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Published Date: 22 March 2009
CALLS for a full investigation into the behaviour of senior Royal Bank of Scotland figures strengthened last night after it emerged traders were buying billions of pounds of toxic debt at the same time Sir Fred Goodwin said the bank did not deal in the sub-prime market.

The company's board has claimed it was not told about £34bn of sub-prime mortgages purchased by RBS in 2006 which led to the bank's near-collapse.

If it is discovered Goodwin kept information from the directors there could be legal consequences, but if the board was aware of the bank's high-risk strategy they could all be held responsible for its demise.

The bank had to be bailed out by the Government last year when the sub-prime market collapsed in America as millions of people failed to make payments on mortgages they had been given which they could not afford.

The company's sub-prime mortgages were largely bought by Citizens Bank, an American RBS subsidiary, in 2006. It took on £14bn of the toxic assets.

Months later, in April 2007, one of America's largest sub-prime lenders, New Century Financial, revealed it sold 2,000 toxic mortgages to another unit of the bank, RBS Greenwich Capital Financial Products.

At the same time Fremont General Corporation, another major sub-prime lender, announced it received $1bn of credit from RBS.

In total, RBS accumulated £34bn of sub-prime mortgages, including £20bn bought by the investment banking arm. It is thought RBS's system of annual cash bonuses encouraged traders to buy up the assets.

However, Goodwin repeatedly stated at the time that RBS "did not do sub-prime", and in the foreword to RBS's 2006 annual report he wrote: "Sound control of risk is fundamental to the Group's business… Central to this is our long-standing aversion to sub-prime lending, wherever we do business."

But in the summer of 2007, he admitted to the board that traders had in fact bought up billions of pounds of toxic mortgages. RBS started to announce losses toward the end of 2007, which culminated in a loss of £28bn last month, the largest in British corporate history. They were rescued by the Government in November last year, when they offered a £20bn package to take on the majority of the toxic assets.

The board of RBS claimed the mortgages were bought without its approval and it did not know about the problem until it was too late.

A former RBS board director said: "Sir Fred told the board that the bank was not exposed to sub-prime. Only a year later did he inform the other directors that the bank had, in fact, built up a multi-billion-pound exposure."

If Goodwin, who took early retirement from the bank with a £17m pension, hid information about toxic assets from the board he could face legal action.

However, Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Tavish Scott said it was "difficult to imagine" that the board did not know what its executives were doing.

He said: "Gordon Brown's regulatory regime failed, the country knows that now. But for the former RBS board to wash its hands of any knowledge is unbelievable."

Scottish Tory finance spokesman Derek Brownlee called on the directors of RBS to take collective responsibility for the crisis, whether or not they knew about the acquisition of sub-prime mortgages.

He said: "If the board was not directly aware then there would be some sort of delegated process in place. But it would be very surprising if they did not know about such significant contracts being made in their name."

Goodwin was unavailable for comment but a spokesman for RBS said: "The reality is that, like many others, RBS was heavily exposed to problems in sub-prime markets via its own operations.

"This is despite the fact that we did not engage directly in sub-prime issuing."

A spokeswoman for the Financial Services Authority said: "As a matter of policy we would never comment on whether or not any investigation will be carried out."

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  • Last Updated: 22 March 2009 11:41 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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1

The Brain,

22/03/2009 00:22:09
Wow! You're kidding me, right?

A top banker is a liar? Most rich people who do not do anything productive are sociopaths. They get their money not through invention, talent or work but through kicking people in the balls and stealing their wallets.

Of course Lady Fred Goodwin is a liar, why else is he so rich? Did he cure cancer? Build renewable energy sourses? No, the people who are working on those are getting 30-70k a year for their efforts. So why does Lady Goodwin get so much? Because he exists to serve himself.

What a shocker!
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/03/2009 02:25:28

Whitewash as usual will be used to cover tracks, and all will become History.

RBS, as once was is now just a History!

Issues such as, "Calls for RBS toxic debt probe", will become pointless, as we all Know!, because they that have lost, due to the downfall of the RBS, justice will never replace what has affected them.

Greed took President in Global Financial Losses, now we all will suffer because of this, and the ones that,..
..'Milked the System', will still be very rich, very rich indeed!





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Marian,

22/03/2009 06:49:42
From Iain Macwhirter of the Sunday Herald today:-

"Historians will look back with astonishment at the callousness and stupidity of policymakers in this crisis - not just because they allowed Northern Rock to lend £800 million of its "suicide mortgages" even after nationalisation, but because they consistently put the welfare of the banks above the welfare of society. It doesn't even make economic sense. As we now know, much of the public money that has been handed to the City in loans, guarantees and capital injections has gone overseas and into paying banking debt. There has been no appreciable recovery in bank lending to business, as the squeals and cries from the private sector confirm.

A rational economic policy would have concentrated first on creating economic activity by the most direct routes: through spending on public works like houses and schools, and through increasing the financial resources of the least well off, who can be relied upon to spend the money in the shops rather than hoard it in vaults. Only by promoting employment, the creation of real value in goods and services, can resources be generated to revive the financial system - though hopefully on very different terms from the past. It is so obvious that I despair at having to keep saying it. The government appears to believe that it is only by creating debt that an economy flourishes. The entire thrust of its policy is to encourage more lending through near-zero interest rates and through printing money. This is utter madness.

What we are seeing is a collapse of work as wealth is drained from the productive economy. The Bank of England last week noted that labour costs per employee are falling fast as companies impose a wage freeze and introduce schemes to cut pay. The government is congratulating itself on the "flexibility" of the UK labour market, but it shouldn't. What plunging labour costs indicate is that the real economy is actually sliding into depression. When incomes decline,
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Marian,

22/03/2009 06:50:13
continued....

What we are seeing is a collapse of work as wealth is drained from the productive economy. The Bank of England last week noted that labour costs per employee are falling fast as companies impose a wage freeze and introduce schemes to cut pay. The government is congratulating itself on the "flexibility" of the UK labour market, but it shouldn't. What plunging labour costs indicate is that the real economy is actually sliding into depression. When incomes decline, shops close and manufacturers go bust - it is one of the most savage feedback loops in economics, and it is only our fixation on abstract financial indicators that prevents us from seeing it.

Printing money in this context will lead inexorably to stagflation - industrial shrinkage overlaid with rising prices and crippling debt. As commodity prices recover, and the pound sinks, British imports will increase in cost and our debt-laden and idle economy will be impoverished more rapidly than anyone can imagine. Savings will be destroyed by rampant inflation while more businesses close. With borrowing heading for £100 billion this year, and perhaps three times that in future years, the British state is itself facing insolvency. There will be massive job-shedding from the public sector.

But the government appears interested solely in trying to halt the slide in house prices by boosting borrowing. This is politically suicidal. No Labour government can win an election against a backdrop of over three million unemployed. We learned that exactly 30 years ago when the Conservatives launched their 1979 election campaign on the most successful slogan in political advertising history: "Labour Isn't Working".
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John Cameron,

St Andrews 22/03/2009 07:01:51
A financial commentator wrote this week that investment banks have been run not for the benefit of society, customers, or even shareholders, but exclusively for the advantage of the bankers themselves. Too much attention has focused on Goodwin. He is only one among thousands of monstrously over-rewarded merchants of failure. These people are actually fraudsters. They have extracted huge sums from their businesses on the basis of achievements that have proved fictitious. The profits of which they boasted did not exist. Paying millions to proven incompetents is an insult to millions of taxpayers who will have to fund the failed institutions for decades to come. Bankers should be paid salaries like everybody else. Of course the finger of blame should also point at ZANU Labour’s failures of policy and regulation, and at the stupendous blunders of Gordon Brown as Chancellor. But the overwhelming blame rests on those who crafted the financial system to enable themselves to loot it. Never again must huge payments to directors (or even employees) be systematically concealed. Transparency and prior approval are indispensable.
8

Mcsnagpile,

22/03/2009 08:03:54
Unfortunately it is not only a bank, the whole system reeks of conspiracy. The air is thick with ammonia and cordite. Shall we get a team out of Saughton to make up an investigation team??—I did not have sex with that woman.
9

Forward not Back,

22/03/2009 08:11:44
Wonder if RBS employees will start getting death threats in the same way AIG staff are in the States when unemployment accelerates towards the current US trends?
10

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 22/03/2009 09:06:43
A lesson from history:

"In 1557, a mere generation after the huge Incan haul began hitting Spain’s shores, the Spanish Crown went bankrupt. Although some Spanish scholars cautioned the Crown that simply importing shiploads of gold and silver would not improve Spain’s economy, if nothing were done to develop the real economy, their advice was ignored. By about 1580, Castile no longer raised enough food to feed its people, and by the 1590s, its textile industry was in steep decline. Price levels rose in Spain by 500% by 1600, the Spanish Armada was destroyed in battle with England in 1588; bubonic plague swept through Spain beginning in 1596, killing off nearly 10% of its population, and Spain was arguably worse off in 1600 than in 1500, for one of history’s greatest ironies. The 1500s had seen Spain rise to the height of European power, to decline into a backwater, imperial has-been, with its empire eventually seized by its rivals, or its imperial domains revolting and becoming independent. Gold, weapons and rapacity generate no real wealth, and Spain’s experience is instructive."
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david team,

22/03/2009 09:20:18
re 4

has the scottish institute of chartered accountants said any thing at all ?

A Hunter is a past president !!!
12

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 22/03/2009 09:35:49
Why are those bank directors still allowed to sit on the boards of some of Britain's largest companies?

Surely they should have been disqualified immediately and only reinstated if and when it could be established that they really were blameless.
13

JayJay,

Right here 22/03/2009 09:39:08
These boardroom stiffs are in an awkward position. On the one hand, they have told us for years that the reason they all are paid vast bloated sums is because of their talent - quite simply, the market dictates that their brilliance requires a 7 figure bung. Now, it would appear that the argument has changed, and in fact they were just a bunch of patsies in pinstripes, seriously let down by reckless employees. As anyone who worked for Fred would tell you, he was proud of his attention to detail and all pervasive influence in decisions across the bank. That he "didn't know" is simply unbelievable.
As number 8 so correctly says, the whole financial services industry appears to have been operating on an "all for self" philosophy. Vast salaries, vast bonuseses, obscure financial engineering, all designed to ensure that an elite group of individuals pocketed millions without any fear of consequence. In the wake of this disgrace, we find that the likes of Lord Turner - himself a member of the financial star chamber - produces a report that goes nowhere near far enough to shut down the disgraceful activities of the speculators of every hue - any sign of a ban on shorting yet?
We will soon hear a lot about the importance of ensuring that London "maintains its competitive edge" in financial services - code for a return to the laissez faire free for all that we have seen over the last 10 years. That millions of people end up picking up the tab for the sort of freedom that benefits only a few thousand people should have us all joining the anarchist's march.
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ARP,

Scotland 22/03/2009 11:16:54
Where are the Police, the Procurator and the CPS?
Is anyone investigating prosecution for criminal negligence - Wikipedia refers To English law as follows "....the facts must be such that, in the opinion of the jury, the negligence of the accused went beyond a mere matter of compensation between subjects and showed such disregard for the life and safety of others as to amount to a crime against the State and conduct deserving punishment." I believe it to be in the public interest that charges be laid against all those involved - including not only Board Members but also the accountants and auditors who signed off teh accounts and reports and for good measure, the FSA.

If ever there was a need for an independent police and prosecuting service it is now.
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Wyrdtimes,

Land of fools 22/03/2009 11:32:42
While we're at it can we have an investigation into why only 10% of the jobs being lost at RBS are going in Scotland.

After all it's 64% owned and it's been totally bailed by the ENGLISH taxpayer.

We are being fleeced - and finally the people are waking up to it. Labour are going to get the kicking of their lives when we finally get a vote.
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im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 22/03/2009 11:47:43
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/230378/Gordon-Browns-pal-Nigel-Griffiths-cheats-on-wife-with-brunette-on-Remembrance-Day-in-House-of-Commons.html?postingId=233522
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Evan Owen,

Uppergumtree 22/03/2009 11:59:10
Don't go digging too deep folks, the toxicity of what the Scottish banks have been chucking wads of cash at is mind boggling.
18

jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow 22/03/2009 12:17:35
I hope staff members of RBS were properly protected when dealing with all these toxic debts etc. Were they issued with white coats, plastic gloves and face masks?
If not they might have a claim against Goodwin.
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Nellie,

Liverpool 22/03/2009 12:24:27
Hind sight is a beautiful thing, but I am SOOOO glad I didn't get "that" job with RBS! (Thanks to The Balvenie, which I discovered the night before the interview - may explain why I was not on top form during that interview ....)
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Nellie,

Liverpool 22/03/2009 12:33:03
"The company's board has claimed it was not told about £34bn of sub-prime mortgages purchased by RBS in 2006 which led to the bank's near-collapse."
I'm near speechless ... The board weren't told, and they didn't have the nous to look at what was being purchased?! More like they didn't want to know?! And these people were paid how much???!
21

Toast,

22/03/2009 13:49:52
Sorry ignorance is no excuse,the entire boards of HBOS,RBS,Northern Rock and LloydsTSB should be under criminal investigation,they were either incompetent or crooked,either way we the new owners have the right to answers and procecutions.
22

Myke Wylson,

22/03/2009 15:28:14
At least Nigel Griffiths has been on the job http://tinyurl.com/shaggingnigel
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Marga,

Edinburgh 22/03/2009 15:36:13
Observer lead article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/mar/22/rbs-threats-directors-lord-foulkes

The scandal engulfing the Royal Bank of Scotland reaches new heights today with serious allegations from a senior Labour politician that at least three of its former non-executive directors may have been intimidated and threatened with the sack for asking searching questions about its financial affairs.

The Observer can reveal that a former government minister, Lord Foulkes of Cumnock, who has been extensively briefed by former bank insiders, has written to the Financial Services Authority, the City watchdog, asking it to pursue the claims which, if true, could trigger a criminal investigation.
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Wyrdtimes,

Land of fools 22/03/2009 15:58:47
Here we go again... this time it's the Dunfermline Building Society

"Concern has been raised over the future of Scotland's largest building society, amid reports it may have to be bailed out by the UK Government."

Translation - "bailed out by the English taxpayer"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7957756.stm

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22/03/2009 17:23:41
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Scottyt,

Saint Paul, Usa 22/03/2009 19:11:45
It's more than time to put these greedy, corrupt people in prison; time to pay the piper.
Ordinary people would be in jail/prison had they stolen something.
27

Josiecamp,

San Francisco 22/03/2009 19:22:19
#6 & #7 ...Labour IS WORK! Capitalism DOESN'T WORK!
Capitalism REINVENTS itself and when that doesn't work it repeats the cycle. Western governments of all parties whether they be Tweedle-Dee or Tweedle-Dum are so afraid of the ESS word that they allow the CEE word to loot and plunder the ELL word. Don't you get it?
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Los Angeles,

23/03/2009 00:41:23
The scandal engulfing the Royal Bank of Scotland reaches new heights today with serious allegations from a senior Labour politician that at least three of its former non-executive directors may have been intimidated and threatened with the sack for asking searching questions about its financial affairs.(Marga)

This would be in line the Fred the Shred often described as an alleged nasty bully. But in any event, the criminal malpractice that has gone unchecked at the RBS until it drove the bank to collapse must be a matter of serious concern for the police and the courts. Nothing less will do.

Bank executives have gotten rich by systematic theft, grand larceny, if you like, and they didn't even need a getaway car.


 

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