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Deadly fake alcohol doing the rounds



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Published Date: 22 April 2007
CRIMINALS are using windscreen wash and other potentially deadly liquids to produce millions of near-perfect counterfeit bottles of top-brand vodka and gin, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.
The scam - which could cause blindness or even death - is so serious that Customs chiefs have set up a dedicated squad to track down and shut the illegal factories churning out thousands of bottles a day.

The fake bottles are being sold to pubs, clubs and corner shops for a fraction of the normal price but the illegal spirits are likely to contain dangerously high levels of methanol.

It is understood products made by major firms such as Diageo - which bottles millions of bottles of spirit in Scotland annually - are among those targeted by the gangs. Known to operate in England, they are suspected of recently moving north of the Border.

Globally, it is estimated that up to £350m a year is lost to the alcohol trade as a result of counterfeiting, despite repeated efforts to fight the problem.

The Customs team tasked with identifying and shutting down illegal stills is based in Scotland, and has already had two notable successes in south Wales and the north-west of England. At one of the sites, officers seized 5,000 litres of spirits and 25,000 empty bottles. Large quantities of methanol and industrial alcohol were also found at the site in Cardiff.

But as quickly as the team shuts down distilleries, they spring up elsewhere, and the trend is to keep moving north.

A senior Customs investigator told Scotland on Sunday the gangs had identified and copied every aspect of legal, commercial drinks production.

"It is not just a case of distilling and pouring it into plastic bottles as used to be the case," he said. "Today, they will have a bottling plant, labelling facilities, cardboard boxes bearing the name of major high street brands and a sophisticated distribution network. They even have copies of the duty stamps recently introduced precisely to try to eradicate this problem."

He added: "They realise the public wants the best brands, so that is what they are endeavouring to copy."

Most chilling of all are the risks the criminals are prepared to take with the health of their customers. "The first step in the operation is to obtain the basic spirit required for the distilling process and in these cases that means going abroad," said the source.

"Spain and Portugal are the two main countries of origin for the alcohol. It is imported in a raw form, often as windscreen wiper fluid arriving in industrial tankers before the spirit is treated to remove many of the ingredients until they are left with a simple alcohol or so-called 'potable spirit'.

"Because it comes into the country as say, windscreen wiper fluid, there is no duty to be paid on it. But after the 'cleansing' process it is ready to be turned into white spirit."

White spirits are the favoured choice of the gangs because, unlike whisky, vodka and gin are almost always mixed with other drinks, making it easier to mask the taste difference.

The price of the counterfeit spirits varies depending on the accuracy of the copying, but a typical price is around £5 - half to a third of the normal retail price. If the copy is near perfect, the price tag to consumers could be very close to the legitimate one, maximising profit for the gang. Customs believe the vast majority of pubs, clubs and stores buying the counterfeit products will be fully aware of their origins but turn a blind eye.

In Scotland alone, Diageo annually bottles 42 million cases of whisky and white spirit, along with 10 million cases of so-called RTD (ready to drink) products such as alcopops.

The firm has joined forces, along with other leading drinks companies, including Pernod-Ricard and Bacardi Brown-Forman with the International Federation of Spirit Producers (IFSP). Experts from the organisation have developed a special technique specifically to identify counterfeit white spirits with an easy-to-use dipstick method.

An IFSP spokesman said: "We recognise that counterfeit products can represent a serious threat to the health of consumers and a decrease of revenue to governments through the avoidance of tax and duty. It also damages the integrity of official brand names.

"We liaise with all appropriate law enforcement authorities and provide information and analytical techniques relating to the recognition and detection of counterfeit products."

In 2003, a 42-year-old Musselburgh woman died and a 39-year-old from Tranent ended up seriously ill in hospital after drinking bootleg vodka.

The two women had consuming a large amount of Vodka Russia, which was found to contain high levels of methanol.

Methanol, a highly toxic form of alcohol, is produced by the distillation process but is largely removed by sophisticated commercial drinks firms. Gangs counterfeiting the products have much greater difficulty controlling the amount of methanol.

Typically, just 4ml of methanol can cause blindness and an 80-150ml dose can be fatal.

The effect depends partly on the weight of the drinker. Half a millilitre of methanol per kilogram of the drinker's weight causes heart or respiratory failure leading to death.

Sufferers who do not die may remain in a coma for a week and suffer permanent blindness.

Those who ingest small amounts of methanol will suffer from an upset stomach, dizziness and vision problems, which are similar to the effects of drinking ethanol, "normal" alcohol. However, after symptoms subside they return 6 to 30 hours later with greater severity.

The full article contains 933 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 22 April 2007 12:03 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Alcohol & binge drinking
 
1

www.scottwebb.co.uk.,

22/04/2007 00:35:15

Well thats one way to stop people buying non UK taxed humped booze

2

Faye,

Scotland 22/04/2007 00:46:32

In the late 80's cheap Italian wine apparently laced with methyl alcohol killed at least 20 Italians.

3

Parallax,

Hong Kong, China 22/04/2007 02:08:48

Thank you Scotsman.com for giving all a say in this matter. People in Hong Kong commented quite a bit on this happening in England - it is simply State Supported Addiction designed to enrich the few at the cost of the nation.
(Jardine - Matheson is the #2 employer in Hong Kong - The Chinese Gov't is #1)

4

U. Lukenatmepal?,

Southern China 22/04/2007 03:23:32

Quite right #5 Dragonhead. I've come across fake Great Wall red wine (a respectable and improving Chinese brand) in a local restaurant here. Looked purple and tasted like alcoholic vanilla flavouring. One sip was enough - you certainly wouldn't want to 'gan bei' (bottoms up) this stuff at a banquet.

The basic problem is that high profit margins on cheap-to-produce commodities encourage the unscrupulous.

5

Tatties ower the side,

Johanneburg 22/04/2007 04:19:44

#4 Winston Looks like you have been supping at some of the dodgy booze. Better go to bed now and sleep it off....

6

Guga,

Rockall 22/04/2007 05:16:00

Stick to whisky, preferably single malts, or make your own.

7

Fayneant,

NZ 22/04/2007 06:04:00

Cleaning products sold as booze. Congratulations - Scotland is now officially the new Ukraine.

8

MickyFinn,

Central scotland 22/04/2007 06:21:06

Sobering thought whilst buying from your local corner shop or from the local hostelry where nobody knows your name unless its on the tic list!!!

9

The Daleks,

22/04/2007 07:07:20

HOME BREW.

Why not turn all of those useless fruits and vegetables your wife buys into alcohol?

AND.

If there's any surplus booze left over, you can always sell it to tramps and sailors!!

10

Boy Wonder,

22/04/2007 07:19:03

I'm glad I don't drink alcohol. But, how would you know you're buying this poison? Are there tell-tale signs apart from dropping down dead?

11

Kenny A,

Scotland 22/04/2007 07:37:00

#4

Doubt you are a particularly upstanding example of a good person with sentiments like these, what the hell has your post got to do with the topic, and why drag a long dead Danish/English king into the post.


Total dribble chum. Have you been on the hooch?

12

Steve E,

Malta 22/04/2007 07:54:08

Big problem in Russia

13

Pete39,

Tassy 22/04/2007 08:26:26

Ethanol is hell of a good at cleaning windows as well as windscreens. I would suggest that most OAP clubs install an old Port barrel, around forty five gallons to store this window washing liquid and get it topped up occassionally. It would be just a wee earner for the old folk to implement their pension. Jeezus keep it around forty percent, above that it dissolives the frames. A change from the golden years of the fifties where the option was to pass coal gas through a pint of milk, or pass the contents of a Brasso can through a loaf.

14

guaposcot,

madrid 22/04/2007 08:51:14

the other day i bought bells for 9euros, but that was here, the problem, the goverment in GB takes to much tax and creates a market for ilegal booze perfume e.t.c.

15

Francois Marie Arouet,

22/04/2007 08:52:19

"The two women had consuming a large amount of Vodka Russia..."

Has the proof reader been at the methanol again?

16

Falsyde,

HIGHLAND SEP 22/04/2007 09:29:30

Perhaps what we have here now are the importation of skill sets from eastern Europe et al to supplement those we don't quite have yet, or want!

17

Plattsburgh Roger,

New York 22/04/2007 09:54:39

Why do we have to drink alcohol by whatever name at all. Lets face it, alcohol has the same effect as any other drug if misused. Not only to the person taking it but also to that persons family and friends they also suffer. Believe me, life is just as good without it. Yes, I did embibe at one time but due to all the medications I am now obliged to take, life is less comlicated without alcohol and the combined effects of both. I have proved you don't need alcohol to:Face a New day. Solve A Problem. Prepare yourself to eat. End just any old day. Just like smoking if you give it up you will not be faced with the dangers of unscrupulos persons out to target you.

18

Phil Lawrence,

Tallinn 22/04/2007 10:09:51

These counterfeit booze gangs are a deadly business. Here in Estonia there was a tragedy in September 2001 when at least 67 people died and dozens were seriously harmed after drinking tainted "vodka".

The news would have been far more widespread if 9/11 hadn't happened two days after the severity of the incident had started to become clear.

This type of crime is being entered into by gangs with full knowledge of what the results of their deception can be. Therefore the crime of deliberately supplying tainted alcohol should have the charge of attempted murder attached to it.

Maybe that sounds quite dramatic but it is a great deal less dramatic than a mass poisoning incident.

19

frhugh,

Edinburgh 22/04/2007 10:13:39

The problems caused by counterfeit alcohol are infinitesimal to the problems caused by 'legal' alcohol.
Every reputable study in the world has found that where alcohol is cheap and freely available, a major increase in alcohol related violence, and health problems occur, especially among young adults.
One solution is for the Government to hype-up the tax on alcohol as it does consistently on tobacco products.

20

Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

22/04/2007 10:51:49

What a great Idea. Brought to you by the Temperance Society of Scotland.

Sell it as cheaply as possible , watch the growth iin Bright Yellow People. Edinburgh , Glasgow , Springfield.

21

c.u jimmy,

glasgow 22/04/2007 11:35:44

I hope they are not interfering with the Buckiee.yee cannie whack it!

22

Frodo the Scot,

middle earth 22/04/2007 14:41:42

19. Plattsburgh Roger, New York
Make you a deal bubba... you tend to all Americas problems .....and keep your opinions of our booze alone.....and I'll forget you exist.

23

girlperson1,

NEW Jersey, USA 22/04/2007 14:58:45

#25, Frodo the Scot

I got news for you. If Plattsburgh Roger were a real "bubba" he'd be teaching YOU how to make "moonshine" and how to drink!! LOL!!

24

okanaganguy,

kelowna, b.c. canada 22/04/2007 15:13:54

#4 winston. Is the Taliban supporting a candidate in the upcoming election.? You would be a good choice, regards

25

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 22/04/2007 15:49:59

#19 Roger...... "We" don't have to drink alcohol at all. You choose to have your sanctimonious position and i choose to enjoy alcohol. My family doesn't suffer and i do not have a problem facing a new day. Stick to your medications and let us enjoy a wee dram....

26

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22/04/2007 16:24:28
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27

TimW1234,

22/04/2007 16:25:40

#8 Guga

Are you allowed to LEGALLY make your own whisky in Scotland? But then if not, that would never stop you Guga, would it?

Also, if people are going to kill themselves with over-indulgence in non-lethal legal alcohol why not do it with illegal booze.

Either way they are still killing themselves with their addiction.

28

Bruce,

New Zealand 22/04/2007 17:28:57

I was a consumer of beer. Only over indulged in the hard stuff once when young and silly. Learned with only one lesson !
Gave up when I moved into the "senior citizen" group a few years ago.
Have survived rather longer than the hard drinkers that I used to know.

29

Jock Scot,

22/04/2007 17:31:10

# 31 Timmy

People are buying near-perfect counterfeit bottles of top-brand vodka and gin unaware the contents are a highly toxic form of alcohol, 4ml of methanol can cause blindness and an 80-150ml dose can be fatal. I would not call this over-indulgence, nor suicide, you are condoning the manufacture of lethal alcohol by criminals.

30

Theo,

Richmond Va., USA 22/04/2007 17:36:06

First off #4 stick with the subject. The purpose's of these forms is to post a view on the article/subject If you want to vent your views use your "smarts"? to find tne forums to put your view to many more for you to reach! In fact, if you wish, I will find you a Write only Memory Board to input your important thoughts.
With that being said and back to the subject. Learn from us and our Prohibition act. While there are some big differences looking at your problem crime figurers are getting many, many, Pounds to turn into payoff's, drugs, guns, knives and anything else that the U.K. has banned. Dropping the tax's back to a more reasonable will help to control the "Illegal Hooch" and drive the bad guys out of the business. Same thing with drugs. Make them legal, manufacture to a high quality, add some tax and away you go. You cannot stop all of this stuff by passing "new and improved laws etc" and if anyone thinks such will stop all of this I have a bridge I will sell you "CHEAP"!

31

Frodo the Scot,

middle earth 22/04/2007 17:36:35

26. girlperson1, NEW Jersey, USA
Another typical yankee Pea-brain who thinks they know it all, ALL mouth and NO substance. Cant you people MIND your own business for once, or are you always SO obnoxious.

32

Lennie,

FLA USA 22/04/2007 18:21:12

Hey Frodo,
Girlperson1 is correct, Plattsburg can't be a true Bubba, he is not from a Southern state. So I guess you are the real pea-brain.
I believe illegal hooch is everyones problem...And please no cracks about moonshine, my ancesters learned to make it Scotland. (We )quit drinking and hanging out in pubs after we recieved an education on the dangers of drinking.

33

Grey Beard Loon,

Virginia, USA 22/04/2007 18:37:50

It seems to me the pubs, hotels, whatever who purvey the bogus spirits would want to help law enforcement all they can. I mean, sure you save money at the front end or the deal, but you blind or kill your customer base.

Cheers.

34

Grey Beard Loon,

Virginia, USA 22/04/2007 18:41:50

And another thing. I thought the US had the monopoly on counterfeiting stuff to make people high, and then kill them. I know there has been fake heroin sold to junkies, and it's common practice to sell lookalike substances to chumps to just get their money.

I hate the thought of going into a bar for a drink and winding up permanently impaired. Evil stuff.

35

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 18:57:54

5. Dragonhead, China / 3:41am 22 Apr 2007
you wrote:
"When folk her use 'anti-freeze' to keep strawberries 'fresh' anything is possible"

Hey Dragonhead-man
Surprise..surprise,,,surprise
I agree with you "anything is possible":

Including a massacare of students in Tiananmen Sq. 1989, because they had the guts to stage a sit-down protest in support for freedom and democracy.

On my last visit to Beijing with four friends plus our translator we eat at a Peiking Duck Restaurant,

Two friends who drank red wine there, became violently sick the next day. The rest of us drank Chinese beer.

We eat in the part of that resturant where only Chinese people eat, with family. The greasy Duck with its head attached was delicious.

And our meal cost 5 times less than next door in the tourist part of the restuarant.

About 1/3 of the tables had Communist Chinese troops eating there .
Why do Chinese people eat with their mouths open. Looks like the inside of a trash can in East L.A.

Have a nice day

GC

36

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 19:04:31

38. Grey Beard Loon, Virginia, USA /

From a statistical point approx 800,000 Americans die every year from complications caused by over drinking regulated booze and smoking nicotene.

Compare that to the Media on tainted booze is just plain paronia .

Our country has the monoply on WMD with Russia a close second. IRAQ had none, but we attack them anyway , resulting in 000's of deaths.

Again compare that to this media about tainted booze.

Priorities ...Get a grip man

Have a nice day

GC

37

Grey Beard Loon,

Virginia, USA 22/04/2007 19:19:52

Yes, GC, I must agree with your assessment of media BS. It sells advertising and papers, if nothing else. It also sells wars to a frankly often moronic public. If the news were all good, nobody would switch on FOX "news" for enlightenment. How would Rush Limbo keep his job? Does he have a job? Jerry Foulwell would have no followers.

But I stray from the topic: It is a pity there are those in the world who choose to make their fortunes at the expense of others, whether it be by selling tainted intoxicants, or gutting the retirement funds of their employees, or encouraging people to send all their money in hopes of pie in the sky eternal rewards. I think I'm going to go get a drink.

38

GalacticCannibal,

22/04/2007 19:30:31

41. Grey Beard Loon, Virginia, USA / 8:19pm 22 Apr 2007

you wrote:
"It is a pity there are those in the world who choose to make their fortunes at the expense of others, whether it be by selling tainted intoxicants, or gutting the retirement funds of their employees, or encouraging people to send all their money in hopes of pie in the sky eternal rewards".


Hey-man,
EVIL is international, and those who do such dispicable deeds, are evil.
GC

Sad part is, it is not going to change.

39

Sambo,

The deep south 22/04/2007 19:38:45

#21 frhugh,
Got to disagree. The more the government adds on tax the more the bootleggers are encouraged to conduct business whether it be tobacco or alcohol.
This leads to unregulated supply.
As the price of legitimate products rise then the illegitimate cheaper stuff starts to flow in.
Reduce the so called "sin tax" which really hurts the poor, then the market for this crap dries up.

40

Sambo,

The deep south 22/04/2007 19:48:05

Jesus probably started all this bootlegging crap when he turned water into wine.
Scots have sortof kept up the tradition over the centuries by turning beer into pish.

41

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 20:02:21

#44 Sambo

How did Jesus do that ?
I mean he didn't even have paper to wipe his ass in those days. So they tell me.

Common Sambe you can do better than that. as a defender of the truth and freedom .

GC

42

Sambo,

The deep south 22/04/2007 20:17:06

Hi GC,
I figured I'd get you're attention. I'm headed to Auld Scotia end of next month, my annual pilgrimage.
An old Scotsman died and before he passed away he told his friend that he'd like to have a bottle of whisky poured on his grave as a last farewell.
Sure as his word the friend stood at the grave, then unzipped his fly and declared that "am daeing whit ye wanted ma friend, ah hope ye'll no mind if ah cycle it through ma kidneys furst".

43

Virgil,

West Vancouver,BC 22/04/2007 20:30:35

I have stated before in these posts that I am partial to Springbank 15 year old Campbeltown Single Malt and I have commended the citizens of that fair town in Argyle for their contribution to civilized gastronomy. I also hold the same court of respect for the purveyors of fine wines throughout the wine growing regions of this planet. I have never knowingly purchased a bottle of ALCOHOL and the only time I have sensed it on my palate is after I gargle in the morning with branded mouthwash.

44

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 20:32:11

46. Sambo, The deep south

?Sambo - ?
(Hey Sambo -man)

???????????????????(????)

"That's one hell of a great joke . made me laugh my balls of (but not quite)"

??
(good bye)

????????
(Galactic Cannibal)

45

Sambo,

The deep south 22/04/2007 20:39:05

GC.
I'm surprised you have a pair.
One question, I notice you post often on the Scotsman. Have you ever lived in Scotland? How do you form your opinions of Scottish life?
Is all your information gained from your PC?
Just asking.
Sambo.

46

Frodo the Scot,

middle earth 22/04/2007 21:29:48

36. Lennie, FLA USa Why dont you and your ilk crawl back under that slime you so dearly love and quit trying to infect our country. Better still get some ointment for the haemerrhoids developing in YOUR MOUTH.

47

Sambo,

The deep south 22/04/2007 22:20:34

weeshooie1.
Thanks, of course the only thing to add to scotch is good Sotttish water. I'm not a hard liquor drinker, I prefer beer. I'll be paying a pretty penny for my pint this year with the Sterling exchange via the US dollar currently 2-1.
When I was stationed at the US embassy in Kuwait, my bride ran the liquor store at the embassy. She used to order a container of Fosters every three months. That's 1950 cases.
She sold it to the embassy staff for $5.75 a case.
I did acquire a taste for "the boys in blue".
I'm looking forward to my stay in Largs.
Thanks shooie, I'll be in your neck of the woods with the wee Scottish wife next year.

48

Krusty The Clown,

Sobriety 22/04/2007 23:07:24

Simple... Don't Drink... your life and the lives of so many others will be all the better for it...

Most Scots don't have the savvy to drink properly - we're just happy to stagger along getting 'pure pished man'...

...and we could have had it so much better.

49

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 23:17:25

49. Sambo, The deep south

Hey-man as a Scotsman who abandoned Scotland (physically), you have every right to ask those 3 questions.

I have never lived in bonnie Scotland,

I have spent time there climbing the Nevis peaks, and wandering through the Highlands.

Drinking in pubs, getting wasted, and checking out the golf with my father at St Andrews.
A bloody windy place to have a g.course, its bloody freezing there .

I have blood relatives living in DOLLAR in Clackmannanshire.
Not far from Glen Eagles where the World's head gangsters held their G-8 summit. What hypocrisy that was.

Been up to the Isle of Lewis, friendly people but a bit strange (who am i to call anyone strange)

Almost got arrested once in Edinburgh near the Castle on Princess Street.

Been to a relatives wedding in The Trossachs very beautiful place. Gallons of Scotch were drunk .

As an avid reader (non-fiction) I follow affairs in many countries where I have been.

If you are visiting Largs take a brolly. And remember that monster moved to Loch Lomond from L.Ness.

Stay in a lodge with a view of the Loch and on a moon lite night you may see that monster bugger..

My friends and I did during a psychedelic trip.

Hey Sambo-man, the $ is way down . £1 = $2

so take a fist full of dollars.

Adios

GC

50

girlperson1,

NEW Jersey, USA 22/04/2007 23:20:13

#50 Frodo the pea-brain, why would americans want to infect your country? Seems you've done a good enough job of that on your own.

51

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 23:22:17

50. Frodo the Scot, middle earth

Hey Frodo -man chill out . there is only one Planet earth, and Scotland is but a tiny part of it.

Nationalism and Patriotism are as bad as religion. They are crowd control systems that cause great suffering and distruction on our earth. There are catalysts for killing people

Chill man

GC

52

girlperson1,

NEW Jersey, USA 22/04/2007 23:25:17

#35, Frodo the pea-brain who lives in Dante's Inferno, the 9th Level. have YOU looked in a mirror today????

53

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 22/04/2007 23:33:43

49. Sambo, The deep south

Just one more bit of stuff. My friends (3) and I got wasted on the summit of B.Nevis.
Drank 2 bottles of Glenfiddich malt whisky when we reach the top.
Getting back down was a blast.

Galactic Cannibal

54

Rennie,

Upstate NY 22/04/2007 23:49:39

Well how about just using the real stuff to wash windshields, after you run it through your kidneys first?

55

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, Californinia 23/04/2007 02:08:52

59. Rennie, Upstate NY / 12:49am 23 Apr 2007

Hey rennie -man.

My kidneys are 99.999% effecient, So like the electirc car you can drink from the tail pipe .001% pure water . That's more pure than the tap water you drink in Upstate NY.

SAY WHAT !!!!!

Galactic Cannibal

56

socialmedic,

23/04/2007 02:13:22

Well, number 1 Scottweb, #3 from that bastion of stellar human rights treatment at his misinformed, China face saving slander again. Clearly the evil here is too much reliance on mass production and distribution - something that no part of China, be it the less than 10 percent who control the slave economy or the rest who do the slave wage labor, can operate without. Better to drive out into the country and buy our scotch from local distllers, if any have survived the rape of that very mass market globalism that is the basis of Chinese economic imperialism.

57

Lennie,

FLA USA 23/04/2007 02:24:23

Frodo,I think you are infected with something called hate. WHAT HAS AMERICA DONE TO YOU?, personally, for you to spit such venim about its citizens. Stick to the topic.
It is on the dangers of illegal alcohol. Maybe the amount of exported window cleaner should be tracked or is there a way to make it harder to
separate.

58

William L,

Magalia, CA, USA 23/04/2007 02:37:34

Fascinating!

Santayana was right. History teaches us nothing; except that we never learn from history. This is neither the time nor the place to enter into a tirade about the 'human condition" but it would exco almost every preceding post! Though I appreciate a '"wee doch and doriss" from time to time, I cannot forget my late wheelchair bound uncle. He was a victim of contaminated "white lightning" during our "great experiment" -- prohibition. The methanol or glycol or fusel oil disconnected his spine and he could never stand or walk again. That vision from seventy years ago still haunts me as I bend the elbow. (Laphroaig or Glenmorangie, if you please!)

Just a story to remind you that the search for protection from the evils of "John Barleycorn" seem doomed to failure because WE want the "buzz" or escape at the cheapest price and don't want anyone telling us we can't do it.

59

CaliforniaDreamin,

San Francisco California 23/04/2007 04:25:31

Diaego bottles 42 milliion cases a year.
The U.S. consumes about 400 million gal. of gasoline a day.

The want to produce enough ethanol to blend in ~15% ethanol. That's about 60 million gal. of ethanol a DAY.

It going to be one hell-of-party. (IF you survive.)

60

scrumpyjack,

U.S.A. 23/04/2007 04:50:07

I hope your message is being heard in the US, as I'm sure it's intented for distribution here or manufacture as well. We like every one else, everywhere are sick of the lawlessness of our world. It seems it only has got worse as we supposedly progress as a society?
jack Stuart

61

socialmedic,

USA 23/04/2007 05:11:14

#19, we do not need proof of that. I myself quit alcohol for my undergraduate years which propelled me stars above the others who became jealous and endevaored the rest of thier lives to bring me down and rob me of everything I earned. Some of them now prance about alcohol free in my face as if they invented the notion. And I in their face will have my deep red with a good medium rare, a sparkling with a fine fish or even sparklers after work because I feel like it and enjoy it and don't give a damn what people who drive alcoholics to drink think about it. There are far more important problems to worry about, like how to stop the third world from breeding the whole world into bankruptcy, starvation and dispair. Figure that out and I might restrict my drinking to dinnertime.

62

The Wizard,

OZ 23/04/2007 05:59:14

Sambo & Weeshooie
I will stick to Laphroaig. The 'Quarter Cask' is quite a dram.
Never got the taste for beer here. Cold beer in frozen glasses.

Prices in the UK are pretty high, I paid six pounds and ten pence for a glass of red wine at a hotel in the Lake district last year. Had Cumberland sausage for dinner, cremated to the point it looked like black pudding. Considering they make it there you would think they could cook it properely.
Of course the Lakes were always overpriced.
Excuse any errors, typing with one eye, had cataract surgery this morning.

Wiz

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voltaire's janny,

23/04/2007 07:55:01

alco-tip #282

When visiting USA do not even consider duty free. This is a euro-concept only really possible where duty is extortionate.

One of my many tipples is G&T. I go to the liquor store and buy 3 x1.75L plastic bottles of Gordon's for about $20, though it can be as low as $18.50 but then add the tax at the till in that time honored penny-generating way the septics put up with. Depending on state that can be 0 (Nevada!) to 8.5%.

So for about 3 x $22 or 35 pounds (sorry, thanks to Bill & George I have no £ sign) you get 5.25 L

The best part - this is legal duty paid, you put it in checked baggage (hard case) and it doesn't break.

Now get some fresh ice, a lime, a straight glass, Schweppes tonic from a small can or bottle, ans suck it down like hannibal Lector savouring Chianti.

MMMM

64

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 23/04/2007 11:27:10

The scam - which could cause blindness or even death - is so serious that Customs chiefs have set up a dedicated squad to track down and shut the illegal factories churning out thousands of bottles a day.

This is the story.
Then the photograph is so pretty that anyone would love to touch the tip of the glass ad say " Good bye my love". Why do you give us pretty picture and deadly venomous story?


 

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