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Zimbabwe: A broken nation



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Published Date: 06 April 2008
Toppling Mugabe would be just the start for a country that went from bread basket to basket case
Confusion: A Zimbabwean woman calls a friend in an attempt to find out the latest on the country's disputed elections. Photograph: AFP/Getty
Confusion: A Zimbabwean woman calls a friend in an attempt to find out the latest on the country's disputed elections. Photograph: AFP/Getty
MORGAN Tsvangirai has more problems this weekend than just proving that he has, as his supporters claim, won the right to be the new leader of Zimbabwe.

His immediate hurdle is a second, run-off presidential election in a few weeks time against incumbent Robert Mugabe, whose security agencies gerrymandered the results of the first poll eight days ago to give Tsvangirai less than the 50% of the total vote he needed for victory. The circumstances leading to the run-off suggest that Tsvangirai supporters will face widespread intimidation and violence from Mugabe's police, military, youth militiamen and the so-called 'war veterans' who drove white farmers from their properties with extreme violence from 2000 onwards.

But even if Tsvangirai, leader of the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), does emerge victorious against what will be massive odds, he will face an even greater challenge – the reconstruction of a once bountiful and beautiful country that has been almost totally destroyed by Mugabe and his top lieutenants.

The scale of the task will be immense. Since 2000 the economy has suffered devastation on a scale normally inflicted only by war or natural disaster. The country's Gross National Product is today more than 40% smaller than it was eight years ago.

While aid agencies estimate that African states need to sustain an annual GNP growth of 7% to make marginal advances, Zimbabwe under Mugabe has had the world's fastest declining economy for most of the past decade. This is mirrored in such statistics as inflation far in excess of a surreal 100,000%; an unemployment rate of 80%; the flight to other countries of a quarter of the population in search of work; and the world's lowest life expectancy – including a criminal rate of hardly 34 years for women compared with nearly 60 at independence in 1980.

The main pillar of the economy was then agriculture, in the shape of white-owned commercial farms. By seizing these farms with extreme violence and handing them to some 400,000 landless peasant villagers, without bothering to provide them with finance, training, farm machinery or title deeds, Mugabe wrecked commercial agriculture.

Subsequently, Mugabe ordered his armed services chief, General Constantine Chiwenga, to drive the peasants from the farms and give them instead to his close relatives, ministers, the country's top judges and armed forces and police officers, as well as pliant journalists and clergymen. These properties are now mainly used as weekend retreats and, for the most part, have ceased to be productive.

Zimbabwe, until the late 1990s a net food exporter, was known as the breadbasket of Africa. Now it is Africa's basket case. One of the substantial benefits of getting rid of Mugabe would be that Zimbabwe would likely immediately receive massive food aid from international agencies and governments. But reviving and reforming agriculture to guarantee long-term food supplies and a degree of prosperity would be a top priority of a Tsvangirai administration.

However, politically he cannot afford to return to the pre-2000 situation and restore white farmers to the land they once owned. Most of them have fled into exile in Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Zambia, Mozambique and Nigeria anyway. And, disastrous as the land invasions were, they were initially popular because white farmers occupied most of the best agricultural land and they were, for the most part, subsequent denials notwithstanding, deeply racist.

"Even before Robert Mugabe embarked on this ham-fisted measure, there was a national consensus on the need for land reform," said Tsvangirai in one interview. "There was no argument. The argument is over how it was done. We need to deal with that not as a political issue but as an administrative matter… The land has to be rationalised. It will be a big programme. It will take three to five to 10 years."

He said the MDC planned to establish an independent commission to carry out a land audit and to establish how Zimbabwe became a food deficit country in which most of the population lives at near-starvation levels. "The new programme will not discriminate on the basis of race," he said. "So some of the white farmers may find there is land for their farming activities, but not the same farm they had before."

"There are no white farmers, nor black farmers, only Zimbabweans," said the MDC's international affairs secretary Eliphas Mukonoweshuro. "Breaking the racist stereotypes upon which Mr Mugabe has built his incendiary policies will be one of the most significant tasks in order to set the country on a course of modernity and growth. We propose to reprise Zimbabwe's role as the breadbasket of southern Africa by putting to use fallow fields laid to waste by Mr Mugabe's supporters and cronies."

Some £30m in British aid has been on the table for years in the event of an equitable and legal programme of land reform in Zimbabwe, and now the government has pledged an additional £1bn in aid to any future government it considers to have been freely and fairly elected.

Michael Holman, for years the African editor of the Financial Times, has proposed that the £30m be devoted to a pilot land reform programme in a former commercial farming area near Zimbabwe's eastern border with Mozambique. Farmers dispossessed from 2000 onwards could be brought in to share their expertise with a wide range of Zimbabweans seeking to enter agriculture in a post-Mugabe era. Holman suggests that the Commonwealth, from which Mugabe withdrew in 2003 but which Tsvangirai is sure to rejoin, could coordinate the project. It is the kind of imaginative, tangential thinking that an MDC government will need to engage in on a huge scale to get Zimbabwe back on its feet.

While feeding the people and reviving agriculture will be top of the agenda, restoring tourism in one of the world's most spectacular countries, industry and mining would fully occupy Tsvangirai, as well as the creation of a new currency and bringing under control a destructive inflation rate which is even worse than anything Germany's Weimar Republic experienced in the 1920s.

The big question will become whether Morgan Tsvangirai is up to the job. Tsvangirai, the eldest of nine children of a bricklayer, left school at 16 without academic qualifications to work at the rock face in a nickel mine. He was an active trade unionist and in 1984 spent nine months in Britain, where he witnessed the coal miners' strike and met union leader Arthur Scargill.

In 1988 he was elected Secretary-General of the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions. He transformed the ZCTU into a powerful opposition force, organising a series of nationwide strikes against the increasingly oppressive policies of Mugabe and his ruling ZANU-PF party.

Surviving a number of attempts on his life, he formed the MDC and in 2002 narrowly lost a heavily rigged presidential election, inflicting an extraordinary blow to Mugabe's aura of power. Tsvangirai was initially regarded as a hero and was widely compared to South Africa's iconic superstar Nelson Mandela.

But although he has posed the only credible threat to Mugabe in 28 years, he is no longer seen in the same heady league as Mandela. His record inside MDC is widely questioned. Party workers describe him as vacillating and indecisive. Tsvangirai described his defeat in the 2002 presidential election as "daylight robbery", but he proved unable to lead shocked Zimbabweans in any kind of protest strategy. Such indecision became a hallmark of the MDC leadership and led to deep and widespread frustration among party activists. In parliamentary elections in 2005 the party saw its previous tally of 57 seats fall to 41 against ZANU-PF's comfortable 78.

Worse still, former supporters began to accuse Tsvangirai and his top MDC officials of cowardice as well as incompetence. The MDC leaders were accused of encouraging "the masses" to take the lead in anti-Mugabe street protests while they stayed at the rear of the action. Consequently, call after call by Tsvangirai for mass protests failed ignominiously.

Harare bank clerk Humphrey Mutasa expressed a common sense of pessimism when he said he would refuse to take part in any demonstration called by Tsvangirai. "To tell you the truth, I would rather suffer quietly at home and in peace than be beaten up and still continue to suffer," said Mutasa. "Nothing will change after half-hearted attempted mass protests and boycotts. Let's say the people pour into the streets. And then what? They will just throw stones and call Mugabe names. That will not force Mugabe to flee the country, will it?"

Tsvangirai has increasingly demonstrated a lack of political savvy. Time and time again, he has been found wanting when his leadership was needed most. He also began to demonstrate worryingly autocratic traits. In 2004 party thugs loyal to Tsvangirai's inner 'kitchen cabinet' launched a series of assaults on critics within the party, seizing their party vehicles and sometimes manhandling them out of the MDC's headquarters building.

Tsvangirai ignored appeals to stop the violence that was polluting the party and its reputation, and in October 2005 the MDC split into two factions over leadership and policy differences.

The factions began attacking each other with more vigour than they criticised Mugabe and his government. They entered last month's presidential election as separate parties, splitting the anti-government vote and allowing Mugabe to stay in the last chance saloon, from where in the coming weeks he may well emerge for a sixth Presidential term.

In their current dire situation, Zimbabweans are so desperate for change that they will cling on to the coattails of anyone who promises change. To that extent, Tsvangirai is these days what ordinary Zimbabweans describe as the "ABM (Anyone but Mugabe) factor".

Tsvangirai's more recent courage has not been in doubt. Last year he suffered a fractured skull, mild brain damage and internal bleeding in a severe police assault after he took part in a prayer meeting that had been deemed illegal by the Mugabe government.

But in January, his obstinacy resulted in the failure of an attempt to reunite the two MDC factions. A pact had been near-agreed in which faction members would not oppose each other in parliamentary constituencies. Tsvangirai was holding out for one more candidate for his camp. but, under pressure from his militants, he raised the demand to more than 20 seats. The pact collapsed and the consequences were woefully apparent in the 29 March parliamentary vote. Mugabe's ZANU-PF took more than six seats that were uselessly contested by both MDC factions.

If Tsvangirai is not able to overcome Mugabe's survival strategy in the coming days, his own future will probably be political oblivion as new and younger opponents of Mugabe try to end their country's misery. If Tsvangirai does somehow survive the blitz being planned by Mugabe and his generals, then he will face a host of problems in addition to food, farming and inflation.

Doctors, for example, have stopped performing routine surgery in the country's major hospitals because of a lack of anaesthetics and other basic medical supplies. A new report on staffing levels within the crumbling healthcare system paints a dire picture of the impact of the brain drain, with vacancy rates for crucial skills in hospitals as high as 70%. More than 3,500 nurses and 1,000 doctors have left the country since 2000 in search of decent wages and conditions. Care homes throughout Britain are staffed by Zimbabweans who remit most of their wages home to help their families survive.

Last year, a parliamentary committee heard that Zimbabwe's potholed road network was crumbling because there was not a single civil engineer left in government service. More than three million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population, are working outside the country.

Both Tsvangirai and Mugabe are now desperate men. But if the MDC leader can survive the coming assault by Mugabe and his generals, his new government would mark a significant new beginning. The international community stands ready to assist Zimbabweans in getting back on their feet. And millions of skilled Zimbabweans around the world are just waiting for the end of the Mugabe era to go home and rebuild their shattered nation.

'The world must insist the democratic verdict is upheld'

PETER HAIN


AFTER all the prevarication – and sometimes outright complicity – with Robert Mugabe's horrific rule in Zimbabwe, this is a moment for the international community to stand rock solid and tell him his time is up.

Although he has stolen elections before, the verdict of his long-suffering people has been resounding in this latest one. No amount of his poll rigging, no amount of intimidation or brutality against opponents, none of this by now familiar manipulation by Mugabe and his clique could hide the bravery of Zimbabweans in resolutely voting against him, as confirmed by independent monitors.

For the first time Zimbabweans could see election results as they were posted up outside local polling stations, a procedure insisted upon by Pretoria. For the first time, they were able to safeguard the ballot by sending these results to independent monitoring centres which showed a clear win for the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) leader, Morgan Tsvangirai.

Indeed, the fact that Mugabe did not quickly claim victory as he has always done confirms that he knew he had lost. But the machinations of his clique since demonstrate a determination to cling on to power regardless.

Now his ruling Zanu-PF party has come up with a new ruse. All but conceding an obvious defeat, and massaging the results of the presidential election through hand-picked officials on the Electoral Commission, the outcome is being presented as "unclear" and therefore requiring a re-run.

But what is their real plan? To bring out their henchmen in a violent assault on the opposition and (like in 2002) to terrorise voters, especially in the rural areas, into staying at home or succumbing again. The recent appearance of Mugabe's militia – the so-called 'war veterans' – is ominous; the threats of martial law even more so.

This is a moment of truth for Africa and especially the southern African neighbours. An African solution to this African crisis is needed now, even more than before. Though embarrassed by Mugabe, these leaders have deferred to him as the heroic liberation leader of decades ago rather than the corrupt tyrant he has become.

For me this has been painfully poignant. With many others I was thrilled at Mugabe's 1980 landslide win in the country's first ever democratic election after generations of racist white minority rule. I vividly recall black electors queuing in their millions as dawn broke, allowed to vote for the very first time.

But over the past 10 years especially, Mugabe has savagely prostituted the freedom struggle he once led so ably. With murder, torture, maiming, incarceration and intimidation of opponents, he copied the very techniques of repression used against him and his comrades in that struggle.

Zimbabwe was once the jewel in Africa's crown, a beautiful and hospitable land to visit, with the highest standards of education on the continent, good infrastructure, and a strong and growing economy. Yet, these past 10 years, Mugabe has all but destroyed it, turning a booming agricultural sector – breadbasket not just for his people but surrounding nations too – into a barren wasteland.

With corruption institutionalised, inflation has surged to a mind-boggling 100,000%. Unemployment is a staggering 80%, power cuts are rife and starvation widespread. The impact on neighbours has also been destabilising. Millions of refugees have escaped into South Africa and other nations, with all the accompanying disruption.

His black tyranny is an ugly stain on Africa; for me almost as abhorrent as the white tyranny of apartheid I and my parents fought so hard to defeat.

As Britain's Africa minister eight years ago I recall being asked what would happen to Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe. It will get worse and worse was my prediction, unfortunately proving distressingly and horribly true.

What people have been unwilling to acknowledge about Mugabe is that he is not susceptible to diplomacy. I recall trying to disabuse some of my Foreign Office officials of this, and also arguing with ministerial friends in southern African governments.

After a colossal failure of diplomacy – for Britain, for South Africa, Europe, the United Nations, the Commonwealth – for everyone concerned, the international community must insist that the democratic verdict is upheld and that there is an orderly transfer of power, with Mugabe and his elite offered a safe passage if they wish. This requires global engagement from the United Nations in New York to Beijing (China has been bankrolling Mugabe as it buys up the country's rich resources).

Above all it requires Zimbabwe's neighbours in the Southern African Development Community to engage and speak with the same voice of democracy.

This is no time for diplomatic niceties or pretence that a re-run election could be a solution. Mugabe needs to be presented with the only language he has ever understood: an uncompromising insistence that he has no alternative. He must obey the democratic will of his people, go and go now. And in so doing, ironically liberate his people for the second time in his long career.

• Peter Hain MP is a former Labour Cabinet minister

MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai. Photograph: EPA
MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai. Photograph: EPA
Mugabe plots his next move as justice looms

Kevin Kane

AFTER the crash of his previous helicopter last year, Robert Mugabe was surely looking forward to flying around Zimbabwe in his new, gleaming white £3m HM036, bought in March from China's Shenzhen Zhangyeng Corporation.

He may also have been looking forward to living in his new Harare home, a palace with 25 ensuite bedrooms set among lake-strewn grounds. It cost more than £15m to build in a country where most people earn less than the equivalent of £6 a month.

If his presidency is doomed – either soon or by a thousand hostile knife cuts and betrayals over coming weeks or months or years – Mugabe, 84, will be less concerned with chopper jaunts and admiring the paintings by imported Arab artists on his arched ceilings than with the thousands of people who will loudly demand justice and revenge for his many alleged crimes.

Mugabe's biggest concern, and that of General Constantine Chiwenga, chief of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces, and Augustine Chihuri, Commissioner General of the Zimbabwe Republic Police, will be the likely repercussions from their 2005 Operation Murambatsvina ('Drive Out The Trash'). In that operation some 2.5 million poor town dwellers perceived to be supporters of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) were made homeless.

Ostensibly a slum clearance project, Chiwenga and Chihuri directed the Murambatsvina assault by soldiers and policemen in which more than 700,000 houses were smashed by bulldozers and sledgehammers. Chihuri crowed that the operation was designed to "clean the country of the crawling mass of maggots bent on destroying the economy".

If a new head of state makes Zimbabwe a signatory to the 2002 Rome Treaty underpinning the International Criminal Court (ICC), Mugabe, Chiwenga and Chihuri would be eligible for trial in The Hague to answer alleged crimes against humanity.

As Mugabe and his cronies cling to power, they will surely be considering whether they can negotiate amnesty for their alleged crimes if Morgan Tsvangirai, left, becomes president. However, there is nothing to stop Murambatsvina victims independently petitioning Moreno-Ocampo, a former Argentinian human rights lawyer, to prosecute Mugabe and his security chiefs. Moreno-Ocampo would be legally obliged to investigate.

Many Murambatsvina victims were forced to destroy their own homes at gunpoint. No one knows how many died as a direct result of the operation.

Mugabe has already been devastatingly censured by Anna Tibaijuka, the special United Nations envoy sent to Zimbabwe by the secretary-general to investigate Murambatsvina. In her report, Tibaijuka described the operation as "a catastrophic injustice, carried out with disquieting indifference to human suffering".

She stopped just short of describing Murambatsvina as a crime against humanity – one of the two specific indictments, with war crimes, on which the ICC is legally able to bring charges.

"This is a genocide police," said Dr Steve Kibble, of the Catholic Institute for International Relations. "It's a strategy of letting the urban population die by leaving them to starve in the bush rather than facing the bullets of Mugabe's goons. It doesn't cost them a cent."

Assuming that Mugabe is not totally paranoid and deluded, that he has some residual concept of having done wrong, he will also be frantically worried about the consequence of the massacres he ordered in 1983 of Ndebele people in the west of his country, purportedly to suppress a small insurgency but actually to crush all dissidence.

Mugabe unleashed the North Korean-trained 5th Brigade, personally answerable to the head of state and not to the army chief, and soon some 30,000 were dead in Operation Gukurahundi (a Shona word meaning "The early rain that washes away the chaff before the spring rains"].

Most of the dead were shot in public executions, often being forced to dig their own graves in front of family and fellow villagers.

No one has ever been brought to trial for the Gukurahundi.

Mugabe knows also that there have been innumerable smaller scale killings between the big ones. If his bloodied fingers are finally wrested from the levers of power, would Mugabe stay or flee? He has always insisted he would only leave Zimbabwe in a coffin, and most commentators agree that he would stay and fight. If he did jump ship, the search parties should start looking for him in Malaysia, one of the few places he is able to travel to freely; it is also said to be where he has stashed the money – perhaps billions of pounds – that he has bled from his country.

Bloggers' views... Zimbabwe speaks

Just when we thought that the Hurricane that is Mugabe will quietly and SWIFTLY die down and jump the country, he managed to make an appearance for the first time since casting his ballot on Saturday, March 29.

Meanwhile, our favourite fame-seeking Simba Makoni says he will throw his weight to MDC PRESIDENT Morgan Tsvangirai, should the votes go to the run-off. And ex-pat Zimbabweans around the world have vowed to go back home, and are ready for the new dispensation. A brand new dawn is rising is Zimbabwe!

Obakeng, The Chief
http://onctoday.co.za/2008/04/03/the-hurricane-is-still-alive/

It's hard to believe that the night before last the news was buzzing insanely with stories that Mugabe was on the brink of stepping down and going. Tonight the news has swung like a pendulum with talk of a Mugabe crackdown against the opposition. We saw him on TV seeing off the AU observers and almost immediately afterwards (like two fingers thrown up to the world) the news switched to the MDC MT offices being raided and riot police at the Meikles Hotel: apparently Tendai Biti, the MDC MT Secretary General was staying there. There are times when you have simply run out of energy, the fuel tank is drained and you are stuck on the road to nowhere. For tonight, Robert Mugabe has won the battle.

http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/

Behind the doors of the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe, where notorious governor Gideon Gono, the man many hold as responsible for the country's financial melt-down, seems to be in a state of panic. There, he and his staff are ransacking files that go back many years and cover many strange dealings for which he and other ministers have been responsible. The files are loaded into cars, and rushed away. I am told that a big bonfire can be seen burning at the back of Gono's Glen Lorne house.

Moses Moyo Our Man in Harare
http://www.zimbabwetoday.co.uk

Even if Tsvangirai is sworn in as president, his party's parliamentary majority is so razor-thin that he will not be able to ram through constitutional changes without ZANU-PF support. Mugabe may be on his way out, but based on its number of parliamentary seats, ZANU-PF is far from finished.

Chido Makunike, Zimbabwe Review
http://zimreview.wordpress.com/



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Dáithí,

San Jose 06/04/2008 03:18:31
From the article:

"The scale of the task will be immense. Since 2000 the economy has suffered devastation on a scale normally inflicted only by war or natural disaster."

The writer forgot to mention Marxism, in this case the 'holy grail' of Marxism - land redistribution.

The article would be more accurate to term it "devastation on a scale normally inflicted only by war, natural disaster or Marxism."
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dorothy,

New Mexico USA 06/04/2008 06:16:34
Just a note, I'm not sure you mean "gerrymandered" as in rigged or fraudulent poll results. A gerrymander is an unevenly drawn map of voting boundaries, usually manipulated to achieve certain predictable election results. It is done before an election occurs and is most often legal, or at least legally agreed to by election officials on all sides. (Texas is famous for this, courtesy of a certain Tom Delay.)

BTW nobody knows what would have happened if the confiscated land in Zimbabwe had been turned over to working farmers rather than Mugabe's non-farming cronies. I'm a committed capitalist but I don't think you can lay the Mugabe kleptocracy at the door of communist policy.
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Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek AUSTRALIA 06/04/2008 07:52:40
My last comment on this subject a couple of days ago was removed I believe because it was taken the wrong way,my " tongue in cheek" comment was.....I wonder what Africa was like before the whiteman came along and civilized the people.STOP.
Who taught them corruption, who paid the kickbacks and supplied the weapons in return for raping the continent of its riches, the never ending story just goes on and on, we created frankensteins monsters. and now we cant stop them.
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El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 06/04/2008 08:02:43
The Labour Government under Harold Wilson sowed the NIBMAR wind, now the people of Zimbabwe are reaping the wirlwind (appologies to Sir Winston Chirchill).

Mugabe will eventually go, hopefully in the way Saddam Hussein went, Caucescu of Rumania went, etc..
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El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 06/04/2008 08:04:21
Let us pray that the international community (UN) will take decisive action to get rid of this octogenarian despot.
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El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 06/04/2008 08:45:09
There is a nice Spanish saying

A CADA PUERCO LLEGA SU SANMARTIN This means that the day of reckoning comes to everyone

A literal translation is

TO EACH PIG THERE ARRIVES HIS MARTIN MASS, i.e. The day on which the pig is killed

However, all this is cold comfort to the unfortunate people of Zimbabwe. They need action and not words.
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 06/04/2008 09:16:03
Relax: Mugabe will die of natural causes soon, as will his regime. Sadly, another similar regime will replace him.
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Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 06/04/2008 09:49:20
Hello All,

Anyone waiting for the Corrupt United Nations Scum to help solve the problem in Zimbabwe, had better get in line and NOT hold their breaths waiting for that help:

The dead of Rwanda are STILL waiting and there's nary a helping hand from the worthless UN.

I would also note that the EU sat on its hands, despite the fact that TWO EU Member States, Belgium and France, BOTH had military units in the area and STILL allowed the slaughter/mass murder to proceed.

If people in Zimbabwe want to eat when they want to again, and to be able to buy food at reasonable prices, then INVITE the white farmers back into the country, with a law giving them their lands back, remuneration for all they lost, and written proof that those lands will NEVER be taken away again.

This won't happen of course, so the people will continue to starve.

Cheers from the Rockies
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Media 1,

cape town 06/04/2008 10:13:38
Neanderthal

The United Nations do so much for Africa. As does the rest of the world.
Billions upon Billions upon Billions of food and money is sent to Africa year after year after year. Hand out after hand out after hand out is given to Africa.
When does Africa stand up for itself and begin acting responsibly? Do we just give and give and give and never expect Africa to offer anything back?
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Scotish Exile,

06/04/2008 10:41:47
If their was oil in Zimbabwe........?????
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Media 1,

cape town 06/04/2008 11:09:14
Scottish Exile.

If there was no oil in the North Sea then international investment in Aberdeen would be non existant. That is how the world works regardless of the underlying principle! You get nothing for nothing in this world
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Expat in Amsterdam,

Wild frontier, Western Europe 06/04/2008 11:20:46
It would appear that all decent minded people would like Mugabe removed, and the country helped to get back on its feet.
True, it doesn't have oil, but what about its potential to help feed the world ("Breadbasket of Africa")?
So when are the so-called democratically elected governments of 'civilised' countries (UK, Benelux, France, Germany, et al.) going to listen to the populace, get off their collective backsides, throw their mealy-mouthed 'diplomacy' excuses overboard and forcefully remove a monster who, in my opinion, is much worse than Saddam Hussein was...
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Kilted Hulk,

Lacey, wash/NW USA 06/04/2008 11:43:15
Why do we send food and money to Dictators any way, we KNOW what will happen. Cut off all aid to any country that is not ruled by its people. Stop all aid from scheming countries like China And Russia that only want to make host countries slave satellites as with Cuba. Re create the UN into the united police force it was meant to be and bring food and sustenance to the people under the guard of the new UN police. Create a government of the people fashioned after any successful country, guide it but do not conquer it. Once the country is on its feet, send it a bill from the world bank. The world prior to WWII was run on a bankers system, we give (LOAN)you help and you pay us back the Loan. After WWII no one had to pay back loans, they were forgiven, especially if a local government was overthrown. Bad Business............ that has gotten the world in the shape its in now. The haves( you and I in the form of our countries) throwing money at problems with no hope of "Pay Back", weather its with food products, oil, or minerals. The aided country has to repay the debt it incurred with a % of its National Production.
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Stu_R_20,

Edinburgh 06/04/2008 12:50:18
#7
Couldn't agree more, my uncle was a white farmer in Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe and was chased off his land. Subsequently, they replaced him with blacks, on a visit there a few years ago the land was in dire condition, the house dilapidated and everything else lay in ruin. These people got what they deserved.
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Neil,

Glasgow 06/04/2008 13:04:25
Considering that what Mugabe did to the white farmers was to take their land while our own dear government kills tenagers to take their body organs I don't think we are in a position to condemn.
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Sanny,

Glasgow 06/04/2008 13:49:37
Does any one remember Hain and his unstinted support for Messrs. Mugabe and Nkomoon their replacing Mr. Smith? Or that Mugabe twice tried to assonate Nkomo.
Or how, on achieving their independence from the British Empire, they started a tribal war between their two respective tribes.

Politics in Africa is tribal and not about political philosophies as we know them in the West. When the colonisers left they should have divided the land and set up countries according to tribal areas. It is now too late and we either let them sort it out among themselves or we impose rule for outside Africa. Either way there will continue to be bloodshed in these sad countries.

The Majority of educated Africans with the skills required to administer the country do not live in Africa. Mostly they live in the west. It is theses people that need to return to their origins and take part in the reconstruction, or more properly the construction of their native lands. First they need to feed the people then to educate them to enable them to take an active role in the government of their country.
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Sanny,

Upwey 06/04/2008 13:50:58
17 Neil,
I think your statement is way over the top and totally untrue!
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Sanny,

06/04/2008 13:55:03
Oops Nkomoon!! Nkomo
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Media 1,

cape town 06/04/2008 17:19:54
Keystone

You are 100% correct. Black Africa does not have the intelligence to operate like white Europe. That is not to say that black people are less superior to white people, nothing could be further from the truth. The colour of your skin is of no relevance when it comes to individual success. But when you put a community of black together and a community of white together, the facts suggest that the white community will be far more advanced in all levels of management, from local committees, to management of the community, education, services and overall cleaniliness. Many black people live in these white communities and fit in well, and why wouldnt they? But these black people who live in white communities are mindful of the fact that the life they seek can only be attained by adopting a white mans approach to life in general. That is not to say that white people are better, but enmasse they are better at building community, law, order and social structures. There is ofcourse times when this is not the case with white communities, and there is many areas around the world that make that clear, but they are few and far between.
Africa is governed by power hungry former freedom fighters, not politicians.
23

dorothy,

New Mexico USA 06/04/2008 18:03:03
Once again, I'm not defending land redistribution because it has its own problems. But the land stolen from white farmers (and we all agree the right word is stolen) was never turned over to those who could (knew how to farm) or would (cared what happened to the population) keep it in cultivation. The new landowners weren't failures because they were black, they were failures because they were Mugabe cronies with no intention of farming the land.
24

Media 1,

cape town 06/04/2008 18:39:13
Land reform is load of bull sh!t! How far back do you go? Do you only go back to when the white man arrived and then give the Zulu's and the Tswana's a few hundred hectares of handout? Or do you go back to before the white man arrived and kick the Zulu's into touch so that the Khoisan they displaced can be given their land back?
Land reform my erse! White people arrived and turned the barren nothingness into towns that became cities and so on. End of story
25

Stirling Sentinel,

Stirling 06/04/2008 21:36:26
This could be Scotland in about 30 years time. Land reform measures introduced by the SNP could echo those introduced by Mugabe. Bring back the white (English) landlords and abolish Community (Black ?) Land ownership projects. Look at Eigg, a basket case if ever there was one !
26

indune1,

Canada 06/04/2008 22:20:16

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mugabe has a rubber chopper?
27

Rodger the Leith lodger,

edinburgh 06/04/2008 22:59:12
Well maybe 25, more like the rubber heid of media 1 - what a total f@d. Must be sitting on the net giving us the 'real lowdown' from the cape grace hotel, just bordering harare -mmm think not.
This f@d suggests taht "lack Africa does not have the intelligence to operate like white Europe". Mmmm, Guantánamo Bay, bosnia & serbia WW1, WW2, IRA, iraq, afghanistan (need I go on)
Well, perhaps that is because it is not europe? Why not leave them alone to re-draw the boundaries and sort themselves out. I am sure there will be a queue of expat rhodes gaggin on a chance to feast on the caracas.
But, wait a minute, will mr f@d be on the streets fighting for 'africa' when china takes over and pulls the plug on the new rhode land, internet and votes?
28

Stirling Sentinel,

Stirling 06/04/2008 23:44:42
Suggest 27 puts the cork back in the bottle ! Can anyone else understand what he is talking about?.I know it is getting late !
29

Rodger the Leith lodger,

edinburgh 06/04/2008 23:59:35
Sorry Stirling, should have been a responde to #26. And btw - cork was in the bottle 15 yrs ago. Maybe I'm being too cryptic to dodge the edits and trying to encourage thought, but for decypher, @ = U......
30

indune1,

Canada 07/04/2008 00:47:42
29 - Cryptic? F*d?

Oh, I get it, Elmer F*d! Ooooo you wabbit, you!

Now back yo my original question: I s there any truth to the rumour that Mugabe has a rubber chopper?

Michelin Mugabe! Bridgestone Bobbie!
31

indune1,

Canada 07/04/2008 00:48:20

BTW - what is wrong about F*d?
32

oder,

Scotland 07/04/2008 01:52:21
12 Scotish Exile,06/04/2008

Sudan has oil! mainly in the Christian South and all of it being spent in the Muslim north, that ends the argument that the west only gets involved if there oil, the west has no interest to become embroiled!...for oil or whats right!
33

SouthernGent,

07/04/2008 01:56:20
#11 Media 1

You just described the Democratic party of the US.

The solution is education, not money. Teach them to farm so they may feed themselves, give them money so that they learn to do nothing except extend their hand. This problem exists in all countries, and will remain until those in need CHOOSE to help themselves.
34

tyson,

Severna Park 07/04/2008 18:50:14
#3 "I wonder what Africa was like before the white man came along..." Tongue in cheek or not, check out the film, "Shaka Zulu" for a pretty good guess. Life for most folks was still nasty brutish and short.

 

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