us are right all of the time and there is probably a middle ground that is indeed the truth.

The sale of Velicka was a strange scenario and one I found difficult to comprehend. If he had been sold at the end of the season then I would understand. Surely an English team would have paid £600,000 in advance. Especially when Bednar is worth £2M - £3M.

I recall many posters saying a year ago that this season was pivotal. Skip 10 months and people are saying next season is now pivotal. Fast forward another 12 months and then what if the status quo remains?

Returning Benni to FBK is good for Kaunas, but why is Kurskis still at HoM? Who has made that decision? If ever a contract should have been cut short it should have been his, and you could probably make a case for several other of the Lithuanians.

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Uncle Tam,

Loanhead 23/03/2008 16:08:03
Sir Serg'
May I compliment you on the sudden improvement in your weitten English? It's almost as if you'd never spoken Lithuanian in your life. Quite remarkable!
Laughing at the Jambos: Great news for you on this Easter Sunday -- Buffalo Bill has risen from the dead and intends to be at next season's cup final.
Oh, but I forgot, the Flairmeisters would never do anything as crass as win the cup, would they? That's for common teams.
Gentlemen, I salute you both, the finest double act since Laurel and Hardy (who probably could remember Hibs winning the cup ... just!)
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victorian,

23/03/2008 16:09:46
from #72,

"Foulkes said there was doubts about what was happening to the transfer incomes, so until next seasons figures are published, it's speculation that the money is indeed in HoM bank account. UBIG negotiating "Egg" contract questions who even holds the players contracts."

this is further proof of just how big a phani this guy really is.

until next years results are published, surely it's speculation that the gordon transfer money is OR IS NOT in hearts accounts. yet another example of the arrogance of the typical hobo.

regarding the negotiation of contracts, hearts are owned by UBIG. if there is negotiation to be carried out and the umbrella company thinks it's best practice for it to do it directly, where is the problem in that? it doesn't prove that the player contracts are held in the name of UBIG. yet another example of the wild speculation indulged in by the typical hobo.

they will see skulduggery in everything. they will put 2 unknown factors together and come up with one of their pseudo-facts.

it don't necessarily make it so.

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Uncle Tam,

Loanhead 23/03/2008 16:09:47
Sorry Serg -- that should be 'written' not 'weitten'
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Catholic Jambo,

Edin 23/03/2008 16:12:37
##Keep trying Sir Serg: you continually state the blindingly obvious and assume all HEARTS fans are not intelligent enough to realise that Romonov is well aware that previous business plan is unsustainable.

2007/