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Published Date: 17 August 2008
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"WOULD you mind moving a little bit to the left?" the photographer asks Cathy Jamieson, sizing up a shot. "I can always manage that," she replies, quick as a flash. The candidate for the Labour leadership at Holyrood, taking a quick break from campaigning last week, bursts into a proper belly laugh.

Of the three candidates for the vacant job – along with Andy Kerr and Iain Gray – Jamieson agrees that "in terms of my history" she's the biggest lefty of the three. She came to prominence in 1998 as one of a group of rebels who got voted onto the party's National Executive Committee, in defiance of Tony Blair's leadership. Her working-class Ayrshire roots and the view of her as one of Scottish Labour's "wummin" sealed her hard-left image.

But the reality is a little different. Taking a brief time-out from campaigning in Glasgow last week, Jamieson praises Blair's leadership style, and how he had "the courage of his convictions". The much-caricatured former justice minister is a more complex person and politician than her image.

Jamieson grew up in Kilmarnock (her website proudly states that she was "one of the first pupils to benefit from comprehensive education in Ayrshire"). Her first love was art, an interest kindled in primary school when she won a prize in an art festival. In second year at secondary school, she won a silver medal for a competition in Glasgow. "I painted a bird or something," she says, "but the point about it was that it actually reinforced that I was good at this. There was excitement and a level of achievement."

After completing a degree at Glasgow School of Art, studying sculpture, she went to London's Goldsmith College for a post-graduate course. Then, it seems, she caught the politics bug. "As time went on I found myself becoming more and more interested in social issues," she says. A job as an art therapist combined her twin interests.

She's clearly not, I suggest, part of the 'art for art's sake brigade'. "There's a time and a place," she says. "I enjoy as much as anybody looking in art galleries at different things because it gives you a different perspective on life, but I think we can do more with it than that."

She is most interested in "community art and how we use art as part of a regeneration process for communities".

This is the kind of worthiness which endears her to Scottish Labour's activists. Jamieson is the bookie's outsider to succeed Wendy Alexander in the top job, but some senior people in the Scottish party continue to believe she will come out on top, pointing to her popularity with the party's grassroots.

"I come from a pretty straightforward working-class community and I have shared the kind of experiences that people in those communities have. Why would that make me any less able to be a politician?" she says. "Actually, I think it is an advantage because it does allow me to understand where people have come from and what their hopes and aspirations are."

While Jamieson may enjoy support for her character, there are attacks over her record as a minister. This is the avowed left-winger who decided to privatise the prison transport system, who presided over the hiring of Reliance security to ferry prisoners to and fro. She took the decision, she says, because the deal freed up time for police and prison officers.

"It is pragmatic politics," she says. But not socialist politics, I suggest. "It doesn't sit at odds with a principled position if you take the view that communities shouldn't be abandoned to people involved in anti-social behaviour, that people should be able to see people on the streets and prisoners need to have staff in there working with them," she counters.

This is the kind of rhetoric which eventually left Jamieson with admirers in Downing Street – praise which, perhaps, she would rather not have.

Certainly, in this campaign, she is tacking left again. She has proposed scrapping the ScotRail franchise, replacing it with a not-for-profit franchise. She also wants to give people coming off benefits a tax holiday for the first few weeks of work, to encourage them to stay in a job.

The rhetoric has not yet been a ringing success, however. She suffered a major blow last week when the huge Unite union – of which she is a member – decided to back Iain Gray. There were claims from the Jamieson camp that the decision had been influenced by Charlie Whelan, now Unite's political director and former spin doctor to Gordon Brown. Gray is widely thought to be the preferred candidate of the Prime Minister.

Jamieson issues a carefully measured response to questions on Brown's involvement in the campaign. "I would hope that Gordon and people around him will recognise that this is the first time every member of the Labour party and all the affiliates have their chance to put their name on the ballot paper," she says.

The summer campaign has met a mixed response in the Jamieson household. Her husband is a further education lecturer, and they have one son. "On the one hand they are saying this is great but on the other they are saying where has the summer gone?" she says.

But Jamieson is up for the task. " I came into this knowing it was going to be tough. I was very clear about what I was letting myself in for. But this time around I felt the party needed a contest and I was determined to play my part in that."

You can imagine Jamieson winning over plenty of Labour members in the next few weeks with her warm sincerity. Outsider she may be, but don't count her out just yet.





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16/08/2008 21:42:32
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Oldnat,

17/08/2008 01:00:16
Jamieson "I felt the party needed a contest"

I thought the SNP were doing a pretty good job on that!
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2Right,

On Location 17/08/2008 02:02:44
Oh No Justice Jamieson spouting her promises until they get into power.

She was no good at Justice Minister what would she be like as First Minister.

She created Ned Culture
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somerferg,

perth 17/08/2008 04:51:05

Wow even with the best photographers the Hootsman can muster she still looks (and sounds) like a chick out chick or is that 'tornado bait'(with apologies to all check out chics who I am sure could do a better job than Cathy at being an MSP).
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donald,

glasgow 17/08/2008 05:28:49
""WOULD you mind moving a little bit to the left?" the photographer asks Cathy Jamieson, sizing up a shot. "I can always manage that," she replies, quick as a flash. The candidate for the Labour leadership at Holyrood, taking a quick break from campaigning last week, bursts into a proper belly laugh."

Irony is lost on the thick.
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democracy,

Scottish Borders 17/08/2008 06:24:16
I notice they are all trying to 'out-left' each other within the Scottish New Labour leadership challenge.

I must say, New Labour has successfully destroyed any possibility of the party ever returning to its founding principles, as the contrived New Labour re-invention of itself for electability was obviously even condoned by their very own 'Fabian Society'.

To now expect the Scottish electorate to swallow another re-invention, allegedly back to its founding principles again, you have got to be having a laugh, surely?????
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 17/08/2008 06:25:51
The liebour party have been in power in SCOTLAND for the last TEN YEARS and they are now telling us, who pay thier wages, that they now realise and admit to the fact that they now FINALLY know who the foulkes we are. We are the ELECTORATE, and WE DECIDE, not you. Liebour in SCOTLAND IS DEAD!!!!!!!! OH,sorry, nearly forgot, HAVE A NICE DAY!
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Traquir , Alba,

17/08/2008 06:33:21
"'I know all too well the hopes and dreams of working class'"

Ok so she should have the courage of her convictions
and help form a completely independent Scottish Labour
party that looks after Scotland's interests first
and foremost. A party which will be anti-war,
anti-wmd, anti-obscene military spending,
pro-socialist, pro-Scotland, pro-10p/low tax,
pro-building council houses ...

But no, likely Winnie Ewings famous statement
will sadly hold firmly true -
"A shiver ran along the Scottish Labour benches looking for a spine to run up".
Instead Jamieson will allow Brown and London
to impose Gray as their leader, and she will like
Lord Foulkes support Scotland having another
imposed Tory Government for at least another 10 years
rather than have Scotland govern herself for
her own benefits - for some reason preserving
this rotting Union is so critical to these
people that they will tolerate their arch-enemies
the tories in power rather support Scotland
governing herself.

As Foulkes stated
"The introduction of proportional
representation in Scotland has been an absolute tragedy. We have seen chaos,
confusion and cuts. At local government level,
we see the Liberal Democrats in
an unholy alliance with the Scottish National Party. Will my noble friend assure us that, because of this experience, we will stick to the tried and
tested system of first past the post, which has given us stability in this
country for decades and centuries?"

tinyurl.com/378suf

Yep the "tried and
tested system of first past the post" that brought
Scotland the Thatcher era and will bring
us the Cameron era with his Etonian dominated upper
class cabinet. Yep, the shiver is still looking
for a spine. Hopefully Cathy will find hers
before it is too late. I strongly suspect
that a Cameron era is not the
"dreams of working class" in Scotland that
she supposedly represents but is a re-occurring
but preventable, nightmare.

Saor Alba
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Pocket Dictionary,

17/08/2008 06:58:43
Oh yes, the working class just love community art. That's why the people in Dysart, Fife, condemned Fife Council for wasting £20,000 on an installation.

At the cost of £20,000 they got a white painted, oblong, wooden box, over looking the Forth. The adults laughed at it and the kids used it to ride their bikes on.

Said installation was taken down early because of the kids riding their bikes on it.

Then there's the installation at Dysart harbour no one can understand. Old, 20 - 30 foot painted wooden beams standing upright - vandalised of course. Apparently they are to represent the tall ships that came up the Forth.

They could have erected a statue to John McDouall Stuart - the Australian explorer. His museum is just around the corner from this monstrosity.

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Boy Wonder,

17/08/2008 07:33:01
Cathie Jamieson interview - 'I know all too well the hopes and dreams of working class'

.... but I'll do sod-all about it!!!
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 17/08/2008 07:53:07
Soar Alba. If we do not go for INDEPENDENCE, then we will see yet once again, English Domination of Political SCOTTISH ASPIRATIONS, closed off from a normal way of democratic life.
We must bite the bullet and get rid of the union, for if nothing else, our childrens future.....
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tommy M,

17/08/2008 08:35:26
If she knows only too well the hopes and dreams of the working class how can she justify being part of a party that didn't build any council houses in Scotland when when they were in control of the "administration" - oh, sorry, i stand corrected, they built 4- or was it 6?
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Bruce's spider,

17/08/2008 09:40:02
Labour in Scotland were consistently a disgrace after devolution. Reading her rhetoric convinces me that she belongs to another age an age of Militant, Red Robbo and Arthur Scargill. Times have changed and her bizarre comments about the working class belong to the previous century. Who are the working class Mrs Jamieson? the guy who empties your bucket? the woman who sells you stamps you in the Post Office? the bank manager who gives you a loan? there is no one homogenous working class any more. Her ignorance of this itself is reason enough for her being bombed out.
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scottish person,

paisley 17/08/2008 10:00:22
Do any of you know about the concrete shower the the liebour party erected in county square in paisley. for a mere 20,000. The SNP managed to get the useless thing pulled down as it was a danger to health. The neds wont like it though, they have lost their late night open toilet. Manser and kelly wont be happy liebour bunnies either. SNP
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 17/08/2008 10:06:39
It's no dreams lass, yer a nightmare!
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calum,

17/08/2008 10:22:13
Kauffy doll, when you were Minister for Weans your record was abysmal. When you were Minister for the Polis your record was criminal. You have been an absolute failure in the very important posts given to you. What the hell makes you think you can rescue the Labour Party in Scotlnad from its self demolition?
Away back to your arts and geeze peace.
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akjem,

dundee 17/08/2008 10:47:20
"Reading her rhetoric convinces me that she belongs to another age an age of Militant, Red Robbo and Arthur Scargill. Times have changed and her bizarre comments about the working class belong to the previous century. Who are the working class Mrs Jamieson?"

#15 Sorry to disagree, but Militant, Red Robbo and Arthur Scargill were never representatives of the working class......opportunists one and all. If you seriously think there is "no one homogenous working class any more"..........then you are the antithesis of your hero (Bruce). The working class face many more defeats under capitalism but will one day defeat the monster.

I very much doubt whether Jamieson is at all concerned with the aspirations of the "working class". She is a member of the party-political ruling class. If she was remotely aware of the existing class war she would be demanding the dismantling of state control and all the mechanisms that protect and preserve it.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 10:49:40
Sick-making stuff from Barnes.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 10:50:27
#3 Agreed.

She IS a ned from a ned family.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 10:57:20
#19 Akjem

If you think Jamieson is a member of the ruling class, may I remind you that she was thrown out of that particular club in May last year.
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Richardinho,

17/08/2008 11:03:42
The main aspiration of the working classes should be to stop being working class. it is the labour party's aim to try and thwart that as much as possible.
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Bruce's spider,

17/08/2008 11:11:31
First off - spot on Ricardinho #24. Akjem #19 you may think you know your working class but you know nothing about Robert the Bruce. What existing class war are you talking about? you spout the same obscelete dross as Jamieson. There are truly many issues facing the world to day but the class war gibberish that you drone on about is not one of them. If you wanted to be a little bit more articulate and talk about how parliamentary democracy is nothing but another form of dictatorship fine but save the stalinist BS.
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akjem,

dundee 17/08/2008 11:30:25
#25 Bruce's spider....."think you know....you know nothing..... you spout.....obscelete(sic)dross.....class war gibberish....drone on about...."

Interesting response, some well thought out lines of argument here. I'm getting the impression that the class war may not interest you? Given up have you?

I am also detecting just a hint of socialism( "There are truly many issues facing the world to day"). I also suspect just a hint of nationalism.

Got it, you are a Nationalist Socialist ( hence the Stalinist jibe )


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brownlie,

17/08/2008 11:34:01
28 The Spook

How dare you write about my lovely Cathy in that manner!!

PS Where is Leith?

PPS Greetings OK???

PPPS Bearing in mind your Waitrose bag how come your team-mates have not voted you the worst-dressed??
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 17/08/2008 11:34:28
#21

"Nedette" or "Senga", please! Or is that being sexist?

They know the working-class place in life which is err, not working, dependent on benefits generously re-routed from the long-suffering taxpayer and so they have plenty of time to gawp at creations such as the Dysart one mentioned above built yet again with your money. That way Labour keeps 'em down and in their rightful position which is as unthinking Labour voting fodder privileged to be supported by the State and controlled by muppets. However they're extinct - they may not know it but people have matured beyond their 70s and 80s rhetoric and can see what they do, not what they say.
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Bruce's spider,

17/08/2008 11:43:35
Given up Akjem? on what? Class War? no, that was a myth invented by two faled social historians called MarX and Engels. Sorry about the typo but I must have been shaking my head at your post while I typed. National Socialist? my we are witty. Ever thought of checking if the Chuckle Brothers could become the Chuckle Triplets? your humour is pithced at about their level. If you ever take your nose out of your Socialist Worker for long enough you may get a surprise by what's really going on in the world and what people really want. Trust me its not class war they're talking about.
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roughrider,

Glasgow 17/08/2008 12:03:14
Here is caffy de boot in action .
Thicker than lidl mince.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cq4OsKUyTco
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Resolutions,

17/08/2008 13:08:39
Quote
"I come from a pretty straightforward working-class community and I have shared the kind of experiences that people in those communities have. Why would that make me any less able to be a politician?" she says. "Actually, I think it is an advantage because it does allow me to understand where people have come from and what their hopes and aspirations are."

Most communities are very diverse, with many shades of thought and opinion, which develop and change.

Bit arrogant to assume that she knows hopes and aspirations, WITHOUT actually asking them is it not?
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Resolutions,

17/08/2008 13:10:07
Forgot to add
Ask and LISTEN
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pehman,

sussex 17/08/2008 13:20:47
If as she say's, she knows the hopes and dreams of working class people

Why the fc uk has she done NOTHING to prevent nu lab from walking all over them ?

Why did she not support the "left wing" candidate that was going to stand against wendy in the last leadership election ?

Why does she support maggie browns privatisation of the health service ?

Why did she support the closures of A & E depts

Why does she vote against getting the due funding from w/minster for support for the elderly ?

Why did she support slab only building 6 (six)new council houses while it was in office ?

Away an bile yir heid cathy.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 14:43:50
#42 pehman

Seconded!
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 17/08/2008 14:45:29
Cathie Jamieson may have heard of the working class. She may even know what it smells like.
But to consider herself a card carrying member of the working class is quite a stretch.
Since as the ultimate committee warrior she hasn't done a lick of real work in her life.
Kinda of like watching the Jambos on telly then considering yourself a member of the squad.
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Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 17/08/2008 16:05:59
Oh, Cathy Jamieson, what can I say to you? You once were the kind of Labour activist that I recognised - principled and committed. But there is pragmatism, and there is betrayal of ideals. Once you succumbed to the insidious Blair/Brown influence all was lost to you.

Again, perhaps not. Throw off your New Labour baggage, fan the dying embers of your values and ideals. Commit yourself to a party that deserves your loyalty, a party that will deliver for Scotland and its people. Come home to your ain folk, Cathy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/users/moridura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARvE4ZzMCY
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jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow. 17/08/2008 17:40:37
Someone as class-ridden as Cathie Jamieson would be a disaster to lead any party. She's living in the past.
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Alan B,

17/08/2008 17:48:47
Cathie Jamieson represents one of the most fundamental problems with politicians. Being a politician is a very responsible position and effects peoples lives. Even she must know she isn't one of the brightest politicians. As such to really put personal ambition before your own obvious limitations really does take some type of person.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 18:09:50
Has wee Cathy never heard of make-up?
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roughrider,

Glasgow 17/08/2008 19:27:53
49 connaughtboy.
Caffy is actually plastered with make up, in real life she has a face like a pizza,but her expense account allows her to slap mud packs on at random without fear of the cost.
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roughrider,

Glasgow 17/08/2008 19:30:57
I meant to say "like a regurgitated pizza"
Sorry to all pizzas for the typo.
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henrymanchester,

UK 17/08/2008 22:40:39
I'm sure she's glad to know the working class dream...

freedom from people like her, isn't it?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/08/2008 22:45:47
Cathy doll, we all love ye....................not
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 18/08/2008 07:13:00
why is there not a wee ned in the photo making faces behind her back

 

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