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Rail police chief hits back at claims that Asians are targeted in terror searches



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Published Date: 23 December 2007
THE police chief in charge of stop-and-search on Scotland's railways has dismissed attacks on his force as "nonsense", following claims that Asians were being unfairly singled out.
Figures last week revealed that one in seven searches on passengers since July had been on non-white people, who make up only 2% of the population.

Justice secretary Kenny MacAskill attacked the British Transport Police, claiming the disparity
showed there was something "far wrong" with how searches were carried out. But Ian Johnston, chief constable of BTP, hit back, saying: "The people who come through major routeways like Glasgow are not necessarily representative of the population.

"To expect there to be an exact crossover in population terms is a nonsense."

Figures released last week showed that more than 14,000 people and vehicles have been searched in Scotland under the new powers since the summer.

SNP ministers believe this is too high and are calling for an explanation from the BTP over their tactics. But Johnston issued a robust defence, pointing out he had received no complaints from passengers in Scotland.

He warned trains remain a key terrorist target: "We are not into political correctness; we are into making sure people are safe. We have seen attacks in London, Madrid, Russia and India and that makes us determined to ensure we do a proper job."

Asked whether MacAskill's attack – including a claim the BTP were working to a "London diktat" – could have harmed operational duties, he replied: "It could have done, but we are not going to let it." He said he plans to meet MacAskill soon.

But a spokesman for MacAskill said: "The justice secretary wants answers from British Transport Police on why these figures are so high – particularly when our eight local constabularies have always been able to react to similar threats and challenges yet only used these special powers on a much smaller scale."



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1

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 23/12/2007 00:18:11
Still no answer to the most obvious question. If these searches were not race-based, then WHY were records kept of all detainees that identified them by race and WHY did the British Transport Police see fit to prepare a race analysis of the searches and release them to the media?

I think we all know the real answer to those questions.
2

urban poacher,

Edinburgh 23/12/2007 01:10:28
The situation is obvious only non whites are travelling by train or what is the reason for the statistic that 2% of population get 14% of the searches. Out of 14,000 searches 280 should have been non white instead there were nearly 2,000, Never noticed a high proportion of non whites on trains.
3

W Smith,

Middle East 23/12/2007 06:35:02
Nice wee double act this is it not from our resident Axis of Weasel?

1)Salmond goes down to Westminster to vote against anti-terrorist laws and MacAskill is doing his best to make sure mulsim fanatics enjoy the freedom to move around the UK at will.

2) Salmond and MacAskill didn't criticise the police for failing to put armed officers at Glasgow airport.

3) Salmond and MacAskill are against 'dawn raids' as it will traumatise the children of terrorist supects. Palestinian children are encouraged to become hate filled jihadists from age 5 - but that's not an issue with the SNP.

I think the relatives of those who died in the London Underground were traumatised by their loss - but that didn't bother our Kenny!

4) One of the terrorists at Glasgow Airport was Indian. The Black Watch have invaded India and so this attack against Scots is justified eh Salmond?

5) The Students Islamic Movement of India carried out bombings on 11th July 2006, ON TRAINS in Mumbai (Bombay) killing 207 people using seven bombs placed on different trains.

The dead were Indian and India doesn't have troops in Iraq Mr Salmond - so whats yer latest excuse?
4

JR Ewing,

Aberdeen 23/12/2007 08:19:54
There is no evidence whatsoever that random searches are any form of deterrent. BTP style stop and search tactics would do little if anything to prevent a terrorist attack. They concentrate on the STOP rather than the search which at best is of a cursory nature. They have no presence in 90% of scots railway stations. Any self respecting terrorist will have checked that out long ago.

The Scottish police service use these tactics sparingly because they are fully aware of the limitations of such cursory searches and their tendency to encourage officers to concentrate on numbers rather than quality.

BTP is one of the three "private" police forces operating in Scotland but run from London. They have no local accountability. Since they published the figures expecting a pat on the back for their "fight against terrorism" I believe that MacAskill has every right to question the effectiveness of such tactics
5

Olivers_Army,

23/12/2007 09:00:58
During 30 years of the 'troubles' people with Irish accents were tracked more carefully than say your average Scotsman or Geordie..... why because the people planting bombs were more likely to be from Ireland.

The recent spate of bomb attacks and failed bomb attacks have almost exclusively been carried out by Asians. Why are they more likely to be stopped - because they are more likely to include the bombers..... doesnt take a 'rocket scientist'. What would the PC brigade have us do - waste time searching an equal amount of vehicles driven by white suburban mums in order to meet the 'racial quota' of equal stops?
6

Eric D,

Glasgow 23/12/2007 12:04:27
They shouldn't be searching ANY white person. They should be targetting Pakistani Muslims 100%.
7

Why can't I use my usual name?,

Glasgow 23/12/2007 12:29:18
Well said, #7, that would have caught out the 9/11 and Glasgow Airport terrorists. Oh no, hang on...

I would agree that you should stop and search those most likely to have useful information - and that is - at the current time - almost always young Muslim males. But you should only be using this tool if it is likely to be be useful... which it appears not to be, other than to make the vast majority of innocent young Muslim males stopped feel like they're being treated as guily without charge.
8

Musselburgh Postie,

Ho Chi Minh City 23/12/2007 14:54:40
this is absolute nonsense. Racism hasnothing to do with this.

Most terrorists in the UK come from the middle east or from the Indian sub continent.

Of course that is the reason why they are being stopped. If that is racisn then so be it as long as it keeps our comunities safe

Stop this stupid political correctness and get rid of the do gooders and then the terrorists will be easy

9

frank mcbride,

lusitania 23/12/2007 15:01:25
#7, Eric.

100% Pakistani Mulims?

No Pakistani Chritians? Pharsis?
No Muslims of any other country; particularly not WHITE Muslims?
No Black, Brown, Red, Green, Polkadot people, only Pakistani Muslims?

God preserve us from idiots.
10

Odin,

Scotland 23/12/2007 16:29:33
As far as I am aware only non-white British Muslims have engaged in mass murder on our public transport system and made a failed attempt to do the same at Glasgow Airport (Ramavanadan).

Why then, must white Brititsh people be searched???

The Police are obviously practising racial oppression against white people in Britain by searching white people.
11

Wisnaeme,

23/12/2007 17:27:31
W A Smith, middle east.

Ah but there is Indian troops stationed in the punjab, which according to some is an outrage and they must be encouraged to leave.

Simerlar to Iraq really in the sense that some folk have outstayed their welcome.
.
12

allymax,

upvinesass, scotland. 23/12/2007 21:23:30
Dear #4, I think Alex Salmond is fighting the westminster government on a lot of fronts, non less than how the british transport police are bullying everybody under their pre-empt policies. And I believe mr Salmond is doing the right thing for gaining ground to Scotland's independence by setting up all these contentions that now exist between the Scottish government and the english government.

On your statement about the black watch being in India, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the black watch set up to protect the english policies that were put in place after the 'highland clearances'?

Never-the-less, the btp are a bunch of totalitarian thugs pushing everybody around. They love the power bliar gave them. I still remember poor 'Walter' being thrown out of the new labour party conference by these bullying prats citing bliar's new laws. Shocking. A copper is a copper where-ever you go in britain.
13

MichScot,

USA 30/01/2008 15:32:43
What has happened to common sense? CS says that one should concentrate on those most likely to perpetrate the dastardly deeds.

 

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