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Downing Street, May 4, 2010: Cameron takes a call from Salmond...



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Published Date: 25 May 2008
MAY 4, 2010
It's the morning after the general election and Prime Minister David Cameron is looking forward to his first day in Downing Street. But first he must take a call from his new friend Alex Salmond...

'ALEX Salmond is on the phone, Prime Minister. He wants to offer his congratulations."

"Alex, hi! How are you dear chap?"

"Good, David, good. Told you Labour was easy meat, didn't I?"

"Yes – thanks so much for the advice. 'Time for a Change'... worked a treat."

"Glad to have helped! Anyway, pretty slim majority you got there, David. I'm sure you noticed the fact we've now got 20 MPs."

"Yes, well done you! I guess I'll be needing your support."

"All we're asking for is Scottish corporation tax, a Scottish oil fund, our council tax benefit money, our attendance allowance cash. That's all."

"Ah, sorry Alex. No can do. I told you – the Union's really rather important to me."

"No matter! All grist to the mill for my independence referendum... you do know about my referendum, David?"

"Ah. Slipped my mind actually."

"Oh well. Got to go!"

"When are you having it....."

"Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz."

In a hot conference room in London last week, SNP MP Pete Wishart was holding court. The occasion was a conference organised by the Constitution Unit of University College London and Wishart had been invited to discuss the question of devolution at the crossroads. But all Wishart wanted to talk about was the resurgent Tories. Later that night, Conservative candidate Edward Timpson was elected as the new MP for Crewe and Nantwich, overturning Labour's 7,000 majority with a 7,000 majority of his own. It was yet another staging post on the Tories' now seemingly inevitable march to victory.

Wishart could hardly contain his excitement. "It looks like there will be a Conservative Government in 2010. It will be the best possible moment," he trilled. Only a few months later, Wishart added, the SNP Government plans its referendum on independence. The confluence of events had Wishart grinning from ear to ear. "People in Scotland will be faced with a very clear choice. They (the Conservatives] will be returned with less democratic legitimacy (in Scotland] than they had in the 1990s. It is likely that they will have only two out of 59 seats."

The question the SNP would be able to put to the Scottish electorate would be simple, Wishart declared: "Who do we want to run those important reserved issues? A Conservative Government or the Scottish Parliament?"

Alex Salmond's dream scenario – being able to illustrate the need for Scottish independence by pointing to an "English-imposed Tory Government" – is now growing ever closer. And with wonderful timing – for the Nationalists – it looks like it is set to happen just a few weeks before Salmond prepares to ask the Scottish people to decide their future. The First Minister awaits Cameron's first few weeks and months in office like a venus fly trap. In Scotland last week, wallowing in the applause of the Tory faithful in a conference in Ayr, Cameron offered a steadfast defence of the Union. But does he know what perils await him? And if so, what has he got up his sleeve?

Allies of Cameron have declared in recent weeks that it is the question of the Union – and how the Tories should preserve it – which causes the Conservative leader most concern as he prepares his blueprint for Government. Certainly, nobody can dispute that the battleground that lies in front of him is filled with potential minefields.

At the same conference last week at which Wishart was holding court, one of the Tories' leading thinkers on the constitution, Lord Norton of Louth, laid out the dilemmas. Prime Minister Cameron would face three separate and distinct problems. First, he has to tackle his relationship with Salmond. Second, he has to work out how he deals with his party in Scotland. And third, he has to be mindful of the growing sense among the English that they deserve an equally good deal as the "sponging Scots".

A quick check on how catastrophically Labour has handled these three areas confirms just how damaging they can be if got wrong. So Norton laid out Cameron's options for action. He could embrace the move for more powers for Holyrood – thus appeasing the Scots. He could create an English 'parliament' and cut the number of Scots MPs – thus appeasing the English. He could combine the two – thus satisfying both (but potentially weakening Britain). He could dodge both and hand more power to local government. He could avoid the issue until the publication of the Calman Commission – the cross-party body currently looking into devolution. Or he could simply do nothing.

Norton claimed not to be speaking for Cameron, but whatever Cameron does, it will be one, or more, of the above. None is likely to be easy – especially when a political operator like Salmond is lurking, waiting for every potential slip.

On his trip to Ayr last week, Cameron quickly removed all prospect of one option. Playing to his home English gallery, it seems, is not going to be his course. "I am passionate about our Union. I do not want to be the Prime Minister of England. I want to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom – all of it, including Scotland," he declared.

Close allies insist that Cameron's Unionism is genuine, stiffened further by the equally strong views of shadow chancellor George Osborne. Neither man is said to be persuaded by 'English-only' solutions. And with neither man having gone through the traumatic experience of the late Nineties – when the Tories were wiped out in Scotland – both believe that their message will eventually be heard in Scotland as well.

In a private meeting with Scots candidates on Friday, Cameron conceded to them that his 're-branding' of the party had not yet had the resonance this far north. He warned that it might require the party to actually get back into power before Scots would be persuaded of the case for change. But he is certain they can be.

But the trouble is that this doesn't deal with their immediate problem – their sheer lack of presence in Scotland. Optimistic Tories believe that several seats are up for grabs for the party in 2010 (with even Alistair Darling's Edinburgh South-West seat spoken of as a potential target). But the reality remains that Cameron will still be a Prime Minister who Scots didn't want. Thus, the main Cameron strategy to combat this deficit is a gamble – he hopes to charm Scotland and the SNP Government into submission.

The charm was evident in Cameron's speech last week. Cameron spoke of his desire to govern "with respect" for voters' views. "Whoever is Scotland's First Minister, I would be a Prime Minister who acts on the voice of the Scottish people and will work tirelessly for consent and consensus so we strengthen our Union and never put it at risk," he added.

One leading Cameroon added: "Every courtesy would be extended to Alex Salmond – to take account of Scotland's special interests with an understanding that this requires a sensitive handling."

One Scots Tory added: "Whoever Cameron makes Secretary of State for Scotland should make it their job to ring up Alex every morning and ask him: 'What can I do for you today?'"

The Conservatives say they will avoid the trap which they believe Labour has fallen into of providing a convenient bogeyman for Salmond to attack. "If the Tory party were to slip into caricature then it would work for Salmond," says one leading Conservative figure. All sign of arrogance will be removed; the SNP is set to be drowned in a sea of Humble Pie.

The problem comes, however, when the charm can no longer hide disagreement. SNP MPs, for example, say that should the Tories require Nationalist support for a majority in the House of Commons, top of their list of demands will be a cut in corporation tax north of the border. Such a plan has been ruled out by the Treasury thus far, on the grounds that different rates of corporation taxes cannot be accommodated in a single state. So what would Cameron do – bearing in mind that to refuse would be to play into Salmond's hands? The Tories say they plan to make it their business to be reasonable – so long as Britain itself was not damaged.

A party source said: "If there is a clear political consensus within Scotland that something should happen that would not manifestly imperil the Union then it would be sensible to do that. The judgment has to be that there will be a democratic consensus for it, but also would it imperil the Union or enhance it?"

The agreed strategy is to effectively close ranks behind the findings of the Calman Commission, in the hope that its findings will be seen to be on the side of good sense and reason.

Such a 'reasonable' approach, the Tories argue, will blunt the SNP's lazy assumption that as soon as a Conservative Government is elected at Westminster, Scotland will erupt into a state of nationalist outrage. Times have moved on, they argue. Cameron will have a honeymoon, just like Salmond's. And Scots will instinctively accept, they add, that the huge question of independence cannot be decided purely because Scotland doesn't like Tories very much. "I don't think it is the case that you can win the case for separation by saying: 'Let's protect Scotland from the bogeyman,'" adds one senior insider.

They sound confident, but doubts linger. Won't Cameron's flexibility surely not be tested against the boundaries of his own passionate Unionism? And will the SNP not make it its job to find where that breaking point is? Salmond has talked of making Westminster dance to a Scottish jig. Last week, Cameron insisted that he will lead Scotland on a Unionist march. But he had dust off his dancing shoes off just in case.

Dream team? Cameron's likely Cabinet

GEORGE OSBORNE
Chancellor of the Exchequer

As one of the leading lights of the New Model Conservative Party, George Osborne is Cameron's closest friend and one of the party's key minds. The friendship was struck up on the backbenches during personal discussions of the post-9/11 era. They reportedly made an agreement over which of the two would stand for the leadership, although both deny a pact was ever made. Osborne's policy of taxing non-domiciles in order to cut inheritance tax is seen as a key factor in Gordon Brown's election climbdown.

DAVID DAVIS
Home Secretary

Originally seen as a hard man of the party's right-wing, Davis has since painted himself as an old-fashioned libertarian, most significantly taking a vocal stand against Labour's ID card scheme. His background, growing up in a single-parent parent family in what he describes as a Yorkshire "slum", is politically valuable to the Tories in a cabinet packed with Old Etonians and ex-public schoolboys.

WILLIAM HAGUE
Foreign Secretary

History has been kind to William Hague since his doomed leadership of the Tories came to an end in 2001. Now seen as a victim of timing rather than as a baseball-capped buffoon, Hague is once again a much-respected figure in the Tory set-up. While not necessarily a Cameronista, his down- to-earth demeanour and political experience add gravitas to the flimsy-looking Notting Hill Set.

MICHAEL GOVE
Education Secretary

A noted policy wonk and self-confessed "dungeons and dragons nerd", Gove was born in Edinburgh and raised in Aberdeen. He went through both state and independent schooling before, like Cameron and Osborne, heading south to Oxford University. Gove gave up a lucrative career as a columnist for the Times to take up a position on the Conservative frontbench as the shadow secretary for children, schools and families, although he can still be found in print and on Newsnight Review as an arts critic.

IAIN DUNCAN SMITH
Welfare Reform Secretary

The "Quiet Man" of Conservative politics seems to have found his voice in highlighting the plight of the poor in British society since being dumped as party leader in 2003. He established, and is chairman of, the Centre for Social Justice, a think-tank responsible for finding solutions to Britain's greatest problems.

DAVID MUNDELL
Secretary of State for Scotland

As Scotland's only Conservative MP, David Mundell is the default choice for Secretary of State for Scotland. However, the lack of competition for the role is perhaps the only thing going for Mundell after he allegedly criticised Annabel Goldie's Scottish Conservatives for having "a simple lack of thinkers" in a leaked memo, much to Cameron's reported distaste.

The full article contains 2137 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Senga Jean,

Scotland 25/05/2008 00:18:34
Some Scots will only vote conservative again once INDEPENDENCE has been achieved.
2

Cincinnatus,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 01:44:31
#1 well said. They will no longer be Conservative then and if they start to believe in true meritocracy and a secular constitution - then they could dominate the agenda - Alternately, they will be the party of the latter day Jacobites
3

ptdoug,

25/05/2008 01:54:11
Good article EDDIE.

If Cameron means what he says about working with the Scottish Government and Alex Salmond,treating them with respect and having the best interests of Scotland as his priority... then the transition to Independence should be smooth and amicable indeed.

Interesting and happy days ahead. :-)
4

Freeman Stand,

25/05/2008 02:50:18
The Tories haven't got it won yet. If a week is a long time in politics, two years is huge. Northern Rock might pay back the public money it owes and Mr GB (Broon) could spin it as successful financial prudence. He might get the troops out of Iraq. As witnessed before Crewe & Nantwich, he could wave the magic tax wand. Anyone who thinks it's all over for New Labour needs to step back and take a few deep breaths before commenting.
5

ptdoug,

25/05/2008 03:13:41
Freeman,

And pigs might fly.
6

ptdoug,

25/05/2008 03:17:15
It's over for Labour, New or otherwise.

They are shot in Scotland... and even more so in England and Wales.

They WILL be routed in the General Election, and in the next Scottish Election.

Freeman... take a reality check for goodness sake.
7

ptdoug,

25/05/2008 03:28:55
If Northern Rock did manage to pay back what they owe, Brown could spin like a dervish and still never convince anyone that he did anything more than get lucky.

The economic recession into which we head will deny completely the option of Brown waving any "magic tax wand". That option is simply not there.

Even if the Americans did allow Brown to bring our troops home.... the British public will never forget, nor forgive, the fact that Brown supported Blair and Bush in the ILLEGAL INVASION OF IRAQ.
Brown is up to his elbows in the blood of so many innocent Iraqis and allied troops.

Brown, and Labour are toast.

Bring it on... :-)
8

donald,

glasgow 25/05/2008 07:10:56
Barnes takes a call from Alexander...
9

Border Scot,

25/05/2008 07:49:29
Interesting stuff. A few comments:

1. It coud well be that the Tories will lower Corporation Tax across the UK in any case. How will the SNP respond to that? Will they oppose it?
2. It could well be that the Tories lower income tax rates or increase personal tax thresholds. How will the SNP respond to that. Will they oppose it?

I would never, ever vote Tory, but - at the same time - I can see that they will have it within their power to do as the SNP has done - go down the populist route. That then puts the SNP in a tricky position. If the Tories do not turn out to be half as bad as the SNP claims they will be - just as Salmond & Co have not turned out to be half as bad as Labour told us they would be - then a lot of what the SNP has been relying on to turn that 30% or so favouring independence into 50% plus will no longer exist.

Thus, the challenges are two way here. Once the Tores are back in power, the Thatcher and major years can no longer be summoned automatically for the SNP cause. The SNP then has to rely on more abstract reasons for people to vote for independence. Then the issue is whether Scots, potentially with more money in their pockets as a result of tax cuts, will choose independence just because the Westminster government is not one they have voted for - especially when they have a Holyrood government that they have voted for and which has control over most of the things that affect their daily lives.

10

Slippylizard,

Cloudy Rock 25/05/2008 09:14:02
The thing is that the common fact is that Labour have screwed up big time in Scotland and they are running around like scared rabbits at the moment. Mr Brown in London is so determined to stay that he will lead his party to defeat.

The other fact is that we should try and forget about Maggie Thatcher and what she did in Scotland. She actually did similar damage to other parts of the country other than "that" tax. What I am saying though is that the "New" Tories are now coming through and we should hear what they have to say rather than just use the scare words "Maggie Thatcher". It is a very easy political threat and demonstrates a lack of idea and policy itself. After all it is what the Labour party in Scotland do all the time, threaten us with "Maggie". Unfortunately she went away quite along time ago, time to move on for the benfit of our country.
11

Upbeat,

25/05/2008 09:21:03
A whole lot of predictable comment from a group of Scots ? who are stuck firmly in the past.

The Tories of the 1970's and 1980's were the product of their times. Twenty years have come and most of those characters are now drawing pensions, or have gone from the world of politics .The economic circumstances that inspired the policies of the Thatcher governments were of that era. The measures implemented did set up the British economy so successfully that New labour has been able to ride on the back of new efficiencies right through their decade in office until new policy was required during the last few months. New Labour don't have a clue how to put the wheels back on the economic wagon. They never did. But the economic circumstances that prompted the Tories to restructure the British economy in the 1980's have really changed now.

Today's Tories, Liberal democrats , Labour, and SNP political candidates are a new generation. Since 1997 most businesses and teh world economy have moved into the broadband age. So of course things are different . Scotland has to take a wake up call. Ditch the unfounded anti Tory prejudice that dates from two decades ago and acts as Blinkers. Those days are over..for better or worse. We cannot turn the clock back now. Nor should we instinctively blame the children for the activities of their parents. To do so in spite is never wise.

Study policy measures from a young modern group of highly intelligent politicians whose political thought that has a track record of creating stability and wealth.

To dismiss the tories unheard, simply through some hostility to events 20 years ago, is a bit like continuing never to consider a Ford car because the engine on your Ford Escort Mk 3 blew up.
12

danielrober,

25/05/2008 09:54:23
Is there any problem with PM Dave asking an elected Conservative MSP to become the Secretary of Scotland?
13

Queen D,

Glasgow 25/05/2008 09:57:58
People have short memories.
Prior to Mrs Thatcher we had a Labour government which gave us strikes galore.
Rubbish on the streets, army left to clean it up. The dead unburied, the 3 day week, sky high inflation, sky high unemployment.
I would vote for the conservatives in an INDEPENDENT Scotland, until that day I will vote SNP again.
My reasons,
Iraq/ Afghanistan
Trident 1&2
Northern Rock , given MORE money than my country
PPP
Foreign policies which endanger us and others.
Our resources squandered by successive Westminster governments and the LIES told about them
WATER ,another resource which could go down the pan.
14

b.allan,

alba 25/05/2008 10:17:17
Alex Salmond waiting for Cameron like " a venus flytrap" that is award winning journalism, Eddie!
Goodbye north britain party, you rotting weeds of scottish politics. As for Cameron, he can dress it up in all the flowery language he wants, but he has got no more interest in the progress and success of Scotland than his predecessors did.
15

Publius,

Girvan 25/05/2008 10:21:59
#16 b.allan
You may be ill-advised to write off the Tories altogether.
There are three elections on the horizon - UK general election, Scottish referendum, Scottish election. The order is suggestive. Almost certainly the Tories will win the UK general election. If the Tories get less than, say, 20 per cent of the vote in Scotland, the SNP can attack them as anti-Scottish and pick arguments with Westminster. If the Tories get more than 20 per cent, the SNP will be on more difficult ground. They won't get independence by labelling a sizeable number of Scots anti-Scottish and attacking the government they voted for.
16

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 25/05/2008 11:18:53
It looks increasingly likely that Scottish votes will not decide the next election. The swing to the Tories in England has the appearance of being on a huge scale. I'd like to see Scotland send as many SNP MPs back to Westminster as we can, so that when Cameron stands at the dispatch box he's reminded that his authority stops at the border.

As for Labour, their tactic of accusing the SNP of 'grudge and grievance' politics - a theme constantly spread across the Scotsman - has a limited shelf life. How will the electorate in Scotland react to being told the SNP are 'picking fights' with a Tory government at Westminster? I suspect they'll be more than glad.
17

Ugly George,

25/05/2008 12:37:27
The article is rather naive and simplistic in its analysis. The issue of Alex Salmond asking for a cut in corporation tax for Scotland would be dealt with very easily by David Cameron. It is already Conservative policy to cut corporation tax across the UK. David cameron will just say "you are going to get lower corporation tax anyway - do you then still want to saddle all the companies in the UK with the extra admin. burden of separating their Scottish operations from from the ones in the rest of the UK so that they have to declare accounts to two different inland revenues. You're new friends in business wont like that."
18

sm753,

25/05/2008 12:55:24

Oh look, the Nat-wit usual suspects are trotting out their CAPITAL LETTERS again.

Let's face it - in 2010 the Unionist parties will continue to score a combined vote of 70-80%, the Tories will climb back up to natural level of 25-30% and the mistakes and cock-ups about to be committed by Fat Al, "Hapless" Swinney and co will take them down a peg or two.
19

The Answer,

Glasgow 25/05/2008 13:45:32
salmond is not standing again for westminister, one seat less for the snp without the other parties needing to do a thing!

20

Patrick Henry,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 13:49:21
I see the unionits are up and about. I do wish they would learn to express themselves in a more dignified and respectful manner. It so lowers the tone when they fail to do so.

As for the subject of the debate, I seem to have mislaid my crystal ball. Two years from now in a pre-referendum period following a UK general election of which the result cannot be predicted so far in advance without a crystal ball is a little too far into the future for me to peer. I am not even too sure about the events of the coming week.

One thing I am pretty confident about, however, is that no matter how willing one may be to refrain from prejudging a Cameronian Tory government in London, the Scottish people as a whole are still instinctively of an egalitarian and meritocratic predisposition. If Mr Cameron can succeed in convincing the Scots that the Cameron clique of old-Etonian overprivileged Tory toffs are in tune with us, have our best interests at heart and can serve the interests of their natural constituency of southern detesters of "whining, whingeing, sponging Jocks" at the same time as serving our interests so impeccably that even Mr Salmond is impressed, I'll eat my hat.
21

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 14:01:49
22 Patrick Henry
Why do you ask others to comment in a more "dignified" manner when you resort to crude pejorative stereotypes like "overprivileged Tory toffs" and "southern detesters"?
22

Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 25/05/2008 15:31:13
18 Gregor Addison. Gregor unless the Scots in the very unlikely event vote 100% or as near as damnit for the SNP candidates in a Westminster election, they can never be the decisive factor.

This is the fundamental reason behind the need for Scotland to be independent.

 

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