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Olympic chief won't apologise over web row



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Published Date: 03 August 2008
INTERNATIONAL Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge yesterday refused to apologise over the internet access row which he admitted has been the "hot topic" heading into the Beijing Games.
Rogge, speaking after the IOC's pre-Games executive board meeting, insisted no deal had been struck with the Chinese organisers to accept some website restrictions.

He also pointed out that internet access had improved since the beginning of the
week when several politically sensitive websites were blocked.

Asked if he thought the IOC should apologise to the media over the handling of the internet access issue, Rogge said: "I am not going to apologise for something for which the IOC is not responsible. We are not running the internet in China.

"Let me make it clear. The IOC is in favour of the broadest amount of internet access for the media. That is the bottom line. Secondly, there has been no deal at any time between the IOC leadership and the Games organisers to accept any restrictions.

"When Beijing was awarded the Olympic Games, the IOC promised the media the fullest access to the internet and BOCOG (the organising committee] has said it will deliver."

Meanwhile, the IOC yesterday stripped gold medals from the US men's 4 x 400-metre relay team that competed at the 2000 Olympics in the aftermath of Antonio Pettigrew's admission that he was taking banned substances at the time.

The IOC executive board disqualified the entire team – the fourth gold and sixth overall medal stripped from that US track contingent in the past eight months for drug-taking.

Three golds and two bronzes were previously removed after Marion Jones confessed to using performance-enhancing drugs. During a trial, Pettigrew admitted he used EPO and human growth hormone from 1997 to 2003.

Five of Pettigrew's teammates will also lose their medals: Michael Johnson and twins Alvin and Calvin Harrison ran in the final; Jerome Young and Angelo Taylor ran in the preliminaries.

It was Johnson's fifth gold medal. He has already said he was giving it back because he felt "cheated, betrayed and let down" by Pettigrew's testimony.





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  • Last Updated: 02 August 2008 10:59 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: 2008 Olympics
 
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postmarkfiftiefive,

China, 03/08/2008 00:17:50
Good, INTERNATIONAL Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge doesn't have to apologize, and neither does the Chinese government. You're in our country, so play by our rules. It's as plain and simple as that.
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Mashimaro,

China 03/08/2008 02:40:23
It's a stupid thing to row about. Why would journalists need urgent access to the propagandist sites anyway.
But I can see that it was obviously on the west's "agenda". And apparently China agreed. Perhaps where was a misunderstanding. Imagine if you went to England and started complaining because you couldn't get on to kiddi porn sites. Or if you went to Dubai for the Games and wanted to know why you couldn't access Playboy. It really is very very petty.
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Guga II,

Rockall 03/08/2008 06:12:00
#2 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

Comparing access to child pornography sites with access to political sites is a new low for you. There is no comparison, and you know it.

Your gangster government must also have reached a new low if they have authorised you to make such a statement.
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Boy Wonder,

03/08/2008 06:16:42
Another reason this Olympics should never have gone to China! This will not be a happy Games ... but will we be told the truth?
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postmarkfiftiefive,

China, 03/08/2008 06:20:38
#4 Boy Wonder,
I'm just 'wonder'ing, does your government tell you the truth 'boy'?
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Boy Wonder,

03/08/2008 07:12:07
#5. I wasn't referring to the government of this country ... though if you mean the UK govt ... at least we can vote them out!

I was of course referring to the criminal cartel that rule in China and commit violations of human rights every day! Their internet restrictions are exactly that!
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Lee Hutchison,

Fife, Scotland 03/08/2008 07:38:58
It's an absolute disgrace that these games went to a country with such a poor human rights record in the first place, but of course it's all to do with money. Everything about the way China is 'governed' goes against the spirit of the olympics.
The only way to show your disgust for this farce is to vote with your remote......don't watch this garbage. BOYCOTT THE GAMES
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Englebert Humperdinck,

Here and there 03/08/2008 08:36:07
#1 and #2, You are obviously two brain washed individuals to spew such garbage from your mouths. The simple fact is the Olympics should never be in China to start with.

You say:"You're in our country, so play by our rules. It's as plain and simple as that".

Well my friend, the Olympic Games do play play by your pittiful Chinese rules and there are plenty other countries that would love to play the Olympic rules. I agree with #7. Lee
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Mashimaro,

China 03/08/2008 08:49:59
Ah but the Games DID go to China. Your bad!
I believe they were given to China in a bid to destabilise us. But that's just because I'm a hard cynic about the west and its motives.
As for human rights abuses, I suggest you look closer to home for things like renditions. Don't try to take the moral highway here. Your government that you voted in is involved in the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovreign country.
Please tell me why it is so important for the western journalists to have access to the progaganist sites of the CIA whilst they are in china. What is so burningly urgent about this? If there is something they need to know they have editors that can alert them by phone or by email. So don't you think it's just a little bit disingenuous to link the games to china banning a few extreme sites?
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 03/08/2008 08:57:28
#9. You have a curious mix of English - using something simple like "your" incorrectly but using "disingenuous" in context. Something curious there.

Good to see you have unfettered access to a UK newspaper site though.

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MacGillicuddy,

03/08/2008 09:03:17
#4
No worries. The truth about the thuggish gangsters who run Red China WILL out.
Watch this space.
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Mashimaro,

China 03/08/2008 09:48:40
#10 Why would you belief that this particular site would be banned from China?
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Mashimaro,

China 03/08/2008 09:49:59
#10 Why would you belief that this particular site would be banned from China?
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Puling Prince Roman,

Censorious dictatorship 03/08/2008 10:19:23
You couldn't make it up. Yesterday, in response to the MacGillicudy's jackass braying 'Yeah well how come we can't go posting on blogs on Chinese media websites?" I posted the details of one of China's websites where you can do precisely that.

It's one of the biggest sites in China, and as well as the original Chinese it has sections in English, French, German, Russian, Japanese, Arabic Korean and Spanish. You can post on all its news and features articles without having to register or log in, so the site doesn't collect your email address.

The above is all I posted - along with the web address. Nothing inflammatory, nothing insulting, nothing that could remotely be considered to conflict with any reasonable posting rules on any reasonable media site in the 'free west'.

And what happens? My post gets deleted. "We don't want ignorant jackasses like MacGillicudy realising that thy're perfectly free to go and post their drivel on Chinese media websites. We like to keep them ignorant, so that they'll carry on lapping up all our judgemental nonsense on China..."

I guess it's easier to maintain the western propaganda lies about the restrictive Chinese media if you deny jackasses like MacGillicudy access to places where they would be forced to face up to the fact that their prejudices are just that - ignorance-based nonsense.

Not much point in me posting the web address again, I guess.
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MacGillicuddy,

03/08/2008 10:28:48
#14
Well I will find out for myself later this week.
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Mashimaro,

China 03/08/2008 11:02:45
I think everyone here means different things when they talk about web freedom. do they mean access to the internet? Or do they mean access to everything ON the internet? Or do they mean that people can put whatever they please on the internet?
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albanman,

Edinburgh 03/08/2008 11:26:42
Why would anyone regard Chinese internet access as a burning story? China does not pretend to be a democracy. Such nations tend to seek control over what their people read, and China is no exception. The IOC knew about this shameful situation when it awarded the summer games to a politically repressive regime; it is not a new situation. Along with the Chinese government placing military thugs as 'guardians' of the Olympic torch, some who post on this thread are probably Communist Party lackies, tasked with counteracting criticism.

As for #16: By free access, I mean being able to view whatever has been placed on the internet; from reading the previous posts, I presume that the rest would agree with me. I certainly do not believe that there should be total freedom to post things on the internet; an example of this would be child pornography.
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 12:33:56
#10 GrahamH,
Please take it from me, Mashimaro has a better grasp on the language than all of us put together, sometimes he's guilty of a typo or two, but his language skills put us all to shame.
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03/08/2008 12:34:53
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 12:47:18
Like Mashimaro pointed out earlier, why have a row about internet site accessability? This about the Olympic Games, nothing more, nothing less. The foreign press is/are present to show and report the Games itself and the results, stay out of our internal affairs. These are called the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympic games, not the affairs of China and what happens here on a daily basis. For those of you who want to know more about China, spend your money, come here and find out for yourself. For those of you that are into soap operas, watch your own TV shows about your country and its screw-ups. Remember glass houses, we read the Scotsman and see how many problems you have there, but we don't comment on them for two reasons.
#1. We really could care less.
#2. It's none of our business.
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 12:50:34
#20 Horrible Cankers @ Cyber Shebeen,
Could you please define the word 'whinge' for me please, and thank you.
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 13:13:05
#14 Puling Prince Roman,

If you want an example of who you're dealing with in 57Nomad, please check out this article on page two of today's International section, you'll get my drift.
It's called, "India close to US nuclear deal."

Be warned, you'll probably split your sides laughing, but hey, it's too good to pass up. Enjoy.
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03/08/2008 13:34:52
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03/08/2008 13:35:59
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 13:43:12
Hey Horrible Cankers, thanks for the answer,

Now about the removal of that post you eluded to, here it is,

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk/We-will-bounce-back-say.3972270.jp

And here's what I had said on that fateful day.

"And Fitzpark, well, his lineage dictates his stupidity, so he sits in front of his computer and quotes Latin phrases out of his Latin phrase book, showing absolutely no self thought. He must be a happy boy though, for like the saying goes, "no brain, no pain".

So now it's here for the world to see what a racist I am.

Like I told you before you over-weight cow, Irish is a nationality, not a race, and lineage refers to family, not race. Go and grasp at your straws elsewhere, we already know your mentality.
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03/08/2008 13:48:39
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postmark fifty-fyve,

China, 03/08/2008 14:17:17
Ah but Horrible, you seem to forget that I'm the one having fun with imbeciles like you, if you hurry, you can still make it to the Special Olympics, you're a natural to clean up on ALL the gold, you'll do your Communist parents proud.
Look at our daughter, she just got the gold medal in drooling, and she's always playing with the wee little blue smurfs.
One goes by the name of PANCHEN,
and the other is called LAMA, how cute.
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Mashimaro,

03/08/2008 14:21:13
#20 Okay I've tried to stay out of purile personal attacks but LIONS!!! aaaa ha ha ha ha ah ha ha a ha.
You guys couldn't argue your way out of wet paper bag! Sometimes
I think you are the lackeys of the communist party you make to so easy on us. There is only one of you who vaguely aroused any respect in me and then lost it when he was patently unable to admit when he was wrong. The rest of you are just fluff.
You guys got bitch slapped by a Mongolian barbarian noob with a rudimentary grasp of your own language for carp sakes.
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indune1,

Canada 03/08/2008 18:19:12

FFS! Mushy,PM55 and Horrible Cankers take it elsewhere.

Your postings are nothing but bile and vitriol.

All of you descend so rapidly from expressing an opinion to personal abuse.

Cankers is a troll and not a very articulate one at that.



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03/08/2008 19:58:13
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Edward M. Kennedy,

03/08/2008 20:56:41
34 indune1

Spot on!
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03/08/2008 21:15:23
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Ivona Vujica,

Ottawa, Canada 03/08/2008 23:14:16
Time to listen to wisdom and actions of the Tibetan Youth Congress and Stand up for Burma and hundreds of millions of virtual peasant Slaves in China-who have become the Global Sweat Shop to the World…

DAY 6 – “NOT ONLY FOOD BUT ALSO NOT A SINGLE DROP OF WATER”
Date: 02/08/2008
The sixth day of the TYC led Indefinite Fast for Tibet without food and water started as a calm morning, with the rising sun, growing heat and humidity taking its effect on the hunger strikers. The early morning weight check showed that they have lost an average of over 10 kgs as they continue their fast without not only food but also not a single drop of water. more…

BRAVE, HONOURABLE, AND COMPASSIONATE EVERYONE ONE OF YOU
http://www.tibetanyouthcongress.org/

http://floodiceorfire.wordpress.com/
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Mashimaro,

China 04/08/2008 01:47:08
#38 Six days without water? they should be dropping dead soon. The CIA should be ashamed of itself.

By the way I thought this was supposed to be a NEWS paper... it's more like an OLDS paper. I told you Beijing's skies were clear three days ago. I see they only got around to reporting on it now.

 

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