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Under-fire Hadden fails to bite the bullet as Gatland guns for dismal Scottish gameplan



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Published Date: 10 February 2008
HAVING watched his team demolish the Scots on the field Warren Gatland, the Welsh coach, dismantled the visitors off it with some strong and, you have to say, wholly justified comments on the rank awfulness of Frank Hadden's stultifyingly negative and creatively bankrupt gameplan.
"There was only one team trying to play rugby out there," said the Kiwi, and just in case anybody was in any doubt, he spelled it out for us: "It was the team in red. Apart from a couple of minutes near the end Scotland never got near our line."

Gatland gave Hadden a verbal shoeing, just as his counterpart in France, Marc Lievremont, did last week and it was richly deserved. He spoke of the miniscule threat the Scots possessed. "They made it pretty easy for us. They were just picking and going off the rucks and never threw the ball wide and never threatened us. They never put us under any pressure at all." Gatland looked half-bemused by it all. Asked if he thought Scotland were harshly treated by the television match official (TMO), Carlo DaMasco, who incorrectly awarded Wales their third try – and Shane Williams his second – Gatland responded with a shrug and a grin and a remark that spoke volumes about his thoughts on how Scotland performed on the day. "To be honest, I don't really feel sorry for Scotland."

The Scottish coach had some explaining to do but he's a rugby man not an escapologist and wriggling his way out of this was never on the cards. We just hoped that Hadden wouldn't go down a well-trodden path of finding excuses. Alas, after about 10 seconds of his introductory remarks he was in full flow, citing DaMasco as a key force and harping back to Twickenham last season when another TMO decision went against his side.

Hadden suggested that the game was still there to be won before Williams' controversial score in the 68th minute. In theory, it was. Scotland trailed by just five points, after all. But Hadden was fooling himself if he thought it was a decisive moment. If the visitors possessed one ounce of attacking threat beyond Chris Paterson's boot you might have agreed with him. But they didn't and Hadden's suggestion that the game was still there for the taking was risible.

He blamed the TMO, he complained about the short preparation time (guess what, Frank, there are no more hours in the day in Wales than there are in Scotland) and then singled out John Barclay, saying he had been out-classed by Martyn Williams. Indeed he had, but why draw attention to it when so many Scots were out-played, why make the kid feel any worse than he already did? It was crass and unnecessary.

The reaction to Gatland's wounding words was not Hadden's finest moment. "Praise indeed," he said of the Kiwi's criticism. "It's not our job to entertain the crowd. We knew what we had to do and we tried to do it and had we held on to the ball we might have found ourselves in a better position." This is Frank's line, laughable as it is, and he's sticking to it.

How sad it all was yesterday. This Scotland team is better than their performances suggest. They are playing an awfully long way short of their optimum – with the exception of Jason White whose mighty powers have deserted him and whose place in the team must now be questioned. Much like Hadden's ability to lift his men out of their slump.

Scotland played conservative, plodding rugby and they played it badly. Hadden can't be held wholly responsible for the gamut of errors – the spilled ball count was astronomical – but it was his gameplan yesterday and, as Gatland remarked, it was all to do with forward drives up the middle and field position and Chris Paterson's boot. It was a yawn fest in blue. And when the errors started coming – that took two minutes when the opening Scottish lineout was ballooned out the back and seized on by Martyn Williams – it got ugly.

Preying on Wales's poor discipline brought them 15 points from penalties but it was never going to bring them victory, not when Wales had the ambition to go for tries, claiming three. Well, two good ones and a dodgy one that didn't have the impact on the game Hadden claimed it did.

Wales were no great shakes, a point firmly made by Gatland and his assistants in the aftermath. Indeed, for the first hour they were as lacking in inspiration and accuracy as the Scots but there was a key difference; Wales came to win, Scotland came to keep the score down. This is becoming a theme in the Hadden era. Know how many tries Hadden's team have scored in their last five Test matches? One. A scrambling, ugly effort for Chris Cusiter at the fag-end of the World Cup defeat to Argentina. One try in five Tests. It's one try in six games if you don't count the facile victories over Portugal and Romania in the World Cup.

Hadden is aware of the problem but has he any clue how to find the solution? He's got three games left, two of them away from home. We are fast approaching a time when some bold decisions on the future direction of this team are going to have to be made.





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1

billymac,

Ireland 10/02/2008 00:14:50
If Hadden doesn't make any change at 10 for the next game, he should be asked to step aside. He's is obviously living in a parallel universe where Scotland are a great rugby nation rather than a side sliding inexorably towards the second division (maybe third) of world rugby. There are some good enough players in the team but they're not being used properly and the tactics are criminal!
2

thebigiam,

london 10/02/2008 00:51:32
That was just horrible. We played 10-man rugby, extremely badly. The game plan seemed to be for a forward to run the ball 3 yards, take ages to recycle it, run the ball 2 yards, take ages to recycle it and then kick away possession.

Considering that is our biggest pack ever, they were awful at the breakdown. Hogg added something, and the rest of the pack responded. But a lightweight Wales pack bested us all afternoon.

I'm loathe to say the backs are rubbish, because in all fairness, they hardly saw the ball. Tackling wasn't all that special though.

Parks may be a world class kicker from hand - but he isn't playing like it at the moment. Is there ever one other international 10 who has a kick charged down every game?

Time for a new game plan (well, a game plan) and surely some personnel changes for the Ireland match.
3

Dunger,

Doon Sooth 10/02/2008 07:35:31
Is there not anyone better in Scottish rugby than Dan "Aw talk and nae action" Parks, Heidbutt Henderson and De "I love tae drop the baw" Luca?

All I've heard/read aboot before this 2008 campaign got underway was how Scotland had a real chance this year and how they were gonna do this and that. De Luca is rare for Edinburgh, Darks is even mair rare for Glasgow, etc.

Until the 3 mentioned are replaced with folk who can create a chance, break the line, catch a ball and distribute players into space then Scotland areny going anywhere fast. It's that simple.

Maybe Scotland is going through a dry patch now regards those 3 positions. If that is the best we have got, then we gotta wake up smell the Scottish Cheddar and say - "Would you like tae eat ma porridge today with a Wooden Spoon?"

Honestly, living down South and having tae watch this poor stuff oan the TV is murder and the fact every team we play against has lady luck sitting oan their shoulder isny helping matters either.

Nuff said.
4

inoui,

Bordeaux 10/02/2008 07:55:54
The whole organisation needs a kick in the ass!
5

Stephen101,

Pathetic 10/02/2008 08:16:53
Hadden is totally out of his depth. Ackford and Gatland are saying it as it is. Most posters on here are preoccupied with tinkering with what players should be in or out, but that is all for nothing as long as Hadden stays.

Plodding team, plodding manager.

Please Frank, back to teaching.
6

leemagee,

Perth, Australia 10/02/2008 08:59:34
The problem with Hadden is that he was credited when Scotland beat France and England 2 years ago. Before the Williams era, Scotland probably ranked 6 out of 10. During the Williams era they fell to 1 out of ten. When Hadden took over, they ranked 5 out of 10...an improvement yes, but we were still poor. When we beat France in 2005, we did it through good forward play, inventive back play and a pot load of fortune. France were caught cold but, those of you who watched the game will recall how they came back from the depths to give us a scare towards the end. Against England we defended like tackling pros and also had a fair amount of fortune...remember Cohen dropping the ball a few feet from the line?? Those games showed how Scotland can win games by getting the basics right and not making stupid errors, not to mention the opposition not playing too well.
Hadden seems to be happy asking the forwards to ruck and maul and the backs to tackle. This is what you do in the last five minutes of a game when you are trying to run the clock down...it's not what you do to win games.
Enough of the De Luca battering. He got his first 2 caps when the entire squad have been playing poorly. Any coach with sense would have given him his first cap with 20 minutes left of the France match to ease him into it, you know, kill the nerves. Now he will be more nervous with every game he plays.
Hadden also plays Rory Lamont at 15, even though he has been in devasting form on the wing for Sale. Then there's Strokosch. Last month there was no one in the Premiership who played better...yet he still can't make the Scotland squad.
Dan Parks shouldn't be blamed. It's not his fault he is an average player...it's Hadden's fault for always picking him. Hadden has a rolling contract so his vision only goes 12 months at a time now. Parks won't be our 10 at the next work cup as he'll be too old. Why play him then? Why not blood David Blair or give Godman more time? They are the f
7

leemagee,

10/02/2008 09:00:42
Continued
They are the future 10's and one of them will likely be pulling the strings in New Zealand.
For the first time in a while I was ashamed of the Scotland team yesterday. Professional players shouldn't be spilling the ball or loosing turnovers at such a rate. What has Hadden been doing with the coaching sessions over the past 3 weeks? Go back to Merchiston mate...you day is over!!
8

Ramage,

Perth Australia 10/02/2008 09:14:14
HADDEN IS BECOMING THE CLOWN OF WORLD RUGBY WITH HIS PATHETIC SPIN AND WHINING
9

Mac1975,

Aberdeen 10/02/2008 09:32:53
Hadden is an edjit - i have no doubt he's a real nice, charming guy, but that isn't any use at this level. He needs to be kicking his guys all over the dressing room and getting more ut of them. Perhaps someone like Sean Lineen could achieve that???

I'll stick with my country whatever, but Frank you are making us look like total erses with your whining excuses and ill judged comments - true the TMO yesterday had a shocker, but the stats don't lie, 1 try in 5 tests, that is not worthy of a second rate international team, let alone one who attempts to be one of the top 8.

Frank go back to basics in the forwards, get quick ball, bin parks forever and reshuffle your back line, make it more potent and who knows we might win a game. If you don't want to do that then head back to age group rugby where you are probably better suited please, before you make us the laughing stock of the 6 nations.
10

Angoose,

Fife 10/02/2008 10:34:06
Where are the heroes?

Messages 6 & 10 are spot on.

If Hadden fails to produce results ( even just some tries) by the end of the 6 Nations, he Graham and Tait must go. Their 2 year contract really is meaningless unless is shows tangible results towards an end goal. They have 3 games left to prove this, and if Gordon McKie is the businessman he likes to think he is, this should clearly be in his mind. (What are his performance measures?)

Possibly more importantly, the Williams, and what looks like the Hadden era are clearly damaging to the long term success of our sport in Scotland. I grew up (admittedly in the amatuer era, Like I suspect most uf posting messages)watching the likes of Broon, McLaughlan, Deans, Irvine , Renwick, , through JJ, Calder, sole and co, the Hastings era. Some great performances, and some dire ones also, BUT SOME GREAT CHARACTERS AND ROLE MODELS FOR YOUNG ASPIRING KIDS. Perhaps Im looking through rose tainted glasses here, but most of the games I went to and watches were played with passion, fight and a desire to win.

Hadden with his comment "It's not our job to entertain the crowd", has agian got it wrong, he forgets it costs anywhere between £15 - £60+ for a ticket to Murrayfield. The crowd is the customer who pays the wages, who, whilst wanting to see a win, we at least want to see a performance played with guts, not the gutless rubbish we have endured recently.
What the schoolboy/girl is seeing now is hardly inspiring towards a long term desire to play or indeed follow rugby throughout thier lifetime with passion, (if we were not passionate, we would not be spending our Sunday mornings posting messages!!) for our nation and our sport.
Changes need to be made, the obvious ones on the field next week, and the less so obvious ones possibly upstairs if they allow Hadden to reside on planet Zanussi.
11

THE DREADED SILVER CROC,

Chateau Croc, Mont Revard, Haute Savoie, France 10/02/2008 10:43:08
Fun Time Frankenstein Hahahhaddock is clearly a fish out of water and must go together with significant individuals within his discredited group of hangers-on who are just not up to the mark. Pigeon & George could remain in a new set-up, along with, Gav, Barty & Stevie - but that's it.

Fact remains that with such a lack of composure in attack, no cutting edge, an obvious lack of fitness and little shape in defence Scotland's uninspiring, ineffective coaching, questionable selection policies and woeful on-field performances there simply must be changes throughout playing AND back-up squad & selections.

Zzzzzzz......

What about a wake-up call, Lord McKie of Gordon?????? Are YOU there too, Mr President Jack?????
12

Andy L,

10/02/2008 12:18:11
"rank awfulness of Frank Hadden's stultifyingly negative and creatively bankrupt gameplan"

Thats an awesome comment! Don't make any changes to the team, there would be little or no benefit in doing that. Change the coaches, all of them. Hadden, Graham, Tait. Its not working, hasn't been working for a long long time. Scotland have become a team who rely on their opposition to have a worse day than themselves to get a result. Boring to watch, boring to support and I imagine boring to be a part of.

Scotland's target shouldn't be a poxy 2 win six nations target or a qtr final WC appearance... it should be to replicate and better our team of 1999. Thats the target. I was 18 during that '99 5 nations, try after try after try, it was incredible rugby to watch and support. Every year since has been a quick in the balls.

So its out with our current set up, do it now don't wait for the end this tournament, Please!!!
13

Tamson,

Edinburgh 10/02/2008 12:56:29
giving up watching Scotland until they get rid of Parks...... its no fun anymore. how many times does hadden need to see how bad he is before finally dropping him

A lot was made in the build up to the game about the fixture in 1988 which turned in to a cracker with both sides playing open running rugby......... yesterday was like watching a completely different sport and even for the Welsh cant have been much fun!

14

Armageddon,

Isle of Mull 10/02/2008 12:57:08
From the kick off, we were terrible. When we kicked the first penalty goal, all I could think was.....oh no....thats just going to annoy them.

I cant ever remember watching a side so devoid of ideas,and with so little ability to roll its collective sleeves up and get stuck in.
Why cant we pass ?, why cant we tackle, why cant we retain the ball. How do a pack of eight creatine induced muscle men managed to get the ball stripped from them with such apparent ease?...are they not very strong under all that bulk?

I have always had huge respect for the back room coaching team especially Graham and Tait, and I simply cant understand why we can no longer perform the simplest of skills. Are the players not properly prepared before they reach international level?

As for Frank Hadden.....a perfectly nice man, but way out of his depth. He should go.
15

Glasgow Expat,

Desert 10/02/2008 12:57:13
#12 good point. It's not sport anymore, it's an entertainment industry. I will support to the death anyone who puts on a Scottish jersey in any amateur sport but I am afraid when money gets involved it becomes a business of no passion or loyalty. Win ugly? Win at all costs to get the win bonus? For some that might be what it's all about. The way I see it now the international pro rugby teams are competing for my support as I am a consumer of their product and sad to say that after a lifetime of supporting Scotland I am finally voting with my cash. Now will it be Australia or England I will support now? mmmm..
16

Jockbok,

Dunfermline 10/02/2008 13:42:33
Hadden must go. Italy have had Kirwan and Berbezier and now have Nick Mallet as coach. We have Hadden. He was a cheap and emergency appointment. The emergency has passed and a rugby catastrophe approaches.

Jake White is available. There is no point appointing Robinson and Lineen yet. We need good and repected coaches at every level. No point in robbing the clubs with the resultant upheaval and loss of form.
17

Laird o Halsall (South of the Border),

Halsall 10/02/2008 14:47:44
Hadden, to be frank, its now getting rather predictable......France "we made too many simple errors"; Wales "we were just awful"; Ireland (in two weeks time) "we made too many school-boy errors"; England "we made too many basic mistakes" and finally Italy "we made too many mistakes"

He says that the players know what they are trying to do, but the game plan is not coming off for them! Well maybe based on the coaching that the players are receiving, F A N T S A Y is always going to be difficult to coach and now we find Scottish rugby, yet again, at the other side of the rainbow (not looking for the pot of gold) but 2 wooden spoons on the trot!
18

Exiled Highlander,

10/02/2008 15:00:49
Perhaps if Scotland were creating the occasional chance istead of desperately defending for 80 mins, then the bad decisions of the last 2 matches wouldn't have affected the matches at all. We have had some howlers, but it has been incompetence rather than bias, and I believe that you create your own luck and get the luck you deserve. Scotland are so bad they don't DESERVE the benefit of the doubt. an even if the decisions HAD gone Scotland's way, they would still have lost - no doubt at all about that.

I dread to think what will happen in the next 3 matches. Ireland will win comfortably, England have the chance to post a record score at Murrayfield and then we have Italy, with a new coach and young players hungry for success.

Hadden's treatment of de Luca is ample evidence of why he shouldn't be in charge. After a poor debut, DL should have been dropped to the bench and allowed to come on for the last 15 mins or so for a confidence builder. Instead, he had another howler and his confidence will be shot. Not entirely his fault - the whole team is flat and uninspired. No one can pass the ball or catch it - fairly basic skills for an international rugby player, I'd have thought....

Even the most ardent Scotland fan must be sickened by the last 2 performances, and anyone with a ticket for Murrayfield for the Calcutta cup match should vote with their feet and stay away. Only action like this will rouse the fat cats at the SRU from their slumber and make them realise that fundamental change is required - not at the end of the season but NOW!
19

forestry,

DUNS 10/02/2008 15:20:29
Frank Haddock your time is up.
20

baldwonder,

edinburgh 10/02/2008 16:38:34
one simple solution, sack him.

Wales have a coach who played for the All Blacks and is proving himself this year, Italy have Nick Mallet for christ sake, ex Springbok and former South African coach. What do we have?

The SRU has the money to blow on a good coach and there was no reason we couldn't have had either Nick Mallet or Warren Gatland when they were available.

Why can the SRU not approach John Mitchell, Robbie Deans, Graham Henry or Jake White with an open wallet and offer the earth to get a good southern hemisphere coach on board?
21

weeveggyhaggis,

alnmouth 10/02/2008 16:45:52
What can I add to all the comments?Another inept, spineless,leaderless performance.No structure,no passion or commitment.Haddon, the coaches and the players deserve all the adverse comments that are being written As a proud Scot and rugby supporter I am totally despondent.
The fact that I am also a Newcastle United supporter tells you what a real Saddo I am.
22

weeveggyhaggis,

continue to comment24 10/02/2008 16:50:30
Just watched Italy almost beat England.I can guarantee that Scotland Collects the Wooden Spoon for the second year running
23

Slasher McGurk,

10/02/2008 17:19:56
Hadden needs to go and go now. Jake White or Andy Robinson to replace him. Hadden needs to go before parks does.

I dont understand, if we are going to kick for territaory and try challeng ethe line out, wht the hell to we not have Scoyy Murray playing. In his day he was the best line out player in the world, even now he is up there with the best.

Wake up hadden and go back to being a P.E teacher at Merchi Castle
24

Slasher McGurk,

10/02/2008 17:21:06
excuse the bad typing on that last post, i did alot of sorrow drowning last night and i have the shakes
25

Dorfl,

South 10/02/2008 18:19:36
27# Typing excused; I've only just plucked up the courage to get out of bed. The big problem is SRU is in such a financial funk that I suspect we can pay Hadden off let alone afford a real class coach. I'm back in the office tomorrow down here in jolly old England - I fully expect a "verbal shoeing" and boy do we deserve it!
26

Dorfl,

South 10/02/2008 18:20:50
Oops told you I'd just got up - that should be "CAN'T" afford to pay Hadden off.
27

Dorfl,

South 10/02/2008 18:25:21
"At the moment we are not getting started, (we have) no platform to launch attacking strategies," said Hadden.
From the BBC - Could that be 'cause that PRAT oops mistyped there meant PARKS kicks everything away. BTW if he is such a world class kicker from hand how come he missed touch more times than I can (or want) to remember yesterday?
28

Westcoaster,

perth 10/02/2008 19:20:20
"a huge respect for tait and graham!" what have either of those two jokers don't for scottish rugby outside of work with the national side in the last 2 years! Nothing. Noses in the troff. They must be laughing there heads off being fulltime employed for 10 weeks work at 3 hours a day!
29

Laird o Halsall (South of the Border),

Halsall 10/02/2008 21:05:07
Looks like the knives are being sharpened...........

Dorfl made a good point, the SRU is a poor as a church mouse and could not afford to pay Hadden off!

To be "frank" it maybe up to the A Team lads to step into the breach once we win the wooden spoon (and thats not BA Baraccas, Face or Hannibal)!

Coaching team for Argentina 2008 tour.......

Robinson knows how to win Grand Slams / World Cups etc!

Lineen knows how to win Grand Slams as well as the Scottish Club structure inside out.

Ian Paxton knows how win Grand Slams as well as having the ability to kick A**E and should head up the coaching team.

Retain Alan Tait to look after the defence.

Right now the only "Suckers" is us fans who are prepared to part with our hard end cash to support Scottish Rugby.......anyone looking for a match ticket for the England game!
30

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 10/02/2008 21:16:07
Just back from Cardiff - looks like the SRU plan of putting Robinson in charge of A team should be revised and him put in charge of the 1st team.

Robinson has transformed a below average Edinburgh team into somethiung a whole lot better than it was, let him do same with Scotland team.

SRU may be broke, but will be poorer if don't get someone in that can win a few games. We can't afford to continue poor form of last year.

Haddens BIG mantra that so proud of repeating was that he intended Scotland to be going into last game with the game meaning something about the outocme of the tournament.

Well after 2 defeats that's already gone and only thing may be competition to avoid 2nd wooden spoon in a row!!
31

Dan Dare & the Mekon (we're frae ooter space, ken),

Ooter space wi' Fun Time Frankenstein Haddock 10/02/2008 21:31:45
At least certain aspects of our Franktastic Spencer and Forrestest Gump look-alike are consistent. Failure and excuses for failure.
32

Pavla,

Irvine 10/02/2008 23:12:43
Frank Hadden seems to have decided to employ the equivalent of the round ball negative 5-4-1- where you defend in depth and invite the opposition onto you in the hope you can score on the break.Unfortunately you first need to defend well and the tackling yesterday was terrible Wales broke almost every one and then you need a little bit of gallus flair when you do attack and I don't remember Scotland penetrating the Wales defence yesterday.
33

MM,

Edinburgh 10/02/2008 23:22:04
oddly enough, what p*ssed me off most about the TMO's decision for Williams' second 'try' was not the fact that it wasn't a try, it was the fact that I knew it would become the main focus of Frank's after match bulls*t.

What worries me most is that I think he actually believes this stuff himself.
34

Tryscorer,

Edinburgh 10/02/2008 23:44:10
Have been saying for longer than most that Hadden was not the answer and this season I think we are finally seeing the reality of that for most people. Have to admit my heart sank when I heard that had signed that new contract as I knew right away that we were destined for at least another dismal 6 Nations and so far seems to have been proved correct.
To make any progress we have to look beyond this guy as he is so limited and so stubborn in his approach and is doing his best to kill the game here stone dead.
I have never seen a Scottish team lacking such passion, imagination and comittment and ultimately that comes down to one man. I include the Matt Williams era in that as well. This has been going on for some time not just this season. I would include the World Cup in that where although we made the quarter final we were frankly woeful and didn't deserve to get that far.
Th days of Hastings, Irvine, Beattie, Calder, Jeffrey, Paxton, Renwick etc. etc. seem a distant memory now and although we were rarely that great at least we played with passion and desire.
Taxi or even a limousine for Hadden though I doubt the powers that be could afford either!
35

EDMOND DANTES - COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO,

Chateau d'If 11/02/2008 18:22:33
ZZZzzzzzz...

Where is that awful Johnny Rotten?

 

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