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Motherwell 0-1 Hearts: Craigan lifts Hearts with own goal



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Published Date: 24 February 2008
MOTHERWELL 0
HEARTS 1 Craigan og 11

WHO on earth would find the net for their side with top scorer Andrius Velicka slated for the off? That was the vexing question for Hearts supporters yesterday morning. None of them would have come up with the name Stephen Craigan. But, unwittingly, the Motherwell centre-back proved the man responsible for the goal – of the 'own' variety – that earned the Tynecastle men a whirlwind win. Or rather, a win in a whirlwind.

Stevie Frail's team adapted to the weather far better than their underperforming hosts who were left to curse the conditions. The shock of it all was that the Fir Park playing surface was not the cause of the most venomous oaths. Though it was deemed necessary to hold an inspection yesterday morning before the pitch was passed playable, the part-rutted, part-bald, part-relaid turf didn't look any worse than in recent times. It was still atrocious, of course, but despite heavy rain late in the week no more "diabolical" than Mark McGhee had labelled it the previous Saturday. The real game spoiler yesterday was a swirling wind that caused the ball to hang up or rush through in the air in erratic fashion.

Hearts had it at their backs in the first period, and with the gusts came a gusto from a side that didn't have a make-and-do look to it despite some notable injury omissions. Chief among these was Velicka. Absent with a pelvic problem, the Lithuanian striker is set to be permanently lost to the Tynecastle side, with a £1m move to Norwegian side Viking Stavanger reported to be imminent. The striker is the Gorgie club's chief, and only reliable, source of goals this season with 14 to his name, and the apparent willingness of owner Vladimir Romanov to flog him is causing the club's faithful no end of grief.

It is yet further irrefutable evidence that Hearts are now back to precisely where they were in the fag-end of the Chris Robinson era. But at least in those days when they sold players as the result of a financial imperative – think Gary Naysmith, Colin Cameron, Antti Niemi and Neil McCann – the proceeds were used to alleviate club debts. Velicka is on loan from Kaunas and therefore any transfer fee he attracts will be banked in Lithuania. Directly at least, it won't make even a small dent in Hearts' mushrooming debt, thought to be close to £40m.

As well as Velicka, injury deprived the visitors of Andrew Driver, out with a groin strain, Layrea Kingston, Michael Stewart and Neil McCann. To Frail's credit, they still looked a drilled unit without some of these dependables. Indeed, inside a minute should have taken the lead when Christian Nade was presented with a glorious shooting opportunity at the back post. The Frenchman made a clean contact, but in prefering power over placement allowed keeper Graeme Smith to throw himself to his right to block confidently.

Atypically, there was a slugglishness about Motherwell. They struggled to move the ball around with alacrity, the very facet that has become the trademark of their play under McGhee and the reason why then headed into yesterday's encounter out on their own in third and 14 points better off than ninth-placed Hearts. In the entire first period, the home team fashioned only one shot on Steve Banks' goal and could not force a single corner. Indeed, the only significant incident in the Hearts' box was a collison between Banks and David Clarkson after ten minutes that left the Motherwell striker clutching his face on the ground.

The importance of this moment grew in the seconds after it. Referee Craig Thomson's refused to stop play despite piercing whistling from the home supporters and Hearts duly took the lead when a very speculative, very long-range effort from Eggert Jonsson richoceted off the out-stretched foot of Craigan and flew in at the top right-hand corner of the wrong-footed Smith's net.

The Lanarkshire side's lot was not improved by Clarkson succumbing to his earlier head knock in the 30th minute. His replacement Simon Lappin was pressed into action as a third striker but when Motherwell fortunes did not improve with wind working for them, McGhee withdrew the ineffectual Stephen Hughes in favour of Darren Smith. You could have laid a wager on Hughes failing to perform after a topper of a newspaper headline declared "Hughes The Daddy" on the morning of the match. Hughes, of course, rejected a move to Hearts in the summer, preferring instead to further his career at Fir Park when he left Leicester.

McGhee rejigged his team into a 4-4-2 formation but by the closing minutes, matters had become so desperate he took off Craigan, threw on teenager Jamie Murphy and reconfigures his charges into a 3-4-3.

Minutes before he did so, Banks had produced a superb one-handed save to deny the home side. A free-kick whipped in by Ross McCormack seemed netbound when it was flicked on by Smith. Somehow, though, the Hearts goalkeeper seemed to develop a telescopic arm to fingertip the ball behind as it headed for the right hand corner of his net. He didn't fare so well from the resultant corner, which slipped from his grasp. An almighty melee ensued as Motherwell players hacked away at him on the ground as he sought to smother the ball.

After another McCormack free-kick brought another Banks block it continued to be frantic stuff in the final seconds as Motherwell slung bodies and high balls into the box. It was all to no avail, however, and Hearts held on for a precious victory which lifted them into seventh place.


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1

r1niceboy,

24/02/2008 00:09:47
The sad things is that they'll look on this as a success, and not see the underlying problem.
2

J J MAROONER,

24/02/2008 00:47:58
What irony - Velicka not playing and we win with an OG
3

bring them on,

24/02/2008 00:48:35
Sounds like it was a really exciting game.....
4

bonspeil,

24/02/2008 01:50:00
#1 No the sad thing is someone with no interest in Hearts posting a worthless comment like that. If a win away from home against the team lying third in the league can't be seen as a success, what can?
5

Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 24/02/2008 02:02:03
Thanks Hearts. Results couldn't have been better for Hibs yesterday and that is in large part to the 'big' teams 'demolition' of Motherwell.
Good luck getting own goals in every game left this season.
Well, honestly, where else are the goals going to come from if you do have Velicka taken away from ya? Serious question...
Still, congratulations on a good away win.
6

Broono,

Toon 24/02/2008 02:16:01
Selling Velicka is proof that Romanov is using us as a a sales platform. I expect a 'creative redistribution' of the fee that we got for Craig Gordon.

The flip-side view is that Romanov is "committed for the long term" because of his approach to stadium development.....but how much has this cost him so far ?

It is unescapable that ROMANOV HAS LOST INTEREST IN HEARTS.

We can only speculate on his exit strategy.
7

The hibs kid,

The BURGH 24/02/2008 03:43:47
Velicka on his way??? this surely is the worst thing that could have happened to you lot, he has scored about 80% of your goals in the last year!! And who the hell is the team he is going to?? bit of a big step up for the lad at this stage of his career is it not?! he will probably just warm the bench over there! :0 Cheers for taking points of Motherwell today tho, hopefully this will help in our battle for 3rd place,
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Fred in sunny Sydney,

sydney 24/02/2008 05:37:01
Good of our city neighbores to do us a good turn by unexpectedly defeating Motherwell.

Thank you for the favour, it is appreciated

http://members.tripod.com/patstantontour/
9

Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

Sydney 24/02/2008 07:20:50
Still, another 3 points and another clean sheet! But, why on earth are we even considering letting our top scorer leave, especially at this stage of the season? More importantly, why is he even interested in going - I wouldn't really have thought it was a step up for him - is football in Norway any better than in Scotland?
Long hard remainder of the season ahead for us, I fear. If I was still living over there I wouldn't be rushing to buy my season ticket until I knew who the new manager was going to be and until I knew what signings, if any, we were making!
10

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 07:40:11
I have not seen game yet only listened to it. However it sounded if both defences played well.. I don't know how Elliot played in the hole as it is described, but crying face had to take a free kick that he completely muffed. It is obvious he is not a striker and at most he is a below average midfielder.

I agree with 4* and how many teams will go to Fir Park and go away with three points and a clean sheet. So without Driver, Kingston and Velicka (he was injured) it was a good result. Don't forget Vellicka is not forced to sign for Stavenger unless he has been threatened with Vlad flu or a return to Kaunus.
11

Scoop in the City,

24/02/2008 08:32:01
Nice of all the Hibees to express their concern for Hearts possibly loosing their top scorer! When a injury ravaged side can go away to the top, non-OF team and come back with all three points, I don't think that we need your 'sympathy'. Now off you go back to the Hibs story and discuss how Mixu's new "Wimblehibs" style of football saw you outplayed for 70 minutes, but still come up with the points.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 09:44:37
Defeat accepted? After a head injury the SPORTING thing to do is to place the ball to the side line, it happens every week in football.You then regain posession when the other team SPORTINGLY passes the ball back to you.Are Hearts really that desperate?Has no team ever done that for Hearts before?The referee isn't obliged to halt play for head injuries but within his right to call for off-side etc.A disgrace.And all the Hibees on here 3rd is ours you should concentrate on the top six at least.#5 hardly a demolishing by a big team.
13

yoyo,

24/02/2008 10:12:17
#12 I reckon 3rd place is still wide open and there's a few sides in the reckoning. Remember you've still got 2 big games against the hibs before the split, they're going to be pretty important games for all those teams in the hunt. Long way to go yet Graham.
As for all the sporting stuff, as we all know players have been asked to leave these decisions for the ref to make, so I think you're being a bit harsh there. And yes the Jambos are a desperate lot
14

what a chancer,

abdn 24/02/2008 10:13:41
what happened to the hearts attack and midfield for the last 30 minutes,surely a case of why are these players at hearts let them leave.
15

Shiltrum,

Stirling 24/02/2008 10:19:31
#12 GRAHAM PURDIE
You 'Well fans shouldn't be lowering yourselves to the level of the many Jambos who drench this site with tear-stained stories about how the world and his dog is against them and their team. If it's not the SPL, it's the SFA, or the refs....(Oh, ESPECIALLY the refs)...the Glasgow Police, Celtic Stewards, UEFA committees, etc etc etc.
Just accept that on the day, the Hearts got the points on what seems to have been a very forgettable game in awful conditions on that crappy pitch. Theirs is the club with problems, not yours, so cut them a bit of slack...just this once Graham.....(Aye,and yer a "stick-on" for third place !!)
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Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 10:22:15
12*

ok you have a valid point, and with no disrespect to Motherwell or Clarkson, feigning head injuries is getting more common unfortunately. I know it happened when Hearts played Rangers with Hearts in a good attacking position, when the game was stopped Rangers player was up and about straight after it. To give offside because a player is injured is ludicrous, how many would be rolling around feigning injury.. Craigan shouldn't have been in way anyway as Hearts players can't shoot straight at the best of times.
17

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/02/2008 10:45:51
Problems are still there for all to see.I hope Frail doesn`t try to say this is a success.He will though and try to make capital of another abject performance for the worst team Hearts have had since the late seventies and early eighties.This time though ,there`s the mounting debt.It`s not long now till day of reckoning and that might be when Velicka goes.The fans just won`t take that and the loss of the core support might just tip the scales .One thing for sure once the fans look at what`s on offer at the end of the season,nameley Frail made manager,Velicka gone,Kingston gone and Elliot as your top striker there won`t be a season ticket sold unless it`s to the mentally impaired.
18

Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 10:46:25
#14 I,m not convinced it's as wide open as you think,a good look at the table inc games in hand is recommended.Hearts deserved the win yesterday but not in this manner.The Jambo's won't find 6th spot by benifiting own goals by other teams.As for Craigan, I would't replace him for one of yours, still think he's top quality.
19

Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 11:00:56
#12
I posted this on the EN thread last night when soeone commented on the play carrying on after the injury.

there was issues a year or so back about that sort of thing, that when a player goes down teams were kicking the ball out the park sportingly, however teams and players were using the good sporting behaviour they expected, to cheat, ie go down stay down if your teams on the defence or opponents are anywere near your penalty area. There were several incidents of blatent cheating with regard to this, and at the time it was then widely accepted by each team and players that you play to the whistle, unless the injured player has recieved a head knock in which the ref would and should stop play immediately himself.

Since that there have been occasions when Hearts players have gone down (Whether diving or actually fouled) and have stayed down play has resumed. Not only in this league does it happen now the problem was all over. Sadly this is now part of our modern game where it seems you cant rely on sporting behaviour now because of those who will abuse the geture.
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24/02/2008 11:01:47
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 11:02:55
#19
"As for Craigan, I would't replace him for one of yours, still think he's top quality."

I know its your personal opinion however craigan couldnt lace Kingstons boots my friend.
22

Mixu 6-2,

24/02/2008 11:10:08
Early NISHelroy strike puts HIBS on easy street................

HA-HA-HA.........................
23

Mixu 6-2,

24/02/2008 11:11:02
Vicci is vlads magic...............
poor wee lassie.......................
24

Mixu 6-2,

24/02/2008 11:11:58
Sorry cannot stay..........................

away to the chapel..................

LATER...............
25

Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 11:21:52
It's thoughts like that that keep you in your lowly position.Statisticly Craigan is better because we are 3rd. Wheres your logic? (my friend)
26

Jambo-ree,

24/02/2008 11:24:40
Come on, let's take the positives. We went away to the third top team, got a win and another shutout (4 out of the last five league matches) and all without a number of our better players. We also made up two league places on Hibs (at least until this afternoon) and four teams above us dropped points. Not bad for an afternoon's work and realistically as much as we can hope for at this point in this particular season. According to the Hearts' World commentary team Elliot had an impressive game.

Have to say that as OGs go, that was a cracker! Will be sorry if Velicka goes but we've always known he was not ours to keep or to sell. Think I'm also right in saying that Vlad does not own wholly own in the way he does us and that there will be other shareholders with an interest in making their money where they can.

#17 You're right - it was Ferguson who hit the deck on his own 18 yard line hoding his head only for the trainer to come on and attend to his leg. But hey, that's not cheating, of course.

Onwards and upwards
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24/02/2008 11:26:21
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 11:41:43
#28, please explain the hilarity? Both Rangers and Celtic are above us because they have better teams.You are below because your not as good this season(simple).You quoted;a simplistic view that motherwell must have the better player(s) because they are higher in the league is quite, quite hilarious.
YOU ARE A REAL NUMPTY PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP THIS GUY OUT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY.
29

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 11:49:15
I must congratulate Motherwell on their huge crowds , a team lying in the lowly depths of 3rd place draws a magnificent crowd of under 6000. This season is a one off for them and take heart from it. McGee will not be there next season and no McCormack and probably a few others. Also a few more slip ups against lowly clubs like Hearts can see and end to to their European aspirations.
30

Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 11:52:41
Another thing your all saying that players are faking head injuries, Clarkson had to be substituted and not one of you guys have mentioned that,all there is are weak answers to a strong question.
31

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

24/02/2008 11:56:20
Do Gretna get more people in than Motherwell for a "home match" at Fir park?

32

Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 11:56:26
#26
WHAT!!!!

Are you sure your not a hobo with logic like that.

Using your logic then thompson must be a better midfielder than nakamura or brown because rangers are 1st cetic 2nd in the league.

Your'e logic is that of a school payground debate.

Overall if you were to sell the entire Hearts team and then sell the entire motherwell team i could put a years salary on who would get more money, and it wouldnt be your'e lot.

Yes Motherwell have had a better season than us for what the first time in like 20/30/40 years. Know your'e place in football son, next year you will be back down fighting the relagation battle like your used to, or at best battling for a top 6. Jeez hobo mentality or what, one good season and all of a sudden your world beaters.

Get over it we were the better team yesterday in terrible conditions, so using the same logic you use were overall a better team
33

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 12:01:38
29*

Having the best players does not always mean the best team. There are players in Hearts squad superior to players in Motherwell squad and that goes vice versa. Motherwell this season haven't gone through the weird selection policy endured by Hearts the past couple of seasons. Especially when good players are left out to accommodate diddies on Romanov's say so. However to compare Craigan to Kingston is a joke. Offer any side with the cash Craigan for free or Kingston for 500000, and I know who they would take. Before you start shouting both players are worth more.
34

Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 12:03:26
#31
Get over it we've had decision after decision go against us all season. You want to blame anyone blame the ref its his duty to stop play there is no rule in the book that says you have to kick the ball out of play when a player goes down, as i already explained in a previous reply to you players and teams stopped doing this a season or 2 back when players were using the generosity of their opponents to feign injury.

Back to the craigan if you rate him as class you really know nothing about football, he was rank yesterday, and wouldnt get a game for hutchy vale.

35

Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 12:04:13
#30 as your from Chorley I doubt you will be counted at the turnstile every week so you've no room to talk about figures you hypocrite.I take it Hearts are having "Just a bad season"? and Europe is a common feature for the Jambos calendar.TUT TUT ANGLO.
36

Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 12:11:23
#36
I could bet we have been in Europe more times in the last 15 years than Motherwell have finnished in the top 5 or maybe even 6.

So yes Europe is normally quite a regular feature for us.

As for attendances dont even go there we have as many season ticket holders as your grounds entire capacity.
37

busbyfh,

24/02/2008 12:15:14
# 29 (you now mention teams but earlier you inferred players)

Example - Barcelona have far better individual players than any other team in Spain. Do they top their division ? Better players than Madrid yet five points behind them.

By your theory - Madrid's players are all better in their individual positions than the Barca players.

Even better than Messi , Henri , Ronaldhino etc ?

Kind of blows your stupid argument in # 26 out of the water doesn't it ?
"Craigan is better because we are 3rd"
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 12:17:47
HOW TO MAKE A big team BITE IN ONE VERY EASY STEP .We are in third with a lot more goals than you,hence we are better.And Gorgies finest who cares if you got more money for your team your still far far behind Motherwell with a board of idiots that are the laughing stock of scottish football that includes Hutchy vale.
39

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

24/02/2008 12:21:25
Just waiting for Riley to make an appearance with his guiso laughin at the jambos.
I have never read the written word of such a spanner in all my days. Takes some doing with the bolt heads and planks of wood types that follow Hibs on here mouthing off daily

but he really needs head help!
40

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

24/02/2008 12:22:36
Are you his brother Graham?
41

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

24/02/2008 12:22:36
Are you his brother Graham?
42

Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 12:28:14
graham is riley hamish me thinks
43

Graham Purdie,

24/02/2008 12:31:35
ok ok ok Craigan is mince and Kingston is better than Roberto Carlos.Craigan is not the only player in Motherwell I know but his donation this season along with the other Well defenders has been fantastic.Forget the own goal,how many defenders have had to put up with an unlucky deflection?It wasn't even an arguement I just reckoned that Kingston isn't good enough to have his boots brushed by Craigan and that Gorgies finest is blocked and unflushable.
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Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 12:53:31
36*

Calling someone a hypocrite without even knowing them is distasteful. For a start you don't even know me. I stated a fact that your side isn't well supported for a club in third place, as for me I am originally from Edinburgh, supported Hearts boy and man. My father went to Tynecastle School and I am a regular visit to Tynecastle. There are thousands of people in Motherwell who haven't seen Motherwell so go and tell them.
45

Roscoe P Coltrane,

24/02/2008 13:05:16
Gorgie's finest - Graham can't be Riley, there's no RANDOM use of capital LETTERS. I'm sure if you could change the colour of the font on these posts Riley would be using green......

I do wonder what causes him to be such a self-consumptive bitter freak (Riley that is)? I don't know about anybody else but any time I wonder what he looks like I'm always drawn to a certain character in The Goonies......

At least Mixu makes you laugh now and again, Riley's an out-and-out weirdo.

Happy with the result yesterday even if the game was rank.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 13:09:30
#45 Distasteful? You quoted;I must congratulate Motherwell on their huge crowds , a team lying in the lowly depths of 3rd place draws a magnificent crowd of under 6000. You see ANGLO your not the nice guy you think you are, your just an insulting wolf in sheeps clothes.People like you are not very honest and who cares about your history."Ooooh I only stated a fact" aye right,sussed.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 13:11:20
SUPER WELL ARE WE twadgers.
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24/02/2008 13:14:21
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

24/02/2008 13:14:23
I take it back, maybe he is Riley.....

What's a twadger RH?
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

24/02/2008 13:15:24
Victor, he got in with the insult before you could call him out!
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Graham Purdie,

24/02/2008 13:22:48
NO #49 the reason there are many other people saying it is because the scotsman is Edinburgh based. So you see if you took the time to think about it you most certainly have a biased decision on here.I know that at least but it dosn't stop me from visiting this site,rather courageous of me don't you think victorian?
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Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 24/02/2008 13:27:46
47*

Now you are judging my honesty without even knowing me. All based on a simple quote and you have taken it personally . I for a start never made a personal remark about you but you have about me. I am sure you are a true Motherwell fan, but please refrain from personal attacks
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 13:28:48
Defo Riley Hamish there cant be 2 complete imbilciles of this calibre support the same team, and post on the same forums, to much of a coincidence.

Graham/Riley quick question for you. Can you explain why Goncalves and Nade were subjected to continous booing and heckling from the motherwell fans yesterday, more so than other players???
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24/02/2008 13:34:47
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 13:38:18
Cut the Riley rubbish,#55 no more than you have booo'd your own team this season.Anyway Motherwell in 3rd and Hearts in HAHAHA 7th means your big team is mince.Do you think you will get to 6th by profiting own goals?
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 13:45:24
#57
Touched a raw nerve have we Riley/graham.

So is it a fact then all motherwell fans are are idiots. Thats 2 motherwell fans we have had on these forums now (Thats if we are to belive you are not riley) and none of you have spoke sense yet, or actually been able to hold a proper debate without resulting to personal insults.

ot good odds is 2 out 2 considering your tiny little support,
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 13:47:46
#56 NO the whole team is important but if Porter scores more goals than Fletcher this season it helps the players reputation.McDonald for Celtic has 18 goals this season Porter 9 is McDonald better than Porter ????? Yes. What dont you understand?
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 13:52:58
#58 You havn't uttered a word about football since youve been on here as for personal insults heres another HEARTS ARE CRAP.
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Cramondo,

Edinburgh 24/02/2008 13:53:31
Going back to the point about whether Hearts should have stopped play, I wasn't at the game but the Observer's report describes what preceded the goal thus:

"In their only promising attack of the entire first half, Motherwell might have scored when Stephen Hughes' chip was headed on by David Clarkson to the advancing Keith Lasley. The midfielder, trying to take the ball in his stride, instead tripped over it. Clarkson had clearly taken a knock to the head ... (then Hearts broke away and scored) "

So it seems that immediately after Clarkson was injured, his team mate continued to attack (but tripped).

If Lasley had scored, would the Well fans be moaning?

To be fair, most are not and their manager gave credit to Hearts.
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 13:54:15
Velicka must be a better player than these as he has cored more goals.... :-S

Velicka Hearts 11
Boyd Rangers 10
Vennegoor of Hesselink Celtic 10
Nish Hibernian 9
Porter Motherwell 9
Cousin Rangers 8
McCormack Motherwell 8
Miller Aberdeen 8
Cowie Inverness CT 7
Higdon Falkirk 7

Same reasoning

Just for the record your top scorer Clarkson has scored the same amount as Velicka and played far more games.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

24/02/2008 13:54:28
How did your folks take your report card this year Graham?
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Jambo-ree,

24/02/2008 13:58:53
#60 Yes, we're so crap that we've accounted for something like 50% of the home points you've lost this season.
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Jambo Number 1,

24/02/2008 13:59:26
We have beaten Motherwell at Firpark so many times!! I think Motherwell have only beaten us 1 in like 5 years at their own ground! What a quite shocking record.

Hearts won the game with nothing like their full strength side which leads me to believe that both Hearts and Motherwell are in false positions in the league and it won't be long before Hearts are in the top 6 where they belong.

PS, shocking attendance considering Hearts brought a couple of thousand fans to the game.
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Graham Purdie,

24/02/2008 14:00:32
#62Who said Velicka wasn't good?Best thing you HAD.
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Jambo Number 1,

24/02/2008 14:03:00
#67

Sorry, Larry Kingston is the best player at our club.

SO YOU JUST MADE THAT UP!

ps. at least he is being sold for money unlike McCormack who is walking out on you for nothing.

my my, we are sour sour today.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 14:05:02
Clarkson 11,Porter 9 and McCormack 8 SING Dont you wish the Jambos had a team like mine, dont you dont you.
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The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

24/02/2008 14:06:44
The wee boy Graham is maybe worried that Hearts will get the head screwed on until the end of the season now and take 3rd spot.
Can't see it myself as Motherwell have been very consistant, where we have been consistantly poor until recently.

A late charge wasn't enough from us last season but with this league being where we take points off each other generaly then if we beat the Smellies on Wednesday, three points and the lift from that would make the run in to the split with the chance to win a few games and rack up some serious points at last.

After Wednesday out the way i think, but every game probably has to be won or the majority and you never know. Hopefuly the King stays fit as he's not played much in our time of need so has to do the business for us when back.

Hats off to Frail though, considering his position and experience he has brought a calmness and a bit of confidence to the side. He will make mistakes between now and the end of the season no doubt about it but he has to stay as assistant when a proper manager is eventually appointed. Would still rather a manager was brought in now to get started for next season.
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Jambo Number 1,

24/02/2008 14:08:24
#69

Moterwell don't have any players as good as Kingston, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 14:11:45
#67
Thats now 2 players we have mentioned that could walk stright into any motherwell team ahead of anyone they have Kingston and Velicka, and neither were even playing yesterday.

How are those sour grapes tasting by the way????
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 14:21:42
Even Hughes refused to go to Hearts and favoured Motherwell instead.As for Kingston he's good but wont bring you goals.#73 the grapes are sweet and pipless and far from sour.Do you think i'm miserable cause we lost yesterday? not at all. I could think of worse situations to be in, like yours for example.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 14:25:07
Anyway why dont you have a go at comment #71 for fantasizing such rubbish.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 14:28:47
"Put that in your pipe and smoke it?" Oh gosh that weakened me.Fiddlesticks.
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Jambo Number 1,

24/02/2008 15:17:06
Stephen Hughes would not get into our midfield and Motherwell are hopeless.
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I.J,

The Diggers 24/02/2008 15:23:56
We shouldn't be mentioning Larry in front of a Motherwell fan. He'll probably be rounding up a lynch mob and reaching for his pillowcase for some good old fashioned "Southern justice".........
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mcjambo,

24/02/2008 15:35:59
not much said about velicka in the papers the day.

mixu. nishelroy ha ha ha ha thats vintage comedy that i almost fell off ma seat laughing
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 15:38:23
#80
I.J. were you at the game yesterday m8? i raised this question to the imbicile earlier and got the expected reply of a person either involved in it or not willing to accept fans of his team are sickening. Nade and Goncalves were continually booed and jeered all game, much more than other players, we all bo opposing players and some recieve harsher treatment than others but for other reasons than what the motherwell fans reasons are, its not these shamefull antics have gone on at motherwell, the quicker the SFA and UEFA start looking into this the better as its not only Hearts players that have recieved it. Its sickening and a total disgrace to Scottish football.They should be ashamed of themselves
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TD 11,

24/02/2008 16:59:10
#80 At the diggers.
tremendous post.
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TD 11,

24/02/2008 17:01:59
Remind us again !!!
who is kingston?
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 17:29:51
#82 The fans were booing the ref and you know it if you were at the match.The boo's came after a controversial goal and the fans reacted.As for jeering at Nade and Goncalves your talking rubbish just to rile yourself up.#77 I did notice actually that there were no Motherwell players involved in the African cup of nations,oh yes your hinting about Kingston I presume.SO WHAT is my answer and who cares.Clarkson 11,Porter 9 and McCormack 8 , are you starting to understand yet?
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 18:03:39
Eleven points clear of Hearts,two games in hand and a far superior goal tally.Big team in seventh behind Falkirk and your season was finished before christmas.Three points for a rebound of a defender will not save Hearts sorry sorry blushes.Hibs might catch us but you certainly wont.
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 18:20:34
#86
As you have ben told by many today little boy, enjoy it while you can because it certainly is not the norm for your mancky lot, next year youll be down scrapping away at the bottom where you normally are, however, just as this season isnt the norm for your lot this season isnt the norm for us, bigger team, more fans, higher prestige, consistently been the best team in scotland team outwith the OF for the last 20 years, shall i go on? we will be back in our rightfull place next year, your only warming that 3rd spot for us, who knows with a little more effort on vlads part and thought for the club we could even push the OF again, can you say that for your lot????????

Frails just keeping the bench warm for McGhee at the moment anyway, not that i want him theres far better managers out there i would rather have but get used to it McGhee will be at hearts next season, hence his appraisal of his new employers yesterday
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Gorgie's Finest,

24/02/2008 19:06:43
#90
If at all your lithuanian you have no idea of Scottish football you probably hadnt even heard of hibs or hearts until Vlad came over here so really you are of no mind to be commenting on the history of our coutries football teams.

However since you seem to be like most other inbred vagrants from leith and have an unhealthy obsession with your rivals, check the stats over the last 20 years to see for yourself.

Stats = FACTS son not dribblings from your unqualified hobo mouth.

As vic says you were a little funny at some point a while ago now your just boring and appear to be every bit an erse as the likes of mixu,riley,graham

I see you scarpered quickly enough the other day when i made the offer of meeting for a drink in a few weeks while im staying just outside Kaunas for 3 days, could that be because in fact your really just some silly little child sitting in a rat infested flat in leith and probably dont even know where lithuania is let alone stay there
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yoyo,

24/02/2008 19:18:55
Graham Purdie, Don't be kidding yourself by thinking you have 3rd place secured. Motherwell are hardly world beaters and that pitch certainly isn't suited to football. So I think you'll see it will be a real fight for 3rd place. You've still got to win your games in hand and one of those 2 games in hand is against celtic and the other against hibs who are, with mixu, hot on your heels. Still alot of points to be won and lost and with the well squad not exactly vast a couple of unlucky injuries would scupper even competing for 3rd. Remember you just lost to the team who were 9th.
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J J MAROONER,

24/02/2008 19:19:45
#91

You are certainly correct about the unhealthy obsession the Hibs match report has had 8 comments since midnight.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 19:21:20
#87 thanks for the little boy statement I bet that makes you feel real big and macho.Probably the only big thing youve got is a 8inch foreskin with a 1inch penis. Anyway your very wrong i'm not that wee..And if you think Hearts will topple Motherwell for third place then you have some serious mental problems #89 victorian,where do you get your info from,were 3rd and your 7th with one goal seperating us is that what your attempting to say OMFG.Look Vic it's thirteen goals difference actually sorry to be the bearer of bad news to you but thats quite unlucky for Hearts,isn't it? You better try better than that.If your going to lie try to make it just a wee bit less fantasy and some other Jambo might beleive you.
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J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 24/02/2008 19:24:27
#94

With a name like Purdie - you should be a JAMBO
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 19:32:29
#92 I never secured it as mines mate I know we still have a good few games to play yet and yeah we could drop but to hear this lot trying to fantasize of toppling us is just too much and all this big team nonsense mixed wi lies just makes me want to stay here to remind them that they have zero chance of anything this year and probably the next.As for the pitch thats the price we all pay for helping Gretna.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 19:34:28
#95 you've lost me mate.
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what a chancer,

abdn 24/02/2008 19:36:12
well done well for a good season with the budget and squad size lesson there to be noted to all other teams below you.passion and desire it is there every second half this never give in play in the second half is ace pity our foriegners cant deliver the same here,that is why you are third.hearts were posted missing in the second half yesterday once again.
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J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 24/02/2008 19:38:44
HELP WANTED:

Sorry to move away from the issue, but I have just read an article on a supporters forum regarding Jim (the cat) Cruickshank Hearts goalkeeper for most of the 60/70s, the article bemoaned the fact that he never received a testimonial despite playing for the Club for around 17 years, the article stated various theories existed as to why he was denied recognition. Does anybody out there no why he was overlooked for a testimonial, sorry if I am boring the younger contributors.
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Graham Purdie,

Motherwell 24/02/2008 19:40:47
Cheers #98 at last an HONEST oppinion by someone from another team.Good luck next season.
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what a chancer,

abdn 24/02/2008 19:41:16
dont blame gretna for your pitch,it slants on two directions and it has never found any drainage in forty years of noteworthy football,a bucket of water would put doubt on the pitch on the far corner.
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what a chancer,

abdn 24/02/2008 19:45:38
some of the posts on here dont like telling the truth in the opposing teams that they have just played ,its the sarcastic comments that they think they are sports journalists instead armchair experts,i wonder if they know how it feels to have your lungs bursting with ten minutes played.
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J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 24/02/2008 19:46:11
100#

Just thought I would give you break from the Flak coming your way - Tom Purdie was Hearts first Captain I know zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzsnorezzzzz
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what a chancer,

abdn 24/02/2008 19:47:03
oh i aint a don
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