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Published Date: 08 November 2009
By Eddie Barnes
Political Editor
LABOUR is to issue a personal message from Sir Alex Ferguson to 40,000 homes in Glasgow this week in which the Manchester United boss offers his backing to their campaign.
Govan-born Ferguson claims a Labour candidate is required to "stop the city being ripped off" by the SNP government, as the party attempts to drive home its attack against the Nationalist administration.

But the SNP has insisted it is closing the gap on Labour, and in touching distance to take the seat away from Labour for the first time in 74 years.

The by-election will be held on Thursday, with Labour candidate Willie Bain still the clear favourite to be elected as a replacement for the former Speaker Michael Martin, who resigned in the summer following the expenses scandal.

Ferguson said he was supporting Bain as a local candidate. "Glasgow is my home city and every time I come back, I see the changes for the better since 1997. Glasgow doesn't always get its fair share, so I know the value of having someone able to stop the city being ripped off."

Senior Labour party sources say they fear the BNP could come third in the race, because support for the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats appears to be flat-lining.

The BNP said yesterday it believed it could keep its deposit – by recording 5 per cent of the vote – for the first time in a Scottish Westminster poll.






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08/11/2009 00:09:03
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DialMforMurdoX,

08/11/2009 00:17:51
Yep, I'm sure the Govan born, former Rangers player Sir Alex will go down a treat with all the voters in the GNE.

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colin, crombie,

dunfermline 08/11/2009 00:18:11
cauld kale het up again
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Baggy Troosers,

08/11/2009 00:18:16
Fergie is an idiot.

Your city is being ripped of is it.
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08/11/2009 00:21:51
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Labour Lies,

08/11/2009 00:34:20

That will be the same Alex Ferguson who turned his back on Scotland when he was offered the opportunity to manage the national team.

The same Alex Ferguson who turns his back on Glasgow when his pals in the British Labour Party are overseeing the closure of the Glasgow to Kings Cross rail link.

Still, to be fair, he did get a knighthood for his services to the British Labour Party just like Michael Martin’s been elevated to the Lords for his services in trying to keep a lid on the Labour expense scandal.

I wish the Labour Part would stop treating Glaswegians as mugs.
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colin, crombie,

dunfermline 08/11/2009 00:34:46
when the now enobled (yes another one)Labour MP O'Neill claimed that Labour's biggest challenge was keeping people poor 'to keep them voting Labour'-i hope they cant look back in history and see Glasgow North East as a success
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Castaway™ ,

08/11/2009 00:35:46
Ferguson claims a Labour candidate is required to "stop the city being ripped off"
Glasgow North East - It has 17.5% male unemployment, 6.4% female unemployment and 12.2% overall unemployment, according to the House of Commons publication, Unemployment by Constituency, August 2009 Research Paper 09/72,
16 September 2009::http://tinyurl.com/ybfnrng

Out of 628 Westminster constituencies, Glasgow North East is the 615th worst for people with no qualifications, and out of the 59 in Scotland, it is 4th from the bottom. That is to say, more than a quarter (25.5%) of people in Glasgow North East have no qualifications at all.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 08/11/2009 00:44:51
Which section of the Glasgow NE electorate is Fergusson and NuLabour targeting with this leaflet, I wonder?
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Brianwci,

08/11/2009 00:46:01
Alex Ferguson is an excellent example of multiple intelligence and how one intelligence....in his case football management and reading the game of football can be at genius level while another, reading the game of politics is tied up in its neat little ribbon still waiting to be used.

Glasgow you half wit has been getting ripped off for 74 years by London Labour who have always viewed the Glasgow voters as electoral fodder to produce wave after wave of ineffectual Labour MPs.

Why would London Labour have to try and win the Glasgow vote when the good hearted voters rush to support them election after election?

London labour has had its chance. It's time for a change.
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GH1,

Voting SNP in Glasgow North East 08/11/2009 00:47:00
Govan-born Ferguson claims a Labour candidate is required to "stop the city being ripped off" by the SNP government, as the party attempts to drive home its attack against the Nationalist administration.

Is this guy a complete moron? Clearly Mr Ferguson hasn't been reading Fr Brown's take on the North East constituency. I mean, the man only lives here. Let me quote him.

"Crushing rates of unemployment and the area's record levels of deprivation have led to a sense of resigned despair. Ground down by a life living off the state, people have little self-esteem. As a result, many aren't interested in developing their lives"

And Ferguson believes these 40,000 souls are being ripped off by the SNP???

After 74 years of total Labour neglect in the area, Glasgow North East is now reckoned to be one of the poorest, most deprived areas in the whole of Europe.

I was always told to keep politics out of football or vice versa. Ferguson clearly hasn't been listening.

I know what I'll be using his leaflet for if he pops one through my letterbox.
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Handsome Scotsman,

08/11/2009 00:47:24

Labour are clearly worried.
And so they should be.
They can see that the usual campaign style of smears and fears no longer works like the good old days.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 00:48:35

Now was this a goal or a foul, Alex Ferguson?, did the referee see this one?




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GH1,

Voting SNP in Glasgow North East 08/11/2009 01:08:48
"Govan-born Ferguson claims a Labour candidate is required to "stop the city being ripped off" by the SNP government, as the party attempts to drive home its attack against the Nationalist administration."

But hold on. This is a Westminster by-election. Does Alex Ferguson really believe there is a Nationalist administration and an SNP government in Whitehall? Or does he know something we don't?
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Labour Lies,

08/11/2009 01:17:22

From The Observer:

“Gordon Brown stands accused today of misleading the public over his much-vaunted plans to help young people through the recession. Leaked documents show the government is planning drastic cuts for its flagship plan to train a new generation of apprentices”

Labour caught out lying yet again.

I guess Alex Ferguson will be supporting this though.
16

jafra loo,

08/11/2009 01:18:54
Home rule
who can argue?
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the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 08/11/2009 01:39:43
Well that is Sir Alex career over then.
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Eduardinho,

08/11/2009 01:40:59
I think Im having DeJavu!
Labour did exactly the same thing in 2005 at the last General Election and in 2007 the Scottish Election
Alex Ferguson gives his support against Independence
blah blah!
Who gives a monkeys!
Labour are on the ropes, they have been found out with their lies on funding Apprentiships. the G20 fifnance ministers ALL of them have told Brown to get stuffed regarding his tax on banking
Its all coming apart for Labour
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Jimbo2,

08/11/2009 02:06:47
I think London Labour have an over exaggerated sense of Ferguson's importance to the good people of Glasgow NE.

When the day arrives that the BNP have a list MSP at Holyrood, you can bet everything you've got that London Labour's Scottish branch will be happy to form an alliance with him/her in order to form an administration.
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Freeman Stand,

08/11/2009 02:07:45
I take it Sir Alex is planning a post retirement return to his native city. Perhaps he's planning to buy a bijou little flat in the utopian dreamland of Springburn created under 74 years of Labour representation: or perhaps not.

The Labour legacy in Glasgow North East is a record of education, health and unemployment statistics that would not look out of place in the Third World.
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Canada,

Canada 08/11/2009 02:27:11
Stick to football Alex. Look at the state of Govan after years of labour representation.
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walter,

08/11/2009 03:38:11
Alex Ferguson is a half wit, the people of Glasgow NE are also half wits.
They will remain so until they show their support for the SNP by voting SNP.
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WGWYA,

08/11/2009 03:50:04
Desperate stuff from labour and the biggest moaning bar steward in fitba.
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Sean K,

Elgin 08/11/2009 03:52:16
Having read Sir Alex's autobiography, I can fully understand his concerns for Glasgow and his working class sympathies stemming from his upbringing on Clydeside, and his engineering apprenticeship there.

Alex also did Scotland proud when he took Aberdeen to triple titles and to European victory. He also stood strongly againat sectarian bigotry, having a Catholic wife, - despite his brief service with Rangers.

But he is now a multi-millionaire, and with his knighthood, has been fully integrated into English and unionist culture. If he really studied Glasgow's decline under Labour rule, he would realise that all Gordon Brown can offer is rhetoric.

Only a nationalist government can address the social and economic problems of the formerly great city. Labour can offer only a repeat of past neglect compounded by its bankrupt financial policies.

Of course, in the present situation, a minority government short-changed by Westminster can't yet bring the big investments and changes needed. But they will still do better than any unionist government.
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suileandubh,

08/11/2009 04:25:12
how many folk in Glasgow actually care what alex ferguson says? Does Labour really believe bringing in someone who didn't even stay home to run a Scottish team is going to change things. I'm guessing most of the target voters are either Celtic or Rangers anyhow.
He's being used by Labour and the voters are being treated like glakit fools.
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suileandubh,

08/11/2009 04:29:34
#28 Sean K
If 'Sir' Alex is that proud of Glasgow how come he's been south of the border running one of the world's richest football teams?
However i agree with you, Glasgow doesn't need more Labour. It's been strangled by it for too long. Let's hope no-one listens.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 04:30:47
Tee hee I can't help but laugh at the sight of a football manager claiming that Glaswegians are being ripped off. His whole industry rips people off, so it's rather a case of pots and kettles isn't it. Only if I am challenged I will be able to tell you how football fans are ripped off - he couldn't tell you how Glaswegians are being ripped off by the Scottish Govt, as they are not.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 05:26:33
Observer,,Glasgow 08/11/2009 04:30:47

I fully agree with your statement that:-

"football fans are ripped off"
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From time to time various clubs like Manchester United come to South Africa to have their "replica kit" made, and then sell it at REAL RIP OFF prices from their shops.

Recently I sponsored a South African football team for kit. They play in the same kit as one of the major professional sides in Scotland.

A clothing manufacturer in Durban happened to be supplying that Scottish club and some Premier League English teams with official merchandise.

The factory shop of that manufacturer supplied me with 18 shirts (complete with hologram sewn in badge - official merchandise).

I paid R50 (Fifty Rand) per shirt - approximately £4.00.

Man United's Megastore is currently selling home shirts for £42.99.
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Alex Ferguson says:-

"I know the value of having someone able to stop the city being ripped off"
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Ferguson certainly knows the value of "Ripping Off" others.


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Aldi Shopper,

Irvine 08/11/2009 05:41:12
From the Observer:

Gordon Brown stands accused today of misleading the public over his much-vaunted plans to help young people through the recession. Leaked documents show the government is planning drastic cuts for its flagship plan to train a new generation of apprentices.

Confidential papers obtained by The Observer show that, while Brown and his ministers have suggested they are raising investment in training, skills and apprenticeships, behind the scenes they are preparing some £350m of cuts for 2010-11 that will slash the number of training places on offer by hundreds of thousands.

I thought Brown promised Glasgow North East help and training for the unemployed
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 08/11/2009 05:42:01
Glasgow is as grotty and horrible as ever. Like Manchester, there are many districts you wouldn't park your car in if you want to see it again. It used to have an engineering reputation but New Labour can't do the simplest task without huge over-runs and incopetence.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 05:53:30
Finney,Ross-shire 08/11/2009 05:42:01

"New Labour can't do the simplest task without huge over-runs and incompetence."
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It's not about incompetence.

It's all about Brown Envelopes.

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drunken proffet,

Tassy 08/11/2009 06:05:16
Well if you have moved out, made your money and are back visiting, the last thing you need to see is a vibrant wealthy community. It gives you doubts as why you moved out in the first place. Really there is no place like home. So for your sake, stick to Labour, continuity is the name of the game.
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 08/11/2009 06:15:32
a bully supports the bullies,a liar supports the liars
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 06:20:07
33 It isn't just Man U or Rangers that rip people off. The Celtic shop has a mini hoops range for weans from 0-4. What wean that age decides to follow a football team? It's just brain washing and they are all at it. I, as a Glaswegian, will be lectured by some dude who is part of that rip off game? Aye right, so I bloody will.
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Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 06:22:38
Aye, jist watch this space, says Fergie, an The Peasy will be in the Champions League next season or the wan efter that.

Well, mibbe no. It looks like it will be more likely to be Pollok v Man U in the final.

http://www.petershillfc.co.uk/
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Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 06:24:49
Lord Ferguson of Cessnock will look resplendent in his red and white ermine robes.
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 06:40:34
(#8) – (Labour Lies) –Did Alex Ferguson not manage Scotland for the 1986 World Cup after the death of Jock Stein?

Do you not think that there is a possibility that after the disappointment of the 1986 World Cup and the sudden death of Jock Stein that Alex Ferguson might have been put off of the position of Scotland manager?

Is it not the case that Sir Alex Ferguson received his knighthood for services to football?

Do you not admit that looking at his record in football that it is feasible that he was in line to get a knighthood for services to football?
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 06:52:00
Observer,,Glasgow 08/11/2009 06:20:07
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Of course, they are all at it.

On the subject of Ferguson - He lives in the same fantasy world as Gordon Brown and company.

These Creatures regard themselves so far above everyone else, that they don't think twice about spouting deceit if it benefits themselves.

The biggest tragedy is - A lot of people listen to them.

Some even defend them on these forums.

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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 06:58:07
(#10) – (Castaway) –Is it not true that there are 646 constituencies and not 628 as you have stated?

Out of the 25.5% of the people in Glasgow North-East who have no qualifications how many of them are retired?

Do you have a breakdown of these 25.5% who have no qualifications?
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 07:00:15
#42 Ewan Randall,08/11/2009 06:40:34
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Do you not think that Ferguson with his British "honour" is just part of this whole fraud?

Is it not the case that Ferguson with his British "honour" is just part of this whole fraud?

Do you not admit that Ferguson with his British "honour" is just part of this whole fraud?
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Regards

Ewan II

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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 07:03:51
Sir Alex Ferguson or Elaine C Smith? Hmmmmmmmm Tough one.

Anyway, back to my Braveheart DVD.
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Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 07:05:51
Alex Ferguson has teamed up with Labour with Gordon Broon the manager and Ewan Randall the prolific centre forward who cannae kick a ba but is excellent wi the heid.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 07:07:27
#46 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,08/11/2009 07:03:51

Anyway, back to my Braveheart DVD.
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Try putting it in a DVD player, - and take it out of your mouth!

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Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 07:13:33
Will Mr Ferguson mention the GB football team proposal and potential demise of the Scottish international team in his “personal message” to the electorate?
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 07:23:09
(#45) – (Jo'Burg Jock) – Is it not the case that Sir Sean Connery’s “honour” is British too?

Is Sir Sean Connery part of the fraud you are talking about?

What makes you believe that Sir Alex Ferguson is just part of the fraud you are talking about?

Can you prove that he is part of the fraud you are talking about without also implicating Sir Sean Connery in any way?
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:23:23
Why is anyone paying attention to this? All Ferguson does is organise men in shorts kicking a wee ball about. He's good at that and people like it (bread and circuses, he does the circus bit) but there is no evidence he knows anything about politics or governance whatsoever.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:26:50
50 You are away with the proverbial budgies. Tweet tweet.
49

Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 07:27:00
(#47) – (Fitba Krazy) –Can you prove without a shadow of a doubt that I have teamed up with anyone at all at this time?
50

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 07:27:36
48 Joburg Jock

I wondered where I was going wrong. Got it working now. I think Mel Gibson should become the patron saint of the newly formed isolated republic of Scotland. What do you say?
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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 07:29:38
They can take away our train lines but they will never take our freeduuuuuuum.
52

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:32:40
46 We have James Bond (see 50 it is a source of constant annoyance) so get it right up you, dear.

We also have Robert Carlyle. What a doll he is.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 07:33:23
#45 Ewan Randall,08/11/2009 07:23:09

Hasn't Mr. Connnery spoken about Scotland getting out of this British union?

Didn't the Brits give Mr. Connery the title, grudgingly?

Does that mean that Mr. Connery could not possibly be implicated in this fraud?

Could you ask Mr. Connery?
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Regards

Ewan II

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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:34:50
54 James Bond and Robert Carlyle can job share.
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 07:36:36
(#52) – (Observer) –Does it make you feel better within yourself trying to insult people?

Do you believe that you are big by trying to insult people?

Do you believe that your attempts at insults will have a damaging effect on me?
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Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 07:37:38
#54 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,08/11/2009 07:27:36

That position is reserved for Saint Alex the Righteous.

Patron of the Unfettered, Free and Independent Scotland.

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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:38:14
59 There are more questions than answers.
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Jo'Burg Jock,

08/11/2009 07:42:06
#61 Observer,,Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:38:14

And, Thankfully, only one Ewan.

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Jobless recovery,

08/11/2009 07:45:20
The Glasgow NE by-election is a sickening orgy of socialism in Scotland. From National Socialism (BNP), through mainstream socialistm (LibLabCon), right through to communist socialistm (Solidarity, SSP etc).

UKIP is best out of this socialist freak show.
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LEAL,

08/11/2009 07:47:44
I remember some time ago seeing a published letter signed by a plethora of football people extolling the virtues of the union and castigating the SNP.I wonder how many of the signatories still believe,and will state publicly,that Scots are too stupid to govern themselves.
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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 07:50:20
It seems that a section if Celtic fans are giing to disrupt the minutes silence for remembrance Sunday today.

How distasteful and indeed disgraceful.
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 07:50:48
(#56) – (Observer) –We have Daniel Craig?

Did you know that Daniel Craig is considered to be the first actor to truly embody the original James Bond from Ian Fleming’s novels?

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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 07:57:40
(#57) – (Jo'Burg Jock) –Did Sir Sean Connery take his “British honour” grudgingly?

Could you ask Sir Alex Ferguson if he was implicated?
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 08/11/2009 07:58:43
Could Sir Alex be positioning himself to be the first president of the Scottish socialist republic?
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Soosider,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 07:58:46
How stupid do Labour believe the people of Glasgow North East are that they would be swayed by a football personality.
Real issues are the hypocrisy of Labour criticising the GARL decision but at the same time cutting the existing East Coast line to Glasgow.
I sense that Labour are concerned about the result in GNE given that they have thrown everything at it, rarely has a constituency had more visits by cabinet ministers, 2/3 press releases a day to a friendly and compliant media, blatant lies being left unchallenged by the media, and now we have yet another bogey man in the shape of the BNP. If the BNP do retain their deposit it will largely be due to Labour turning away from the historical supporters and leaving them disillusioned and disengaged.
All in all just the usual lies, deceit, scare and fear tactics
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 08:00:44
(#58) – (Observer) –Would that be the retired James Bond?
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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 08:04:22
I think we should have a poll on what should be the national anthem for an isolated Scotland.

1: Stop Your Tickling Jock.

2: Theres a Moose Loose Aboot This Hoose.

3: Ye Cannae Shove Yer Granny off the Bus.

Its a tough choice.
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Castaway™ ,

08/11/2009 08:04:53
#44: (Ewan Randall) Is it not true that there are 646 constituencies and not 628 as you have stated ?
I quoted the Scotsman (see below) without checking there are 646 constituencies.
Does this mean that Glasgow North-East lies a lowly 633 out of the
646 constituencies ?

Q:Out of the 25.5% of the people in Glasgow North-East who have no qualifications how many of them are retired ?
A: More than a quarter of working-age residents without any form of qualification.

Again I quoted the Scotsman as below without checking.

From the Scotsman 19 October 2009
With more than a quarter of working-age residents without any form of qualification, the constituency (Glasgow North East) lies a lowly 615th out of 628 Westminster constituencies.http://tinyurl.com/yhdb7u5

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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 08:08:11
66 Tut tut and dearie me. Daniel Craig is a parvenu charlatan.

I am not actually posting in a serious frame of mind.

However

65 I don't know why you felt the need to inrtroduce that to be honest. Anyone who does not recognise what remembrance is about is a complete moron and their actions, if they act, will speak for themselves, and will draw down the condemnation of all decent people.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 08:09:14
71 You have missed out the Proclaimers. I want them to sing in the new Scotland.
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Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 08:10:25
#71 Rufus

What is the plural of Rufus?

A creep of Rufi?
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Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 08:24:09
No doubt his leaflet will gain the support of all the knights and millionaires in the constituency.
This from the man who left Aberdeen at the top of Scottish football and went to off to Manchester.
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Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 08:27:51
76 Auld Twa

Perhaps the only millionaire would be Lord Martin of Bishopbriggs, but of course he does not live in the constituency.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 08:29:18
71 It's you cannae shove yer granny aff a bus Rufus.

You are dead posh to be working in a call centre pet.
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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 08:31:24
76 How dare Sir Alex leave that small provincial club Aberdeen to move to one of the most successful and best known football clubs in the world.

In an independent isolated Scotland Sir Alex would have been turned back at the border and forced to stay in Aberdeen
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James the Pie,

08/11/2009 08:32:36
I see the banks are showing the Comrades no sympathy even after pouring billions of our money into them!!

After bankrupting the country they have even managed to bankrupt themselves.

Aye, prudence indeed!!!

From The Sunday Times,

"LABOUR is facing an election crisis after being banned from spending extra money on campaigning. The party has been forced to make drastic cutbacks after expected donations failed to materialise.

It is under strict orders from its banks not to increase spending, despite the looming general election.

Labour MPs defending marginal seats complain they have been “fobbed off” with “DIY tool kits” to make their own campaigning materials and have received no other support from party headquarters because of the cash crisis.
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Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 08:33:36
78 Observer, you speaking from experience?
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Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 08:35:57
No I am not a granny yet the wean is only 17 we are going to defy the sterotype and wait until I am a grannyish age.

But I can speak weegie.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 08:42:34
As the delightful Harry Hill would say, there's only one wsy to decide who's the winner between Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Sean Connery in the battle of The Plastic Jocks. FIGHT!!!
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Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 08:45:22
(#72) – (Castaway) –How do you know that they are still not at 628?

What is the percentage of those living in Scotland that have no qualifications?

What is the range in percentages of those living in Scotland that have no qualifications?

What is the percentage of those living in the UK that have no qualifications?

What is the range in percentages of those living in the UK that have no qualifications?

From the figures for those who do not have qualifications in Glasgow North-East how much consists of those who consider themselves to be housewives or househusbands?

Out of the figures for Scotland how much consists of those who consider themselves to be housewives or househusbands?

Out of the figures for the UK how much consists of those who consider themselves to be housewives or househusbands?
81

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 08:46:59
84 Ewan Randall

How many readers of this forum think that you ever post anything of interest?
82

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 08:49:11
"Ferguson said he was supporting Bain as a local candidate. "Glasgow is my home city and every time I come back, I see the changes for the better since 1972".Utter garbage by labour stooge Ferguson.
This is not fantasy football, more like fantasy politics from a multi millioraie who has lived in England for about THE LAST 30 years stickin his nose in what does not concern him.
This shows the desperation of the labour party.
Has big mouth Ferguson everset foot in the NE glasgow since 1972. NO HE HASNT.
83

Andrah,

Embrugh 08/11/2009 08:49:52
Apparently a packet of Sir Alex's trade-mark chewing gum will be stuck to each letter as a wee gift.
84

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 08:53:20
83 Tsk Tsk Draco encouraging violence? Tut tut.

There is only one of the two expats you refer to who has shown a serious interest in politics.

And it isn't the bloke who organises men in shorts.
85

Ewan Randall,

08/11/2009 08:54:29
(#85) – (Dùn Èideann Bully Wee) –What makes you believe that it matters to me?
86

TWC,

exLabour 08/11/2009 08:54:47
85 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

Now there's a question!
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08/11/2009 08:55:45
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Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 08:59:56
Fergusons personal message will be joining the rest of Bains lying smearing bumf in this election, in the bin.
89

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:00:10
91 I genuinely doubt that. I think Ferguson is remembering old Labour. And in that I can't and won't criticise him. But he is a sell out merchant to anything that old Labour ever stood for so I will pay as much attention to his opinions as I would do my dug.
90

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 09:02:00
#88

Morning Observer. It's so depressing that the politicians are probably right when they think that voters will be swayed by the 'thoughts' of either a multi-millionaire long time resident of leafy Cheshire and a multi-millionaire long time resident of the Bahamas.
91

NayLabour2,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:03:12
I really dont care which celeb ANY party rolls out. The people of Glasgow North East will make up thier own mind! I do think labour are stuck in the mindset of 'mention fitba' and the punters will understand and, therefore, vote for you. Its actually a gross insult to people of this city when the Labour Party has been given thier loyalty for so many years - Do they really still think we are so thick that we will make our decision based on that approach?
What can a football manager (not even a manager of a Scottish team)tell me about Scottish politics? Why would/should i listen to anything he has to say? I want the Labour party to explain WHY the people of Glasgow North East should vote for them (no, not why they should not vote for another party), given thier track record. I want them to explian WHY this area is in such a dire state given the support this party has been given be the people over so many years, and i want them to act like an effective OPPOSITION in government. I absolutly cring when i see thier constant negative approach. People in Glasgow are really quite intelligent - please, please treat us as such!
92

mr broon,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 09:04:50
"Glasgow North-East is a failed constituency?

It has amongst the worst rates of unemployment in Scotland. Young, unemployed constituents lack basic skills, or any form of training. The general health of the population of GNE is widely affected by alcohol and smoking related diseases. The male and female life expectancy rates are abysmal.

In every respect, the people of GNE have a complete lack of self-reliance because they are totally dependent on the State."

(Source: The Independent)
93

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:06:49
94 It's sadder than that. I work in North Glasgow and my experience so far is that the only ones who will come out to vote are those who are fundamentalists basically. The majority don't care they don't see politics as having anything to do with them. That's an indictment that all parties share.
94

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 09:10:17
The people of Glasgow north east aren’t stupid they can see the reliability of someone who can put together a decent team and Alex F. can while Alex S. comes a poor second. Come to mention it Alex S. only comes second because there’s two in my comparison.
95

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:12:33
98 So you see governing a country as akin to kicking a wee ball about then? You'll be a Labour supporter then.
96

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 09:13:19
Here is another story SoS seems to have missed!

From The Observer,

"Gordon Brown stands accused today of misleading the public over his much-vaunted plans to help young people through the recession. Leaked documents show the government is planning drastic cuts for its flagship plan to train a new generation of apprentices.

Confidential papers obtained by The Observer show that, while Brown and his ministers have suggested they are raising investment in training, skills and apprenticeships, behind the scenes they are preparing some £350m of cuts for 2010-11 that will slash the number of training places on offer by hundreds of thousands.

Last night business groups, unions and opposition parties accused the government of duping young people – and businesses that train them in return for state help with funding – into believing it is investing more during the downturn, when the reverse is the case."
97

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 09:13:50
#97

Thanks Observer. It's a sad enough day without that thought being true.
98

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 09:17:58
97 Observer

Labourite press people and their Hootsmon propagandists seem to think that Langside College is in the Glasgow North East constituency.

Perhaps Grahamski was Brown’s chauffeur and pointed the affluence of Newlands as evidence of the area’s prosperity?
99

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:18:10
101 Well if people choose not to participate and be conned by the bread and circuses then that is up to them.

But you are right to acknowledge what day it is, I am sad that the paper doesn't.
100

TWC,

exLabour 08/11/2009 09:18:25
Unlikely that the Nats can win this seat but I hope they do because If there is anywhere that has clearly been neglected it is Glasgow.

We should harness all the opil money and invest it all in re-establishing our Manufacturing base.

We should be able to see the results of Oil spending and we can't.
Good luck Glasgow NE and you Nay Labour.
101

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 09:22:57
Yet another story missed by the SoS!!

From the Mail on Sunday,

"A senior Labour MP made sexually provocative comments to Tory Nadine Dorries, after saying he had dreamt about her the previous night, it has been alleged.

Ms Dorries claimed last week that an unnamed Scottish Labour MP had approached her in the Commons and made ‘disgusting’ comments to her.

And last night sources close to the Conservative MP said the remarks were made by former trade union official Jim Devine, 56, MP for Livingstone in Scotland. Last night Mr Devine denied the allegations."

http://tinyurl.com/yarcbtq


102

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:26:02
102 Yeah was that the thing about Murphy? Because I thought he went to Cardonald College. And Brown used to be a lecturer at the Tech, you would have thought he would have mentioned that. Most peculiar. But I suppose with the ''local man'' actually being employed in a higher education facility in London they will want to skim over the finer details.
103

KampungHighlander,

08/11/2009 09:27:29
#87 Andrah

"Apparently a packet of Sir Alex's trade-mark chewing gum will be stuck to each letter as a wee gift."

Aye, pre chewed by the Big Man himself.
104

LEAL,

08/11/2009 09:30:49
71 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot.
Youre definately a creepy Brit anyway.You obviously think the Scots are too stupid to do anything themselves.I tend to disagree.I have confidence in the Scottish people to run their own country and pick a National Anthem.Other similair but less well resourced countries manage just fine.
105

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 09:30:59
Observer
#97
What a sad con you are trying to perpetrate here. Had there been any relevance to Glasgow north east you would of said north east instead of simply north.
106

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:32:12
105 Well I think Nadine Norries needs to put up or shut up. What she has done is cast aspersions on all male Labour MP's and gave a gossips charter. If she is going to make allegations of sexual harrassment then she needs to be specific. Other than that she will be doing an Ulrika and perhaps ruining a man's reputation who might not have done anything.
107

lulach mac gille coemgain,

08/11/2009 09:33:02
Yet another of Labours millionaire co-horts rolled out and pretending to know about the dole and the man in the street.

Howz the racehorses and stables Alex? - why no’ move them to parkheid - there’s plenty of kids would love a job workin’ wi’ them.
108

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/11/2009 09:33:26
#105 Jimmy

"A senior Labour MP made sexually provocative comments to Tory Nadine Dorries, after saying he had dreamt about her the previous night, it has been alleged.

Ms Dorries claimed last week that an unnamed Scottish Labour MP had approached her in the Commons and made ‘disgusting’ comments to her.

And last night sources close to the Conservative MP said the remarks were made by former trade union official Jim Devine, 56, MP for Livingstone in Scotland. Last night Mr Devine denied the allegations."

I guess after the expenses fiasco they can no longer afford the professional ladies to help them celebrate remembrance day, like Nigel Griffiths last year.
109

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:34:24
109 I work in North Glasgow. Not exclusively the East. Which is why I said I worked in North Glasgow. D'oh.
110

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/11/2009 09:37:04
#71 Creepy

"In June 2006 the Royal Scottish National Orchestra conducted an online poll on their website, asking visitors to choose a favourite to be Scotland's national anthem. With over 10,000 votes cast, "Flower of Scotland" came first with 41% of the votes, followed by "Scotland the Brave" with 29%."

Sorry mate none of your suggestions got a single vote.
111

Greatscot....,

London 08/11/2009 09:39:40
The problem is that Labour's traditional East End Catholic voters are upset by Labour's continued support for abortion and are turning away to other parties. So what's Labour's answer? Present them with another abortion - Ferguson.

Glasgow does indeed need another party. But neither the socialist Labour or national-socialist SNP are capable of doing anything but keep the city mired in poverty.
112

Publius,

Girvan 08/11/2009 09:42:05
A by-election to the UK Parliament brought about the forced resignation of incompetent self-seeking Labour speaker and all Labour can do is circulate a letter from a celebrity.
The UK issues are an unwinnable war at the other side of the world and near-bankruptcy. Let's hope the voters of GNE focus on these and send an appropriate message to Brown and his government.
113

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/11/2009 09:42:21
When asked about Ms Dorries allegations of sexual harrassment Mr Devine Said:

"It wasn't me. I was helping an Irish Carpenter friend rewire some shelves in my local pub."
114

Alice Cooper,

08/11/2009 09:42:26
want to see the result of 75 years of labour mps being always voted in ,in glasgow ,watch this
they may be glaswegians ,but they are human beings and deserve better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kls37DqxjG8&feature=fvw
115

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 09:43:25
And the prize for the most bad taste comment on the thread so far (up against stiff competition) goes to - #115.
116

lulach mac gille coemgain,

08/11/2009 09:46:29
check this oot from over at the red road artivcleby eddie barnes - apparently he thinks Nick Griffin is the chairman of the SNP

But is anybody listening to the big parties? In Springburn high street, Tommy Sheridan's socialists mixed alongside the small number of BNP activists surrounding candidate Charlie Baillie. "If we keep our deposit, it will be a success," said one BNP member. A greater worry for the main parties is that the BNP could come third, ahead of the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats. Both the impact of SNP chairman Nick Griffin's TV appearance on Question Time, and the lingering resentment over the housing of asylum seekers locally could pull their vote above five per cent for the first time in Scotland.
117

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 09:48:55
I am no fan of Jim Devine, indeed I think he is a rather odious character.

However, I do not think that that he could reasonably described as a “senior Scottish MP”, as he is a best a bit-part player, a standard Labourite monkey voting fodder with a red rosette.

In any case, he is (currently) the MP for Livingston, and not “Livingstone”, wherever that is.
118

Astarte,

Giffnock 08/11/2009 09:54:40
Regardless of how one may view the Labour Party's performance of late, marketing a celebrity sportsman as a catalyst for their cause is not without merit. The mainstay of political rhetoric is the affectation it offers to a disillusioned constituency and the effect that it may have in cementing the obvious, and the obvious is to garner a seat at the table of power and for better or worse, only Labour can provide stable government in these times.A sad commentary on the state of things I know, but nevertheless a reality.
119

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 09:59:01
Observer
#99
Working together and moving forward as a team. Putting together a strategy to overcome obstacles in trying to move forward to your goal.
I’ve been a Labour voter correct and when the next elections come around I might do again, who knows. I’m not so narrow-minded as to decide for definite until the time. What I do know this early is my mind is yet to be addled enough to lower my standards in the direction of the snp.
120

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 10:00:42
I hope New Labour Sleaze and corruption are playing on their Dear Leader, Comrade Broon's strengths,

"The man who saved the world financial system??
The man who abolished boom and bust??
The man who sold the gold stocks at the bottom of the market??
The man who raided the pension funds??
The man who has bankrupted the UK to the tune of £200 Trillion??
The man who sent troops to die without adequate supplies??
The man who promised an EU referendum??
The man who couldn't be bothered attending 1 coffin homecoming at Wooten Bassett or Brize Norton??
The man who widened the gap between rich and poor??
The man who presided over the worst sleaze scandals in living memory??
The man who prefers the X Factor to Come Dancing??

Some record!!!!!
121

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:04:36
121 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,08/11/2009 09:48:55
In any case, he is (currently) the MP for Livingston, and not “Livingstone”, wherever that is.
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Well worth bringing that typo to our attention.

Luckily you never make any mistakes.
122

lulach mac gille coemgain,

08/11/2009 10:04:58
#124 No forgetting the best Goal by England and that wee Newcastle greetin bloke ?
123

brownlie,

08/11/2009 10:05:29
I see that Eddie Barnes, in another article, apart from naming Nick Griffin as the SNP Chairman, refers to a voter making a political point to Bain as "attempting to disrupt a photo call". I would have thought that answering such a point was more important than having your photograph taken.

It would appear that Labour fear the result to be closer than they admit when they are wheeling out a millionaire football manager in an attempt to bolster their support. In Glasgow North East, it is questionable as to whether this will be to their advantage.
124

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:06:17
14/10/2009 15:48:13
255 Justin Timbercake, (Rufus)

You obviously have no idea to whom you are speaking.
As far as the English cup final is concerned, being a Company with some interest in the media, we are equipped with terrestrial, freeview, Skye and cable television.

Anything else you would like to know, just ask.
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Skye TV.

Imagine adding that extra 'e' on the end.

A bit like Livingston(e).

Tee Hee
125

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 10:07:20
#122 Astarte,Giffnock 08/11/2009 09:54:40

Says:-
"only Labour can provide stable government in these times."
______________________________________________________


Have you just come out of a coma?

126

TWC,

exLabour 08/11/2009 10:08:13
123 DeanConinPeteFSteed

I don't know what Labour policies are for Scotland, and willie Bain doesn't agree wi' the UK Labour Policies.
We've no had a SLAB sinxce Wendy went(was Pushed) and John Smith was down south.
127

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:08:16
Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,
14/10/2009 15:48:13
You obviously have no idea to whom you are speaking.

As far as the English cup final is concerned, being a Company with some interest in the media, we are equipped with terrestrial, freeview, Skye and cable television.

Anything else you would like to know, just ask.
--------------------------------------------------

OOOPPSS missed your name off...................

Skye TV.

Imagine adding that extra 'e' on the end.

A bit like Livingston(e).

Tee Hee
128

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 10:08:41
Observer
#113
D’oh has nothing to do with it; people trying to hide their intentions do such things. Even now you could mean you drive through a corner of it.
129

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 10:11:34
#125 Rufus

Have you worked out that “a section” is singular yet and not plural?

I did drop a hint earlier.

A section “is”, and not a section “are”.

Here to help.
130

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:11:51
102 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,08/11/2009 09:17:58
Perhaps Grahamski was Brown’s chauffeur and pointed the affluence of Newlands as evidence of the area’s prosperity?
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Nice attempt at English.
131

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 10:12:09
TWC
#130
I don’t know what the snp are saying they will do with Glasgow north east.
132

lulach mac gille coemgain,

08/11/2009 10:12:10
#131 are you as creepy as Jim Murphy ? Post a pic - go on !
133

TWC,

exLabour 08/11/2009 10:12:34
Everything about NuLabour is a facade and Sir Eck is just another place to hide from a critique of their lack of Scottish Policies.
134

brownlie,

08/11/2009 10:12:50
125 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot

Rufus, one of the names in your new moniker is extremely appropriate and it's not the first and last.
135

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 10:14:12
#131 Rufus

Obviously understanding irony is not your strong point.
136

Jo'Burg Jock,

08/11/2009 10:14:53
#132 DeanConinPeteFSteed,08/11/2009 10:08:41

If you have a problem with comprehension, you should keep it to yourself.
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137

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:17:24
133 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,08/11/2009 10:11:34
#125 Rufus

Have you worked out that “a section” is singular yet and not plural?

I did drop a hint earlier.

A section “is”, and not a section “are”.

Here to help.
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I cannot be sure if Rufus said 'section are'.

But I certainly never.

Can you point to the post where I said 'section are'?

You say you are here to help but I am wondering if your hallucinations may be hindering you from doing so.
138

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:21:17
139 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,08/11/2009 10:14:12
Obviously understanding irony is not your strong point.
----------------------------------------------------

I understand irony only too well.

I also understand idiotic mistakes of the type you frequently make.
139

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 10:24:24
141 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot

65 Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,
08/11/2009 07:50:20

It seems that a section if(sic) Celtic fans are (sic) giing(sic) to disrupt the minutes silence for remembrance Sunday today.

How distasteful and indeed disgraceful


Here to help!
140

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:26:28
136 lulach mac gille coemgain,08/11/2009 10:12:10
#131 are you as creepy as Jim Murphy ? Post a pic - go on !
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Well you did ask....thats me on the left.

http://tinyurl.com/yc8t3t2

141

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:28:05
143 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,08/11/2009 10:24:24

That does not say 'section are'.

Raise your game.
142

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 10:28:33
Has anyone heard when the much anticipated legal action by Comrade Devine against Comrade Broon and his decision to remove him from the Sleaze Party's trough??

I understand Comrade Devine's lawyer is "frothing at the mouth in anticipation of the trial of the century!!!"

I must say it should make good entertainment!!!

Will the shelves and wiring be called as witnesses??
143

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

08/11/2009 10:30:22
Bully Wee Man,

Remind me again, who is Dick Chaney?
144

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 10:35:31

Aberdeenshire Creepy Scot,

I'm sorry to hear you have been sectioned.

At least you still have internet access, which should aid your recovery.

It will be worth it in the long run!!
145

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 10:39:59
#138 brownlie and #136 lulach mac gille coemgain

I think I just caught a glimpse of him on the Disney Channel...He is the wee creepy guy who's dad owns the beach bar in Hannah Montana.
146

Mèths,

08/11/2009 10:43:57
Morning all.

Last week when Bertie Ahern supported Scottish independence, I stated I wouldn't be making any comments about it. Why not? I reckon it would be two-faced if I congratulated his stance then came back moaning if someone else with nothing to do with Scotland supported the opposite.

Fair enough?
147

brownlie,

08/11/2009 10:45:50
137 TWC

Sir Alex has, clearly, a poor, or non-existent, grasp of politics. He claims "A Labour candidate is required to stop the the city "being ripped of by the SNP Government". He then goes on to say "I know the value of having someone able to stop the city being ripped off".

He is obviously unaware of who was, actually, ripping the area off whilst being their MP but is he totally unaware that this is an election for Westminster and that electing a Labour candidate will have no effect, whatsoever, on the actions of the SNP government?
148

brownlie,

08/11/2009 10:48:46
146 James the Pie

They'll be the material witnesses?
149

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 10:49:09
#146 James the Pie

What about the Irish electrician who has gone "up North" and is rumoured to have died?
150

SECESSION NOW,

08/11/2009 10:49:27
#146. Aye new Labour the party of sleaze and smear, sleazy Devine has other things on his mind apart from his lack of shelves?

http://tinyurl.com/yarcbtq

"Ms Dorries claimed last week that an unnamed Scottish Labour MP had approached her in the Commons and made ‘disgusting’ comments to her.

And last night sources close to the Conservative MP said the remarks were made by former trade union official Jim Devine, 56, MP for Livingstone in Scotland. Last night Mr Devine denied the allegations."



New Labour fat oily, greedy and sleazy, and would gie a pig the dry boak.
151

James the Pie,

08/11/2009 10:54:43
#153 Col,

Comrade Broon, the man who can perform miracles will surely bring him back from the dead, for the trial.

If only it could be televised!!!
152

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 11:03:11
#151 brownlie - "He is obviously unaware of who was, actually, ripping the area off whilst being their MP"


He is however aware of who was ripping off Manchester United, by employing his son as an additional intermediary agent during Transfer negotiations.
153

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 11:04:28
Would political dunder heid mega mouth super rich Fergie care to expand on his labour propaganda quote (from his luxury Cheshire mansion no doubt) on how Glasgow is being ripped off.
Lets start with the east coast rail link to Glasgow being scrapped.
Thought not.

154

lulach mac gille coemgain,

08/11/2009 11:06:52
#144 Hmm that’s a toughie

Now is that a MacComb, a Greenock or a Forsyth Tartan ? You’ve got me on that one !

But it’s good to see you come in allegiance to fight for Scotland no matter what the cause frae the way you lace yer brogues. Man that’s Grande.
155

Robert Mason,

Larkhall 08/11/2009 11:22:24
68

A good call WUM. The first president of the Scottish republic will be an avowed socialist and Alex Ferguson fits the bill.
156

Robert Mason,

Larkhall 08/11/2009 11:23:40
157

Then let us ask him about the abandonment of the Glasgow airport link.
157

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 11:29:19
#160 Robert Mason,

Let us ask him if he has ever used the rail link to Manchester Airport.

158

Mèths,

08/11/2009 11:29:21
"Then let us ask him about the abandonment of the Glasgow airport link."

...'cos the Holyrood opposition voted for the vanity trams and left less money in the pot?
159

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 11:32:24
#160

Better still, why not ask him which rail stations in Glasgow NE would have linked to the Glasgow Central to Airport line.
160

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 12:01:21
Jo’Burg Jock
#140
Picture a gelid twenty four hours in the domain of the light bearer. Then you’ll catch me out in this way.
161

jdships,

Edinburgh 08/11/2009 12:04:14
Sir Alex a " Champagne Socialist " and a non eventer - yuch !!
162

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 12:13:45
160
Robert Mason.
Lets ask him about the £500 million in cuts to the
Scottish gvmts budget by his beloved sleaze ridden london labour party.
163

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 12:19:36
I dont really think the multi millionaire manager of an English football club parroting Labour propaganda will have any influence on the out come of Glasgow EN election.
Beware the LABOUR postal vote scam.
164

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 12:22:19
#164 DeanConinPeteFSteed,08/11/2009 12:01:21
______________________________________________________

So! you do not have a problem with comprehension.

You have a problem with reality!!

165

morris,

edinburgh 08/11/2009 12:39:54
Perhaps Sir Alex should be the Labour candidate in SALFORD ?
(For the uninitiated Old Trafford is in the burgh of Salford )
Not only would he be one of their few candidates with any defence, theres a good chance he would win !
Surely COME ON YOU REDS is a slogan which cant fail there, and Salford is what every Labour council aspires to be after all.
Just look what they have done for GLASGOW !

166

govanite,

glasgow 08/11/2009 12:42:04
A multi-millionaire who left Glasgow over 30 years ago knows what's good for the people of North East Glasgow ?
Unless he counts decades of labour failure in Govan as a motivational factor in self-improvement, I cannot think what he is on about.

Stick to footbal Sir Alex, you are good at that for sure.
167

Alfie Bett,

08/11/2009 12:56:51
Elderly Govan born english resident of 23 years a multi-millionaire and sometime racehorse owner with fingers in many pies urges the predominantly working and underclass residents of GNE to vote for the labour party.The previous labour incumbent of this constituency who is equally proud of his working class roots and who retired through ermm pressure of work has graciously accepted a seat in the house of Lords so that he can join other calloused handed scions of the working class like Foulkes,Falconer etc in their tireless efforts to look after their own best interests
168

Sumlogic,

08/11/2009 12:57:26

It’s a sad indictment of general intelligence levels if people vote based on some ridiculous football allegiance.

Who gives a flying F*&K what Sir Ferguson thinks, does he live in Glasgow? Does he share the issues and problems that the people of Glasgow and Scotland face on a day to day basis, no doubt worsened by Labores incredible mismanagement of the economy, during the good years of high tax intake, bearing in mind they also managed to ‘borrow massively’ at the same time!

If you pose a simple question: Vote Labore or SNP, based on experience of the two, I reckon voting Labore would rate higher on a risk scale, based on their lies, deceit, incompetence and debt, not to forget stealth taxes, increased council tax, prescription tax, doubling the rate of tax on the poorest by ending the 10p band and many, many more...

And for those who will assert the myth that SNP have failed to deliver on their manifesto, bear in mind that as of today SNP have delivered 63 of their 94 headline manifesto commitments, in spite of (Browns) financial turmoil, worst funding settlement since devolution and horse trading as part of being ‘a minority government’ (i.e. having to fork out half a billion for Trams).

The unionist driven media do not wish this type of information disseminated, they desire to focus on a ‘few commitments’, ones for instance that have been dropped due to a lack of support from the other parties, so they can headline them, muddy the water and ‘spin’ a lack of support from opposition MSP’s into a promise break by SNP!

Vote Labore and you need your head examined, unless your happen to be a banker, in which case, absolutely, but you can sail off in your yacht to some tax haven leaving the ‘mugs’ who voted with you behind to pay for the mess!
169

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/11/2009 13:01:58
Ferguson on Glasgow

"It's a world away from when I was a young apprentice. "

I wonder how he will feel when Labour announces the 350 Million Pound cuts to apprenticeship programs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/08/labour-spending-cuts-training-young
170

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 08/11/2009 13:02:07
Doesn't my opinion much of footballing grandees with not much else to do. I'll really bet he supports Labour what with its endemic corruption and full of seekers after undeserved power and privilege - a bit like the world of football - and of course the last incumbent in Glasgow NE. If he could see improvements in Govan since 1997 I'd hate to think what it was like then.
171

morris,

edinburgh 08/11/2009 13:04:55
171 You have got it in one Alfie!
Glasgow East were not fooled by Labour and neither will Glasgow North East be.
Vote Labour. Our party is finished /washed up,the country is bankrupt,and we lied to Scotland for the last fifty years at least.

The previous incumbent was incometent or was he just bent,and is now sitting in the House of Lords claiming expenses again.
Even Labour strongholds like Glasgow East have seen the light! Surely North East must follow suit.
Of course we could see a repeat of Glenrothes and the increased suspect postal vote is already KNOWN to have appeared from nowhere.EVERY SINGLE POSTAL VOTE SHOULD BE VERIFIED as being that of someone who genuinely existed and lived at the address shown on the qualification date,and if the registers disappear again SOMEONE GOES TO JAIL !
172

Ggordon,

08/11/2009 13:05:26
'Glasgow doesnt get its full share' according to Ferguson. LOL

Scotland doesn't get it's fair because of second/holiday home owner's, (like him) support for the Labour Party. The corrupt Unionist Party who have betrayed Scotland for the last thirty years.

Betrayed Scotland to the tune of approx 5 Billion a year = 150 Billion Scotland has lost.

Ferguson betrays Scotland. Just another trougher.
Champagne Socialist
173

Ggordon,

08/11/2009 13:07:53

Ferguson, manager of bankrupt Football Club

Brown unelected PM of bankrupt Labour Party.

Bankrupt Britain
174

Sumlogic,

08/11/2009 13:12:18

The sad thing 'IS', many will actually vote based on nonsense like that, non-thinking such as:

"Oh he's famous, seems like a good football manager, must know what he’s talking about, and saves me trying to THINK (for once), I'll accept what he says"

Similar story with the ‘orange order’ nonsense, more non-thinking drivel

But can you see a pattern developing here, 'voting Labore and non-thinking'
175

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 13:18:08
109, DeanConinPeteFSteead,

Not that you aren't a bit of a con merchant yourself, eh Mr Steed.

Next you'll be telling us the Empire of Scotland was wance run bi a Roman guy called Fergie Mac Fergusius who stashed his stuff on Ben Hee and had a holiday home in Ullapool given to him for £1 by Glasgow Cooncil.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Interview-David-Booth-the-.5796639.jp
176

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 13:22:13
162 Meths,

Who needs an airport link by train when we have plenty of hot-air balloons?

Some of whom are here today.

Hoya dooin Ewan and Conin?
177

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 13:26:16
Fergusons house was valued at £2million last year.

http://tinyurl.com/yax4pa2
178

Conrad Barabbas Deacon III The Lycanthrope,

Upper Bow 08/11/2009 13:35:45



"AHM VEWY VEWY PWOUD TIBISPORTN THELABUR VEWI VEWI PWOUD.

VE BOY CAMWENZ NO FURSTEEM PLAYER BOYZ NO FURSTEEM PLAYER

VEWI PWOUD SO AH AM VEWI VEWI PWOUD

MA BEVVIED FACE AW OVER RA GLESCA BYRAWAY"
179

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 13:53:39
75
morris,edinburgh.
Every single postal vote should be verified.Too right.
The very thought of this happening would have Bain shaking in his boots.
Bringing in the UN to look after the electoral register would also be a good idea.
180

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 13:54:51
Jo’Burg Jock
#168
Yes it’s called uncertainty.
181

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 14:07:05
150 Well there is a bit of a difference Meths regards the two gentlemen in question. One formerly ran a country, and one organises men in shorts kicking a wee ball about. I know who's opinion on political matters I am minded to take more seriously.
182

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 14:14:48
#184 DeanConinPeteFSteed,08/11/2009 13:54:51

"Yes it’s called uncertainty."
____________________________________________________

Now, let's not rush this.

You are trying to say that you have a problem comprehending reality?

183

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 14:16:08
186 The evidence so far would suggest he does.
184

GMCD,

08/11/2009 14:46:26
The tricks these labourites wil pull, eh?
Using a celebrity to back their cause! You wouldn't see the SNP do that!

Actually is there a SNP candidate in the by-election cos I've not heard much from the SNP?

From the SNPite's on this MB it looks as though they don't have much time for succesful Scots or anyone who dares disgaree with their rose-coloured vision of Scotland under the SNP....
185

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/11/2009 14:48:16
''From the SNPite's on this MB it looks as though they don't have much time for succesful Scots''

Correct that's why we never mention Sean Connery or indeed Robert Carlyle:-)
186

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 15:07:50
Or Alex Salmond.
187

Jings MacCrivvens,

08/11/2009 15:16:56
Ferguson has never expressed ANY concern for the folks of Glasgow North in the past, despite the fact that the poor state of the constituency is ENTIRELY due to 70+ years of LABOUR neglect.

Odd that!

188

westview,

Greater Glasgow 08/11/2009 15:18:18
*160*Just so you know ,Glasgow Airport HAS a rail link. The Glasgow /Prestwick Airport should be supported more and have the cash spent on it. The planes flying from there go over the sea . Thus making life quiter and safer for the folk in Glasgow and surrounding areas. The GARL link may suit the men in suits because the Renfrewshire /Glasgow Airport is almost in the city centre. But most airports are sensibly sited further out from urban areas.
189

Jings MacCrivvens,

08/11/2009 15:24:19
Doubtless Ferguson will be given a peerage for his support to Labour in its hour of need. Well it'll save him going through Labour's usual procedure of having to buy it.
190

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 15:25:13
#188 GMCD,08/11/2009 14:46:26

Says:-
"From the SNPite's on this MB it looks as though they don't have much time for succesful Scots"
______________________________________________________

Quite the contrary. Some "successful Scots" don't have much time for their own countrymen anymore, now that they have "made it".

A little concern for the hundreds of thousands unemployed with no prospect of ever getting a job would be appreciated.

A little concern for the young people with no future would be appreciated.

A little concern for the future of Scotland would be appreciated.

To advocate more of the same and display a desire for Scotland to remain under the depressing, malicious, mendacious, self serving Labour Party in itself declares that Ferguson has no time and does not care for the country of his birth.

191

Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 08/11/2009 15:29:09
I think Ferguson is being disingenuous.

Surely if Labour have been ripping off Glasgow for seventy odd years it should be some other party's turn?
192

puskas,

East kilbride 08/11/2009 15:46:21
Well no matter what any of us think Alex ferguson would make a damn well good Labour Politition..




Some of us with good memories will remember St Mirren's fall out with the great man.... Oh! yes.

Embezzlement against this small football club.

Luckily for Ferguson and his false expense ( St Mirren ) claims Aberdeen needed a new manager...

Luck again Ferguson inherited Billy McNeil's built team when Billy answered the call of Celtic..

Alex Ferguson's court appearance was abandoned when Aberdeen offered this wretched lord another management post...

Yes he certainly would have made a first class MP . Up their on par with Marshall and Michael..

Icing on the cake was his 5 star display not during the Scttish Cup defeat v Celtic 4-0 Hampden?

Whilst the gentleman, and Celtic great Bobby Murdoch attempted to shake his hand this Lowlife Lord spat on the face of Bobby.

Some may wish to bow to Ferguson, not me..

The Glasgow North East voters should be told that the man who backs Labour in the NE treated a gentleman in this manner.

The Labour Party must be desperate.. Of course wee Bain like most other things probably wouldn't have known ... Well he doesn't know where he lives.. Another lie.
193

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 08/11/2009 15:47:38
The problem the SNP have is that the average voter in this constituency values Alex fergusons opinion more than any Politician ever born. For them football is a religion.
194

Nelson51,

Newcastle 08/11/2009 15:50:25
Could Sir Alec's decision to support Labour have something to do with earning a lot more in the English football league than he ever could in Scottish football ?. The men who betrayed William Wallace did it for the money.
195

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 16:32:09
No-one trying for a double century?
196

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 16:39:28
Fitba Krazy
#179
I must tell you right away I dislike your abuse. Can’t you find something else to occupy your time.
197

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 16:39:45
197.
I think your wrong, only labour value the opinion of Cheshire based Ferguson.
London based Bain like the media are scrapping the bottom barrel as per.
198

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 16:41:23
179.
Good post.
199

Mèths,

08/11/2009 16:43:12
Observer

I take your point, but it bores the pants off me when parties trot out their "famous" supporters. It doesn't matter if they're pop stars, actors, "celebs" or politicians from another country. It's like a peeing contest.

"My star's bigger than YOUR star."
200

New Danielrober,

08/11/2009 16:51:31
Alex Ferguson has been an ambassador for Glasgow and Scotland for decades. Incidentally he has, as far as I know never declared tax exile. Instead he stuck it out with the rest of us.

A well earned Knighthood.
201

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 17:00:55
New Danielrober,08/11/2009 16:51:31

Says:-
"Alex Ferguson has been an ambassador for Glasgow and Scotland for decades. Incidentally he has, as far as I know never declared tax exile"
_______________________________________________________

You've been at the Sheep Dip again.

Are you saying that a Scotsman can move to England and declare himself a "Tax Exile"? -- What the hell does that mean?

What in the name of all that is sane, are you on about???

202

Baggy Troosers,

08/11/2009 17:02:08
I see that the Scottish goverment has just announced a Brand Span*king new state of the art Hospital for Govan, Fergie's part of Glasgow.

Not bad for being "Ripped off".

He should eat his words and appologise to Nichola Sturgeon.
203

Baggy Troosers,

08/11/2009 17:03:29
Span*nking is a no-no word in the Scotsman ,you've got to laugh.
204

Cracker06,

Livingston 08/11/2009 17:05:22
Ferguson betrays Scotland. Just another trougher.
Champagne Socialist

Unlike the SNP's Sean Connery who ran out on the country 1st chance he got and despite now having a SNP government at home chooses to while the way on a golf course somewhere. You may disagree with Ferguson but at least he stayed in the UK and didn't become a 'Professional' Scot like Connery has.
205

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 17:14:02
#208 Cracker06,Livingston 08/11/2009 17:05:22

How do you:-
"while the way on a golf course"?
______________________________________________________

Looked up the R&A rule book.

Can't find it.

206

Donald Mac,

08/11/2009 17:24:51
208 Cracker

That’s a very odd comment.

So, by your reckoning, if you decide to live and earn a living in England that’s good but if you decide to live and earn a living anywhere else that’s bad and you become a professional Scot, whatever that may be.

You’ve swallowed the unionist propaganda hook, line and sinker haven’t you?

I’ve heard it all now
207

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 17:32:03

Donald Mac,08/11/2009 17:24:51

That makes me a "professional Scot".

Well I'm flattered that "Crackpot" doesn't class me as an amateur.

And I'm sure that Mr Connery will be chuffed.

208

Donald Mac,

08/11/2009 17:36:20
212 Jo'Burg Jock

It’s one of the more bizarre statements that a unionist has come out with.

You give your allegiance to England or none at all…
209

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 17:44:46
Ferguson is just repeating Bains stupid comment. "Glasgow is being ripped off".
Ferguson knows nothing about Glasgow NE,hence no detail on how the Cheshire based multi millionaire came to the conclusion on how Glasgow was being ripped off.
Mibee if he had a brain out with kicking a wee baw aboot, he would have elaborated on his silly remark.
When it come to Scottish politics Ferguson is as irrelevant as Elmer Fudd Gray.
210

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/11/2009 18:08:03
Nice to see Chelsea today remind Sir Alex about what he is supposed to be doing.

Your a Good Football Manger but your politics are a load of mince.
211

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:09:24
181 Mc Max ,08/11/2009 13:26:16
Fergusons house was valued at £2million last year.

http://tinyurl.com/yax4pa2
----------------------------------------

How dare he.

Imagine being so rich, famous and successful that you could afford a £2 million house.

He should be forced to live in a mud hut for even attempting to better himself.
212

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 18:10:56
200, DeanConinPeteFSteed,

What abuse? Like this, do you mean?

"6 DeanConinPeteFSteed, 04/11/2009 05:43:42"

"Fitba Krazy
#1
Whereas the picture above is all torc with a great deal of substance you on the other hand are all talk with very little substance. Where do you get this “It just goes to show how wealthy the people of Scotland would now” aberration from?"

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/Amateur-treasure-hunter-strikes-1m.5791904.jp#4579567

Yer no sayin that noo eh?



213

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:15:39
217,
Aye,
Ferguson like Fat disgraced ex speaker Martin are selfseeking hypocrites who like to keep the working class down whilst spouting false concerns of their well being.
Labour really are bottom feeders when it comes to morals.
214

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:18:17
217,
Did you spot the nepotism in at the bottom of the article?
Just wondering if you can see the link on how labour operate.
215

Wisnaeme,

08/11/2009 18:18:31
My, some folk seem to have their priorities.

A celeb lends his name to Noo Labour and 200 plus comments ensue.

Meanwhile in another 'Hootsmon' article concerning the reform or not of Westmidden, as the case may be.

There are only ten comments at the time of writing this.

Aye, some folk have their priorities in order of importance when it comes to 'Hootsmon' McChatterers, right enough.

.

.
216

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:19:31
>219 Mc Max ,08/11/2009 18:15:39
>Ferguson like Fat disgraced ex speaker Martin are >selfseeking hypocrites who like to keep the working >class down

Is that really true?

Do you actually believe that?

Sir Alex Ferguson likes to keep the working class down because he lives in a £2 million house?

Welcome to narrow minded Scotland.

You sound like the kind of person that hates seeing people doing well and would happily drag a nail along the side of a nice car due to pure jealousy.
217

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:20:25
220 Mc Max ,08/11/2009 18:18:17
217,
Did you spot the nepotism in at the bottom of the article?
Just wondering if you can see the link on how labour operate.

Did not look at the article, I just took you at face value.
218

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:22:04
217.
I should have stated corruption and nepotism.
Sorry.
219

Warden Resurrected,

08/11/2009 18:22:16
indy leith
209-It comes very easy to your mind the people of Glasgow North East not being able to make up their own minds unless they are left alone to do so without interference. Alex Salmond who hangs off every word you say will be making arrangements right now to cancel the meeting in the same constituency discussing independence he scheduled to coincide with this election. Oh no the SNP at cross purposes what a calamity. Wait a minute my mistake I took you for someone in a high position, Alex Salmond isn’t going to cancel after making all these arrangements to manipulate. The SNP hasn’t been doing well enough lately to let such opportunities slip through their fingers. Football with the money and stardom gives the ordinary person on the street the sense of being able to follow dreams. People don’t automatically see the same thing in independence. The people know the revenue from oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could. Alex Ferguson is in touch with the people alright he’s in touch with their aspirations.
220

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 18:22:33
217 Ferris Bueller

How many £2 million houses can you indentify in the Springburn area?

Do you know where Glasgow NE actually is?
221

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:24:28
222.223.
Is that it?
Very sad.
Unionist no doubt.
222

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:28:26
226 Dùn Èideann Bully Wee

I can't really 'indentify' anything.
Can you?
223

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:28:32
221
Wisnaeme.
Dont worry if the troughers think this will go unoticed
their in for a shock.
Bide yer time lad.
224

erchie,

up the howe 08/11/2009 18:29:03
never heed bloody fergie.i watched the service at the cenotaph today,and had to turn away at the sight of blair and brown ,i hope the good folks of glasgow NE take a long look at the kind of parasites youv been keeping in power all these years.I never thought id say it but seeing brown makes me "ashamed to be a scot" .And cameron and his crowd can go to hell, they drooled at the prospect of another war.So fergie keep your opinions to yourself the only party ripping glasgow off is labour
225

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:30:17

222
Sir Alex Ferguson likes to keep the working class down because he lives in a £2 million house?
Does he really.
News to me.
226

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 18:33:03
228 Ferris Bueller

“ I can't really 'indentify' anything.”

That is already apparent
227

Patrick O'Reilly,

Coatbridge 08/11/2009 18:34:08
Truly shocking behaviour today from the Celtic supporters at Falkirk. The SPL and SFA must sort out the scumbags.
228

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:35:05
230.
That creep Murphy was there, laying a reef.
I was disgusted too.
229

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:35:54
Sir Alex Ferguson reputedly earns close on £4 million per annum.

That must stick in the craw of Mc Max.
230

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 18:38:13
#225 Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"The people know the revenue from oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could."
_______________________________________________________

What people is that then?

So football gives people a better chance than oil?

Well that just about re-writes the manual on Economics.

231

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:39:14
233 Patrick O'Reilly,Coatbridge

Correct Patrick. Sky muted the microphones so that you could not hear the disgusting chants during the 1 minutes silence.

You can view it and hear it quite clearly here however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5y2-U6Ll1Q

232

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:41:39
235
Ferris Bueller.
Not in the slightest.
He should stick to what he knows best and not express labour propaganda ,especialy in Glasgow whre he has not lived for over two decades.
Keep tryin son.
233

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 18:43:11
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"Alex Ferguson is in touch with the people alright he’s in touch with their aspirations."
______________________________________________________


At £42.99 for a Man United home shirt He's in touch with his own aspirations!

234

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

08/11/2009 18:45:17
233 Patrick O'Reilly,


By the way “Patrick rufus”, what is the name of the nearest Chip Shop to Cliftonhill?

I’m sure you must know that!
235

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 18:47:29
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"Football with the money and stardom gives the ordinary person on the street the sense of being able to follow dreams."
_____________________________________________________

So! Do you play football then?

236

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 18:48:17
237
Ferris Bueller,
Just checked yer link.
Totaly disgusting.
It,s sad that a minority of brain dead morons are thick as f@ck.
A good kicking would be appropriate.
237

Eòghan,

Sweden 08/11/2009 18:48:45
For some time now I have followed the Scotsman's site but dared not post to show my ignorance, but this one's easy.
Sir Alec sends the letters now and Labour wins. Next year Labour voters are offered free tickets to Man.Utd. games, so many that Man.Utd. will have to have exhibition games. Labour wins the GE. They make Lord Ferguson of Govan the new minister for sport. All sports except football are banned. Man. Utd. are made by royal proclamation English champions each year.
It's easy when you know how it works.
238

Ferris Bueller,

08/11/2009 18:49:42
242 Mc Max

I have a new found respect for you!
239

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 18:51:56
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"The SNP hasn’t been doing well enough lately to let such opportunities slip through their fingers."
_____________________________________________________

Do you think the SNP should take advantage of the transfer window then?

Look for some class signings perhaps??

240

Donald Mac,

08/11/2009 18:55:03
Ferguson said "Glasgow is my home city and every time I come back, I see the changes for the better since 1997”

That’s funny because since 1997 the rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer under this Labour Government.

No wonder Ferguson wants people to keep voting Labour, it’s so that people like him can keep lining their own pockets while others continue to live in poverty.

He would certainly make a good Labour politician.
241

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 19:03:21
#225 Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"The people know the revenue from oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could."
______________________________________________________

YES "Warden Resurrected"

Actually posted those words.

I hear that OPEC have made a move to sign Ronaldo.

242

morris,

edinburgh 08/11/2009 19:04:11
208 Would it have anything to do with big Tams job took him all over the world and mostly Hollywood, where as sir Ecks took him all over England but mostly Salford?
243

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 19:11:20
#225 Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 18:22:16

Says:-
"The people know the revenue from oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could."
_______________________________________________________

That's it then!

Empty the Universities!

Sack all the Economics Lecturers!

Get Every student out on the football field!

"Warden Resurrected" is the new Messiah of Economics!

And all this time I thought he was an idiot.

244

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 19:15:05
Skeletor would make a very efficient goal post.
245

Warden Resurrected,

08/11/2009 19:42:44
Jo'Burg Jock
236-Take a look at the background footballers usually come from, the working class. You are not telling me the working class are going to gain the same opportunities directly from Government these footballers can get. Why not tell us the name of your economics manual which discusses football in such detail.

239-Your argument against Alex Ferguson being in touch with the people’s aspiration makes no sense. Both the people and Alex Ferguson know of his humble beginnings and what he has achieved. This is where the aspiration comes from.

241-Truthfully, I didn’t want to be a footballer.

245-On present form they’d miss it and blame everyone else for their mistake.
246

Warden Resurrected,

08/11/2009 19:45:13
Jo'Burg Jock
249-Come on then oh enlightened one, tell us all what the SNP are going to do with the revenue money for the people of Glasgow North East.
247

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 19:57:53
250 McMax,

Until he got skelped wi the ba, then we would see the goalpost being moved as Labour do often.
248

Rob Royston,

Africa 08/11/2009 20:06:41
252,

Buy lottery tickets?
249

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 20:08:05
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 19:42:44

Says:-
"Take a look at the background footballers usually come from, the working class. You are not telling me the working class are going to gain the same opportunities directly from Government these footballers can get."
___________________________________________________

That would be fantastic if every kid could become a top class footballer.

What are the odds on that?

Nurturing a decent economic (manufacturing) base would provide better aspirations for the general population than your Hairy Fairy Wonderland where everyone makes the same money as Rooney or your pal Ferguson.

250

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 20:12:03
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 19:42:44

Says:-
"Your argument against Alex Ferguson being in touch with the people’s aspiration makes no sense. Both the people and Alex Ferguson know of his humble beginnings and what he has achieved. This is where the aspiration comes from."
_______________________________________________________


Yes I'm sure his aspirations are indeed motivated by his humble beginnings at £42.99 for a Man United home shirt.

251

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 20:14:07
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 19:42:44

Says:-
"Truthfully, I didn’t want to be a footballer."
______________________________________________________

I bet you do now!


252

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 20:17:38
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 19:42:44

Says:-
"On present form they’d miss it and blame everyone else for their mistake."
_____________________________________________________

I was only kidding about the SNP and a transfer window.

It doesn't happen in politics.

How old are you??

253

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 20:25:13
In the seventy,s I wanted to be a plumber or an electrician or a bricklayer even a joiner,but labour made sure there were no apprenticeships.
Gordy is making dam sure history repeats it,s self.
Thanks labour.
Nothing changes in the poxed corrupt unequal union.
254

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 08/11/2009 20:26:38
Warden Resurrected,08/11/2009 19:45:13

Says:-
"Come on then oh enlightened one, tell us all what the SNP are going to do with the revenue money for the people of Glasgow North East."
______________________________________________________

How about building a country with a future?

And not Shoring up a failed British Government with Bank Bailouts, Gratuitous Olympic Games, Channel Tunnels, Redundant Millennium Domes, Illegal Wars, Trident Missiles and Telling people that:-

"oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could" - (Your Words)

255

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 20:36:51
#251 Warden Resurrected

I think it is more about who you are and where you are going than where you came from.

He has left his humble beginnings behind and he won't be back...we have nothing that he wants.

His "humble beginnings" as a football manager were with East Stirlingshire...They didn't get so much as a name-check in the only one of the seven or eight ghost-written "autobiographies" he has scooped up the royalties on.
256

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 20:50:50
From a fan review of Michael Crick's unauthorised Biography - "The Boss".

"Crick has made his name as a political reporter and has written books about Jeffrey Archer and Labour’s Militant Tendency.
It shows.
There is more, for example, in his Ferguson biography about Tony Blair and his press secretary Alistair Campbell than about Roy Keane, who has been arguably the most important player in Ferguson’s Manchester United."
257

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 20:56:17
#261 should have finished...that I have read.
258

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 20:59:30
225, Warden Resurrected,

"The people know the revenue from oil and gas isn’t going to give them the same chance as football could."

There isn't enough teams for everyone who wants to play a game so it's hard just trying to get a game in the first place for many. Especially with the way the game is structured in Scotland with many grassroots facilities having been neglected somewhat over the past few decades.

Some of the oil money could go to that to get everyone who wants to take part playing, with the infra structure there in place, but throughout the Labour and Tory years the volume of pitches in Scotland that were once many and fully used has drastically been cut over time.

Of course, only the top teams pay the money you hear about being paid to certain players but there could certainly be more in the way of decent pitches for those who just want to play for the sake of it.

The long term benefit would indeed mean the prospects of many would be raised and there would be positive fitness benefits instead of people being unhealthy as a result of Labour policies like in Glasgow.
259

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 08/11/2009 21:01:43
well fergie fits in with the labour party ethos very well, a other unelected member of the delusioned politburo.
you've got to laugh? labour fighting for their life's to save a "safe" seat. reality check for labour, it's all over in around just 30 week.
260

museum attendant,

glasgow north 08/11/2009 21:02:25
alex...fc.k off.
one of the nosebags for one of your racehorses would keep a family in glasgow for a week.
you, like billy connolly--talk the glesga way when it suits you--and down us behind our backs.
not much diff between glasgow north and cheshire is there!!

funny, "oor cilla black" and frank bruno and jim davidson and......all said they would leave the country if labour won with tony blair..guess what? the parasites are still here!

leave it out alex, the people have been shat on for too long by you and your like. words are cheap and labour party promises even cheaper.

youve had your chance (75 years!)
261

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 21:13:27
Have the McGovern and Lyons mobs picked sides in this bi-election yet?
262

Steve Foley,

England 08/11/2009 21:40:09
I don't live in Glasgow North-East but if I did I'd crawl on my belly to the Polling Station to vote SNP if I received a message from him! I was overjoyed to see Chelsea beat Man Utd today and I detest Fergie.
263

blancmange,

08/11/2009 21:41:36
Alex Ferguson's support of Labour is a relationship based on nostalgia. He's been an out and out free capitalist for years. You can't be the manager of Man Utd and not be, unless, of course, you're a hypocrite.
264

tommy M,

Scotland 08/11/2009 21:56:52
From Guardian "Alex Fergusson rejected the opportunity to manage Scotland on a part-time basis for the second time in his career before George Burley was appointed to the role last January.

A direct inquiry was made by the Scottish Football Association's board after Alex McLeish departed for Birmingham City, with a view to appointing Ferguson while allowing the 67-year-old to continue with his job at Manchester United. However, it quickly became apparent that Ferguson was not willing to return to international football and it seems certain one of Scotland's finest managers will never work in the country again."

Except for working for the scottish labour "party" mibbe? desperados!

265

tommy M,

Scotland 08/11/2009 22:00:51
Orders and special awards of Fergie (from wikipedia)
Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE): 1983
Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE): 1995
Knight Bachelor: 1999

nuff said?
266

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

08/11/2009 22:06:50
Fitba Krazy
#218
I challenge anyone to follow your link and look at your comment I was discussing. They will find me questioning the content of your post for the lack of evidence you were backing your claim up with. This is in marked contrast to your abusive constructed allegation.
267

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 22:27:05
267
CoI Blimp Vl.
I think they are in charge of labour postal vote security.
268

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 22:36:58
269
blancmange.
Agree, but there is no excuse for ignorance,labour didnae hold a gun to his head, he should be intellegent enough to know when he is being used.
I think he is just thick.
269

CoI Blimp Vl,

08/11/2009 22:40:14
#273 Mc Max

Ah! Democracy Afghan style...I wondered why Broon congratulated Karsai on his opponents withdrawal from the election.
270

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 22:49:41
275.

Aye,
It took Broon months to acknowledge A.Salmond as first minister of Scotland and two seconds to fawn all over Karsai.
Labour are the pits.
271

Brianwci,

08/11/2009 23:00:45
Perhaps Mr Ferguson should be invited to Glasgow to point out all the huge improvements Glasgow North East has seen over the years, and while he's at it, he might explain how Glasgow North East got into the state it is currently in....despite being Governed at local and UK level for over 70 years by Labour.
272

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 23:05:15
Here,s Fergie, catching up on Glasgow,s improvments.
http://tinyurl.com/yflzqv4
273

Scotland Free or a desert,

Midlothian 08/11/2009 23:24:26
Oh no not Alex Ferguson being rolled out again to support another pointless Labour campaign. Does he not realise that they are a bunch of incompetent ballons who have sent us in to illegal wars and bankrupted the country. Labour do not support the ordinary working man they are only interested in self preservation of their careers. I hope that Labour are hammered in Glasgow North East. I hope that the SNP take the seat and give the people their a sense of hope and pride. Vote Labour for the highest male unemployment in Glasgow and degrading levels of poverty. This is what labour stand for poverty and unemployment. In 6 months time it will be labour no more, consigned to the dustbin of history when that cretin Broon and his hopeless cabinet are booted out never to return, and Nu Lab out of politics for generations.

I hope that the people of GNE vote on Thursday but vote for the SNP to deliver a new sense of hope and purpose.
274

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08/11/2009 23:40:30
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275

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 08/11/2009 23:41:02
Jo'Burg Jock
255-You are defiantly in some sort of alternate universe when aspirations are seen in the mundane. My argument wasn’t about everybody being footballers or making the same money as the Rooneys of this world. My argument was about the comparison between those playing football and those who don’t. I agree with you about nurturing a decent economy as an important aim.

256-There is one major stumbling block with your idea of the shirts, the people he’s going to visit in Glasgow North East. He will know there’s little chance of these people being able to buy them, so no aspiration on that score unless his aspiration is to improve their living standards.

257-Again truthfully, No.

258-There was me thinking you were being serious. ;-)

260-This is very interesting, but still you’ve no idea. When building a decent country for the future we are going to need more than the money from oil revenue. At this time we’ve not got it, and taking this into an independent Scotland will not improve our chances one single bit. Do you not think it strange a people not motivating themselves to make a difference to create ideal conditions to start off with in an independent Scotland? Had you read anything I usually say you would know I’m all behind Scotland becoming independent when the people show the motivation to change the way they are. Stepping from inside of the union to outside of the union is unlikely to change the chronic couch potato which is endemic to Scotland.
276

Fitba Krazy,

08/11/2009 23:51:44
272, DeanConinPeteFSteed,

What is it about the quote I made that annoys you?

"It just goes to show how wealthy the people of Scotland would now be,,,,,,"

Also, still referring to the same comment, you left out the last word "be" in your quote and questioned some aberration. Could you explain what the aberration is that you are talking about and why it should be treated derogatorily?

Your quote:- "Where do you get this “It just goes to show how wealthy the people of Scotland would now” aberration from?"

277

Mc Max ,

08/11/2009 23:52:30

281.
Had a skin full have we.
Yaaawwwnnnn.
278

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 08/11/2009 23:59:24
CoI Blimp Vl
261-I think it is all three, who you are, where you are going, and where you came from. We are all a product of where we come from, with no exceptions. There’s a fantastic little film called Good will hunting which illustrates this point. Matt Damon’s character has the opportunity to leave his rough life and neighbourhood behind but he gets sentiment of losing what he had. When suggesting he was thinking of not leaving his best friend gets upset with him for saying this. The others would leave when possible but can’t, and can’t stand people not taking the opportunity when they can.
279

morris,

edinburgh 09/11/2009 00:06:48
271
Whilst winning a European trophy with Aberdeen was undoubtedly management of a competent standing,and no one disputes he is a capable manager,it would be pretty hard to not do reasonably well managing what was until a few seasons ago the richest club in the world,and is still thereabouts!
When you have millions available you can literally buy anybody who shines and Wayne Rooney is a classic example.
Yes Alex Ferguson is a capable club manager. I don't doubt this.That does not mean his political judgement is sound. That does not even apply to McCavity.
This reminds me of a door I canvassed in Midlothian and was making a case for the economic strength of an independent Scotland when the reply I was given from a more elderly gentleman was" Dinnae try tae tell me aboot yon "ecky nomics" son,ah wis a miner at the lady fur fourteen year" !
Oh well I said Cant argue with that centre of learning and excellence, and just gave up on him.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion and in a democracy I would welcome this.The majority should rule the day. It does not necessarily mean that they know what they are talking about though!
Can anyone tell me how many Chancellors of the Exchequer have had a degree in economics?
The answer should tell you why I ask !
280

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 00:17:09
272, DeanConinPeteFSteed,

Here is some evidence that you say was lacking.

http://www.oilofscotland.org/mccrone_oil_reports.html
281

morris,

edinburgh 09/11/2009 00:46:57
281 The oil revenue multiplies in its effectiveness at any given time by a factor of around 12 times (approx)because of Scotlands much smaller economy.In any case Scotland was self sufficient at all times even prior to the discovery of oil,and the McCrone Report confirmed an overwhelming and embarrassing wealth would accrue to Scotland.We of course were told the opposite and believed it!
Its bad enough to have been conned out of this wealth,but to not even realise it after its been released in a government commissioned report,is barking!Nevertheless many Scots are proud of being too stupid to know they have been burgled.

The real success will come from renewable energy.Scotland potentially is the power house of Europe and our generating potential from renewables replaces the oil revenues FOR EVER.
Renewables dont run out ever,do they.
Scotlands future is secure provided we dont listen to any more of LONDONS crud!
282

jafra loo,

09/11/2009 00:47:02
This is ridiculous, incredible, horrendous.

I'm glad I'm not from Glasgow, but bet you're glad yer no a Dundonian, love you all. You guys can make a difference.
283

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

09/11/2009 01:00:04
Fitba Krazy
#282
The fictitiousness of the quote you made on my behalf was the abuse. I didn’t place the “be” on the end of the quote because I was emphasising the “now” in respects to what you had said suggesting the longevity of a problem being relevant from the Roman period. The aberration was this link suggesting the Roman period made a significant impact on the wealth of Scotland of today.
284

jafra loo,

09/11/2009 01:03:04
We have the skills
just need to keep pass'n them on
285

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

09/11/2009 01:05:03
Fitba Krazy
#286
Your link makes no impact at all on what you had said and only covers the period the report was made onwards, so is inappropriate for the range you was suggesting.
286

jafra loo,

09/11/2009 01:25:04
Dean + Anorack on a windy afternoon + participant/winner in local chess competitiion + #291 = almost boring boy x
287

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 09/11/2009 01:26:07
Fitba Krazy
264-Had you read what I’ve said you would’ve realise it was a comparison between those who play and those who don’t and not the total population as players. I also find your remarks offensive to the extreme in regards to your reasoning behind the quality of our football players due to infra structure. We are seeing African players who started with makeshift footballs kicked around with bare feet on dust, playing at top flight teams across Europe. What we’ve got is no excuse for the lack of quality in our players. Yes money can be thrown at projects, but what good are the projects without the will to participate. I’m not seeing the great rush to physically improve the nation’s health.
288

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 01:47:01
289/291 DeanConinPeteFSteed,

If you look at the comment I made you will see that I was referring to the 'British' attempt at emulating the Roman Empire and siphoning Scottish resources ,therefore the link is highly relevant NOW.

Quote:- "It just goes to show how wealthy the people of Scotland would now be if it wasn't for the 'British' attempt at emulating the Romans and constantly siphoning the wealth from where ever they could starting with Scotland."
289

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 02:05:27
293, Warden Resurrected,

I was saying that due to the infrastructure having been depleted over the years that not so many can play for a team now as used to be the case as there are less teams nowadays.

The way the game is in Scotland tends to overlook skill and replace it with brawn therefore the way the game is currently structured, bearing in mind that agents promote players from their pool and professional players are in the Pro. Players Union, sees too many skilful players being missed altogether, imo.

I am not saying the players available at the moment are not the best there is at a practical level but I am saying that we cannot go on like this if we expect to succeed in the future in the modern game of football and that means finding the best players and having more playing the game means more to pick from. Facilities and organisation are required to do this and it is supposedly the SFA's Raison d'etre.

If they put in a bit of effort coupled with some oil money it could go a long way in getting people playing and becoming fitter. What do you suggest?
290

Pomodora,

Gravesend 09/11/2009 04:57:41
#122 Astarte, sensible post; well presented arguement and an appeal to the intelligent voters in Glasgow. Whether the Nationalist Party be Scottish or British the concept of tunnel vision is apparent. Labour must be strengthened and restored to its idealism and this is best served by returning them to the service of governing. I agree with your premise.
291

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 07:33:44
296,Pomodora,

The tunnel vision is far more apparent in those who despite suffering the effects of tremendous deprivation directly or indirectly still vote for a party of avaricious charlatans posing as politicians who will somehow benefit those who vote for them, namely the Labour Party. who have presided over the impoverishment of Scotland and Glasgow.

It is somehow regarded by some that the vision to run your own country is somehow diminished by wishing to do so and yet their vision is somehow regarded as panoramic if they vote for the charlatans who will only add longevity to the appalling situation of being annexed by another country for hundreds of years already and who add to the insult by helping themselves grotesquely as those they purport to represent are abused and neglected by them as they worm their way into positions within the London establishment whose bias and introverted interests have fed off the fear, poverty and despair of those annexed by London.
292

DeanConinPeteFSteed,

09/11/2009 09:04:52
Fitba Krazy
#294
Even now you can’t see your own error in the way you’ve mishandled abbreviation in your comment which has made it sound odd. The model you use in trying to explain siphoning of resources does work for outside of Great Britain, though as Great Britain is the nation state it tries to explain away the normal working practice of commerce and infra structure within any other nation on this planet. I guess no apology will be forthcoming.
293

Warden Resurrected,

09/11/2009 09:36:29
Fitba Krazy
295-I too once thought it was down to with the infrastructure and a reduction of investment. I saw it as clear as day it being the Tories creating the conditions including forcing after school activities out. Then one day I was comparing what we were doing in world cups and the way we were playing and it struck me. The period between 1967 and 1974 we usually see as being a special time in our game was in fact the end of our special time in football. From this time onwards everything tails off. Everything else came as a direct result over the last 35 years. My bone of contention is this; our style of play was called the Scottish style. Brazil and Argentina use the Scottish style to underpin their whole system with the extra fancy skill element added on top. We no longer practice our own style. All of the investment in the world isn’t going to give us back this style unless we set out to recreate it. My advice would be to look at the many brazilian schools we already have and utilise them to bring our own game back to us. Our Scottish style came about by not the kids playing on the streets but the wet and slow conditions on grass and dirt not specially designed fields.
294

Virgil,

West Vancouver 09/11/2009 09:58:16
#296 Pomodora, I too believe that there is a propensity to elevate idealism to a higher plain in reconstructing a model (read Party) however the roots of the Labour Party has for too long been fertilized with compromise and can only be restored with new seedlings (read visionaries) being planted. The demographics of Glasgow provide fodder for discontentment among the electorate who in the main are illiterate, poor and lacking in any idealistic vision and this makes them gullable to believe in the rhetoric of politicians, from all parties.
295

ecosseman,

FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA 09/11/2009 10:43:28
HEY FERGIE,WHY ARE YOU GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE GREEDY LABOUR LOSERS.

THEY ARE FINISHED IN SCOTLAND, THEY HAVE WASTED SO MANY LIFES IN BOTH WAR AND PEACE.

BROON MAKES TOO MANY BAD JUDGEMENTS,HE IS A NATURAL BORN LOSER.

WALK AWAY FERGIE,DONT LOOK BACK.

A PEERAGE AINT WORTH IT.

ALL SCOTLAND NEEDS GUYS LIKE YOU TO FIGHT AGAINST GREEDY LONDON.

ROLL ON THE ELECTION!
296

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 12:44:19
298, DeanConinPeteFSteed,

Great Britain is a construct to include Scotland (undemocratically and against the will of the people) along with England and Wales in Great Britain.

Scotland's resources are not being properly distributed for the benefit of the people of Scotland and instead are used by the London Government to finance an agenda that the people of Scotland do not have a say in as politically we are outnumbered by the people of England by around 10-1. You know all this already,of course. Scotland and it's people are therefore being taken advantage of as the disparity in wealth between the component nations of Great Britain in favour of the S.East of England proves.

There will never be parity due to the biased avaricious nature of London politicians who see the union with Scotland as a convenient gravy train for their own benefits and not for the people of the Countries within that union.

Scotland is my nation NOT Britain which does not actually include Scotland and the empire was /is referred to as the British Empire and not the Great British empire.

There are many other anomalies deliberately used, in my opinion, to continually undermine the people of Scotland and to persuade them to remain 2nd class citizens within a biased and needless union with England that was never created with the intention of benevolence towards Scotland in the first place. Any apology should be to the Scottish people for having been taken for granted by the self gratifying and pompous London establishment who have deliberately abused the situation to the betterment of themselves and to the detriment of the people of Scotland.
297

Fitba Krazy,

09/11/2009 12:52:52
299 Warden Resurrected,

Yes the game is different in Scotland due to playing in wintry conditions that make subtle differences to the nature of the game.

Nowadays the majority of our continental competitors are from warmer and dryer climates and benefit greatly from the World and European tournaments being held in the summer and also generally speaking in warmer countries too.

All I am saying is to adapt to this we should do all we can to identify the problems that lead to our being eliminated from these tournaments all too often at the early stages and do something about it before it gets worse.
298

King O The Picts,

09/11/2009 13:44:31
Jesus they are bringing in Red Eck times must be tough, if this git could string two words together outside of a dressing room it would be funny.

What the hell does a football team manager know about running a country.......screw all.... get a bloody grip Scotland, and get rid of this cancer called labour.
299

The Master,

09/11/2009 15:13:37
#304: "What the hell does a football team manager know about running a country"

I understand that Sir Alex is extremely well read on certain subjects, including politics. I also think that his success in his chosen profession shows a nouce which must command respect.

Sir Alex is someone who has enjoyed great personal success and he must have an insightful sense of perspective when he reflects on his roots.
300

Hobbe,

09/11/2009 15:57:33
Alex ferguson is merely a Labour mouth piece wheeled out when an election comes, though I'd have thought that labour would have saved him for the rreal test of the general uk elections rather than spouting his hypocritical nonsense at Glasgow North East, the safest Labour seat in Scotland.

They must be a bit panicky.

Bring on Jim devine, the MP for Livi still allowed to draw his MP salary amid almost daily allegations and labour refusing the by election Livingston deserves as much as Glasgow North East.

has the Scotsman even reported the latest in a long list of revelations about what the Labour MP Jim devine is up to, or is it all about molly coddling the pathetic labour party in the dire hope that they can report only Glasgow North east in a false way?
301

SkeptikScot,

14/11/2009 21:18:00
There seems to be a lot of bitterness that Alex Ferguson "turned his back on Scotland when he was offered the opportunity to manage the national team".

Did you see the national team play tonight? Wouldn't you rather manage Man Utd? Wouldn't you rather manage East Stirlingshire?

 

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