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Published Date: 29 March 2009
SCOTLAND played England at age group level twice in the past 10 days. The two results were very different, a 21-6 loss for the Scotland U20 side and a 63-0 shellacking for the U18 team, but the conclusions to be drawn were exactly the same. The SRU's development programme is failing to do its job.
The U20 match at Worcester's Sixways Stadium took place on the Friday evening ahead of the Twickenham showdown and, while the score was relatively close, the game was not. Scotland's points came from the boot and the men in blue never really threaten
ed the English line.

In the Scotland line-up, lock Richie Gray was the only professional player and his experience runs to a 30 minute stint off the bench for Glasgow. Every England player was posted as a member of a professional club, almost all of them in the Guinness Premiership, and several have extensive professional experience.

In the England midfield, 19-year-old Luke Eves made his debut for Bristol last season (2007/08) and has since racked up 24 starts and four tries for the West Country club. Eves made England's first try against Scotland which was scored by Henry Trinder, who has played three times for Gloucester this season including a full 80 minutes against both London Irish and Leicester Tigers. The try was converted by Falcons flyhalf Rob Miller, who has enjoyed four starts for Steve Bates in recent months. Another Newcastle player, Rory Clegg, came on in the 46th minute and even England's substitute has already enjoyed nine outings in the Guinness premiership.

As if that gulf in experience was not worrying enough, the exact same story is repeated at U18 level where every single English player (again) is connected to a top-class professional club, unlike any Scots on view. In addition England, were bolstered by a couple of useful recruits in the imposing shapes of brothers Mako and William Vunipola who are both listed at 130kg – bigger than Jim Hamilton.

Apart from persuading VisitScotland to set up an office in Apia, there is little that Murrayfield can do to counter the likes of the Vunipola brothers but there is much to do elsewhere to narrow the gaping chasm between the countries.

The England U18 side ape their elders by having had the sort of quality playing experience that the Scots can only dream about. According to former Scotland flanker Peter Walton, who now coaches them, four of his forward pack and most of his backs have played in the Guinness "A" league, the fully professional level immediately below the Guinness Premiership.

Against that a couple of Scots have played a handful of games for Premier One clubs. The vast majority of Scots counted an U18 inter-district playoff as their biggest match of the season to date so when faced by Guinness A-team professionals they are bound to be on a hiding to nothing.

England are so far ahead in the development of young players that they are about to lap the Scots… for the second time. Guinness clubs now go into partnership with local rugby schools where they place promising youngsters on scholarships. To take just one example, Gloucester have links with St Peters High School in the town and Hartpury College which is three miles hence and which, just to close the circle, is where try-scorer Trinder was educated. The system is known as AASE (Advanced Apprenticeships in Sporting Excellence) and there is nothing remotely comparable in Scotland's schools.

Gloucester actually recruits players from the age of 13 onwards where they participate, not in matches, but in core skills development. From the age of 18 onwards players can, and do, sign full-time contracts. It is clear that Scotland needs to rethink its youth development but, according to the hugely respected U20 coach Eamon John, it's a question of priorities.

"Look", says the little Welshman, "decisions have been made not on the basis of rugby but on the basis of finance and I understand why it needed to be done. If you were to make decisions purely on the basis of rugby you would have kept the third pro-team and added a fourth.

"With four fully professional clubs in Scotland all running proper academies I think we would be in a very much better place. As things stand we will only win youth games occasionally.

"There are problems associated with sporting scholarships, social engineering and all that, but it works in Europe. I've seen it work with other sports like soccer, volleyball etc, it does happen. I think that there will be changes next year and the national academy players will have closer links with the professional clubs."

But whatever academy structure Scotland adopts, the country's best youngsters still need to play high-intensity, high-quality rugby on a regular basis if they are to compete against the best and the U20 forwards coach Peter Wright makes his own suggestion.

"I believe we should look at introducing school leagues, or even an U18 league incorporating schools and clubs, because at the moment most of the matches are friendlies and the way to boost the intensity of the rugby is to make the results matter.

"I would also like to see us go back to the system we used to have when there were three pro-teams who each ran their own academy."

Both men make good points but, sadly, the exact same points have been made for much of the last decade by various wise men without any noticeable improvements. Any changes to the current system will require money, effort and imagination, none of which seem to be in abundance. It seems incredible after 13 years of professionalism that the two pro-teams don't boast their own separate academy complete with manager, coaches and identity. In fact senior figures within Murrayfield concede, off the record, that the current structure is at best woefully inadequate and possibly even downright harmful.

The structure in situ simply isn't working and Wright issues the warning that everyone connected with youth rugby in Scotland already knows.

"The gap between us and England at the moment is pretty big and it is only going to get bigger unless we do something."



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  • Last Updated: 28 March 2009 7:31 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Six Nations
 
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leemagee,

Perth, Australia 29/03/2009 08:11:44
I coach the 2nd XV at a club in Western Australia and the system in this part of the country, where only since the Western Force came to being 3 years ago has rugby become a major sport, things are one hundred times better than in Scotland:
All school players are invited to play in Regional Trials every year and those who make the Regional Squads, play in a small tournament. Those who play well, make the WA State team who then play against NSW, SA, Queensland, ACT etc. Those who show promise, are put into the National Talent Squad, run by Rugby WA, who train them twice a week outside of their normal club duties. By the time they make our senior squads, they have been in the NTS for two years, have been trained by academy coaching comprising former Wallabies, and they play senior grade rugby when they are able...not when they're old enough.
By the time they are 19, they are all playing First Grade rugby and many are in the Western Force academy.
Bearing in mind that this set-up is at the start of its 4th year...why has it already surpassed the Scottish equivalent???
2

Border Terrier,

terra firma 29/03/2009 09:50:02
A very interesting and thought provoking article...

In making comparisons between ourselves, England and Australia, there's another "Haddonseque" statistic that highlights another of our failings. Compare these figures, taken from the IRB site, for the numbers of registered teenage males, and registered senior male players. Scotland 13,402 and 10,556. England 89,000 and 176,582. Australia 18,179 and 36,370.

Of course, statistics are open to all sorts of interpretations, but this at least suggests that if only Scotland was as good at retaining its players in the transition from teenage to senior rugby, then we might have approx 27,000 senior male players, rather than just over 10,000. Clearly, this would improve the game at all levels. Incidentally, New Zealand has just 28,850 senior players to work with.

3

jdships,

Edinburgh 29/03/2009 11:33:51
1 leemagee,
Good post !
In my mid 20's ( 1954) I was lucky enough to play in Wellington and in Melbourne.
NZ coaching was light years ahead of anything I had witnessed then or since .
I learned more in that three months than in the rest of my career.
In Oz coaching was more akin to what I was used to in Scotland so well done for bringing it on so well.

2 Border Terrier

Again I agree with what you say.
My G/son played for his school 1st XV for two years and now seven years on , from that 22 boy squad only about a dozen are still playing !!

The game surely HAS to be built from the bottom up not from the top down.
The SRU/clubs really have to put their differences aside and restructure rugby or the greatest game in the world , imo, will not survive.
At the same time players must "commit" how many Saturdays do we find players not turning up for games without any prior warning ? They let the club and their teamates down as well as showing a sad lack of commitment
4

boarderer,

Edinburgh 29/03/2009 15:20:50
The problem is finance, so why pay all the performance development managers 30k plus, and there management 40k plus to discover arguably 2 proffesionals per year, the community group grow the game through club officers in the non traditional areas. We should go back to having former internationals running age grade teams on a part time basis saving a lot of money in the process, the money saved could be used to have 2 academy squads playing regular games.
The employees that have been at Murrayfield for 10 years or more need to be removed, they have been involved in all of Scottish rugby downturns in the pro era.
5

Macd123,

29/03/2009 18:47:01
#2 interesting point. One of the big problems is losing players at university/college. Guys play at school then turn up to uni and play a handful of games whilst the weather is good. They realise how shambolic uni rugby is compared to organised school rugby. Coaching is often organised by the players.

By November time, dozens of decent players at each uni have drifted away from the game for good, without anyone noticing. Outside the elite handful, we are not doing enough to keep school leavers playing the game.
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Dissillusioned Supporter!,

Borders 30/03/2009 12:08:15
A few years back I watched the Scots u18s (then into u19s) actually well BEAT England, Wales, and even Australia Schools. But at u21 level everything changed. A handful of those players now play for Scotland, some are just club players. Now the trend is as says above, even the England u18s are now way ahead of us.

Please bring back 4 teams NOW. Get current pros/Internationalists distributed to the area they came from (for at least some identity), get a structured youth-club-regional academy-pro team link set-up with players playing for their club/region regularly (none of this identified talent who only train - lets get back to hard meaningfull leagues. (Basically the way it all used to be!) Crowds and success will eventually come if given time, the funding maybe sparce and there may be some hammerings, but I would be there would be far more interest in Scottish Rugby. (What could have been had we stuck with 4 teams since 1998?...)
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Richard in exile,

depressed land 30/03/2009 16:15:28
It is depressing but the problem applies to Scottish sport in general. It seems we have a lost generation of sportsmen and I think it is significantly (although not totally) down to the lack of decent PE in schools, England again is miles ahead of us in this area (I can confirm this having experienced both education systems) and as long as we continue to allow Vodka companies to be the offical sponsor of Scottish Football on Setanta and the like then we can only expect to slip ito the third tier in most sports - rugby, football, golf etc. there needs to be a significant change at the grass roots level and far more support needs to be given to the hard working coaches and volunteers who produce good players at the age of 13, 14 and 15 only to watch them drink and smoke themselves out of the reckoning by the time they are 21.

 

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