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Published Date: 28 June 2009
IT IS approaching 'make up your mind time'. Either, do you want to drift towards something which is indistinguishable from a separate Scottish state? Or, do you wish to remain part of the United Kingdom? It's soon going to be what in reality it always was – one or the other.
Predictably and predicted, foreseeably and foreseen, by me, George Cunningham, and indeed Enoch Powell, during the Commons debates of 1977–79, a Scottish Parliament, once established, is going to ask for more and more, and will remain discontented un
til such time it has got it. It is in the very nature of parliamentarians to demand more powers and financial resources for the institutions in which they find themselves. It is absolutely par for the course that the parties – Labour, Liberal and Conservative – should have endorsed the Calman report before they can possibly have had time to read, let alone digest, Calman's tome and recommendations.

Have the parties, I wonder, really reflected on Calman's central proposal in relation to, understandably, wanting to make the Scottish Parliament responsible for raising a substantial proportion of its own revenue?

At best, disentangling the UK tax regime would be an expensive nightmare. At worst, would be an impossible task. M' learned friends would have a whale of a time, arguing about whether their client, proverbially hopping between Scotland and England, would be better off under one jurisdiction rather than another. When I was president of the Scottish Council for Development and Industry, I was advised that business thought that a half-and-half tax regime would be the worst of all possible worlds.

This goes to the heart of what I think about parliament. Its members are overwhelmingly, in my view, decent, hard-working men and women. They were ridiculously and cruelly lampooned by sections of the Scottish press – though not by Scotland on Sunday. But, like politicians the world over, they want more and more. So I think that in any referendum – and referendum there will surely have to be – the question ought to be posed: "Do you wish the Scottish Parliament to remain in existence, in the knowledge that sooner rather than later such a situation will inevitably lead to the break up of the United Kingdom?" Whistling in the wind? Probably. The Scottish political class, who have a huge vested interest in Holyrood, would certainly not welcome such a question being posed. But they ought to.

My problem with the parliament is to identify what it has actually achieved other than something that would have been achieved anyway (such as a ban on smoking in public places) and what has been possible such as policy on long-term care or student fees, which depends on Scotland having a higher proportion of per capita spending from the UK Treasury. This advantage is soon going to come to an end whoever wins the next Westminster election. One situation bothers me hugely – the financial cutbacks on all UK universities, the Scottish universities being further disadvantaged in relation to English universities.

And here we come to the costs of a parliament themselves. The running costs for MSPs and ministers are not cheap. I harbour a few grievances – the chief among them was Donald Dewar going to the Today programme and saying: "Tam Dalyell is wicked and alarmist in saying that the Scottish Parliament will cost a penny more than £40 million." It ended up at £440 million-plus.

After ten years, I would revert to the regions. My former constituents were never better served than by Lothian regional council. Strathclyde was becoming a great success – ask the people in the Islands. Most people in Grampian want their lives run from Aberdeen, not Edinburgh. But above all the existence of a Parliament will take us down a road that many, maybe not a majority, do not wish to travel.

• Tam Dalyell was Labour MP for Linlithgow (formerly the constituency of West Lothian) from 1962-2005.











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  • Last Updated: 27 June 2009 7:07 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 28/06/2009 02:19:17
This is out of touch with reality.

'Tis the people who want more representative government, as opposed to politicians "demanding more resources".

If the people decide through a referendum that they wish to oppose independence, but gain further powers from Westminster (FOR NOW,) then so be it. If in ten or fifteen years time they want full independence, then that's fine too.

You are showing disrespect for the people of Scotland with these comments. An entirely predictable Westminster trait.
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donald,

glasgow 28/06/2009 09:30:48
Devolution was the slippery slope for the slimy London Labour Government's delaying tactics to Independence. The pygmies were in good company with Professor Enoch Powell, who did not share Labour's numpytness.
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mr broon,

Edinburgh 28/06/2009 10:28:48
Tam is being overly pessimistic?

Since the Union, Scotland has always been a unique, yet dormant, State within a State.

Its whole-hearted commitment to the Union died in the post-War period, and the unlikely Mother-of-the-Nation:
Margaret Thatcher, just hurried the process towards
convincing the population that they needed some alternative to a centralised, monolithic, British State which took no account of their Scottish identity.

It is highly unlikely that the Scots would ever break from the United Kingdom. Why should the Scots make a clean break when they can now have the best of both worlds!

However, the Scot Nats are here to stay and any Unionists who actually believe they will soon disappear like "snaw aff a dyke" are deceiving themselves. The Scots Tories, through their own stupidity, created the groundswell for another major political party in Scotland and, like the other Unionist parties, will just have to suffer the consequences.

In the years to come, when Scotland will still be a committed part of the UK, depending on the make-up of the Westminster Parliament, don't be in the least surprised to see the Nationalists forming coalitions with one of the Unionist parties at Holyrood.

The Nationalists will not always be in government and will also make a formidable Opposition in the Scottish Parliament, as was shown prior to their 2007 victory.
4

Galletlysouth,

London 28/06/2009 13:31:22
AndrewBOD. The implication of your view is that the Scots can have any constitutional relationship with the United Kingdom they choose, without regard to the views of the other nations of the Union (rather disrespectful in itself). Not so. Only the choice of independence is entirely a matter for the Scots. I do hope you will take it, and soon.
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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 28/06/2009 23:40:37
5 Galletlysouth

You're right. I'm afraid it's not just a "matter for Scots" but for all of the peoples of Scotland. My English colleague also wants independence for Scotland and doesn't intend moving back to England. Be careful what you say about race.
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Terence H,

England 29/06/2009 10:50:30
#6 Andrew. I think Galleysouth was referring to "Scots" as those who live in(and identify with) Scotland, rather than a separate race (which they're not).

I also think he has a fair point in that Scotland's place within the UK is a matter for the whole of the UK: whereas Scotland's desire to stay in the UK is a matter exclusive to Scotland.

Having said that, a majority of people in England (including me) would like to see Scotland independent, but it's none of our business.

 

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