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Published Date: 14 June 2009
A SCHEME to deradicalise Scots who have fallen prey to Islamic extremists will be launched by anti-terror chiefs, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.
Vulnerable individuals – including children – will be targeted under the plan, which is aimed at preventing disaffected young Muslims from becoming involved in terrorism.

The initiative, to be modelled on an English programme, will also be open to
people being lured into other forms of political violence, such as fanatics on the fringes of Scottish nationalism or the animal rights movement.

Authorities south of the Border last year revealed they had put in place secret measures to wean people off extremism. Their scheme – the Channel Project – claims to have turned around more than 200 people believed to have been vulnerable to terror recruiters, either face-to-face or online. Graduates of the programme include a 13-year-old white boy who converted to Islam and became obsessed with beheading, and a 50-year-old man.

Now a senior civil servant in the Scottish Government has confirmed a "tartanised" version of the Channel Project will be launched. Nick Croft, of the Preventing Violent Extremism Unit, told a terrorism conference last week: "Within the next six months we will see a Channel process come to Scotland." He was speaking after Aamer Anwar, a solicitor who has defended terror suspects, had told the same Edinburgh conference that there was little or no support for offenders or alleged offenders flirting with extremist ideas.

A Scottish Channel Project would see parents, teachers, social workers and others able to refer individuals for a whole variety of interventions.

Officials fine-tuning the project will have to wrestle with guidelines to separate those at risk of being lured into terrorism and those who have gone too far, such as Mohammed Atif Siddique, the student from Alva, Clackmannanshire, jailed for eight years for internet-related terrorist offences.

However, they would be building on expertise south of the Border, where 228 individuals have apparently been deradicalised: nobody referred to the Channel Project has gone on to offend. UK officials now say they have a clear profile of the kind of person who could be lured into political violence. Islamist terrorists, experts believe, often target young men who know little of their religion, either converts or "reverts", and who have personal problems or chaotic lifestyles. Most of those identified in the Channel Project have been under 25. Nine out of ten were seen as vulnerable to al-Qaeda-inspired terror groups.

However, English authorities have also identified individuals who could succumb to other extremists, including those on the far right.

The Home Office and police kept the Channel Project under wraps until last year, citing "sensitivities". Practitioners stress they are not spying on their subjects, merely trying to make them more "resilient" to extremism. In some cases, individuals have been helped into training or education; in others, youth work. For some, especially young Muslims, imams have helped them understand that Muslim theology opposes the kind of indiscriminate violence celebrated by al-Qaeda.

Moreover, insiders stress that they could have helped several high-profile terrorists stay out of trouble – if they had been alerted to their behaviour. They cite the example of Nick Reilly, a white Briton with Asperger's who tried to blow up a café in Exeter. Reilly, who injured only himself in the 2008 attack, had converted to Islam after reading extremist websites and knew little about the religion.

Extremists north of the Border have targeted similarly vulnerable people. Tartan terrorist Paul Smith was just 17 when he was convicted of trying to poison Cherie Blair. He had previously shown signs of extreme views and threatening behaviour. Although firmly focused on al-Qaeda, counter-terrorism officers in Scotland keep a close eye on other violent extremists, including those on the far right and on the violent fringes of Scottish nationalism.

Osama Saeed, chief executive of the Scottish-Islamic Foundation, has cast doubt on the commitment of Scottish authorities to deal with violent racists. He said: "I think we are going to have to wait and see if they are going to take right-wing extremists as seriously as al-Qaeda terrorists."

The Association of Police Chief Officers in Scotland last night declined to confirm Croft's assertion that Channel would be up and running north of the Border in six months. A spokeswoman said the body was consulting on "all aspects" of Contest 2, the UK government's anti-terror strategy.





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  • Last Updated: 14 June 2009 12:57 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Terrorism in the UK
 
1

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 00:16:35
"The initiative, to be modelled on an English programme, will also be open to people being lured into other forms of political violence, such as fanatics on the fringes of Scottish nationalism or the animal rights movement."


Sounds promising. Given the loonspud cybernats that crop up here from time to time I hope they can develop an online programme.
2

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 00:30:50
See, for example, post #2 in the previous story entitled "Labour accuses SNP of betraying teachers" - a dangerous extremist if there ever was one.

Probably a red-faced chippy man of short stature who drives an under-powered Korean car too close to the one in front, with a saltire and SCO on his car number plates. That's how you can tell them.
3

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 00:48:24
What silly comments from you Fifi (no that is not a death threat)

This (the article) would appear on the face if it to be good news. I am not sure if I agree with the term de-radicalisation as there isn't anything wrong with being radical if the circumstances call for it.
De-extremism perhaps. Extremism is bad wherever you encounter it.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 00:54:19
Well I bet I'm right about how to profile a potential cybernat extremist. The car number plates, and the bulging veins on the temple (though not necessarily anywhere else) are sure signs.
5

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 01:10:46
You seem to emjoy imagining the physical characteristics and driving habits of ''cybernats''.

I think it's more al quaeda and the far right fascists that the programme is aimed at - or those diddies that sent letter bombs I can't remember what they were called.

But I'm sure if there is a way of reporting Scotsman posters you'll find it.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 01:13:50
Well, it's interesting. Twice this week I've been tailgated by red faced wee men driving cars with SCO numberplates, once in a 20 mph zone outside a school. Coincidence? I wonder?
7

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 01:25:19
I wonder what the leader of the SRSP thinks about all this? No doubt we'll hear from him in the early morning.
8

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 02:02:24
Oh come off it you can't seriously think you are being tailed by cybernats ?

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donald,

glasgow 14/06/2009 05:28:44
#7
"I wonder what the leader of the SRSP thinks about all this? No doubt we'll hear from him in the early morning."

The Scottish Republican Socialist Party disbanded in favour of becoming a cross party MOVEMENT, to join the SSP. It did not believe in having a party within a party. The SSP did allow Unionist parties to join, eventually leading to the withdrawal of the SRSM from the SSP. This had nothing to do withe apolitical split around the time of the creation of Solidarity, as both have pro and anti Scottish Republican factions. That particular and fatal split was more to do with the pro and anti Tommy Sheridan attacks.

As for Terrorism, we regard the British State, and Labour in particular, as being British Nationalist and Imperialist State Sponsored Terrorists.

As for "leaders", we do not believe in the cult of leadership. The leader that can lead us into the promised land can just as easily lead us out of it.

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brianmca3,

auld reekie 14/06/2009 09:49:20
funny thing is ,in my area i have helped out at elections,with a friend who was in the snp,the dirty tricks and downright fraud that went on was disgraceful
no other party be they tory lib or whatever did anything underhand in the run up to the election
labour had a trick with the old EEN when it was a huge sheet of paper
slip it under the door of an empty flat,near the time of the cards telling you which polling station you had to go to
come back ,slip out paper with mail and cards,put mail back through,keep carrds for the poll opening,cast votes on these cards as nobody came back into the area just to vote
silverknownes old folks home was another with the postal vote,absolute disgrace
when the general election gets called ,it will be interesting to see what jiggery pokery goes on
like in england with the knocking on doors and taking away someones filled in postal vote
so to say nationalists are terrorists is horse manure,sure every political group has those who would go to far if they could,but dont as they know what will happen to them
i dont see hamza the hook getting deported for calling for westerners to be beheaded,you dont get that in scottish politics well not yet
#13 i would say foulkes is dangerous as he tries to stir up lies and propaganda on behalf of his london masters
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Fifi la Bonbon,

14/06/2009 09:51:52
#8 - just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
17

PictiScot,

14/06/2009 09:55:36
The game is up for multi-culturalism,diversity and unfettered immigration. No more taxpayers money should be wasted on these foreigners.

Those 'Scots' muslims such as saeed would do well to heed.

Over many centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak mainly ENGLISH,and Gaelic, not urdu, Polsh, Arabic, Chinese, , or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!

Most Scots believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our customs, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Scottish freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

18

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 10:09:35
17 Why don't you go and drag your knuckles somewhere else.

What a pillock you are, you can't even make up your own post you had to copy that Australian dicks speech.

Jesus the standard of racists these days is appalling.




19

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 10:14:48
11 I think you've picked it up wrong. This is the Scottish government behind this - and if it has support from Aamer Anwar then I doubt there is anything to be worried about.

They are just going to try and divert young people away from extremism (of any form) not brainwash them into Britishness.
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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 14/06/2009 11:21:33
#17 Pict
Did you notice that the recent swine flu leaflets were available in about 20 languages but no gaelic I'm afraid. Urdu, Arabic, Polish, etc but no gaelic.
#19 Observer
Mr Anwar supports sharia courts in Scotland as long as they don't interfere with criminal cases. Although if he doesn't agree with the criminal verdict then he will speak up and be charged with contempt of court ( his recent Saddique case where the defendant got 8 years for terrorism offences )

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/Sharia-courts-set-to-bring.4573444.jp
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Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 11:30:22
While this "de-radicalisation" initiative is obviously welcome, it would be more to the point if similar effort was put into preventing children and young people falling prey to religious delusion in the first place.

Fundamentalism does not simply spring into being from nowhere. It grows from the fertile ground of minds infected with the ignorance, fear and primitive superstitions of "mainstream" religion.

It is time for a new Scottish Enlightenment. And let's do a more thorough job this time.

22

Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 11:33:43
20
Fred Leeson

"Did you notice that the recent swine flu leaflets were available in about 20 languages but no gaelic I'm afraid. Urdu, Arabic, Polish, etc but no gaelic."

You are a liar.

http://tiny.pl/3jrc

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Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 11:38:17
22
Big Jock McDoc

Islam is a religion not a race.

Pointless pedantry. The mindset is the same.

24

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 12:01:01
22 And the Arabs, Chinese, Polish, also referred to in Mr Knuckle draggers post ?

20 We have Jewish religious courts in this country and have done for years. They deal with religious matters.
We have halal butchers and Islam friendly mortgage companies - no one is proposing anything more radical than that.

I am an atheist but people are free to follow their religion in the private sphere as long as it doesn't impact on me. To try and deny people that right is also a form of extremism.
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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 14/06/2009 12:06:27
#24 Electric

I'm not a liar.
I said the leaflet we got didn't mention gaelic was available. I wasn't aware of it being available online in gaelic. I've just looked at my leaflet again and there's no mention of it being available in gaelic if I go online.
Here's the leaflet that I got for you to check for yourself :

http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/2009/05/wheres-gaelic.html
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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 14/06/2009 12:09:19
#26 Observer
Unfortunately it does impact on you if you're a taxpayer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512043/Muslim-husbands-wife-extra-benefits-ministers-recognise-polygamy.html
27

Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 12:24:51
27
Fred Leeson

"I said the leaflet we got didn't mention gaelic was available."

Again you lie. That is not what you said at all. You baldly staed twice that there was "no gaelic". Why?

Why did you simply assume that there was "no gaelic"? This seems a pretty stupid assumption considering the status of Gaelic. Why didn't you bother to check?

I'll tell you why. Because the imagined lack of a Gaelic version fed into your petty prejudices and the pathetic need to seek affirmation in a false sense of persecution that is a common characteristic of reactionary whingers.

I suggest you reflect on the fact that your lie is exactly the kind of tactic used by the BNP/NF in their contemptible campaign to promote social division and conflict.

28

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 12:33:04
28 Oh for goodness sake Fred.

That is pretty desperate isn't it ? A Daily Mail article about benefit claimants ? And I should be worried about it as a tax payer ? Well you've convinced me - I shall no longer be concerned about the £1.3 trillion that the Govt has spent on the banking system but shall focus instead on benefits claimed by muslims. Exactly as the Daily Mail would want me too.

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Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 12:39:11
27
Fred Leeson

The illustration you referred to shows a list of TRANSLATIONS and alternative versions. Gaelic and English are both languages of original publication. Gaelic is NOT a translation.

Thinking may not be as much fun as knee-jerking, but it does have the advantage of making it somewhat less likely that you will make a complete @rse of yourself.

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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 14/06/2009 12:40:32
#29 Electric
I didn't "assume" that there was no gaelic.
I checked all the languages available by post. I then checked to see what languages were available on the web. It said I could get Farsi etc but no gaelic.
#30 Observer
Well you should have said "as long as it doesn't impact on me [too much at the moment]"
31

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 12:41:43
LOL brilliant Fred - I don't usually follow links but I did with yours - a very intellectual article indeed illustrated with a still from the harem scene in the Carry-on classic ''Up the chastity belt''.

Your ''point'' is invalid there is no recognition of Sharia law in that article - it would apply to any culture in which polygamy features, second wives are treated as dependants.

And as the article states less than 3% of Islamic marriages globally are polygamous. Polygamy is very rarely, if ever, found in UK muslims.
32

Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 12:43:57
32
Fred Leeson

"I then checked to see what languages were available on the web."

Another lie. Here is the link again. Gaelic is second from the top of the list.

http://tiny.pl/3jrc

33

Electric Hermit,

14/06/2009 12:49:14
33
Observer

"And as the article states less than 3% of Islamic marriages globally are polygamous. Polygamy is very rarely, if ever, found in UK muslims."

A sense of proportion is not something one would ever associate with reactionary bigots.

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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 14/06/2009 12:50:38
#34
You won't get very far in arguments by constantly calling people liars. But obviously this fits in with your agenda. It doesn't work with me or anyone looking for the truth. You know that I meant what was written on the leaflet about web languages available. Interesting character you.
#33
I'm not sure what link you checked out.
35

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 12:53:15
36 the one you posted :)

 
  

 
 

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