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Published Date: 20 January 2008
Yet another mistake by a Hibs keeper gives Hearts first win since November
HEARTS 1
Velicka 20

HIBERNIAN 0


THE Hearts revival starts here. The Hibernian revival under Mixu Paatelainen stalled here. And all down to the revival of an aspect of the Tynecastle derby that is in danger of becoming a tradition. The Tynecastle men were well worthy of a first win since November 11, and a first SPL clean sheet since September 3. But they still required one of those archetypal aberrations from a Hibs goalkeeper at the Gorgie ground to seal their victory. Yves Ma-Kalambay must now be placed alongside Zibi Malkowski, Simon Brown and Andy McNeil as Easter Road custodians who haven't covered themselves in glory on such an occasion.

There was power in the close-range header from Andrius Velicka that followed a 19th minute corner from Andrew Driver, nodded back across goal by Christophe Berra. But Ma-Kalambay was right behind the Lithuanian striker's effort, only to fumble his attempt to grasp it and so allow the ball to spin behind him. The goal came during a period wherein Hearts were consistently on the front foot against strangely subdued rivals. Hibs did regroup after the interval and enjoyed long periods of possession as Stephen Frail's men elected to sit on their lead. Rarely, though, did the visitors threaten.

Statistics can be twisted around a one-game turn. Since Frail was made caretaker manager with sole responsibility for picking the team, Hearts have now lost only once in four outings and are unbeaten in three matches going into their Scottish Cup replay at Motherwell on Tuesday evening.

"It is vital to build on this," Frail said of the derby triumph. "We're not sitting back and saying we have turned the corner and that we will finish third or anything like that. It is a wee step and it's a step in the right direction. At the moment that is all we can do. It's back to basics. But we will look forward to Motherwell. We needed to get a reaction out of the players and have done so. That showed in the second half. It wasn't pretty but the players held out for one another. It is only three points, but the added confidence is that it is a win against our rivals."

There were peculiar bragging rights on offer. It was the first time in years an Edinburgh derby so late in season was a lower-half of the table contest. Essentially, the bitter rivals were scrapping to prove that they were the lesser struggling capital side. A saying about bald men and combs springs to mind. Providing evidence they weren't in such a form trough as the other lot across the city was supposed to prove an easier task for Hibs.

Even if they could not boast a win in eight SPL games, in the past week the Easter Road men were portrayed as a new, improved team under Paatelainen. After the instant impact of a 3-0 Scottish Cup victory over Inverness in his first game, certainly Hibs were a different team for his second encounter. The sale of David Murphy to Birmingham City for £1.5m and the subsequent short-term deal that resulted in former captain Ian Murray taking over at left-back made sure of that. Murray struggled to get up to the frenetic pace in his first game since he appeared for Norwich City two months ago. His team-mates had no excuse for being similarly deficient.

The home side's play belied their appalling run of ten games without a win, second-bottom of the table status and reputation as a (sometimes) collection of half-hearted performers by delivering the sort of biting, scratching first-half display demanded of any team intent on seizing a derby day. As is standard, in the opening exchanges both sides scampered around in a crazed manner. Thereafter, however, Hearts continued to throw themselves into the 50-50 challenges and chase down loose balls to force a tentative-looking visiting side ever deeper.

Ruben Palazuelos and Deividas Cesnauskis thundered forward in support of lone striker Velicka as Hearts accepted shooting opportunities whenever they found themselves in the final third. Eight minutes in, Ma-Kalambay had to contort his body in mid-air to extend fully his arm and brilliantly claw away a deflected effort from Palazuelos. Several other raking drives did not find their mark, but Hearts clearly thought there was merit in testing the erratic Belgian under-21 international keeper. Their convictions were justified with the telling strike.

In an effort to retrieve a desperate situation, at half-time Paatelainen withdrew the ineffectual Abdessalam Benjelloun in favour of Steven Fletcher, returning to action for the first time since sustaining an ankle injury two months ago. It was the introduction of new signing John Rankin for Merouane Zemmama midway through the period, however, that almost proved pivotal.

The £110,000 buy from Inverness Caledonian Thistle offered good delivery from set-pieces. An 82nd minute free-kick he swept invitingly into the box seemed certain to be turned in at the back post by Chris Hogg, only for the Hibs central defender to pull up under pressure from Christos Karipidis. Afterwards Paatelainen claimed Hogg had been impeded. Such a reading of the incident wasn't disputed by Frail, who had a sinking feeling that Steve Banks' goal was about to be breached as the ball was curled over by Rankin. "There might have been a wee bit in it (the challenge by Karipidis], but the referee never gave it, thankfully." As much as their form, Hearts' luck might be changing.

JEEPERS KEEPERS
Hibs goalies struck by the Tynecastle derby curse:

Simon Brown
Thought a Lee Miller header was drifting wide and let it go - only to watch in horror as the ball drifted into the corner of his net. Fortunately for him, Hibs went on to win 2-1 in this April 2005 derby.

Zibi Malkowski
Spilled shot at the feet of Edgaras Jankauskas to gift the striker a goal in the Boxing Day derby last season. Hearts won 3-2.

Andy McNeil
Completely misjudged bouncing ball in the box, allowing Andrew Driver to hook home and give Hearts a 2-0 win in March last year.

Yves Ma-Kalambay
Fumbled Andrius Velicka header in the first half yesterday, allowing ball to cross the line for the only goal of the game.


How they played
HEARTS

6
Steve Banks
Hardly had a save to make in what was a comfortable win. But coped very well with what little he had to do.

6
Robbie Neilson
Fairly routine day at the office for the club's longest-serving and most dependable player. Carried out duties well.

7
Christos Karipidis
Greek had quieter afternoon than he could have hoped for, dealing well with what little the opposition could muster.

6
Christophe Berra
Flick on from Driver corner found Velicka for the opener. Impressed in makeshift central defence with Karipidis.

7
Jose Goncalves
Looked to have his work cut out containing the live-wire Morais but did extremely well and seemed to relish battle.

8
Eggert Jonsson
Talented Icelandic youngster was in a different class, carrying out his defensive duties and moving ball around.

8
Michael Stewart
Intelligent player proved difficult to pick up outside the box first half. Sick on pitch and taken off after 63 minutes.

7
Ruben Palazuelos
Surprisingly hauled off having proved a key player in Hearts' effective midfield formation. Man of the Match contender.

8
Andrew Driver
His corner found Berra and his flick was met by Velicka for opener. Was allowed to roam in free role, causing problems.

7
Andrius Velicka
This class act was the difference between the clubs when he grabbed opener after 19 minutes – and always a threat.

7
Deividas Cesnauskis
Excellent first half – controlled, composed and always a danger. Fell out of things second period and was subbed.

7
Substitutes: Lee Wallace (for Stewart, 65) Brought on in second half in switch to replace sick team-mate. 6; Saulius Mikoliunas (for Cesnauskis, 70) Brought on while Hibs were enjoying their best spell of second half, but missed glorious chance to kill game in dying minutes. 6; Christian Nade (for Palazuelos, 81) Seamlessly slipped into the fray. 6

HIBERNIAN

4
Yves Ma-Kalambay
Joins past Gorgie offenders Malkowski and McNeil in hall of shame after fumbling ball just over the line. Criminal.

4
Kevin McCann
Youngster was mightily relieved to see his late interception stay out of his own goal, and found it tough going on the whole.

5
Chris Hogg
Struggled with skipper to marshal opposition. Perhaps lucky with Velicka penalty shout that went his way.

5
Rob Jones
Not as much threat as expected from set-pieces and found it tough containing Hearts' frontline for most part.

5
Ian Murray
Pitched in less than 24 hours after signing, Hibs' most experienced derby competitor had mixed fortunes on his return.

6
Filipe Morais
Far and away his side's biggest threat, but didn't get in enough telling crosses due to stubborn defending of Goncalves.

7
Brian Kerr
Like the team-mates around him, failed to take responsibility. Manager will expect a lot more than he offered here.

5
Guillaume Beuzelin
Bossed game for all too brief period in second half before fading out. Has had many more effective games than this.

6
Merouane Zemmama
Replaced by Rankin midway through second half. Another one who failed to take game by the scruff of the neck.

5
Abdessalam Benjelloun
Hot and cold Moroccan wasn't at the races. Squandered a great opportunity and was hauled off at half time.

4
Dean Shiels
Suffered in front of a Hibs midfield who failed to keep the ball and create chances, while persisting with over-hit high balls.

5
Substitutes: Steven Fletcher (for Benjelloun, 45) Lacking in match practice and it showed. 5; John Rankin (for Zemmama, 68) Could have had an immediate impact on the game when he delivered a great free-kick to Hogg only for Banks to save. 5; Damon Gray (for Morais, 81) Brought on with Hibs chasing the game, and failed to make an impact. 5

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1

badger,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 01:48:39
I'd like to know mixu 6-2 thoughts on the result. I'd also like to ask those other hobo administration mongers what they think????
2

Jambo man ,

a clean place 20/01/2008 01:57:19
Comfortable win for the jambos and well deserved. We pounded them until we scored, and then sat back and waited for a reply, which never came. Heard a guy on the radio afterwards saying that hibs played all the football. Just how deluded are these people with their coments on "free flowing , attac minded , silky flair football" if they think they played well in this game, this probaley explains why they think they're such a good team. I personally think it's a coping mechanism which helps them deal with the fact that even during thier best spell in recent years (under mowberry) we still managed to pump four goals passed them on a regular basis. No wander they're bitter. Go on the JTs.
3

JamboG,

Florida 20/01/2008 02:00:21
Goncalves relished the battle? His attempts at trying to play his way out of trouble were chaotic! More than once I thought he was about to drop us right in it! He's not the player he looked when we first signed him. I see Bednar scored again too...how come he's not permanently injured at West Brom???

Good games for Palazuelos and Chesney though.

Revival starts here!!! Maybe...
4

badger,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 02:16:11
Hose had his worst game in a hearts shirt. Stewart was not much better either. Hose did play a bit better in the 2nd half but was still wayward. 3 points made it so much sweeter but we were pish. However, not as pish as them! If thats all they have then just as well Gretna are so much worse.
5

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 20/01/2008 05:42:58
Funny how all at the match and watching tv view a different match. To start with it was a win and we needed one badly. If asked to take a 1-0 win yesterday morning we would have taken it. I thought Goncalves did some ok stuff and some a bit frightening, thought he tried to be to clever in clearing sometimes, when he should have been hitting ball away. I thought Stewart had a good game despite his being ill. For me best players for Jambos were Palazeulos, Karipidis, Velicka, who some say is lazy but worked tirelessly as usual, and man of the match Ma-Kalambay, I had to put that in lol.
6

North sea tiger,

guess ? 20/01/2008 06:20:52
hearts victory for the way they defended, woeful lack of imagination from hibs in the last third, another typical clanger from keeper, not an attractive game to watch, frustrating at most, hope the next 1 at er is a better spectacle which these 2 teams can provide, give mixu time to settle the squad & give frail the job as full time manager at tc.

the 2 edinb. teams need to pull their sox up and start to chase the form they had previously or were in for a torrid time............
7

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20/01/2008 06:41:09
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Robert Bonaly,

East Lothian 20/01/2008 08:04:24
Stewart and Driver an 8 rating and Palazuelos a 7 - are having a laugh or what game were you at Mr Smith ??
Both the former deserve no more than 6 and Ruben must be a minimum of 8. How can you say on the one hand he is a man of match contendor and then give him a 7 - go figure !!!
9

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 20/01/2008 08:38:44
Derby spoils settled in the usual way then. MaCalamity gifts the goal to Hearts and it's honours even in the points league.

Hibs won 1 drawn 1 lost 1
Hearts won 1 drawn 1 lost 1

Seems the goalkeeping calamities are catching at Sunderland again with the second goal for Spurs going right through Gordons body.

McGregor for Scotland anyone?
10

Phil C,

20/01/2008 08:40:35
A deserved gift of a win. At least Hearts didn't steal any points this time! Hibs must be the most generous lads in the country to derby rivals, and do we ever get a thank you?

Both teams were rubbish yesterday, but once again the Jambos give themselves a smug pat on the back, when a rolling up of the sleeves might be more suitable. Beatings the once mighty Hibees just now is sadly not an achievement while it's difficult to find anything right in the Tiny team's set-up! Both teams need to get their acts together quickly. Mixu should find things easier to fix.
11

IanfaeClerrie,

Denholm 20/01/2008 09:02:58
OK it's a pity he had his clanger in this game but if it's what is needed to get rid of big Yves who has been inconsistent, unpredictable and shaky all season then OK -- no please get rid of him. I am sick of waiting for him to 'fulfill his potential'.
12

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 20/01/2008 09:22:18
11*

You are not the only side with goal keeping problems. I think the Jambos have had theirs too. Kurkis slip up against Rangers was worse than Ma-Kalambay and the one lost against Celtic by Basso has to be considered a bloomer.

9*

All keepers make mistakes, and Gordon is the man with Scottish jersey, has he ever let Scotland down.
13

VirgilHiltz,

20/01/2008 09:41:03
Ratings are indeed slighlty biased in our Favour.
I thought the Hobos were much the better side.
If we are to propel ourselves out of the relegation battle then we need to get rid of the dross.

To give Mikey an 7 is indeed emabarrsing Mr Smith.
14

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 20/01/2008 09:43:56
#12

Don't think he has had many bloomers in a Scotland jersey. It's just that I think he is having a bit of a crisis at the moment and his sharpness has gone a bit. It might give him a kick up the bahookie if we give McGregor a chance to see what he can do.
15

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 09:51:26
Speaking of player markings, I'd like to see markings for the referee and assistants yesterday. I thought Clark was terrible. The Velicka penalty incident is a case in point.
Anyway, 3 points forthe team that Hibs fans were telling us all would be administration lastweek. Good start. Must lok to improve, and to play for 90 minutes.
16

carrottop,

20/01/2008 09:55:41
Lets not get carried away, it was only Hibs, will have to wait until we play a big team to get a true reflection on our improvement.
17

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 20/01/2008 10:16:08
This might come over all wrong, I had a feeling we would scrape this one, but I never imagined Hibs would be so poor and we would set out in the second half to defend the one goal lead we had.
That made for the most dire 45mins I've seen in a long time at a derby.
Shaggy just continues to baffle me. If it was not a tactic to sit back in the second half I apologise, but that's exactly what we did. Then to take off the outstanding guy on the park (Palazuelos) geggared belief. Also baffling to me was, how Goncalves completed the game. He was very poor and should have been hooked.
Hibs, as I said, were very poor indeed, the long ball forward to their "striker"or the odd free kick into the box, were the only threats. I can't remembering them cutting us open once.
18

c mains hibby,

edinburgh 20/01/2008 10:19:36
I see that the 3 points Hearts achieved over Hibs pushes them up to third , third bottom that is lol,lol ha,ha,ha.
19

NYC Hibee,

edinburgh 20/01/2008 10:27:32
The scoreline flattered Hearts but we could have played all day without scoring.
We need to find someone to create openings from midfield. We should have won convincingly against a very poor Hearts team. The loss of so many good players is starting to cost us big time.
20

2nd April 2006,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 10:28:06
I'd like to object to the 'JEEPERS KEEPERS' section in this article. Zibi Malkowski was responsible for several other great Hearts moments, not least Paul Hartley's second and Edgaras Jankauskas's goals in the greatest semi-final of all time.

Zibi Malkowski: Hearts legend.

Ma-Calamity has a long way to go.
21

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

20/01/2008 10:32:14
A very poor game but,if the hibs fans think they've turned a corner then they are in for a hard time! That has to be the worst 2nd half i have ever witnessed. It can be very tiresome putting these weeteamers in their place but I don't think I'll get bored of it!! I'm just waiting on the comments of "Debt" imploding on this place by little weeteamers who have been in Hearts shadow since 1875!!
22

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

20/01/2008 10:34:46
#20 The scoreline flatters Hearts?? You lot should have ben 3 or 4 goals down in the first half. Turned a corner?? Welcome back to reality that Hibs are and have always been Edinburgh's weeteam!!
23

just a jambo,

20/01/2008 10:50:39
mixu pantyliner what a signing ha ha ha ha ha haha ha
24

victor ian,

20/01/2008 10:57:39
see their cartoon keeper has denied that he made any mistake at all. interesting.

you can tell he's been spending time with the hobo fans based on that. he's picked up the uncanny knack of arguing that black is white, left is right, north is south.

it wont be long until the peasants are in their rightful place, looking up at hearts.

25

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

20/01/2008 11:01:55
only one story regarding hibs keeping up their worst derby record in Europe!! What a surprise!! Can't wait to read David i love edinburgh's weeteam excuses on how they turned a corner last week and look at them now? PMSL!!
26

All Laugh Son,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 11:07:45
Surely there is some mistake here - Hibs were going to give Hearts a doing and prove they are/always have been Edinburgh's finest team? Surely Mixu6-2 is around to explain that there is some awful mistake here.

GIRUYHF
27

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 11:21:54
I was enjoying readin these comments, sensible for a change.

That was until I got to comment 20....

The Scoreline "flattered" Hearts he said!!!!

If you actually believe that then you are more deluded than I had assumed. To be honest, despite the derision of Makalamby, he made 2 or 3 fine save in the first half which stopped the game becoming a rout!! A TOTAL DESTRUCTION.

If you include the BLATANT PENALTY that Hearts were not awarded it could QUITE EASILY have been 4 nil to Hearts by Half time.

Now, this is why I had a problem with the idiot in #20 saying the scoreline "flattered Hearts" and with the couple of paragraphs I have typed I believe that any reasonable person who saw the game, Jambo or Hibee, could not fail to agree that in ACTUAL FACT the scoreline actually flattered HIBS.

28

Jambo-ree,

20/01/2008 11:30:19
Pretty poor game - patchy performance - sweet result!

Anyone know who Hibs' game in hand is against - I'd guess Motherwell from the league table?

#28 - Agree that their keeper's stop from Palazuelos was excellent. I was out my seat with that one! Pity we sat back in the second half - made for a very long 48 minutes
29

busbyfh,

20/01/2008 11:46:33
# 3

In answer .... The owner of his "new" club has as yet not walloped Bednar in the stomach in front of the whole squad while wearing boxing gloves - maybe that is why he is not "injured" every week.
Vlad cannot take all the blame about Bednar though , as long before the "boxing incident" (that surely embarrassed Bednar)the Czech appeared overweight , off form and at times lazy.A great shame...... as YET another case of us recently having a greatly a promising youngster gone down the tubes.

Talk about having all the cards stacked though....
If Bednar is on a six month loan - Vlad now says "send him back or buy him now". (WBA top of their league and Bednar scoring every week cannot refuse to pay top dollar.
If it is a year loan - Vlad says "make me an offer right now as Bednar's scoring is being noticed by everybody and I will sell him to the highest bidder in May" - Basically buy him now while he has peaked and the price is at an optimum.
The only way Vlad can lose is if Bednar's form goes down hill from now until May when negotiations start.
Vlad's not that daft.Sell now Vlad at the present peak......and get us Billie Davies with a small part of the money.
30

Riley Hamish,

Edina 20/01/2008 11:48:26
My first ever Edinburgh derby. Disappointing standard in my view, but Hearts JUST deserved the win....but only because Hibs could be playing till TODAY and still never look like scoring. Not a good time for Edinburgh footie I'll warrant. Both teams just need to buckle down, write off this season (unless a cup miracle happens) and getrid of as much dead wood as they can.........Hearts easily need the more pruning.....Hibs could do with buying in some decent experience, and turning down the speed of the conveyor belt, since a good deal of the £11M gained needs to go straight back in........but I'm sad to say that the OF won't be quaking in their boots anytime soon when they watch the video of this one.
31

busbyfh,

20/01/2008 11:59:05
Goncalves played better than Robbie.
Stewart was joint best player.
Andy Driver was joint best player
What game was this reporter at ?????????????
Stick to subbuteo pal - you cannot read football - Mind you - are you a FFFHibee ?

Three times yesterday the snarling , twisted , contorted "pussed" idiot that is Kenny Clarke gave free kicks against us for players diving. All wrong as the replays showed. The ar5eholes on Setanta said the ref was right even AFTER proved wrong by replaying the incidents.I really would like to have a word with the mincing Scott Booth.(Andy Walker was never as bad)
32

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 20/01/2008 12:13:08
*28

I've come to the conclusion that every time one of our Lithuanian playersr hit the deck they will be accused of diving. Cesnauskis was accused too after his ankle had been clipped. I am sure if you have your hands are on someone's back and you shove him forward that is a push.

As for Bednar is he any better than Vellicca, would the new Bednar and Vellicca gel. I don't know. Would Bednar like to be Vellicca's understudy, doubt it. Take the money when offered and run.
33

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 12:37:31
Probably one of the worst Edinburgh derbies in recent years, took me back to the times where we had all the 0-0 1-1 draws. Any hobo remotely thinking we just edged it or the scoreline "Flattered" hearts needs their head lookin at. We could have and should have been 3 or 4 up at half time, Yves Macalamity for all his failings at our eventual goal did actually save hibs from a thrashing, that combined with that joke of a referee Kenny Clark saved them from another demolition derby.

Players wise i thought Jose didnt play to badly, ill admit my heart was in my mouth a couple of times when he tried to play the ball out of defence when a good old fashioned punt up the pitch would have been the better option. Chessy and rubens i thought were 2 of the best players on the park certainly in the first half, robbie well not much to say there its robbie. Velicka has to stay he is class, one of the few strikers we have had in recent terms you could class as a penalty box striker, he knows how to score, and i think a sustained run in the team and another striker plating alonside him would be of even more benefit, playing as a lone striker is difficult and 9 times out of 10 you run out of steam 3/4 of the way through the game. Tactically i think shaggy just edged it, how arrogant was mixu pantyliner to come to tynecastle and play a 4-3-3, this alone shows his tactical inability and inexperience.

As for the hobos Zemmama,Morias,Benji all cheats people have a go at our lithuanian players for diving, they need to start looking closely at those 3, either that or the hearts defence must have a bad case of halitosis as they only needed to breath on either of those 3 and they went down quicker than a pro.Rob jones is an animal i dont think theres a hearts shirt he didnt pull yesterday or a player he didnt wrestle with, maybe he's just trying to be friendly.

I didnt like the sitting back in the second half whether it was tactics or not, givin recent results and losing later goals
34

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 12:40:15
Cont.......

I didnt like the sitting back in the second half whether it was tactics or not, givin recent results and losing later goals it was worrying, it also made the game a complete non spectacle, however i suppose when your confidence is as low as the players must have been it can be a natural instinct to protect what you have, especially when the other team have nothing to offer.

Overall a good win and a much needed win, it didnt matter who were playing yesterday we needed a win to start putting some confidence back in the team, the fact it was against the vermin made it all the more sweeter and will boost that confidence a little more
35

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

20/01/2008 12:40:49
i thought an own goal was going to fly in aswell at the end of the match, can't mind who it was but keeper was rooted. We still had chances, mikos header was tame, should have scored it. Ruben had a deflected raker which was well saved and jonsson had a close save so considering all of that 1-0 definately was flattering to Hibs.
Who cares anyway sour grapes from the Hobos and a bit of piece and quiet from the usual braindead trumpets for the next few days. Wait until Tuesday, then they will start appearing from under there rocks with the usual crap excuses
36

Silence of the Yams,

20/01/2008 12:49:11
The 'mini huns' mugged Hibs. Yes, mini huns! We all saw the UJ's and red hand salutes. Hertz need to purge these clowns.

Mixu, get rid of Makalmity. And...Kerr, McCann, Jones, plus all those donkey's Collins signed.
37

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 12:53:57
#39
Muppet of the highest degree.....Only a bitter twisted bigotted muppet could make a comment like that in the first place...now jog on son your kind are never welcome...

Oh by the way.....hibs are sh1te...looking more like a 1st division team each week...cya idiot
38

Phil C,

20/01/2008 12:54:42
The Jambos on here just don't get it. Every season Hibs give Hearts bucketloads of undeserved points and Cups on a plate. Is it not obvious to even the dimmest of Jambos that we Hibees are just generous to a fault. The goals that are gifted are meant. They are charitable donations. How else do you explain the circus antics of our goalies? Even in games we have edged the referee seems always to have done us favours. It hurts the supporters but hey, we can take it. We don't want Hearts to go out of business.

Your arrogant and misplaced air of superiority however is putting that giving side to the test. So a bit of gratitude would not go amiss. Otherwise we will be forced to go back to pumelling you at every opportunity!
39

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 12:54:43
#39

I am a Scottish nationalist but I respect anyones right to bring a Union Flag if they so please, after all I don't mind that Hibs fans brought the Irish Tro-colour.

I am also willing to forgive the throat slitting gestures made by the Hibs fans and the vile songs sung about the late Wallace Mercer.

Perhaps you would be willing to acknowladge that there are equal number of undesirables in the Hibernian support?

It would perhaps validate your incredibly niave and one sided rant (I should say desperate too seeing as how you team got cuffed again)
40

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 12:56:31
#41

I like how you conveniantly forget the referee!!

Who turned down a stone-waller when Velicka was hacked in the box by the Hibes defender!

That was nothing to do with your GOALIE!!

Sour sour grapes from you.

ps, we DESERVED to beat you by more goals yesterday!
41

Cabbage Heid,

doon the smoke 20/01/2008 12:59:09
Not much in this game - both between the teams and in terms of good football.
Maka's reactions were poor to gift the Yams their winner. Hibs piled on the pressure thereafter but the Hertz defended well and with neither Benji or Fletch apparently firing on all cylinders there was no way through for Hibs.
However, as a Hibby I'm not too peeved as the performance was much improved on recent games (St. Mirren, Huns, Kille). Even if we lacked a cutting edge at least the players showed some fight and pride in the jersey. Keep that up and we'll start picking the points up again.
42

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 13:00:40
ps, Phil.

"pumelling you at every opportunity"

Do you know that Hibs would have to win every Derby for the next 10 odd years to even equal Hearts derby record, so I don't see where YOUR arrogance comes from.

Don't make me post the numbers pal.
43

Silence of the Yams,

20/01/2008 13:02:51
#40. If you're 'Gorgies Finest' then that says it all. Total clown.
44

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

20/01/2008 13:07:47
*47* always you eh! cretin "Mini huns mugged" the Hobos
you were obviously tripping out of your tree if that is your take on the 1-0 thumping yesterday.
I feel your pain though, keep on posting
106 in a row, it's magic you know!
45

Cramondo,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 13:07:56
4 Badger (if you are still around)

Let's deal with the important stuff.

"Hose"? I've always called him Jose.

I thought that the Portuguese pronounced it "Jose" as in Mourinho? "Hose" would be Spanish.

But I really don't know for sure. Maybe someone can enlighten us?
46

Phil C,

20/01/2008 13:09:25
#46 That doesn't seem like gratitude to me. I just remember the good old days in the 70's before we started being nice to you!
47

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 13:10:20
#47
Im not the biggot...i think you showed yourself up for what you really are...a small minded bitter and twisted little man, who clearly has sectarian/bigotted issues. Now as i said jog on muppet
48

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 13:14:05
Hearts -128 wins
Hibs - 83 Wins
Draws - 83

This only counts competative matches the stats get worse for hibs if you want to count friendlies as well.
49

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 13:14:51
#51

Are you sure? Are the Hibees not feeling bad enough today??

Ok, Derby wins in the League.

Hearts W108
Hibs W64

Draws 74

I won't bother with the stats that also show Hearts have more League and Scottish cup wins also.

Enjoy.
50

Jambo Number 1,

20/01/2008 13:15:34
#53

my freind included cup games.
51

Phil C,

20/01/2008 13:16:13
#53 Proves my point. We've been far too generous and it has to stop!
52

busbyfh,

20/01/2008 13:18:21
# 39
Yes UJ's - I note you forget to mention the Irish tricolours.
Lets not kid ourselves - these two types of flags are taken to derby matches for set reasons. One being to aid in causing grief and trouble.
Both sets of troglodytes require eradication.
53

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 13:19:41
#56
we returned the generosity by allowing you to win 83 games.
And givin if it was not for HMFC you wouldnt be playing football in the first place, since Celtic wanted you removed from the scottish league in 1928 and we petitioned on your behalf i think you have a lot to be gratefull to us for dont you think.... :-)
54

busbyfh,

20/01/2008 13:20:12
# 44

"Piled on the pressure" - What planet are you from ?
55

Libby Hibby,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 13:22:36
Journalists have had their cheap headline paraphrasing the goalkeeper’s name and their ‘Hibs goalie howler’ files at the ready all season waiting for his first significant blunder in one of the ‘big’ games. A bit frustrating for them that he acquitted himself pretty well in his previous five games against Hearts and the OF, but now here they are to give a totally slanted view of his part in yesterday’s defeat. No mention that his defence gave him little protection from a powerful header at point blank range, and only passing reference to an absolutely thrilling stop by the young keeper shortly before the goal.
The majority of SPL keepers have been making horrendous blunders all season, and yesterday’s fumble by MaKalambay is far from the worst of them. Take a look at the goals scored in the Premiership and Championship yesterday, and you can pick out at least a dozen goalkeeping errors that were as bad or worse, including a rather poor effort by Craig Gordon.
Ma-Kalambay is NOT the reason we lost this game. The defence gave him poor protection, the midfield is porous and weak, the attack couldn’t shoot its way out of a paper bag right now, with Benji’s airshot being the pick of the bunch.
I’m pleased Paatelainen stuck up for the keeper because he isn’t the problem.
56

Gorgie's Finest,

20/01/2008 13:22:43
#57
Hi Busby, its pointless even trying to debate with a biggot...id just give a wide berth he clearly has issues of his own to sort out first.
57

Silence of the Yams,

20/01/2008 13:23:07
#52. Whatver, Mr mini hun. Was it you making the Nazi salutes? Mini hun clod.
58

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

20/01/2008 13:29:26
good point there Libby, unusual from a Hibby.
Langfield was a moment of comedy class against Utd, i havn't laghed like that, well since Zibi,Mcneil and Zibi again a few times.
Langfield yesterday though was almost as funny as Robinson for Engerland. Almost not quite though!
59

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 13:31:12
#41 Phil C, when exactly did Hibs pummel Hearts at every opportunity?? I have a much more recent 20 in a row DVD so you can stop listening to your around 40 year old tape of the 7-0 game.

A very bad Hearts side can take very little from a win over an even worse Hibs side, Hibs fans shouldn't attempt to take anything out of it.
60

busbyfh,

20/01/2008 13:34:14
# 62

Howdy Finest.......This silence..yams.. bloke writes as if his IQ level struggles to hit the three figure mark. At least # 61 seems civil.

Here is a question for you FFFHibees.......
Everyone watching the game saw what a torrid time Hearts left back was having in the first half - Please tell me what Pantyliner told his players at half time ,as incredibly the FFFHibs players eased off Goncalves in the second half. Why did he not tell them the obvious ????
Thats one we owe you MP
61

mon-the-hertz,

edinburgh 20/01/2008 13:44:23
If the keeper had just missed it all together then he wouldn't be getting criticised now - Hubs defense were more at fault for sure.
What a bore that second half was, wish Larry had been around to add some spark - speaking of which GHANA v GUINEA kicks off the African Cup Of Nations tonight, think it's on BBC.
62

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

20/01/2008 13:44:26
Phil C not sure if i have thanked you lot, but if not then belated big thank you for 2nd April 2006, and the gift of the Scottish Cup.
A surprising "gift" when you go back thrugh the years to see the last time a Hibs team won the thing but thanks all the same!
63

mon-the-hertz,

edinburgh 20/01/2008 13:48:08
In his defense Goncalves must have been doing something right as Morais hardly got any crosses in.
64

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

20/01/2008 13:58:48
#63 I'm delighted you follow the weeteam!! You deserve to have been suffering all your life following that crap!!
65

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

20/01/2008 13:59:54
*68* it's on eurosport starts at 4.45 don't know if it's a cereomony or that first. Be watching though. Is the King fit enough to play?
Hope he gets on anyway although he may come up against the thug Balde worryingly.
Good day for fitty on the box and the highlights of the 6 pointer yesterday :)
66

StockportJambo,

20/01/2008 14:10:48
Ruben should have been a 9 - man of the match by a country mile. Stewart did no better than 4 or 5. As for bomb-scare Goncalves (I'm a left back am I? No, I think I'll ignore that and play centre half...) he should have been hauled off before half-time he was that bad. A 2... and that's being kind because he improved (slightly) in the second half.

Watch the game next time, Mr Smith.
67

Jambo-ree,

20/01/2008 14:18:40
#39 - So what the heck was the big green white and black union flag all about then?
68

badger,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 15:33:37
49 Cramondo

According to the hearts website your spelling is correct. However you must forgive my mistake. It was 2:15am i was a bit tipsy and it looked ok at the time.

Real important stuff indeed!!!
69

No. 5 - Ibrahim Tall,

20/01/2008 15:42:57
Hearts 1 - 0 Light feather-weights..

Get it round you Hobos!
You's went down like a sack of tatties everytime we came near you and where gifted with free-kicks for it all game!

Its a man's sport but according to the referee it's a non-contact sport now..

C'mon the Jambos!

70

mrhibs07,

20/01/2008 16:25:47
#39
That's the CCS flag.
71

Jambo-ree,

20/01/2008 16:31:14
#77 - CCS???
72

mrhibs07,

20/01/2008 16:33:29
#78
Yes.
73

gorgiegobbler,

kaunas 20/01/2008 16:59:07
i would just like to say a big thank you to mickie pospisil , he never set the hay on fire but he always tried his heart out! and he did score the penalty that won us the scottish cup not a lot of hobos can claim that honour! anyway good luck in your new club thank for the good tmes mate .....
74

victor ian,

20/01/2008 17:04:08
a quick review of the thread throws up no surprises for me.

jambos, if you're looking for hobos to stick to the facts, be objective, view things impartially, generally apply common sense, you've got a long, long wait on your hands.

it wont happen.

these folk are utterly desperate. they steadfastly will not admit to anything if it contradicts their own, blinkered, ignorant, bigoted, xenophobic, self important agenda.

i actually feel quite sorry for them, although there are quite a number within their ranks who are sane, sensible, fair minded people. the ones who are not have lost touch with reality on a number of different topics.

hobos, your team is g@sh, it is highly unlikely to get much better. hearts are not going bust, it was a complete fantasy. hearts will absolutely get better, no amount of ill informed mouth foaming will detract form that.

my message to jambos would be to keep with it. we have been through the mill in the last 2 years, no doubt. i still absolutely believe that we can, and will start to see real progress.

it's not going to be overnight. there is no magic 'silver bullet' to bring back the burley days. but if we all just hold out noses and get behind the unconventional owner, we will have a lot to look forward to.

75

victor ian,

20/01/2008 17:30:31
my own personal view of association with, and glorification of hooligan 'organisations' and religious dogma from a completely different and irrelevant country is that it has no place whatsoever with heart of midlothian fc or hibernian fc.

i am completely certain that i am not the only one.

why do these unwanted and irrelevant parasitical diseases still plague the edinburgh clubs?

these are things which are common and accepted by the glasgow clubs supporters, both halves of the edinburgh divide detest these clubs, we all should be better than that, and them.



76

badger,

Edinburgh 20/01/2008 18:14:48
anyone watching the african nations? Larry is having a blinder
77

victor ian,

20/01/2008 19:16:34
saw kingston shaking hands with sepp blatter. i hope kingston counted his fingers afterwards.

didn't see any hobos playing. i think these players are a tad outwith their wage structure.

78

Zambo,

20/01/2008 20:13:48
Wow what a long excruciatingly boring thread.
79

SouthSideHibs,

20/01/2008 21:40:42
Well done Hearts yesterday, brilliant stuff from the Big Team. Should be an interesting run in to the split...

Still no whisper of any signings for the Bog team though and no doubt you'll continue with Stevie Fail to the end of the season now you've humped us again.

That's the planning application in and a derby win, everythings rosey again in Vlad's back garden, wonder when he'll make it over for a game next?
80

Phil C,

20/01/2008 23:43:28
Oh pee off Jambos! We've protected you from annihilation by gifting you results season after season since the 70's! This was out of pity and you don't seem to appreciate it. I remember well when we started giving you games.

You keep going on about your run of draws, interspersed with a few wins, as we tried to save you from extinction. When Hearts do go bust you can join the real footballers and support the Mightees (instead of the Tinyteam). You'll be welcome but you must get over your your misplaced sense of animosity. We have been your chief source of points for twenty years! We are good to you but you are stuck in your own ungrateful timewarp. JTs we love you! Don't wait like chickens for the inevitable egg-breaking and come and join us.
81

manxhibby,

Isle of Man 20/01/2008 23:51:34
To be fair to the big keeper he did bring off a pretty stunning save just before the goal from a deflected shot. We werent closing them down outside the box and Stewart could have played keepy uppy (if he had the skill) before shooting several times. No final pass either - we had all the possession in the second half but either did nothing with it or hearts didnt allow us to - not sure which. boozy was pretty pants again - if hes going to be that inconsistant wats the point of having him. Murray had a steady return i thought. Deano was invisible this week. Hogg was pretty good tho i wish the ball hadnt fallen to him in the penalty box in the second half.

All told not a brilliant Saturday - it would have been interesting with st mirren and gretna winning. But hey life goes on at least with hibs being this bad we'll be in with a chance of a revenge derby in the bottom six.

82

stanton4,

21/01/2008 09:26:19
Victoria you go from producing the worst contribution on the thread.... you didnt even mention the game... to the best contribution within a couple of minutes... more of the latter please.

To be honest I thought Hearts were as poor as I have seen them in 10 years. Unfortunately I thought Hibs were even worse. I cannot believe you sat back, not for the second half, but almost from the minute you scored.... I know you are fragile, but that was stupid. Still it got the result and really that is all that matters

I thought there was some unusula views on here, you are all giving Goncalves pelters, but I can hardly remember Morais producing anything damngerous apart fron the one that Benji should have scored.

I am surprised you want a penalty for the Velicka thing... I thought Hogg had a better shout at the end ...

Lets be honest lads they were both very poor and it is a worry... we are both being shafted by our respective management

I do not blame the big goalie it was point blank.... he might have done better, but that is all you can say.

REf was wrong to book Cesnauskas but he had actulally dived a couple of minutes earlier without punishment so.....

PETRIE MUST GO
83

Sedov,

Scotland 21/01/2008 09:44:00
Hearts ground out a win and the result was all that mattered given our league position. I agree with #93 Stanton that both teams were poor but hibs look to have the bigger problems. They have a light weight sode which Hearts brushed aside and if it hadn't been for the fact that the Jambos were so desperate for a result that they lay back too far in defence and played a safe containing game they would have scored more goals. This meant Hibs did have a lot of the ball but were so light and inept they could do nothing with it.
84

Back-in-the-mixu,

21/01/2008 10:07:16
Congratulations Hearts for another easy victory at Tyncastle. Okay so your goal came from another goalkeeping error and you created little else besides but your tactics worked to perfection once more.

Of course, we Hibs fans demand more of our team when playing at home. We expect to dominate possession and we expect a bit of creativity and flair. But its horses for courses I guess and the current Hearts squad was not assembled to be pleasing on the eye. By packing the midfield on a narrow pitch and sticking to the route one football that has served you so well for years you are tough to beat on those four or five occasions each year when the foreign contingent are as up for it as their Scottish counterparts. So well done Hearts and may you bask in the glory of winning ugly in yet another Tynecastle derby.

From a Hibs perspective if continuing to play an attractive passing game means we are always second favourites at Tyncesatle, so be it. However I'm not sure it does. The balance of the team is far from correct. We are far too inconsistent and far too likely to be posted missing in physical encounters. I'm not blaming Mixu for largely sticking to the team which won so well the week before. I'm not sure what other options he had. I do hope however he has spotted this and will try and bring a few 'winners' in the mould of himself and Frank Sauze to firm things up. Tough ask with Mr Petrie controlling the purse strings but we live in hope.

GGTTH
85

It's me!,

21/01/2008 10:10:00
I've heard some good news. Kenny Clark is retiring at the end of the season. That will save the cost of another anger management course for a so called grade 1 referee.

 

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