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Published Date: 29 June 2008
SCOTTISH Labour faces a "bloodbath" this summer as leading figures in the devastated and divided party battle each other to succeed Wendy Alexander as leader.
Her shock resignation yesterday launched a leadership campaign that insiders warn will expose the bitter splits among parliamentarians and activists that have been brewing in the months since Labour lost control of Holyrood.

Westminster sources
said Labour MPs will demand that the new Holyrood leader scraps support for an independence referendum, insisting that the party returns to a strongly Unionist line. But many MSPs are calling for the new leader to be given complete authority over the Scottish party, to silence SNP claims that they have to bow to the party's London HQ.


Scotland on Sunday understands that Gordon Brown will, for the first time, refrain from backing any candidate for the top job at Holyrood, a sign that he fears his endorsement might increase tensions in his already fractious party.

East Lothian MSP Iain Gray is set to be the first to declare that he will stand for the leadership vacancy. Former health minister Andy Kerr is expected to join him, while Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Cathy Jamieson are considering their positions.

Alexander announced her resignation in Glasgow yesterday morning, following the Scottish Parliament Standards Committee's decision to suspend her for a day after finding she had broken parliamentary rules by failing to register donations she had received in her election campaign last year.

She issued a fierce attack against the committee, chaired by a Nationalist MSP, claiming that there had been a breach of "natural justice" and describing it as a "partisan decision". But the SNP said that Alexander, who remains an MSP, had only her party to blame.

The affair which led to her resignation began nine months ago, when she admitted receiving an illegal £950 donation from a businessman based in Jersey. Dr Jim Dyer, Holyrood's standards commissioner, last week concluded that Alexander should have placed the donations on the register. The Standards Committee then backed his decision.

Alexander is understood to have decided on Friday that she wanted to quit, after realising that the affair would drag on through the summer. She has told friends that she would not have resigned had the Parliament voted the measure down last week. The committee's conclusions were not voted on because the Parliament went into summer recess immediately after the committee reported back.

Senior Labour figures say that the forthcoming election campaign is set to expose the infighting between the party's MPs and MSPs. "It will be a complete bloodbath," said one senior source.

Another MSP added: "The MPs will want a figure who is strongly Unionist, but we just feel that will kill us in Scotland."

Gray and Kerr were emerging as the front runners in the race to take on the job last night.

Gray is expected to run his campaign as a party 'unifier', pointing to his experience as an MSP and as a senior aide at Westminster. While Brown will stay out of the contest, his campaign is likely to be backed by other senior party figures at Westminster, including Chancellor Alistair Darling, for whom he used to work. A sceptic of Alexander's referendum strategy, it is also likely that Gray will adopt a far more cautious approach to the referendum strategy.

Senior sources said Kerr would "undoubtedly" throw his hat in the ring this week, claiming he had been building up support for a leadership campaign from business people in East Kilbride.

In a statement at John Smith House in Glasgow yesterday, Alexander said: "My pursuers have sought the prize of political victory with little thought to the standing of the Parliament. Some may feel they have achieved a political victory, but wiser heads will surely question: 'at what price?'"

She went on: "It is clear that vexatious complaints will continue to dominate the headlines as long as I remain Labour's Scottish parliamentary leader."

A source close to First Minister Alex Salmond hit back: "The only organisation that has been damaged by Wendy Alexander's resignation is the Labour Party."

Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP's deputy leader, said: "Decay from within is characteristic of the decline of the New Labour project, and Wendy Alexander's resignation is a symptom of this wider malaise."

In a further blow for Labour, it emerged yesterday that Glasgow East MP David Marshall was stepping down on health grounds. Although the 67-year-old has a 13,507 majority, the party fears another drubbing at the polls. "There is nowhere in Scotland that we want to fight an election at the moment," said a Labour source.

It was reported last night that a number of significant Labour donors had described Gordon Brown as not up to the job and accused him of mishandling the credit crunch.





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  • Last Updated: 29 June 2008 12:26 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Scottish Labour Party
 
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29/06/2008 00:13:20
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 00:34:35
Well good riddance, let's move on, this Woman
has had much more press space than she ever merited.

Getting back to real politics
it sounds like Scottish by-election woes
are piling up for Maggie Broon.

"the SNP was preparing for a by-election because a Scottish Labour MP was ill."

And guess what it is NOT Glasgow
East MP David Marshall :)

see - tinyurl.com/4lsfow & tinyurl.com/4kf34m

In terms of the David Marshall by-election
we should start to leverage and
hone our collective Cybernat talents to
prepare the ground work for an SNP
victory. One good starting point will be
to have somebody pop down to Borders
book store in Glasgow's West End
and get a copy of "Halls of Infamy by James MacDonald. The book contains allegations
of yet more Labour sleaze and it
focuses on Glasgow City Hall which is
trying to actively ban the book
see - tinyurl.com/62zol5
The fact that a favorite Labour candidate
for David Marshall's seat is the
Glasgow City Hall Councillor George Ryan
from Ward 19 Shettleston, would make
the Halls of Infamy particularly topical.

Scottish Labour have disgraced Scotland
for way too long and need to be removed
from the political landscape so that
Scotland can prosper as a nation in her
own right. The fact that they are
now officially certified as a bunch
of loonies in addition to being
incompetent and mired in sleaze just
makes it all the more urgent to have
them committed and carried off sooner
rather than later.

Saor Alba
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 00:34:58
What could be more sweet than a couple
of Scottish MP by-election wins for
the SNP ? Well how about a defection that
would work :) How about this one previously
predicted by the impressive
and very reliable
Scottish journalist Paul Hutcheon.
Quite likely all that he got wrong was
the timing and likely now would be
the perfect time before the Labour
ship sinks completely.

"Labour MP poised for defection to SNP POLITICS: SECRET TALKS"

tinyurl.com/5xz22y
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subrosa,

29/06/2008 00:48:40
According to the Mail on Sunday David Marshall's leaving isn't to do with ill health. Something to do with money...
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McGinty,

29/06/2008 01:22:03
Bring back Henry
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 01:23:28

Shame Wendy was the sacrifice, I quite liked her,...

'Stances'

It is all a,...'Hype' with Political undertones and,..

'Political correctness' to enable a 'Win' at the next Election!
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Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 29/06/2008 01:44:09

Wendy was inept as Labour leader but she was stabbed in the back by her own party .

Labour has to get more Scotcentric in Hollyrood or they are dead and so is the union
( Not that I am bothered )
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 01:49:45
14 a proud doonhamer,

"The Cyber Committee to elect Foulkes is organizing at this very moment. All those who support our illustrious George, signify immediately"

I am a charter member of the campaign to get
Baron Zebedee elected to his birth-right
position as head of the Scottish Labour Party,
ideally with Jackie Baillie as his
deputy. My fingers are crossed in anticipation,
don't disappoint me in your campaign
proud doonhamer :)
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Paul Mack,

Mandela Towers, Hades, Paisley 29/06/2008 01:53:13
On the same day as the Father of Scottish Independence, James Bond, was sitting in the gallery watching Sister Wendy feign illness, the body politic, despite its myriad of imperfections, decided enough was enough. I thought that some headline writer would go for, 'Mish Moneypenny No More', but I suppose I can't have it all my own way. I'll resist the temptation to tell you, I told you so.
When the history of the nation is being written a hundred years from now, this episode will parallel in causality and importance the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, inexecribaly leading to the complete separation of Scotland from the rest of the Union.
A political party born in Scotland has been run, for the past twenty years by spivs, shysters, parvenus and vacuous lightweights.
The real crime here, which has still gone unnoticed, is that the Alexander sisters and their ilk see nothing wrong in going cap in hand to donors, who the Labour Party would have run a mile from a generation ago. We would have been better of with Tom and Jack. At least they keep a dignified silence when the pantomime season is concluded.
A party which considered among it's number George Bernard Shaw, Maynard Keynes, Nye Bevan and Michael Foot is now reduced to Mr & Mrs Balls and Wendy & Dougie Bunny. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry. They all represent constituencies where families have not seen a job in three generations yet they continue to feather their nests in a way that is not only incestuous but disdainful of those they represent.
I've spent the last three months in the States and watched Hillary Clinton get up at 5 o'clock every morning and not retire sometimes to 2.00 a.m the next day.
Despite what many would consider her privileged background she's managed to connect with blue collar workers in way the sisterhood in the Scottish Labour Party can only dream of. And her and Chelsea done it in 4" Jimmy Choos.
"Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Ca
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Paul Mack,

Paisley 29/06/2008 01:55:15
"Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Cathy Jamieson are considering their positions".

Don't make me laugh.


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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

29/06/2008 02:09:51
#17 - paul mack. Well said. Labour have kep t their voters in poverty to ensure their reason for being. Their MPs and councillors have got fat at the trough of expectant succession.

They follow the party not their core belief or whats right. They should try a bit of doing whats right for the people instead of blindly following a party taken over by tories looking for a vehicle.



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Graeme Thomson,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 02:31:57
No.17 - nice patter.

Can't believe the state of the Labour Party. It has deserted its roots for short-term gain and is now paying the price for abandoning its core principles to make itself electable in Middle England.

The sad thing is Michael Foot would have been elected in 1997 if he had been around instead of Blair.

The Labour Party sold its soul to the devil for a victory that would have come their way anyway given the underlying pendulum-like nature of the British first-past-the-post political system.

Now the Tories will get in at Westminster with the political landscape actually having being shifted way to the right by New Labour.

Good going!
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 02:35:24
20 Graeme Thomson, Glasgow

You are spot on, and to add further to your point
about first the post.

17th Oct 2007

"Lord Foulkes of Cumnock: I tell my noble friend, the noble Baroness and her colleagues that the introduction of proportional representation in Scotland has been an absolute tragedy. We have seen chaos, confusion and cuts. At local government level, we see the Liberal Democrats in an unholy alliance with the Scottish National Party. Will my noble friend assure us that, because of this experience, we will stick to the tried and tested system of first past the post, which has given us stability in this country for decades and centuries?"

tinyurl.com/378suf

In order to preserve the Union the
Unionistas would rather have their
arch-enemies in power rather than
allow Scotland to be independent.
Clearly the Thatcher years 1979-1990
was just one of these "decades of stability",
which in the Unionist mindset is
a price worth paying. Fundamentally this is
why the Unionists will lose as they
value Scotland so much less than they
do this artificial and way past its
sell by date Union -
Democracy British Style apparently.
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Jock MacSprog,

29/06/2008 02:58:08
dont know what i find more hilarious, labour disentegrating or the Nats gloating over it as if they are somehow different. You are both tax and spend, big government socialists full of jobs for life local polticos with not a clue about the private sector or the real world. With either of you in power, Scotland will continue to descend down the spiral of more gvt jobs, higher taxes, bigger governement, less growth, more regulation, fewer new businesses, etc etc. We are the sick man of Europe, yet all you socialists, SNP, Labour and Lib Dems can only fiddle as Rome burns.
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Graeme Thomson,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 02:58:22
21 Traquir, Alba

Lord Foulkes comments say it all.

But I feel I have to qualify your next point somewhat.

The Tories used to be Labour's political and ideological arch-enemies.

Now they are just political enemies squabbling over marginal seats.

They are no longer fighting over fundamental ideas about the nature and aim of democratic societies.

That war has been lost by New Labour - well not so much a war, more a capitulation on one side of the argument.

The SNP are now Labour's only real ideological arch-enemies.


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Graeme Thomson,

29/06/2008 03:03:49
Jock MacSprog

I do have a clue about the private sector and the real world.

My gas and electricity bills testify to this.

Private utilities focus on shareholders.

Public utilities in these areas can focus on what is actually in the interest of the majority.
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John PM,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 03:21:30
No comments allowed on the grossly biased peace by Tom Brown about Wendy Alexander.

"Alexander's obvious bitterness at the Holyrood process and the SNP stitch-up is understandable. It is shared by Downing Street, where one Brownite said: "There is cold fury at this style of politics."

The SNP's involvement smacks of vendetta, Holyrood's handling of the affair has left a bad taste and the political impartiality of the Standards Committee is now in question.

For MSPs to rush away on holiday while a major committee was deliberating on an important question requiring the full Parliament's approval, hamstringing Labour through-out the recess, smacked of cynicism."

In fact Wendy was guilty as charged and for her to blame others only shows the self delusion which led her to give herself marks of 10-10 for her own abysmal incompetent performance.

I predict that we will get a new duller Labour leader, step forward Andy Kerr, Jack McConnell mark II (or maybe wee Jack himself will be dug up and resucitated, Malawi could get a new Labourite stooge easily after all but Labour will rightly dread two by-elections!) who will be duly steamrollered by Alex Salmond, no matter how many psychiatrists they get to analyse him (a clear sign of desperation, what's next, astrologists?).

I'll save them some cash, the unionists are on the wrong side of the argument, that is why Salmond is thrashing them at FMQ's, he believes what he says and talks Scotland up, they deliberately talk Scotland down because it suits their political purposes.

The killer blow will now come from Glasgow, history repeats itself, anyone remember Glasgow Govan?

Happy days.
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John PM,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 03:30:44
Straight from the dead horse's mouth:

Another MSP added: "The MPs will want a figure who is strongly Unionist, but we just feel that will kill us in Scotland."

"There is nowhere in Scotland that we want to fight an election at the moment," said a Labour source.

It was reported last night that a number of significant Labour donors had described Gordon Brown as not up to the job and accused him of mishandling the credit crunch. [but not in the Scotsman eh!]

Wendy's only positive move was her support for a referendum on independence even though she did it for the wrong reasons, it was the right decision.

I anticipate Labour now making a further U-turn and turning their back on any prospects of an independence referendum and showing their true anti Scottish colours. The SNP can then murder this pointless excuse for a political party at the next election.
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2Right,

On Location 29/06/2008 03:43:49
I will committ suicide if the old Injustice Minister Jamieson is put in charge of Scotland.
I just could not stand her incompetence.
Broon will be out on his ear as lets face it who in England is going to vote for a Scot to run their country.
He also has wendy's brother in his party too, Like sister like brother and all that eh.

When are they going to get rid of their speaker who allows his wife to claim us for taxi's, Taxi's to go shoping, we all know what happened to Taxi for McLetchie ?
Do they have one rule for one and another for the bosses ?
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mac1888,

Bute 29/06/2008 03:45:32
What a shambolic list of candidates! LMAO!!!
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Snuffy Ivy,

ABerdeen 29/06/2008 04:01:31
Hmmmm. Alex Salmond having cloak and Dagger secret talks with David Cameron over the precise plan to rid the entire country of New Labour........forever? Labour is truly 'done for' this time!

History in the making in Scotland AND in England!
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donald,

glasgow 29/06/2008 04:24:35
Eddie, Hammie, Dougie and their meejah bosses in Scotland have an impossible task, trying to spin for Old New Labour. Just look at Labour's gene pool and track record. Only numpties are left to fight for the poisoned, doomed leadership chalice.
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Wisnaeme,

29/06/2008 04:25:33
So, McCavity Broon is not going to air his preferences on the right kind of candidate for branch office promotion. Nor interfere in anyway whatsoever.

Uh Huh. Aye right. Control freaks does what control freaks do best.

Meantime in Westmidden, quote; "MPs will demand ...... ...... ......"

Apparently, lessons are not being learned by some arrogant folk.
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Canada,

Canada 29/06/2008 04:35:22
Wendy must stay!
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Wisnaeme,

29/06/2008 05:03:16
Dearie me this being against "separateness" and that sort of thing is causing them some grief.

Ah mean to say, how many different sorts of "separatenesses" can one indulge in, whilst being against separateness?

Separateness from the electorate, from reality, from ethical morals and integrity, from competence, from accountability, from hard working families and two year old weans. The list of "separatenesses" apparently are endless and more are joining the queue by the minute. Even their financial supporters and donors are becoming separated from themselves.

Uh Huh, the new buzz wurd is "separateness", right enough. No wonder the Labour numpties were so fearful of it, what with their scaremongering an all.

Apparently, "separateness" eats babies!! Now who would have thought....
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cnoc nagers,

Heilans 29/06/2008 05:42:14
A bllodbath may well be an understaement. However much Wendy and Cathy J may want to blame the SNP. They know and we know that most of the stories about Wendy were broken by the newspapers. The current story was broken by the Herald and the complaint by the SNP activist was based on that Herald story and that came from someone in Wendy's inner circle. The SNP were not Wendy's enemies, it was her colleagues. Finally her arrogance turned those closest to her against her and she got what they felt she deserved. Good to see for once a more balanced story from the Scotsman set of newspapers. Unusual but most welcome. Interesting to see how long it lasts.
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cnoc nagers,

Heilans 29/06/2008 06:00:03
And lets not forget that Wendy was still subject to another enquiry about relasing details of the previous standards enquiry which is against Holyrood rules. Her farewell gift should be a plaque for the wall.She could take her pick from

'It wisnae me, mister.'
'The buck stops somewhere, anywhere but here.'
Or she could use the quote by the Edinburgh MSP from yesterday
'Probably the best political brain in Scotland.'

Aye right!

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steve 1511,

aberdeen 29/06/2008 06:56:14
the behaviour of alexander and her cronies with their constant denial of any wrong doing when she has broken the law and the rules go to show how low the labour party morals have sunk,they are a disgrace in holyrood and to the people of scotland who voted for them
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 07:49:13
23 Graeme Thomson,Glasgow

Good points, I fully agree.
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Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 08:02:42
I have read both sides of the donations debate and must say that politicians worldwide have been guilty of far worse-Haliburton and Cheney for example! The SNP and its supporters on these forums as a representative sample, have set themselves up as the party of the squeeky clean. With all yer 'holier than thou' moralising, I hope yous are ready to fall on your swords should such a red-faced occassion arise :)
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Linda,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:03:14
37 is spot on.

Who in the Labour Party dished the dirt on Wendy?

The problem with Labour at Holyrood is that it is their 3rd team with the best (its a relative term) going to Westminster while the gender balance process disqualified half the candidates in most seats.

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Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:05:45
Bloodbath ? But is there any more blood to spill ? Decomposition might have been a better word.
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 29/06/2008 08:08:38
I saw absolutely no evidence of "one of the best political brains in Scotland". What I saw was muddle, fiddle, incompetence &, some would say, fakery (with her appropriately-timed "sore throat" - & an appropriate way to end, some claim, with justification).

Labour have taken Scotland for granted for years, their incompetence & complacency have bitten them in the @rse.

We are now going to be treated to the unedifying sight of Labour fighting like ferrets in a sack over the summer. The sight of a party imploding. Good riddance.
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elizabeth the first ,

29/06/2008 08:24:33
It amazes me how the holier than thou SNP can have such bigoted supporters,is it not time these bigots were rooted out,and kicked out of the party.
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:27:54
#46, the sore throat was one of the few convincing things surrounding Wendy over last year or so.

It would have been appropriate for Wendy to have represented Labour in Question Time this week and perhaps that played as large a part in resignation as one day ban. National TV coverage, given Wendys problems (and wisnae ma fault stance) throughout the UK would not be welcome to Gordon and mates in the South.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:28:08
As soon as this nest of socialist vipers implodes nd disappears from the political scene the better. It's inherent dishonesty and nepotism is a disgrace. Worse than that, it has made Scotland a nation of dependency junkies for the last half century. Bye Bye Wendy and take the rest of the visionless incompetents with you. That you were ever considered a 'political genius' says a lot about the pygmies that rule us.
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Alberto.,

29/06/2008 08:31:27


"She issued a fierce attack against the committee, chaired by a Nationalist MSP, claiming that there had been a breach of "natural justice" and describing it as a "partisan decision". But the SNP said that Alexander, who remains an MSP, had only her party to blame!

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Hey! Lass - don't knock it - you are still in ‘the game!’

Surely by now you will have, with all your 'alleged' experience, realise that, as they say ‘Is the way the Cookie crumbles!’

As can be clearly seen, especially nowadays, the ‘game of Politics’ has, seemingly, abandoned Truth, Honesty and Principle and completely forgotten the old well known adage ‘It’s simply Payback time!’ - it happens all the time, all over the place!

Dirty tricks operating in Politics - as you seem to be saying, must surely be considered as 'par for the course' - it certainly appears to be from 'the outside!' - but do not forget, you are still one of the 'well paid' players as a lowly MSP!

To some outsiders that can easily be interpreted as ‘your’ dirty trick!’ on the electorate!

Presumably the Salary, expenses and 'perks', that go with that job, were too tempting to let go in this 'much publicised Resignation' - a title which I have always understood meant 'letting it all go!', but presumably that's only for those with real and sincere devotion to their confidence and abilities!

It seems that all you have done is ‘Moved down the very comfortable bed slightly!’ - sounds more like ‘edging your bets’ than ‘resigning’ - as it is known!

Money - as they say, is the root of all evil - and apparently Politics, very much so it seems, especially these days!

C'est la Vie! - and it seems it ain’t too bad for some!
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waldenman,

East Lothian 29/06/2008 08:34:28
"Gray and Kerr were emerging as the front runners in the race to take on the job last night."
That's like choosing between typhoid or the plague!

Slightly off topic... I think there are two paths which Gordon Brown can follow.
First, he can remain in office for the remainder of his term and pursue a 'scorched earth' policy which the next government will have to deal with.
Or he can resign on the grounds of 'ill health' and, amid much back slapping, be feted as a 'great statesman','iron chancellor' ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
Could a peerage be far behind?
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brownlie,

29/06/2008 08:35:24
48 Lizzie

Quite right - it is a well-known fact that there are no bigots in any of the unionist parties. When canvassing in your beloved Bearsden we are always amazed that unionists are so tolerant of the views of others - especially minorities.
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:36:30
What about Wendys "wiser heads" threat in her speech. Seemed to be suggesting some reprisal which could only come from the South, for SNP.
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mr angry,

ayrshire 29/06/2008 08:37:27
#43 Any politician , SNP or not , who is breaking the law should be jounded out of parliament as soon as possible. There is no room for any abusing of the people's money. They are there to do a job and shoudl be held accountable to th elaw like anybody else.
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beckypumps1,

Fife 29/06/2008 08:44:20
So even in the end she could not bring herself to admit she was wrong, No shame to the bitter end and I for one will be glad to see the back of her.

So who will be next a teacher, social worker maybe, or do I see the mad baron coming up on the outside. What a shower of self-serving idiots.
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:44:22
I read yesterday that Labour had requested media not to hound David Marshall due to his ill health.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030240/Marshall-shock-resignation-rumours-expenses.html

Should there be truth in about to be exposed in link here, you might guess any ill health was stress related.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:47:42
#55 Mr Angry

Quite right. I love the way the redirection of public funds for a purpose it's not intended for becomes 'administrative oversight' when it involves a politician. For the rest of us it's good old-fashioned theft or embezzlement. A plague on all of them.
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Nikostratos,

29/06/2008 09:01:50
#55 mr angry

There would nobody left if they did.
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Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 09:04:13
55 Mr. Angry-am on the same page as you here-my comment comes against a distrust of politicians generally. If the SNP can keep their noses clean for any length of time then it will be much to their credit. British political life is pretty harsh on its miscreants. I dont know whether you are familiar with the Cheney-Haliburton story but it makes Wendy Alexanders sins look like naughty kids stuff. Cheneys link as Vice President to Haliburton, a company that was virtually gifted the lucrative contract to supply US troops in Iraq, fighting in a war that was engineered by his pal George Bush is such a blatant example of corruption that my admiration for the Yanks has taken a big knock. As I said Wendys misdeeds are small change and I think there is some truth in her contention that she was hounded out of office. Not that I'm complaining-as a leader of Her Majestys loyal opposition in the scottish Parliament she was no match for AS so whoever suceeds her can only be an improvement-hopefully!
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Jim P,

29/06/2008 09:15:35

Drivel from Eddie Barnes:
"leading figures in the devastated and divided party battle each other to succeed Wendy Alexander as leader"

Wendy is NOT the leader of the Labour Party in Scotland - Gordon Brown is the leader. Wendy is leader of Labour in the Scottish Parliament.
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Boy Wonder,

29/06/2008 09:17:40
There are NO Labour MSPs capable of leading the party back into the kind of support they commanded 20 years ago. All the talent has left or been kicked out.

We will have to witness the unedifying spectacle of Labour continuing in its long slow act of Hara Kiri!
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elizabeth the first ,

29/06/2008 09:30:26
53. Well hear's a thought,don't canvass in Bearsden,problem solved.
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Richardinho,

29/06/2008 09:36:29
The sunday Herald editorial encapsulates in a nutshell what I think on the matter. Wendy did break the rules and for that the suspension was right.
The SNP MSPs have done nothing other than what it is their duty to do in calling her to account on it. If you want to detect anything particularly Machiavellian in their actions then they've really simply done the equivalent of chucking a piece of raw meat into a tank of hungry piranhas. What has been exposed is the amount of infighting, chaos and incompetence within the Labour ranks and why currently they are unfit for government.
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Guga II,

Rockall 29/06/2008 09:39:35
Now that The Mouth of the South has been shafted by her own party, we need a suitable replacement. I would like to suggest to the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) that they elect Forfoulkesake as leader, and Jabba the Hutt as his deputy. They should be of great benefit to Scotland, and the SNP.
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mrsbruce,

Livingston 29/06/2008 09:39:44
So, Wendy accepted a donation which she had not declared. This was leaked by someone in the Labour Party (after all, how else were we to find out about it).

The donation was then investigated, and she was found to have broken the rules.

Wendy was then punished, but apparently none of it was her fault. It was the fault of the people who wanted the rule breaking investigated.


Mmmm......

I think I'll pop down to the local shop, nick a few things, and when the case comes up, I'll tell the Sherriff it is all the shopkeepers fault for 'hounding' me, and against 'natural' law.

Do you think he'll wear it?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 09:39:48
Imagine the ignomy of being a candidate for the new nu labourite leader of the Scottish Parish branch, and being defeated by one of the other balloons said to be in the running.

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MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 09:46:53
Now if Labour were to give Foulkes her job that would round it off nicely.
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McMillar,

Fife 29/06/2008 09:50:22
Fair enough, tough decision and I thought she could have held on. You have to admire anyone who puts themselves forward to accept a position of leadership especially if the goal is then to lead the Scottish parliament. Easy to comment and knock/criticise but if it was all done with the interest of Scotland at heart then thank you Wendy. I don’t follow the labour party closely and have no idea about the options for succession. However, certainly haven’t seen any obvious choices and given that Wendy was elected quite recently herself I have to assume that all potential candidates were considered at that time. Henry Mc was doing a fine job in the past and is the only one I can see stepping in at the right level. If not him then go for some young blood with decent track record and ideally an earlier career outside of politics. Will be an interesting period but mainly just a distraction on the side while SNP carry on showing they can run things quite well.
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Rickie,

29/06/2008 09:58:44
Since it seems to be working up the scale of 'donations'.
Harriet got stuffed for a couple of grand, Wendy gets caught out for 17k, when does Broon get his just rewards for the £680,000 (I believe that was the last figure in question) that is questionable to say the least?
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Mikey,

29/06/2008 10:02:33
Right up until the end, she's complaining that everybody else is to blame! Does she have no shame? Does her party have no shame?

Wendy, you broke the law and that's nothing to do with the SNP, it's all to do with you!

Will Liebore elect a non MSP as leader? Someone like Knowles? Will they admit that nobody in the SP is good enough? Watch this space!
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brownlie,

29/06/2008 10:03:55
66 Lizzie

Did you think that thought out by yourself. If I stop canvassing how can I ensure that those elected are susceptibe to our unionist's right to "under the radar" donations policies.
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Ubi,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 10:05:00
Cathy Jamieson please.
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Rob,

29/06/2008 10:13:50
I think everyone in Britain will enjoy this - another Brownite pressing the self destruct button. The wrath of the Great Commissar can only be imagined! However, in the real world it's a non event - but a wonderful illustration on how trivial Scottish politics and politicians are
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MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:16:41
Has anybody read that Labour press release badly disguising itself as the story the "the voters speak"?
They are trying to spin the story that the voters cant believe Wendy should have resigned and that nobody knows or cares about the scandals she is neck deep in.
They are trying to spin this resignation as an SNP political witch hunt.
The SNP would love if Wendy stayed and fought the next election like I said before only Labour benefits from Wendys resignation unless of course Foulky steps in.
Can this excuse for a politcal party get any more pathetic?
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jdships,

29/06/2008 10:26:12
As a non SNP/Labour voter I find this situation very interesting.
On one hand W A lashing out to blame anyone and everyone as being responsible for her demise.
Truth is she brought it on herself and she has been moved to the history books.
On the surface, at least, the SNP as a party appear to have done nothing wrong.
Therefore again this damages WA's crediblity.
As to her successor .
Well ! From the names being put forward as candidates there simply isn't one that I find " inspiring" .
"Tried and found guilty " springs to mind as far as Gray, Kerr, Curran and Jamieson are concerned.
Just can't imagine Labour regaining power in Scotland with one of that four at the helm.

Downhill all the way is a distinct possibility unless SNP shoot themselves in the foot .
Which isn't , I suppose, outwith the bounds of possibility.
With a referendum promised in 2010 there is ,methinks, an interesting couple of years ahead in Scottish politics.!!!!!!
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MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:27:39
Do you believe this sh*t "The voters speak"

"IF WENDY Alexander's decision to fall on her sword has sent shockwaves through Scottish politics, nobody appears to have told the people of Glasgow.



Voters in Scotland's largest city were largely indifferent and many appeared to be unaware of what she was supposed to have done wrong.

There was a lot of vague talk about donations and financial problems, but it seems that most people are too busy to concern themselves with the detailed findings of Holy-rood's standards committee.

"I don't think that most people are bothered one way or another about Wendy Alexander and her election donations," said Sandra Laughlan of Irvine.

But Linda McLaren of Dundee took little joy in Alexander being forced out: "The so-called scandal about expenses is no more than a petty storm in a teacup. I think she made a mistake, but I would like to have seen her fight on. I am not a fan of Alex Salmond and I would have preferred to see Wendy Alexander staying in office and holding him to account."

What a f*cking crock. When we achieve independence one of the first things we should prioritise is the setting up of a free and impartial press and media.
This rag is a disgrace and wouldnt look out of place calling itself The Labour Party Chronicle.
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MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:32:06
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There is always the possiblity that MI5 may assasinate AS and Swinney takes over that may halt the momentum but apart from that The SNP cabinet would have to get caught attending a devil worshiping human sacrifice coven by the media.
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eric,

29/06/2008 10:34:36
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James.com,

29/06/2008 10:40:56
The Labour Party has infiltrated the Establishment in Scotland over many years and the Media reflects that. It will take time for political positioning to change, but it will, and it is starting. Self preservation and circulation figures will see to it over time. The BBC will be last though!
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jdships,

29/06/2008 10:42:44
83 MisterN,Scotland

Never forget " seven days is a long time in politics "
Better politicians than A S have been caught out over the years !!

Statements like yours have a happy knack of coming back to haunt you.!!

As I have said many times before did not vote SNP but am more than happy to accept the democratic process and let them prove to me over the four year term that they are the right party to govern this country.
Nothing wrong in that is there ?
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MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:51:48
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Aye true enough even the smallest most insignificant indiscretion by the SNP can and will be blown out of all proportion by the unionist media which keeps them on their toes I hope?
Actually the more the media hounds them the better behaved they will be. Labour have almost complete control over the press and their behaviour reflects this fact so maybe its a good thing for the media to be on the SNPs case it actually makes them look good.
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b.allan,

alba 29/06/2008 10:52:38
goodbye and good riddance wendy lawbreaker! Labour: cheats, liars and traitors of Scotland. Her resignation speech showed all of the vitriol and bitterness she has become famous for. What a cheek blaming everyone else for HER misdemeanor!
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Arn av Gothia,

Gothia 29/06/2008 11:00:26
85 Spot on and thats where Scottish Labour have been for years trying to be part of the "establishment" If they had spent their time trying to help people not getting their media friends to lie to them they would be in better shape today
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Red Tower,

Dunoon 29/06/2008 11:05:20
As someone who was a Labour supporter for 36 years and quit as a result of the illegal war in Iraq I take a great deal of pleasure from Labour's turmoil. However I would like to see the same happen to the Tories as the bloody intervention into that country could not have taken place without robust Tory support.
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A Crofter,

Western Isles 29/06/2008 11:07:09
Was Bendy's £950 bung any worse than Stagecoach's £500K (which scuppered SNP's bus regulation plans) or 007's £30K (assuring free life membership of Trumptown Links)?

Time to shut Stonyrood down for good!
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Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 11:11:04
Following #81, Please please please let Bendy's successor be Jackie the Hutt with Lordy Ffoulks-Sake of Gorgie her No.2, or vice versa. ('No2' &'vice' not freudian slips) It would be a brilliant Custard-Pie Act and their monumentally inflated self-importance, if not their bloated carcasses, would keep the SNP Lions feasting for months!
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Jimmy the Pie,

29/06/2008 11:20:59
If I was to join New Labour Sleaze and Corruption would I get a vote in the forthcoming leadership election????

Who would I vote for??
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boudica,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 11:25:50
Now Wendy has gone over £950 ..Will Sturgeon go over her failure to step up infection control after the breakout in England her failure to do her job right cost lifes ?
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boudica,

29/06/2008 11:26:54
Now Wendy has gone over £950 ..Will Sturgeon go over her failure to step up infection control after the C-Diff breakout in England.... her failure to do her job right cost lifes ?
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Gill,

Blairgowrie 29/06/2008 11:27:54
Am I the only one who sees this as a bad day for the SNP? There will never be anyone as good as Wendy for their recruitment drive. Although Alastair Gray could be a close 2nd.

It would be just like Nu labour to replace a puppet with a muppet!
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whomthegodswishtodestroytheyfirstmakemad,

glasgow 29/06/2008 11:30:22
Come on Wendy leaving aside the plain fact that you sought advice over your dodgy donations only after the offence was complete ,why dont you tell us the exact terms in which your query was couched. After all the answer you get depends on what question was actually asked.
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Andrew Buchan,

Kincardineshire 29/06/2008 11:38:18
"Summer bloodbath"?

Bring it on!!
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MtnKat,

29/06/2008 11:50:31
Eddie,
Why are you disallowing comment on your love letter to Bendy?

I fail to understand why monies are required to 'campaign' for the leadership of the party. It's not as if the people concerned do not already know the 'candidates' well enough to gauge their qualifications and effectiveness (or lack thereof).
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Ananurhing,

29/06/2008 11:53:17
What really saddens me about this whole tawdry spectacle, is the amount of time, energy, talent and money that is wasted over something which would be a non issue in any other small country on the planet. Independence!

In the past week we've heard the head honcho of the WTO tell us (while refusing to be drawn on Scottish independence) that small countries are undoubtedly better placed to operate globally in the 21st C.

We've also had Iain Gray in the Hootsman trot out that old myth of Scotland being unable to survive on her own. Can he really be a serious Scottish Labour leadership contender after that?

As Wendy's brother said yesterday, she always put the interests of her party above all else, and it looks like nuslab are going to put up more of the same old same old tired out second rate candidates, who weren't good enough to hack it at westminster, and who's only policy is to ingratiate themselves to their betters and masters in London in the hope that they'll be invited to join the club.

Saor Alba??????????
Not with this bunch of deadbeat self serving incompetent lightweights nipping at our ankles.
It's time all right. Time to flush them away.
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

29/06/2008 11:58:52
Why such a fuss over the second party in Scotland ?

Labour are doing just fine for Scotland - showing that an independence for Scotland would lead to improvement and stability and a better day for her population.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 12:13:48
#20 Graeme Thomson
#21 Traquir

You're both wrong about the Holyrood electoral system. It is a lousy system. It privileges list MSPs over constituency MSPs.

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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 29/06/2008 12:18:34
There's a saying - When the going gets tough, the tough get going!

Little Wendy is obviously not as hard nosed as some of her political opponents and allied to her role as mum to young family I think the past few months finally took their sad toll on her health and well being.

Whoever Labour choses for Scotland won't make one iota worth of difference to their declining position down south as its the economy thats the main problem just now and that will be the same situation even if the chameleon Cameron got the keys to No 10 tomorrow. People need to take a more responsible approach to choosing their political leaders and short term populism has a habit of catching up come time as the SNP are also starting to find out. Now the Wendy distraction has gone lets see what else begins to unravel for them over the next few months as 44 extra police is a long way short from the 1000 (or was it just 500 plus another 500 "deployed" from somewhere who knows how, or was that an illusion as well????). They are guilty of an even bigger spin than New Labour ever were.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 12:20:01
#81 jdships

Sooner or later the SNP will shoot themselves in the foot. Parties always do.
They didn't cover themselves in glory on this one. Get a committee of list MSPs to recommend a suspension for one day knowing that the whole parliament is about to disappear for the summer and won't vote on the recommendation until autumn.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 12:23:31
#117 Liberal for Life

The Tories are doing even better in the south than you think. On Thursday this week there was a council by-election in Blackpool in one of Labour's safest wards. The Tories romped home getting twice as many votes as Labour. And Blackpool has two constituencies, both held by Labour with smallish majorities.
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Daveunderwater,

29/06/2008 12:30:30
Under starters orders

Andy Kerr

The East Kilbride MSP, 46, was a close ally of former ?rst minister Jack McConnell and served as health minister in his cabinet. He won the Scottish Politician of the Year award in 2006 for his work in introducing the smoking ban. He is currently shadow secretary for ?nance and public services after he chose not to stand against Alexander when McConnell stood down. He is not liked, though, by Gordon Brown. Odds: 1/4

Margaret Curran

Currently Labour’s health spokeswoman, the 49-year-old was praised for her efforts in tackling antisocial behaviour while she was deputy minister for justice. But she made political enemies during her time as the Labour party’s business manager in the Scottish parliament and is seen as a polarising ?gure by some. Odds: 11/4

Iain Gray

The favoured choice of the Brownies, the 51-year-old has worked as an adviser to the Scottish Of?ce under Alistair Darling. The East Lothian MSP was supportive of Henry McLeish and Wendy Alexander in past leadership elections. Popular with the party faithful, but a poor performance on Newsnight Scotland recently may count against him. Odds: 20/1

Cathey Jamieson

Stood in as leader when McConnell quit and will do so again over the summer recess. The former hard left Ayrshire MSP, unlike Alexander, performed well during first minister’s questions. A former justice minister, Jamieson, 51, is well-liked by grass-roots members of the party. Considered to be a safe pair of hands, but also widely considered to be more of a manager than a leader. Odds: 20/1

Patricia Ferguson

A former trade union official, the Maryhill MSP is seen as another outside bet for the job. On the left of the party, the former low-profile culture minister was also close to McConnell. She is married to fellow Labour MSP Bill Butler, who is active in the Campaign for Socialism pressure group. She is felt, however, to lack the charisma, drive and vision to lead Labour. Odds: 20/1

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Daveunderwater,

29/06/2008 12:31:12
Andy Kerr nap

Andy Knapp?
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The west awake,

Argyll 29/06/2008 12:33:56
"There is nowhere in Scotland that we want to fight an election at the moment,"

Open season on the Labour Party, with the SNP on "fire at will" mode against a party who run for the hills at the sight of a kilt.

Unthinkable only a few years ago. How my country has changed, and is continuing to change.
What a wonderful time.
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brownlie,

29/06/2008 12:34:42
118 Publius

Quite right - the committee of MSPs should have recommended that Wendy and her campaign team should receive commendations for proliferating brown paper envelopes and justice would have been seen to be done.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 12:46:41
#125 brownlie

You're missing it. The SNP (and the other parties) have followed a very bad procedure that Holyrood has taken from Westminster. It comes from the idea that Parliament is a club that determines who is in, who is out, who is suspended or expelled or whatever. If an MSP breaks the law, it should be for the courts to decide what to do, not Parliament.
As it is, it now looks as though the SNP (and others) have abused their position and hung their political opponents out to dry for the summer.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 12:50:55
PS to my #130

And what makes it worse is that most of the SNP MSPs involved are list MSPs - people put on a list by the party leaders.
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brownlie,

29/06/2008 12:56:13
130/131 Publius

Spot on - the MSPs, whether they list to the right or the left, should have sent out a clear message that politicians, unlike the general public, can break the law with impunity.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 13:01:22
#133; #134

I'm not defending Wendy. I'm saying that she should have been punished by the courts, not a linch mob of political opponents.
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MtnKat,

29/06/2008 13:04:04
130 Publius
The committee was 'bipartisan'.
It was not exclusively SNP.
Given the above, it seems that YOU are the one who is "missing the point".
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Radical Mac,

Poor Wendy 29/06/2008 13:15:36
Sadly she had to go she broke the rules the SSP members received harsher treatment than she. She is supposed to be one of the New Labour Young able highly intelligent types. I suspect in true Labour traidition she was set up by her own side. I will miss the Crazy Frog but we have not seen the last of her. Like Mandy Mandelson she will probably po up with a better job. The point is who from the Holyrood Labour B Team will replace her.
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Heather B,

Anstruther 29/06/2008 13:32:52
Sad day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KaHZRol6mg
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Wisnaeme,

29/06/2008 13:33:32
post 78.

Cathie Jamison has just been on the telly.

I'm not impressed. Beezness as usual, ah'm afraid.

This culture of avoidance by Labour really needs to improve. They're not really very good at it. Maybe some public gravitas is required for a course on how to do...whatever. Didn't they try that before with donations thingmiejig? Not very good at learning lessons are they? Pi$h poor material to work with, I suppose.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 13:55:47
#136; #137

Yes, the committee also included Tories who voted for the one day suspension...but that doesn't make the procedure less partisan. The Tories are not noticeably cleaner than Labour.

To hang someone out to dry for a summer is mean and vindictive. The committee knew this was what would happen. Could be it was a breach of human rights.

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yockel,

29/06/2008 14:00:45
If you look at Marshall's voting record he is just the sort of Labourite Scotland really needs rid of now and for ever. Will his going prevent inquiry into his allowances, that is the question.
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Mork the Orkan,

29/06/2008 14:10:41
This is poetic justice!

When Labour couldn't defeat the Tories on policy, or because the callibre of the Labour party officials is below the level of education and experience of the tories they invented sleaze.

Labour didn't care if they destroyed confidence in the parliament in the process or aliented the Government from their people. This serious relationship meant nothing to them, or rather if they couldn't have it, no-one could.

And so they invented "sleaze", a wooly term that has less legal ramifications than calling someone "corrupt".

Ten years on and now Labour aren't the only ones playing that game. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Bad for Scotland to half two teams of sh!t-stirrers at the helm, but there you go. Spite, hatred and dirty tricks is at the heart of our community these days anyway.
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European Scot,

29/06/2008 14:17:17
141 Publius

Ah yes Publius let's blame the SNP for Wendy Alexander's incompetence, for her lack of awareness, when sending a thank you letter to an off-shore donor, for funds that had been illegally accepted.
Her resignation was less than gracious, trying to blame the SNP for her position, for her downfall.
If she wants to find the person who is responsible for her misfortunes, who has placed her where she is, all she needs to do is look in her make-up mirror.
Let her reflect on that.
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Publius,

Girvan 29/06/2008 14:21:28
143 McMadman

I am not defending Wendy. In the past I have criticised her on this board.
The Labour Government at Westminster pushed through laws and rules about conduct, money raising etc. Wendy tried to circumvent them and came unstuck. (So did Peter Hain ... and others.) It is right that she should go, but the manner of her going - being pushed out by holier-than-thou other MSPs leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Heaven help the first SNP MSP who gets caught.
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Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 14:34:51
146 Publius-very much my thoughts on the matter!

145 European Scot-Hi ES!
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James.com,

29/06/2008 14:36:06
Not much coverage of the Marshall sleeze angle up here! Why?
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Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 14:38:40
146 Publius-so did Peter Hain" PH was the man many South African whites loved to hate in the bad old apartheid days but his demise is a great loss to the Labour Party. He would have been the one capable of reversing their fortunes!
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 29/06/2008 14:50:50
Labour's arrogance knows no bounds. Last week we saw Gordon Broon slaughtered and dumped into fifth place behind the Greens and the BNP. He just laughed it off saying "by elections come and by elections go". This morning we get Ken Livingstone on the Andrew Marr Show more-or-less saying that he would put Boris' mess right when he walks back into work at the London Mayor's office in 2012. Then we saw Bendy Wendy on Glen's Politics Show this morning blaming the SNP for her downfall. She's the woman who gives herself "10 out of 10" for her performance.

What a sham Labour is. Pray God the SNP slaughters them in the coming Glasgow by election.
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European Scot,

29/06/2008 15:01:00
147 Geoff

Good afternoon Geoff !

How is your Majesty today, you little Royalist you !
Here in Southern Spain it's hot and a little humid.
If Spain pull it off this evening, it's going to be pretty lively.
The testing of car horns and fireworks will feature heavily.
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Scottyboy007,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 15:12:49
Watch out for the Ex Cleansing man from Glasgow Andy Kerr making his bid. He is a totally PC man and all strategy and no substance.
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Strangelet,

Glesga 29/06/2008 15:16:10
23 Greame Thomson - "The SNP are now Labour's only real ideological arch-enemies"

Beg to differ here. The only difference between these two Thatcherite parties is on the national question. Other than the union/independence issue, they both lick capitalist butt. A pox on both their houses...
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brownlie,

29/06/2008 15:23:36
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Your last paragraph certainly seems to confirm your contention..
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 15:26:16
Once upon a time,

In Wendyland, Wendy is surrounded by poeple to blame for all her immature inadequacies. The bubble burst.

The end
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the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 29/06/2008 15:28:32
Wendy for Queen, she's innocent I tell ya.

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Thistledhu,

29/06/2008 15:44:57
So the years of pruneing and preening of wendy by the labour aristocracy has ended in disaster.
This is the net result of old labours arrogence meeting the reality of voters makeing choices.

Thankfully Scotland is now growing up and makeing its own choices.

Wendy Alexander as leader of the scotish labour party was a short lived comedy, imagine the tragedy of haveing her as first minister.
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yoric,

29/06/2008 16:05:51
Labour in Scotland does not have a leader.
Labour in Westminster, the UK Labour party has a leader who has destroyed his parties ratings in only 12 months, but won't step down.
If Brown care'd about the UK Labour party he would step down, but all Brown care's about is himself.

Labours in trouble.

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Bejjy,

29/06/2008 16:09:16
And when the English kick Brown and his cohorts Browne, Darling, et al out of Westminster they can return to Scotland to make a complete mess of the Scottish Labour Party as they have of the Labour Party in the UK.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 16:33:58
What's the betting that Simon Pia has already begun the first chapter on "Wendy's World, An Autobotbiography"?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 16:39:40
A chorus opener for a Holyrood rap.

Back to the backroom, baby
Back, back, back

Back to the backroom, baby
With your hacks
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 16:53:35
166, Ayrshire, thank you. What happened to the ™?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 16:59:29
ptdoug, why expose the mole? Wait until the job is complete. That way Slab will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their natural - which I hope is not long.
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Daveunderwater,

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Teletext (unbiased report)

Alexander move 'not biased'

Alex Salmond has hit back at claims that a "partisan" decision over donations had prompted Wendy Alexander to quit as Scottish Labour leader.

The Scottish First Minister instead suggested that Ms Alexander had been the victim of internal Labour politics.

When she resigned, she said she was the victim of a "partisan" decision by a Holyrood committee to suspend her for a day for failing to declare donations.
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Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:01:59
168, Ayrshire, and there was me thinking you had been moderated under Ayrshire Scot.
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Conan the Librarian™,

29/06/2008 17:18:32
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172
boud!ca.A really effective cure for an itchy sphincter.

Purchase shotgun.
Load shotgun.(No 6 or 7 shot.)
Grease barrel of shotgun.
Insert barrel into aforesaid sphincter.
Pull trigger.

You won't need a cream either:-)
Viola.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:21:37
175, Ayrshire, so you still have that e-mail address that I sent login details to, for, can't remember - please refresh my memory.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:27:43
177, Salem. Eh, think you'll find that the £950 pales into insignificance when you take her performance into consideration.

On the whole, Boudica, a thorough cleansing of the crop has been required for a long time.

Way past time.
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NBJT,

North Berwick 29/06/2008 17:27:46
How can anyone vote for the Labour Party, is beyond me.

They are run like the mafia and have outlived their sell by date.

They just cant get used to understanding that they are no longer the party of Scotland.

Wake up Labour before you start loosing deposits this side of the border as well!!!!!
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:30:07
Forgive me, Ayrshire, there are that many trolls out there.

Am I paranoid.

Answers to Wally Zander, please.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:41:39
184, fear not Meths (Liked your troll, Methsalion), I am made of reinforced putty.

Putty about that.

If I was a slab, I would ban laughter.

hhfh
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:43:33
185, Ayrshire, ask AMtwa the registration.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:46:01
187, Meths. Small point (cackle, cackle):

Shreek! is spelled shriek!
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Mist001,

Marseille 29/06/2008 17:46:07
You can't fault her sense of timing though, resigning the day before the summer holidays. Gives them plenty of time to sort a strategy before they reconvene!!

The SNP just seems to get stronger with every move that Labour make and I think Big 'Eck will have out thought them by that time.

I sort of compare it to the USA, they're on the cusp of having an Afro American as president which would be a major achievement in itself.

As for us Scottish people, we're on the cusp of having an independent Scotland.

Both these things are major political shifts and I find it to be very exciting times.

Michael.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:47:17
what was wrong with 185?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:50:20
I know AMtwa seems to be a Scotsman plant but is he also a protected species?

Doh. Think I've just answered my own question.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:54:44
194, Meths, reckon that'll take longer than you think it will. Alcheimers has reduced my spelling ability considerably.

That on top of the typos due to a combination of being a male, worn out lettering on the keyboard and being too damned lazy to install a spellchecher (cackle, cachle).......
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Nova ­Scotia,

29/06/2008 17:57:10
Oh for goodness sake.
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Nova ­Scotia,

29/06/2008 17:58:14
193. Good question.....
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29/06/2008 17:58:41
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 17:59:06
Here's betting that Meths is going for the 200.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 18:03:03
Well done, Nova Scotia, you beat me by 65 seconds. I thought Meths was going for it but I see now you were in there all the time.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 18:04:12
Doh. 25 seconds.
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Deiran,

29/06/2008 18:10:46
If Brown will not back any other candidate, perhaps he plans to stand in his own native land himself?
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Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 29/06/2008 18:12:54
RIP - Scottish Labour

Here lies the rotten corpse of the Scottsh Labour movement. Started by real men to help real people. hijacked by worms, weasels, snakes and scum.

They started with the people best interests and ended as champagne socialists soliciting money from any and all.

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Wee Fifer,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 18:14:09
As a former Labour voter who fits the profile of what a Labour voter should be if the party were up to the standard required, and as part of an ever-growing category of Scottish voters I think it should be commented on that the new leadership of the scottish labour party has a pretty tall order to try to turn things around. At the moment this challenge seems to me to be insurmountable. One of the 'front-runners', A. Kerr is off-putting in the extreme, all aggression and little substance, and behaves like a well dressed hack. I. Gray could put people to sleep and whines too much, C. Jamieson is repetitive and seems to lack any character. They all seem to share an astounding lack of vision for Scotland, and share a chronic lack of interest in or empathy with the problems of a swathe of citizens who remain excluded from the kind of society that Scotland has the potential to be. Why does the constitutency of Glasgow East look like that if Labour have been part of the political establishment for so long? I'm afraid that it is because the careerists of the Labour party have to take some of the blame for the fact that they have left those communities in the West of Scotland, and many others like them across the country, to rot. The reason they have no answers is that they do not see a problem in the first place. Labour hacks love constituencies like that where they vote in droves for Labour and there is a low turnout and those voters hitherto have been told that there is no other option, the choice being between misery and yet worse misery.
Now there is another option. The SNP have opened up the possibilities for some vision for the people of Scotland, particularly in the sense of giving a bit of hope to those marginal, excluded communities that have served up to now as voting fodder for Labour with little in return, fobbed off with a parliament that the labour party hoped would be little more powerful than Strathclyde regional council. Thye didn't count on the SNP coming
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Wee Fifer,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 18:14:54
Thye didn't count on the SNP coming up and showing the parliament could be used to its full potential, showing them up in the process. That's why the Labour party in Scotland are so furious - they've just been completely outclassed and everybody knows it. They are so obsessed by the union that they can't see what's on their own doorstep in places like Glasgow East and like wounded animals are wondering why they are being deserted.
The Scottish Labour party should know that their voter base has contracted, probably irreversibly. I and others like me will never vote for them again, no matter who their new leader is. Although I have some inkling that individuals such as Margaret Curran and Malcolm Chisolm mean very well, and understand what the Labour party is supposed to be for, the rot in the Labour party whereby the majority of its elite are machine politicians with no principles or ideological conviction of any sort is the most off-putting thing. This is something that will almost certainly be impossible for any new leader of the scottish labour party to sort out, even if it would be their their best intention. At this rate they haven't got a hope in hell of ever being the party that they were.
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 18:29:22
205 - dont think he'llend up at Holyrood. Mair likely the plush red benches beckon for the biographer of Jimmy Maxton
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 18:30:58
209 - red benches of the Hoose of Lords, that is !
curse o' the typos !
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Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 29/06/2008 18:31:48
208 - Wee fifer

i too once voted Labour although I have always been a supporter of independence. I hoped they would actually try to address the problems and bring leadership to the people but no, they just collected their money, talk down the country, wasted the opportunity of a global economic boom, gave into the the unions and created more jobs for the public sector.

I have now come to the realisation that the labour party in Scotland is just local government party players who climbed the slippery pole of scottish politics and lack any integrity. No energy. No drive. no f'cking idea.
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indune1,

Canada 29/06/2008 18:42:05

Meths! Spain? By what score?
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indune1,

29/06/2008 18:54:01
214 - Meths - Old magpie is quite fitting. Fractured my left ankle Friday night playing footie. Am sitting here, leg up, surrounded by cold beers. Only problem is getting to the loo!

SPain it is then. I predict Spain 3-1. I don't the H*ns can handle the SPanish speed and flair. Mind you, if the H*ns score first, down comes the garage door!

Hope you will be celebrating tonight.

Always good to hear from you. Cheers, Dunnie.

BTW - you watch, now that Wendy Bendy has resigned, the Hootsman will start to publish more flattering pikkies of Wendy.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/06/2008 19:02:13
206, Jock MacTamson2, would you mind if I suggested that the Slab had been taken over by worms, weasels and women?

I include males in that.
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A big boy dun it an ran away,

29/06/2008 19:06:11
Thare’s nae pleisur tae be had in leukin ower the clarti politiks that maks damn fuils oot o fowks scashin in Scotland
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Auckland Arab2,

29/06/2008 19:17:06
What a load of claptrap in these other related stories, where surprise surprise we are not permitted to comment. Eddie Barnes et al are a bunch of midgit poodles sniffing the ars*s of of the New Liebor project and then telling us that its all a storm in a teacup! Well if that's so, how come she has resigned? She has been found out as a vacuous bubblehead full of her own over bloated self importance. Let's hope Jackie Baillie replaces her - I'd like to see that fat balloon as their Scottish leader. Then they would truly have a leader they deserve!
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Carmichael, A.,

Scotland 29/06/2008 19:32:56
I feel confident enough to say that we can forget all this 'sleaze' nonsense that has haunted Wendy since she came to the leadership. She was caught, she was involved in political sleaze, and she took responsibility and expressed remorse but refused to accept the consequences. That, as far as I'm concerned is the beginning and end of it and so I don't think she needed to resign over her sleaze. She needed to resign because of her performances as an opposition leader.

Wendy failed because the aggressive and bullying unionism in Scotland, to which she subscribed, has failed. Wendy failed because the party for whom she toed the line is in the middle of failing to the point of falling apart. Wendy failed because the ideology behind Wendy has eventually failed and so it's time to move on and also from any successor that may come our way, their time is up and people in Scotland will no longer be the subjects to such aggressive unionism.

I only wish Wendy had enough grace and respect to go out with a level of dignity but her claims against Scottish institutions have dragged people in Scotland's institutions into the mess left by Labour and Labour alone. But, let's not cry over her spilt milk, let's move on and ensure the Labour party's aims of disillusioning Scotland from the politics of self-determination and equality cannot succeed. For too long Labour preyed on the politics of poverty and disenfranchisement. Perhaps Wendy's departure can mark the high-point of their tide against people in Scotland and from here on in something better can come about - just look toward Glasgow East as people in Scotland may not win, but it could put a darned good show against those who subscribe to the failed ideology of Wendy. 'Stop the World - Scotland wants to get on.'
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jdships,

29/06/2008 19:34:28
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Your reasoning seems just about right to me , for what that's worth !!
Like "Wendy" in Peter Pan she seems quite bewildered at what is going on around her !
Will be interesting to see who the first person is to "break cover" will be and name the one who ratted on her !
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Mike555,

29/06/2008 20:45:02
Why do we waste our time on useless Wendy when there is worse waiting in the wings to take her place i.e. Margaret Curran and Cathy Jamieson, 2 more useless bags of dross to disgrace our nation. Where do we get them??
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Hamish Scott,

29/06/2008 21:22:04
No comments allowed in the other 'articles' about this affair with some of the most disgraceful 'journalism' I have ever read. The Scotsman has reached new depths of lies and smears against our Government.
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Stirling Sentinel,

Stirling aka An English Voice 29/06/2008 21:54:55
Very amusing to read all the slagging comments about poor Wendy. Even more fun to watch all the pygmies squabble about taking her place. The main issue is to keep Scotland on the hop, both Labour and SNP, so that the Tories win the next election. Rule Britania!!!
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European Scot,

29/06/2008 22:04:12
227 Stirling Sentinel

Rule Britania !!!
Try Britannia, that's how it's actually written, as a rule !!!
May as well get it right for the History books.
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Arrow,

edinburgh 29/06/2008 22:04:19
i think that Wendy would only be able to find sympathy in the dictionary. somewhere between Sh*t and syphilis.
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working hard offshore,

aberdeen 29/06/2008 22:10:15
Has anyone considered that this could be fatal for the SNP? Wendy supported the independence referendum and any future labour leader will probably not.

Scotland's chance to be independent could be later rather than sooner.
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FedUpTaxPayer,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 23:11:22
As somebody who pretty much despises Labour (due to their unbelievable incompetence, waste, sleaze, lies, etc) I can't say I'm too unhappy with the fall of another leader.

We started off badly (with Dewer) and have went downhill ever since, but when you hit rock bottom but have to choose from an even worse pool for the next candidate I really do despair.

As much as I dislike them, I think its always important to have a strong opposition, to keep the government on their toes. With Labour, we have a bunch of half wits, who are simply not up to the task. Tragically, unlike in many jobs, you can't simply sack them for being useless.

Their incompetence does us no favours.
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Conan the Librarian™,

29/06/2008 23:27:54
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You have a good point fedup.
But the Labour opposition used to be the government in Scotland for 50 years.
When real talent, not London placeholders, turns up they are found...very...wanting.
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Matt there,

somewhere 29/06/2008 23:28:51
Poor sad, deluded Wendy!

She STILL can't grasp the fact that her misfortunes are, largely, of her own making!

I am surprised that she hasn't taken the Gordon Brown route and attempted to blame it all on Ma Thstcher!
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HEN BROON 5,

ALBA being held back by the UK 29/06/2008 23:30:25
http://tinyurl.com/2ucyys






Labour looking for a leader!!!!



ALBA GU BRATH.
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scotstoun_voter,

glasgow 29/06/2008 23:36:10
let me ponder the problems of labour.... well it started with crewe and nantwich a tory gain from lab then we had henley on thames lab lost deposit! now we have high commissioner jack off to malwai soon and dear old mr marshall going due to health (or is it something else) so 2 by elections in scotland then poor old wendy going as she broke the law yes the law so lab are disnintigration before our own eyes who would have though it was possible??
next we have roumour of a lab mp in scotland about to jump to snp??? anyone else hear this?? and the gossip of a well known scottish actress could be snp candidate in glasgow east?? lets see what happens to poor mr broon counting his last days in london.
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Thistledhu,

29/06/2008 23:43:22
How will the labour movement try and represent itself as a credible oppisition and political force?.

Ah the unions ?

strike
conflict
hardship

watch this space
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indune1,

29/06/2008 23:48:52
215 - Spook! LOL indeed! Must be the meds! How are ye?
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Thistledhu,

29/06/2008 23:57:55
I looked forward to jousting with AM2 over this subject (along with many) however some have chosen to be vindictive and smearing.

Free speech is hard won right easily lost.

Such acts are unfair unworthy of these posts and un Scotish.

Stop it

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FedUpTaxPayer,

Edinburgh 30/06/2008 00:01:10
#239 you're probably correct. With the Labour finances in a terrible state (and how surprised by that are we considering he countries...) and no sane person willing to give them any more money, it will be left to the unions to bail them out.

Of course, for this they'll want something in return...

I can easily see an autumn of discontent, with strikes and the like dragging us back to the uncompetitive days of the 70's.
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Buckfastleigh,

30/06/2008 00:52:39
Labour has done the outstanding job of ensuring that all those unpleasant and stuffy English expatriates that have chosen to live on their pensions in southern Spain, enjoy the benefits of not having been protected against the run on the pound by being in the Euro.

Watch them complaining of rising prices as their sterling pensions buys them one quarter less than what it got them last year.

Gordon you are a financial wizard: give us more of your famous "five tests" so that the pound will reach the Dollar's low levels and perhaps with luck end up with a commendable parity against that scary Zimbabwean cash. Eura star Gordon.

Prudence, more prudence and even more of it: ask yourself where next!
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boudica,

Glasgow 30/06/2008 06:28:20
107....Spook ... does that make it okay then ? and it wasnt Brown who decided to go to Iraq ..do you also suffer with short time memory loss ...since the demise of Hospitals hiring their own cleaners ..under Thatcher...also Doctors and Nurses failing to do the basics and whilst ignoring basic Hygiene ..such as wash their hands causes the biggest spread of infection ..Superbugs in hospitals have been a deadly problem and the fight against them and all the new strategies for fighting them have to be put into action as soon as and the Health Minister ignoring warnings is beyond the pale ...and bringing up past problems isnt an arguement it only shows how stupid you are ..
178 and 181 ...as I didnt make any comments on postings 178 and 181 ..I take it ..I have been cloned ...How sad are some people ..they really need to get a life ...but wee sad loners dont do real life ...
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State .... 30/06/2008 10:13:23
Is she still there ?? Awh..thank goodness she's gone. Isn't about time that politicians who take money without following the rules are taken to task.
It seems there is a law for the plebs and a law for those in areas of authority....Judges and policemen getting off with speeding and drunk driving, politicians getting off with fiddling the coffers and abusing the system...I'm glad that it was here in Scotland that a wee committeee stood up and did the right thing. A slap on the wrist for Wendy it might have been...I'd have given her a good kick on the backside personally.
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whomthegodswishtodestroytheyfirstmakemad,

Glasgow 30/06/2008 10:14:40
#252 I distinctly remember Gordon Brown being asked about the Invasion of Iraq in an interview on the hustings during the last election campaign. When specifically asked if he would have made the same decision as Blair to invade had he been PM at the time he replied without hesitation "Yes". The prosecution rests !
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Sedov,

Scotland 30/06/2008 12:31:49
The Labour melt down continues and even the mediocre SNP who have broken every election promise are made to look good against this lot. The candidates listed above are all in the failed mould of New Labour who are causing misery for working people and not one of them has any idea of how to change society for the better.Like the SNP they are all neo liberals ( cyrpto for social democrats) who think that the mixed economy will solve the present crisis of capitalism - No way - lets have a candidate who is prepared to go all the way and campaign for a bold socialist programme for Labour and Scotland - are the Campaign for Socialism group within the Scottish LP up to the job - lets hear from them now!
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State........Coatbridge 30/06/2008 13:58:33

I wonder if the Psychiatrist told her to chuck it ?
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Caora Dubh,

Eilean a' Cheò 30/06/2008 19:44:10
Why are so many people wasting so much time & energy on burying Labour? Let their own gravediggers do the job! The rest of us must dedicate ourselves to building a strong, dynamic country. We will need to work extremely hard if independence is to be viable. So let's drive safely down that road & stop worrying about the road-kill.
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Louis Davout,

Paris 30/06/2008 21:20:26
Caora Dubh
I do not understand your words here. Surely it is best to debate politics and not ignore. Debate allows you to express your fellings to the politicians so that they may change their way of thinking perhaps.
Non?
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Louis Davout,

Paris 30/06/2008 21:28:25
I must say that I feel it would be a shame to break the uk in to pieces. what is the saying united are strong and divided are fall? something like that for sure.
Britanias rule the wave. hurrah
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Richard Lionheart,

30/06/2008 23:20:46
Let’s face it.

Wendy wrote the rules.

Bendy Wendy BROKE the Rules

Bended Bendy Wendy doesn’t like the consequences.


Now, should a lawmaker, who can’t pay the penalty for breaking her own laws,
without sour grapes, really be an MSP?

Perhaps she should resign from Parliament NOW.

She is not above the law, even although she evidently believes she is.

Iain Gray for Scottish Labour leader!
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JohnBowes,

Glasgow 01/07/2008 12:37:52
The "Labour Party" is a misnomer. That parties connection to working class people was broken long ago. The party was hijacked by pretend socialists, pretend "workers" and general opportunists long ago.

It is now a middle class party. Yes, they will claim to be "workers" - aye, as per teachers and so on. Its a nonsense. How much money did Labour give to Doctors and teachers and other middle class groups?

How can anybody say that Trendy Wendy was a working class person? How daft can one get?

The Liberal Democrats and the SNP are more socialist with the policies than New Labour are.

The Labour Party should be renamed as the Middle Class Labour Party. REAL workers must NOW totally and UTTERLY destroy these people and that vomit inducing middle class party.

Also, a vote for Labour is a vote for Nepotism, cronyism and general sleaze buckets. Our children and grand children deserve better.

Over the next few weeks what will we hear? Yes, promises and pretense and more rubbish and embarassing tripe and so on. SURELY, we must say... NO MORE. The gravy train must be pulled away from these selfish and greedy people. Enough is enough eh? Do we really want more like Jackie Baillie and Middle Class Wendy? Our country deserves better eh?

 

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