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Go green for £100 council tax discount



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Published Date: 04 February 2007
HOMEOWNERS who recycle their rubbish and insulate their houses properly will get council tax discounts of £100 a year, Jack McConnell has vowed.
The First Minister's pledge, to be contained in Labour's forthcoming election manifesto, will form part of a Climate Change Bill which the party will table if they are returned to power after May's Holyrood vote.

The actual reductions being offer
ed would be left up to individual councils to decide. However, officials say they believe the £100 figure to be appropriate, amounting to a 10% reduction from the average Band D rate.

It represents the first attempt in Britain to link local taxation to green incentives, as ministers seek new ways to try to persuade households to consider climate change in their everyday lives.

Houses would be granted the reduction if, for example, they had cavity wall insulation and draught-proofing measures which reduced energy bills.

Evidence that homeowners were recycling and composting could also ensure they qualified for the cut.

The move comes after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warned last week that global temperatures could rise by as much as 6°C by the end of this century. Melting polar ice caps are likely to cause sea levels to rise by as much as 17 inches, it added, destroying thousands of miles of the world's coastal regions.

In a speech tomorrow, McConnell will urge "each and every person" in Scotland to examine their actions to see where they can reduce the impact on the planet. But, in a significant change of tone, he is to reject measures which penalise 'bad' behaviour, instead hoping that he can change habits by offering incentives like the tax discount.

Councils welcomed Labour's proposals last night, but warned there could be significant difficulties in implementing the measure. McConnell has not yet offered firm details of exactly how the new scheme would be funded or implemented.

If every one of Scotland's households qualified for the £100 levy, it would cost councils £227m a year to implement, depriving them of a significant portion of their income.

However, McConnell said

: "We will... legislate to create the opportunity for local authorities to provide discounts in the council tax to households where people are recycling their goods or have installed energy-efficient measures."

He said the incentive scheme marked a shift in emphasis.

"We need to get into a different mindset so that we are incentivising people for reducing their waste rather than charging people for having waste," he said.

The cash discount is expected to be offered as a fixed sum in council areas - offering a proportionally greater discount for people in smaller homes.

A spokesman for the Green Party said: "These things are great ideas but our main criticism is that it is pointless talking about little initiatives here and there while still continuing to push on with a plan to treble aviation and increase road use in Scotland. Labour have plenty of gimmicks to make themselves look serious but when you look at the whole policy platform they are a joke."



The full article contains 517 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Ted,

04/02/2007 00:21:32

What a mince wee token effort. This executive wouldn't know the first thing about the environment if they were lost in it. The sooner there's no Labour and definitely no Lib Dem sellouts in government the better, and they can take all their roads schemes and nuclear plants with them.

2

Rabster,

Edinburgh 04/02/2007 00:30:36

Ted #1 what a miserable so and so you are. This is a good idea and you don't have to be a supporter of Labour or the Lib Dems to recognise that. We should all applaud efforts to support the environment, whether or not they come from the political parties that we support. I happen to be an SNP supporter but it doesn't mean I have to denigrate everything the current Executive does.

3

Jemima,

north of scotland 04/02/2007 00:42:56

Just home from yet another Burns supper - and very nice it was too = thought I'd log on and see what was happening in the world of politics - and lo and behold wee Jack's come up with this, a measly £100 off our council tax. What will we have to spend to have our homes "properly insulated?" I wonder? I've been recycling all my household waste for decades now, hope I get a refund for all the waste I've NOT put in a landfill! God help us all if voters fall for this - what about a reduction in the council tax because it's too damned high, not because we're sifting through our rubbish. If Jack's lot sifted through some of their own rubbish, we'd be a lot better off!

4

Nevyn,

Glasgow 04/02/2007 01:02:39

"The actual reductions being offered would be left up to individual councils to decide."

Well that makes the headline of 'Go green for £100 council tax discount' a bit stupid.

Cash strapped Local Authorities who can't even meet their free personal care bills are not going to buy in to Jack's uncosted gimmick.

How many extra council tax staff, cleansing employees, refuse vehicles and wheelie bins and at what cost to collect all this green material? let alone how is it to be policed? Where is the logic in adding to Council costs and then expecting the council to slit its own financial throat by reducing the only means for Councils to pay for all this?

This is the kind of shameless election stunt that just turns voters off and trivialises the real environmental challenges that we face.

5

rab, glasgow,

04/02/2007 01:07:26

2. Rabster, Edinburgh /You must be havin a laugh?

6

Guga,

Rockall 04/02/2007 02:02:43

What about people in rural areas where they don't have recycling? Also, how do you go about doing cavity wall insulation if you live in an old stone house with no cavity walls?

As for the greens, that mob would have us all back in the dark ages and running around on horses and carts.

This is just wee Joke McConnell pretending that he has "green" credentials, regardless of how it might affect people. And, of course, council tax would rise to pay for the £100 discount. The increase would, needless to say, be more than the value of the discount.

Let's face it Joke, you are on your way out, regardless of how much "pork barrelling" you try.

7

sheena,

at home 04/02/2007 02:11:55

Posters were laughing yesterday at the SNP's promise to stop prescription charges for the chronically ill, although it was a perfectly straightforward proposal and everyone could see how it could be implemented.

Today we have this from the Labour Party, with no flesh on the bones, so to speak. It raises more questions than it answers. e.g. Where are local councils to find the money for the scheme? who will decide how much insulation is sufficient? What if you have a stone built cottage with 3 foot thick walls but no cavity? Is someone going to weigh your green, brown and blue bins every week? How will the council know if you have visited the recycling site? Are they going to measure the height of your compost heap? check if you have a brick in your cistern? Will the pay out be for new recyclers only.

Also, is Jack aware how much it costs for a Local Authority to set up a comprehensive re-cycling scheme?

Ted (1) calls it mince - I would call it tripe. (I like mince)

8

www.scottwebb.co.uk,

04/02/2007 04:49:51

Comment@6 Guga, brilliant comment mate....lmao :)

9

Paul Voltaire,

www.paulvoltaire.spaces.live.com 04/02/2007 07:10:58

What a barmy idea!
If this nonsense is the kind of thing that we waited so long too have our own parliament for, then it is not worth it.

10

morris,

edinburgh 04/02/2007 08:05:58

This will no doubt be introduced immediately after the council tax bills are increased by a nice round figure..................erm lets say £100 .
Yes that seems to be in order.
It might not appear as a single increase of course,but rest assured collectively we will still have to finance Local Government and who pays what is irrelevant when this matters more than who can afford to pay what !
We tax our lower earners disproportionately.Scrap the system and replace it with a local income tax Then when we have a fair system of payment we can debate the less important issue of who qualifies for a discount and who does not.
Personally I think this has far more to do with earning Brownie points for New Labour than tackling climate changes!
I doubt it will achieve either!

11

Cadgers,

Perth 04/02/2007 08:55:08

Does McConnell EVER think before he flaps his gums?
I agree with all the above(especially with Sheena,I like mince too) apart from #2.

12

pc49,

essex 04/02/2007 10:02:42

Another way of implementing ‘Big Brother’.

No-doubt they will wish to survey your property to
ascertain what you have done to qualify.

We should remember that after, the council will have
an even more comprehensive dossier on what you have
in your home.

Remember that two years ago under ‘Health & Safety’
electrical rules were changed. You are left with being
able to change a plug or light switch and little else.

What next, you will need a certificate to have plumbing
work done?

At the moment there is no charge but how long before
that is changed?

A fee for this, a fee for that!

I see another way for them to collect more tax from people
hidden under the banner of ‘being green’.

13

Jockyw,

04/02/2007 10:06:06

If this is the case then is it not in the best interest for all concerned to introduce NOW.

Why wait till the elections. When Joke came to power he said he had the peoples interest at the foremost. Well action now & the public can save £100's each household.

Election this & that, stop playing with our minds & vote. We want action today. You & b-LIAR have already wasted the publics’ time (YEARS).

14

Jockyw,

04/02/2007 10:14:05

Roughly £100 savings to every household dependant on local councils.
There's a difference between a single person in a 1 bed flat & a family of 6 in a massive town house in what each different household eats, recycles, read & what they generate as far as recycling.

What are the costs to (for example): cavity wall insulation, draught-proofing measures which reduced energy bills, evidence that homeowners were recycling & composting could also ensure they qualified for the cut.

Any other bright ideas what constitutes recycling savings?

15

Mcsnagpile,

S.E.Asia 04/02/2007 10:21:37

I do not know what the Government is talking about. We have contributed to clean air continually since the 1950’s. The amount of heavy industry that has been eradicated from Scotland and the consequent unemployment reduced our contribution to world pollution considerably. The closure of the coal mines alone has had a significant reduction of our contribution to world pollution. A great deal of the coal burned in china comes from Aussie. I think it is time for everybody else to contribute (who mentioned the USA). By the way £100 is nice in the right direction unfortunately something else will do without.

16

Herb Aishus,

Border 04/02/2007 11:07:41

and one of the first things the members of our wee toy parliament could do is walk the length of themselves rather than have the ministerial car take them.

#14 Jockyw - dangerous ground - memories of the poll tax.

17

Chikderic,

Inverness 04/02/2007 11:16:30

It is not only old stone houses which can't have cavity wall insulation fitted. Almost all new houses in the Highlands are timber framed which rules out cavity wall insulation. Recently there was a house for sale where cavity wall insulation had been fitted to a timber framed house and the estate agents' details warned prospective purchasers about this. Also, just who pays the councils the money they don't collect from these measures? No hope they will cut the obscene allowances councillors award themselves.

18

Gnasher,

04/02/2007 11:25:45

It'll never work. It's doomed to fail. Bring back matrons. They're doing it all wrong. It's political correctness gone mad. Things were better in the old days.

19

fatboyslim,

Recycling is pointless 04/02/2007 11:38:17

Recycling is pointless
If you send the goods to china to be recycled
If the energy consumption that is need to recycle the goods is high
If the amount you actual recycle is low compared to what you want to recycle
If the equipment you use in the recycling process itself pollutes
There are better ways to help the environment
RE USABILITY
Re-use rather than recycle
The old example of taking back lemonade bottles and getting money is a good one
CUT DOWN ON PACKAGING
Don’t create the waste that needs to be recycled in the first place
USE TECHNOLOGY SMARTLY
The government could invest millions in the holly grail of e-paper.
This would not only be good for the environment but actually benefit and revive and reinvent the newspaper industry.
Just download books and newspapers via your phone and then use Bluetooth to access a copy of the your favourite newspaper which could even be customised.

20

Food lover,

west coast 04/02/2007 12:01:37

But how much power woudl everyone use in downloading all that stuff?

Recycling is already costing me a fortune as I now have to pay a local contractor to take away the stuff that won't go in my green bin because collections are now only fortnightly.

I also have to drive to the local supermarket to recycle plastic as the council won't do it.

So I pay more money for poorer service.

We need at least 20 new safe nuclear power stations to generate so much power that we can not only keep all the lights on, but run proper recycling plants!

They will also be jolly useful when the windmills don't go round - like today...

21

Justy,

Edinburgh 04/02/2007 12:06:00

fatboyslim,I agree wholeheatedly. For the paperless office, read paperless home.
Justy

22

JD,

04/02/2007 12:22:00

1 : Are we going to have inspectors going round houses and checking to see if we have filled our "Blue" (Recycled) Wheelie bins???

2 : How can this work if you live in a Tenement?

Just like the promise that.. If elected.. "Joke" would ensure that MPs etc would use Public Transport instead of Council Cars..

Is someone in the Executive actually paid to come up with those ideas.. or does "Joke" think them up on his own?

23

Scaramouche,

04/02/2007 12:37:27

I want my, I want my money back
I want my, I want my money back

Now look at them greens man, that's the way you do it
You get your bins and sort them all out
It'll work cos, that's the way you do it
Sorting your garbage, and your kids do it free
Now that it's workin', that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya, it really ain't dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

(Refrain)
We got to recycle microwave ovens
Dispose of kitchen deliveries
You can't dump those refrigerators
You got to recycle old TV's

The little gay guy with the earring and makeup
Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair
He recycles everything from top to bottom
That why he's a secret millionaire

(Refrain)

I shoulda learned to recycle cans and ovens
I shoulda learned to tie up newspapers
Look at that mama, she stickin' it in the bucket
Man that's what we shoulda done
And you're up there, what's that, Hawaiian toys(es)?
Bangin' on the bongos like a chimpanzee
Oh, that ain't workin', that's not the way you do it
Get your money for recycling, cos nothin' from McConnell's free

(Refrain)

Now that's recyclin', that's the way you do it
You get your kids to do it for free
That's recyclin', that's the way you do it
Money back from McConnell, but nothin's free

Money from McConnell, yeah - nothin's free
I want my, I want my, I want recyclin' fee
(Repeat, ad lib to fade)

*with very many apologies to Dire Straits, and if we don't get recycling, we'll be in them!

24

kameroon,

lanarkshire 04/02/2007 12:58:51

That,s rubbish fannybawz.

25

WI in GA,

04/02/2007 13:10:38

Oh Scaramouche...where dyou find the time mate? **LOL** Good one!

26

Repton,

edinburgh 04/02/2007 13:12:37

How do you know that this is a qualifying criteria unless your home was inspected.Get real Jack and make council tax fair.Pensioners and single occupancy should never pay the same as a family.Till this simple annomaly is addressed Labour can go to hell for me.

27

Eve,

Scotland 04/02/2007 13:14:41

£100 a year of concil tax for recycling!!!

What ever happen to 15p for an Irn bru bootle, or money of milk for old milk bootles.

I rember when I was wee their use to be milk delives, daily and milk bottels used to be left out and collected. Ofcourse this sort of thing doesney really happen now what with the Supermarket buying up most of the milk and bigger carrton being cheaper.

I think legislation should be passed meaning that milk suplers need to use glass bottels again (instead of plastic bottels) which can be collected in exchange for money every fortninght or have local glass bins.

When I mention this subject only because I now I'm guilty of throwing plastic milk bottels in the bin (Yes I know some place offer to recycle them but, when you don't live in an area that has that opertunity and have no car you could fill a small room with that sort of thing) but I would never dream of putting Glass in the refuge bin in less it was broken.

Though this might mean that milk comes in smaller container due to glass bottles only being one size, though I'm sure I'm not alone in says that milk taste so much better on the day its open than 4 days down the line (yes I know the carton say consume withing 3 days but it's not always possible or afordable).

28

Derick fae Yell,

04/02/2007 14:37:59

#28 and 29
In Sweden: "The fewer times you have your wheelie bin emptied,the less council tax you pay....vouchers to redeem against your shopping"

Horay, practical suggestions and some light instead of heat. Up the Swedes!

Makes more sense than "£100 off your cooncil tax" which is just a cheap campaigning headline - with a few practical difficulties as various parties have noted above. Timber frame houses can't be cavity insultated as they need breathing space outside the frame - and the insulation is inside the frame. Old stone houses should only be used to keep sheep in.

Recycling IS is worth doing, because
15% of the ecological footprint is public and commercial consumables oh the photocopying the photocopying. Packaging etc all recyclable
9.9% of the footprint is domestic consumables nappies, newspapers etc (all non food). ditto all re recyclable.
32.4% of the footprint is food, of which a third is completely wasted and goes in landfill.

Compare private cars 7.7%
housing 9.6%
water supply 0.1% (due to durable infrastructure - so grey water recycling is a complete waste of time)
Figures extracted from Stockholm Institute Ecological Footprint of City of York, Technical Report - it's online

I keen I keen, more boring stats.
PS the Hootsmon makes right good briquettes for the owld stove, so it does.

29

Eve,

Scotland 04/02/2007 15:04:24

#28. Simlångsdalen: "England could well be advised to study some of her European neighbours when it comes to enery and recycling issues"

Are you confued

Or

Do you think the Scots are too stuiped too observe other European countrys methods in recycling.

I really hope your not suggesing that McConnell and (unionist) Co. should hand this debt back to Westmenster.

You should really lisen a wee bit closer and you'll descover that the unionist in Holyrood are handing back power (devevoled power, no less) to Westminster. Please don't give them more idea of what the can hand back to westminster.

30

fatboyslim,

recycling is pointless 04/02/2007 15:07:26

To blogg 30
Look at my last blogg 19
I think that recycle should only be seen as a last resort.
It is a policy that actual does not address our wasteful consumer culture, in fact it legitimizes by allowing it to continue unaddressed its not a real solution at all.
Surely it is much better to stop the wasteful culture in the first place.
For example why recycle newspapers, if you have your energy sourced from re-newable sources then why not get rid off paper altogether and replace it with e-paper and then download the latest newspaper.
Why not get rid of CDs and DVDs and encourage people to download and own the media electronically instead.
Re-cycling should only be used as a last resort and as part of an overall approach for having a sustainable environment policy.
Why not give tax breaks for companies or grants to encourage businesses to become paperless or for them to reduce the amount of unnecessary packaging rather than having to recycle
THE KEY WORD SHOULD BE REUSE REUSE REUSE
NOT RECYCLE

31

Neil,

9% Growth Party 04/02/2007 15:09:47

Since the money is not going to be produced from pixy dust this seems to be a Labour promise to put up our council taxes by £100 so that they can take it off again.

Brilliant.
And people are expected to actually vote for this.

If "energy efficiency" can't pay for itself then, by definition, it isn't efficient.

32

Mac Mhic Raonuill,

Edinburgh 04/02/2007 15:58:35

Jack is he like the prverbial Jack in the box! Pops up now and then. It causes laughter but no one takes him seriously!
Hit Bush & Co Jack with your concerns. and perhaps we can really see a big drop in greenhouse gases!

33

Mac Mhic Raonuill,

Edinburgh 04/02/2007 15:59:02

Jack is he like the proverbial Jack in the box! Pops up now and then. It causes laughter but no one takes him seriously!
Hit Bush & Co Jack with your concerns. and perhaps we can really see a big drop in greenhouse gases!

34

Unbeliever,

04/02/2007 16:40:16

#33

Spot on

35

quarrybanksurfer,

Perthshire 04/02/2007 17:00:50

Yes that is great but when it comes to recycling, Perthshire is miles behind other counties, we moved last year from an area were glass, cans, cardboard, paper etc were picked up every two weeks. here we have the newspapers picked up once a month. I have a large amount of glass bottles which need to be recycled and have to throw away dozens of cans every week, as we do not have a car.

36

conservative,

04/02/2007 17:07:17

We're not talking about councils giving a £100 rebate - don't be silly!

What will happen is that those who don't recycle enough will get a £100 fine.

So the councils won't lose - they'll gain. Got it now?

37

Derick fae Yell,

04/02/2007 17:24:06

Fatboyslim

don't think we are disagreeing about much. Recycling is not opposed to reducing and reusing stuff - surely all are complementary

Neil - 90% of the total environmental impact of a house is energy costs in use, if the house lasts 60 years. If the house lasts longer, the percentage due to energy costs in use increases still further.
Energy saving/efficiency does pay for itself -but in the long term only.

38

Euan,

Edinburgh 04/02/2007 17:37:20

Just another off-the-cuff proposal from McConnell.

If the Executive wants to get tough on carbon emissions from homes then they should be talking to the home builders and tackle the problem at source by creating more energy-efficient houses from the start.

Thing is, if you look at this link you will see that off-setting our carbon emissions from our homes is the least of our problems...

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0603/feature4/inde...

39

GoodHat,

Seattle 04/02/2007 17:58:07

Global warming is a scam. It's just being used to take away our freedoms.

40

Neil,

9% Growth Party 04/02/2007 18:00:20

Whether it is efficient depends on circumstances. Spending £10,000 on double glazing to save £250 wouldn't pay the interest but getting a 50% government grant & saving £500 just about would. But only becasue of the subsidy.

By comparison if we went nuclear & halved electricity costs then we only save £125 which makes it not worth while but does save all the CO2. As Nicol Stephen said "nuclear is the easy answer" & should thus be opposed because if we do that the people will never hold still for all these subsidies.

41

Sambo,

The deep south 04/02/2007 18:29:39

Quick question, why bother to insulate if the globe is warming?

42

Gareth Sullivan,

oslo 04/02/2007 18:37:26

I just wonder how much it cost to come up with this idea if you can call it that, the Labs probably employed a so called 'think tank' for XXXX thousands of pounds (probably equivalent to the discount they are offering).

43

Crank Parent,

Livingston 04/02/2007 19:20:13

There are 7 people in our house (we have 5 kids). We try to produce as little waste as possible, recycle everything we can and use cloth nappies etc. We have a standard size blue bin for recycling, a standard size brown bin for garden waste and a standard size grey bin for everything else. Our bins are rarely full when we put them out. Compare this with many of our neighbours who have extra large bins or multiple bins which are often overflowing and who have a lot less people in their house.

I am all for encouraging people to reduce, reuse and recycle but I don't see how you could police such a scheme without knowing exactly what each family's circumstances are and exactly what waste they are throwing out.

44

Chikderic,

Inverness 04/02/2007 19:24:44

#45 Sorry but people like you are the cause of many of the problems. Overpopulation is one of the chief causes of environmental degradation. If everycouple had 5 children, then no amount of energy conservation and recycling can avoid disaster. But how many people are prepared to even discuss the problem of overpopulation never mind take effective action against it?

45

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04/02/2007 19:35:22
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46

Bonnie Laddie,

04/02/2007 20:34:57

A 100 quid off cooncil tax - what a laff - once everybody is daein the cooncil wurk for them - it’s gonna be savin them more than £100 per household - let’s face it - it’s noo too late to save the human race !

47

Biker,

South Ayrshire 04/02/2007 21:08:21

all this nonsence about recycling is getting my goat. Our local council insists that we put paper in a separate bin then, tip the whole damn lot , along with the household rubbish into the one scaffy wagon. Why separate it anfd then amalgamate it all again. And as for wee Jack offering £100 in return for helping him and his cronies with their stupid ideas........ gimmie a break ye numpty

48

Tug Wilson,

Burnside 04/02/2007 23:09:06

What a load of baloney. Our road and adjacent streets are deprived of recycling collection by South Lanarkshire, while the blue bin lorries run past the end of the road. We have written and emailed requesting the service since it was started 3 years ago, even wrote to Rutherglen Reformer for assistance. Council have anwered our email saying there is no current plan to include our area, but don't say why we can't get the service. Would it not be a good idea to recruit the sympathetic first, to support the scheme, before throwing money at people who can't be bothered. After all, we don't get any reduction in Council Charge and pay our share of the new plant and vehicles that are displayed in the council propoganda newspaper.

49

Em,

04/02/2007 23:48:40

So people want to know how they are going to increase council tax payments before they deduct the £100.

#26 asked: How do you know that this is a qualifying criteria unless your home was inspected.

Well it will be with the new stealth home improvement tax.

The tax would see properties revaluated on an annual basis and, taking into consideration any material changes such as the building of sheds, patios, double glazing, bathrooms, conservatories and extensions, homeowners could be billed accordingly through their council tax payments.

So I assume that if you decided to put in cavity wall insulation or double glazing this could also be classed as a home improvement which would increase the rate of tax you pay.

At the end of the end of the day it doesn't matter what you do, it's a lose lose situation for the tax payer.


http://news.assetz.co.uk/articles/3206.html

50

Em,

05/02/2007 00:00:46

I forgot to mention,

This tax will hit Northern Ireland in April as a testing ground

New powers of entry: This new tax system requires detailed information about every home. The Government has now pushed new laws through Parliament through an obscure Committee to give the town hall tax inspectors powers in Northern Ireland to barge into local homes. Under ‘Article 38’ of the new law, householders will be forced to let state officials into their homes. In a worrying addition, residents who “fail to give reasonable assistance” or do not collaborate with the inspectors will be fined £1,000 and be recorded on local police and court records. If the householder continues to obstruct, hinder or fail to provide assistance, they can be fined £200 per day on top.

51

MI,

Edinburgh 05/02/2007 00:12:06

Why cannot Jack learn from other jurisdictions which have tried this already ?

To make it work an army of bureaucrats are employed to check dustbins etc.

Then to meet their cost financial penalties are introduced for those who "appear" to not be properly recycling.

People cheat e.g. dump their rubbish that should have been recycled in other people's bins.

At the end of the day an expensive operation - more taxes - minimal environmental gain

52

SamtheMan,

Strathclyde 05/02/2007 00:14:56

£100 off the council tax for recycling? BUT we are recycling already! How many more bins can we have in the back garden?

This is bribery - there is an election coming up.

Petrol prices have fallen. Gas, electricity prices decreases are promised hence inceased consumption - although global warming is caused by hydrocarbon combustion and methane release into the atmosphere. This present scenario illustrates the hypocracy of global warming taxes! After the election prices will soar - the executive will give us some good excuses to take more from our pockets.!

The £100 is nothing to what the 'recommended' companies will charge for upgrading our recycling/insulation etc....

North Lanarkshire now charge £40 for every special uplift and disposal previously free. Our countryside and alleyways will soon be tips. It is time our council services delivered value for our existing council tax.

53

Lizzie B,

Edinburgh 05/02/2007 18:17:32

Blue bins, grey bins, green bins - I've never seen them and have no idea what they might be. I live, like many, in a city-centre tenement flat and have only the big all-purpose communal wheely-bin (also used, of course, by the "we're too posh for wheely-bins" people from Edinburgh New Town who think recycling means driving your 4x4 to dump your rubbish in front of other people's houses). I could take my stuff to recycling points some distance away but, like most people, I have neither the time nor the inclination to sit on a bus with bags of household rubbish and I don't have a car (as most committed recyclers seem to have!)

On a different tack, as other posters have indicated, tenement flats are a bit short on cavity walls, lofts and space for solar panels.

If government bodies provided the facilities, a lot of people would happily co-operate - just don't penalise those of us who don't live in houses in suburbs with gardens for our compost heaps and recycling bins provided by the Council!

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JimJon,

Central 05/02/2007 21:37:24

They'll just increase it by £100 the following year to compensate...


 

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