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Salmond demands cuts in fuel duty and reductions in heating costs



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Published Date: 03 August 2008
ALEX Salmond has backed calls for a windfall tax on energy companies and said Gordon Brown should go further into the red in order to help ease the pain for taxpayers.
In a warning to the Prime Minister, Salmond will say today that cuts in fuel duty and reductions in heating costs are necessary to restore consumer confidence.

The Exchequer should pay for it by a one-off raid on energy firms and by breaking its
rules on borrowing to take more out of the bank.

Salmond says that in the last downturn in the early 90s the UK Government borrowed far more as it sought to pump up the ailing economy. He says Brown and Chancellor Alistair Darling should now do the same.

"In moral terms, Government cannot stand aside and watch families being driven into fuel poverty," he said.

He added: "I urge the Prime Minister to come out of his bunker and tackle the deflationary forces in the economy. Action must be taken to resurrect consumer confidence."

The call comes amid growing speculation that Brown will back a windfall tax on energy firms next month. Downing Street sources say the idea is being "discussed" as the Prime Minister seeks to seize the agenda with an economic recovery plan.

The focus on energy firms came after BP revealed it had made £4.3bn – almost £2m an hour – between April and June, and £6.75bn since the start of the year. Shell posted six-monthly profits of nearly £8bn.

There is also speculation that Brown will tear up his Golden Rule on borrowing by funding further tax cuts this autumn. The Government had committed itself to keeping borrowing below 40% of GDP but that may now be scrapped in a bid to find extra funds. A 1% rise would give Brown and Darling a further £ 14 billion to push into tax cuts.

Salmond drew a parallel between the borrowing in 1992 when the UK economy was last in trouble.

"There is room for manoeuvre in fiscal policy and a substantial economic boost is necessary. For example, the net borrowing forecast for this year was £43bn. The equivalent figure in the last downturn in 1992/93 was £68.2bn," he said.

Salmond is also calling for specific measures in Scotland, including a demand for the UK Treasury to allocate a share of its North Sea oil revenues.

The First Minister said: "The biggest windfall gainer offshore is the Chancellor himself whose oil revenues are heading for £15bn in the current financial year."

But one of the contenders for the vacant Holyrood Labour leader post, Cathy Jamieson, hit out at Salmond last night over what she described as his "megaphone diplomacy".

She, too, is calling for a windfall tax on energy firms. "It's time that the SNP played their part in supporting under-pressure Scots. Co-operation is the way forward for Scotland, not conflict for conflict's sake.

"Salmond's megaphone diplomacy will not make any Scottish home warmer or greener," she said.

Jamieson said the SNP Government should end means testing of elderly people who are applying for central heating systems.

Salmond is preparing a major speech for later this month on the challenges facing the Scottish economy.

However, the First Minister insists that the economy in Scotland is better placed than the rest of the UK to withstand the tough times.

He points to the fact that growth in Scotland has matched or surpassed that of the UK in each of the last three quarters. Employment rates are also higher and while house prices in England and Wales are tumbling, recent figures suggest that they are continuing to rise slowly in Scotland.

Salmond added: "Scotland has proved more resistant to financial pressures than other parts of the UK. However, with deflationary forces becoming stronger by the day, Scotland is not immune to the economic downturn."





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  • Last Updated: 02 August 2008 7:06 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 02/08/2008 23:57:21
So let me get this straight...

There’s a global downturn. Everyone right across the whole UK is being affected by higher fuel and food prices.

But, as Alex Salmond acknowledges, Scotland is coping better than the rest of the country. We have stronger GDP growth, lower unemployment, more resilient property prices, higher earnings growth, and so on.

Yet Salmond is calling for oil revenues to be diverted to Scotland – without demanding that Scotland stops benefiting from revenues generated elsewhere across Britain, I note.

In so doing, he is essentially demanding that people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland be made to suffer even more.

Is this really “standing up for Scotland”? Or is it just what Rabindranath Tagore called “the organized selfishness of Nationalism”? I suspect the latter.
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truthsleuth,

03/08/2008 00:38:16
If Scotland had independance and got its hands on 'Scottish Oil' I wonder whether Salmond would be shouting quite as loud.

Empty Kettles!!!
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Senga Jean,

03/08/2008 00:42:17
Yes! Alex Salmond and the SNP must be on the correct path given the weak insular and degenerate comments so far. Scotland deserves better and the SNP are fighting for our betterment!
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Jwil,

03/08/2008 00:51:40
Labour are disintegrating before our very eyes.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 03/08/2008 00:57:17
#2, 4.

You should never have taken up your appointments with NuLab's psychologist.
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Traquir , Alba,

03/08/2008 01:18:21
1 AM2, Scotland

"Salmond is calling for oil revenues to be diverted to Scotland"

Nope not divert - repatriate Scotland's oil revenues.
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somerferg,

perth 03/08/2008 04:29:38

#15 - sad, pathetic little person. Go get a life and stop showing yourself up.
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John S,

03/08/2008 06:40:00
Cathy Jamieson, hit out at Salmond last night over what she described as his "megaphone diplomacy".
Cathy haven't you heard that the Scottish Government including our FM and the Scottish Parliament have the unquestionable right, and indeed the (moral) duty, to express themselves on any issue that concerns the welfare of the people and to make representations where such are required.
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Linda,

Edinburgh 03/08/2008 08:29:14
# 10 posting by Traquir Alba is spot on.

This should be published in every newspaper once a week for the next 5 years to counteract the decades of lies we have been subjected to over oil revenues.
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bluehead,

edinburgh 03/08/2008 08:35:51
how much longer do the people of this country have to suffer this abominable labour goverment,the people cannot help but be totally ashamed of them,I have never seen a more useless mob,these extortionate price increases are the last straw.
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sm753,

03/08/2008 09:46:53
Shall we get back on topic?

The windfall tax bandwagon is well under way, it seems.

Now who are we going to tax?

The utilities? All they do is buy gas from upstream, burn some to make power, and pass it on. They've had no windfall. (Centrica's bit of upstream excluded.) (Oh, the one power company to have a bit of a windfall is poor old harassed British Energy, as their costs have stayed flat while prices have gone up. Ooops.)

The oil companies? Tax them and they'll instantly reduce investment. North Sea decline accelerates.

Interesting.
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Alamo,

Glasgow 03/08/2008 10:15:32
I don't know what to do this coming winter.

Eat or heat ? Can't do both.
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subrosa,

03/08/2008 10:17:00
I really think it wouldn't be a good idea for the SNP to accept labour defectors. They should stick with their faithful team and not allow labour 'ethics' to infiltrate their ranks.

To be blunt, nobody from labour is good enough for the SNP.
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Boggle fey the Bog,

03/08/2008 10:24:19
23 sm753,03/08/2008 09:46:53

No rationale for your hypothesis.
Taxing 'oil companies' for excessive profits won't reduce 'investment in the North Sea Oilfields', quite the contrary may be the case.

Logically, if a company wishes to pay dividends to it's shareholders, and that is their raison d'etre, then they must 'produce' an after tax profit.

So to increase that 'profit', they can do a few things, cut costs, increase price, or increase throughput on a lower %age, but giving an overall increase in actual 'money profit', the third option gives an increase in product flow and financial income, and can increase the liquidity of the business due to the larger amounts of 'cash' turning over.

In the last analysis, businesses are there to make a 'profit' , but the balancing act is to make an acceptable 'profit' as opposed to a perceived 'profiteering' profit, which is the case with the banks and energy companies, their profits are perceived by the 'public' as being 'excessive'.

Hence the not unjustified backlash against them.

Having said all that, AS is right, the government can actually, help to reduce inflation, and inflationary pressure, by scrapping VAT on domestic fuel, using the powers of 'price control' that they already have in OfGen (or whatever they are calling nowadays) and reducing Road Fuel Tax for operators.

On the point of price regulation, let us consider the Energy companies, who over a sustained period of time were allowed to increase the cost of Gas and Electric , to the consumer, by inflation plus 10%, apparently to give them 'money' to invest.

I ask the question, Where is this investment, Centrica have been culpable by not increasing the gas storage levels, and PowerGen/NationalGrid, have been culpable for not building new non-oil or gas depended generating stations.

The only problem with a windfall tax is, where this Nu Labour/Owld Torie government would actually spend it!!

Better that they forced the energy companies
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Boggle fey the Bog,

03/08/2008 10:26:46
cont from #26

Better that they forced the energy companies to reduce their prices to the poorest domestic consumers by an amount equal to any proposed level of 'windfall tax'.
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puskas,

East kilbride 03/08/2008 10:33:26
No 22 AJ fife.. Good advice..

For a bit of fun I read the submission's especially on a Sunday. Better than Oor Wullie and The Broons..

Unless of course its G. Broon..

The imploding of The British Labour Party will have resounding effects across all other parties in Scotland.
I refer also to the LibDems at this time.

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AJ Fife,

03/08/2008 10:44:30
Puskas,

It's a good time for politics, that's for sure!

My post at #22 didn't last long today! I wonder what the problem was? Maybe AM2 is on the defensive......AGAIN!!!!
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brownlie,

03/08/2008 11:02:03
27 IWM

You should pay more attention to AM2's briefing before posting or we unionists will be seen as being divided in much the same way as the Labour party appears to be.

AM2 claims the Scottish economy is coping well but you claim that it is "ailing". Much as I respect the two of you, you cannot both be correct.
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brownlie,

03/08/2008 11:03:13
27 IWM

You should pay more attention to AM2's briefing before posting or we unionists will be seen as being divided in much the same way as the Labour party appears to be.

AM2 claims the Scottish economy is coping well but you claim that it is "ailing". Much as I respect the two of you, you cannot both be correct.
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brownlie,

03/08/2008 11:03:15
27 IWM

You should pay more attention to AM2's briefing before posting or we unionists will be seen as being divided in much the same way as the Labour party appears to be.

AM2 claims the Scottish economy is coping well but you claim that it is "ailing". Much as I respect the two of you, you cannot both be correct.
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brownlie,

03/08/2008 11:07:09
Sorry about the triple posting - it wassnae me!
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Miss H,

03/08/2008 11:24:01
Nowhere in the article does Salmond call for oil revenues to be diverted to Scotland. He calls for a share of oil revenues to be allocated to Scotland.

If that happened there would be cross party support to allocate that money to relieving fuel poverty, there is no doubt about that because everyone knows how serious the impact of price rises is going to be this winter.

AM2 accuses the SNP of being selfish but what is truly selfish is to pass the responsibility to Westminster to deal with this problem. When people die because they cannot afford to heat their homes - and they will die if nothing is done - we can all just blame Gordon Brown and Westminster. Not our responsibility is it?

The unselfishness of Pontius Pilate springs to mind.
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brownlie,

03/08/2008 11:26:19
35 IWM

The reason most people wish to remain in the union is that, like you, they remain to be convinced on independence. One reason for that, I would suggest, is the negativity displayed by unionist posters and politicians and propogated by the main-stream media.
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The Spook in Leith,

03/08/2008 11:41:04
#37 brownlie

"One reason for that, I would suggest, is the negativity displayed by unionist posters and politicians and propogated by the main-stream media."

"negativity" lmao, oooer thats that word again, the one that you would never find in the Labour vocabulary, tick tock, lol
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dido-bendigo,

Scotland 03/08/2008 11:43:27
Stopping the gift of tax payers money to the onshore windfarmers by way of 'Renewables Obligation Certificates' (ROCs) would save a bob or two and cut the price of electricity in the long run. But then again, Alex might lose his 'Sainthood' status in the Renewables Fellowship.
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Rasco,

Inverness 03/08/2008 11:43:44
Everyone should read the article in the Sunday Post by Lesley Riddoch "Rise in fuel price is sure to kill this winter" AM2 will have some snide comment to make about it I suppose.
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"Hoots" Fandango,

03/08/2008 11:47:40
"Salmond demands cuts in fuel duty" says the headline.
I can't find this in the article. It does say

1 ALEX Salmond has backed calls

2 Salmond WILL say today

3 I urge the Prime Minister

This newspaper is a bit silly.
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The Spook in Leith,

03/08/2008 11:51:54
#41 "Hoots" Fandango

It is called (selective journalism) at its lowest ebb
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Anagol,

Edinburgh 03/08/2008 11:56:34
First Minister Salmond will go on spelling out what needs to be done to protect the elderly and other vulnerable groups against the rapidly increasing cost of keeping warm and indeed alive through the winter. The Labour UK government's response will be inadequate, and people will see again that it is the SNP that can and will protect them and that the constitutional framework within which that can be done most effectively is the one advocated by the SNP.

When winter comes and unprecedentedly high utility bills follow in the spring together with uncomfortably high food prices, enough of what remains of Labour's core support in Scotland will melt away like snow off a dyke to give the SNP the electoral support that it needs to move Scotland forward.

A new economic era and a new political era in Scotland are dawning at one and the same time.
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"Hoots" Fandango,

03/08/2008 12:13:30
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I for one have no idea, but whatever it is, it's surely better than Darling's "put on another jumper."

Labour, LibDem & Tories are ALSO asking for a windfall tax. The cabinet is considering it.
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Horrigan54,

Tolsta 03/08/2008 12:43:16
AM2

I think you better realise that Scottish oil revenues should be, and should always been, coming to Scotland rather than feeding the coffers in London! Scotland has the highest fuel prices in the world - and yet we have one of Europes largest oil reserves off our coast!

Londons theft of our oil is the biggest case of international larceny since the Spanish took the Inca gold.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 03/08/2008 18:46:31
Any windfall tax should result in a direct saving to the customer. Other wise it will just disappear into the maw of the exchequer. Ideas that the Chancellor will then somehow compensate the consumer in some other way is just pie in the sky, no?

Shortly after the 35% price increase from British Gas the massive profits; shortly after that a further attempt to erode the UK's ability to control its own energy future by attempting to sell our British Energy share to EDF. For the short-term advantage of more funds to Gordon & co and his brother in EDF and the long-term disadvantage of the UK consumer.

Slamond's efforts to get the UK gov to borrow more just misses the point - that we have to get back and retain control of our strategic energy reserves and consumption to avoid these stupid increases and to ensure we have control of sensible energy production e.g. nuclear as well as coal, gas and renewables.

Both the UK gov and Scottish Parliament seem to be all at sea with this and need to get a grip - fast.

Apart from old people dying this winter from lack of heat and fear of paying these bills there is also the spectre of inflation fuelled by entirely avoidable stupidities.
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Matt there,

somewhere 03/08/2008 22:35:19
truthsleuth, if Scotland had its independence, why would Mr Salmond have to shout?

You do not REALLY understand this big boys concept of debate, do you?
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03/08/2008 22:57:09
Reduce the Speed limit to 55mph....That will cut fuel bills, reduce the cost of living, save lives, Save the NHS millions, reduce the cost of road repairs and of course go some way to helping us meet Government targets on Greenhouse gas emissions.

The downside is that people who travel to work by car, and have 20miles worth of 70mph limit (open) road in their route....Would have to leave the house THREE AND A HALF min earlier....Bummer eh?

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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 03/08/2008 23:13:41
#1 Am2 To answer your question, yes that is standing up for Scotland. Next question.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 03/08/2008 23:24:11
#44 The beauty of it is that the SNP do not have the powers to reduce those costs, so they can sit back and watch Brown dig his own grave. He is dead, standing in his own grave.
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Allan(handofgod137),

04/08/2008 02:04:30
Just take vat off all fuel.
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shivago8,

livingston 04/08/2008 09:09:42
Well done Alex,keep it up, that is why you are the first minister for Scotland.
Get it up the westminster lot
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Rufus T. Firefly,

04/08/2008 09:25:53
A windfall tax would end up being counter productive.

All the pension funds would suffer which would have a direct effect on the people that were meant to be helped by this move.

Secondly companies like BP could very easily move their Headquarters abroad thus depriving the UK of all future tax revenues.

Extremely short term gains would surely be followed by much more long term pain.
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Alan B,

04/08/2008 09:57:39
Brown has made a mess of the economy. The basics are to ensure you run a tight fiscal policy when times are good ie run a balanced budget over the economic cycle or a small deficit. Not run huge deficits when economic times are relatively good and then have little room for manovre when the economy hits a downturn.

If brown had runner a tigher fiscal policy like the first 2yrs of his chancellorship then he could have easily passed on the windfall tax revenues he is making from the high oil prices (and more) thus protecting the consumer from high petrol prices (much of which is tax anyway) and the other goods that are effected by high transport costs.
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Alan B,

04/08/2008 10:05:48
#AM2

"Yet Salmond is calling for oil revenues to be diverted to Scotland – without demanding that Scotland stops benefiting from revenues generated elsewhere across Britain, I note."

Even u know that is not true. Salmond has been calling for fiscal autonomy for a long time.

What he is saying here is the uk as a whole are benefiting fiscally from a big tax windfall with high oil prices. Oil which is largely a scottish resource and hence contribution to the uk finances. However scotland is not seeing any of that windfall. He wants a share of the windfall to go to scotland.

Salmonds position is completely consistent with wanting scotland to control scotlands tax and expenditure.

That is really the problem with your position. No matter what comes out from the scottish government to scotland benefit you will take the opposing view.

You just have to look at the comments coming from labour during their leadership campaign to see how labour in scotland were not allowed to introduce policies they wanted due to how it may play for an english electrate. That this has now come out publicly shows that the union cannot last in its current form.
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Alan B,

04/08/2008 10:08:55
#Rufus T. Firefly

The underlying issue is if the costs of energy companies are going up through the roof then they should be suffering lower profits. However we have the ridiculous state of affairs of companies having windfall profits when their cost are rising.

It does suggest anti competitive pricing.

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cataibh,

over the Struie 04/08/2008 10:57:29
35# Tell me did the majority of Scottish people vote for the union in 1707?
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cataibh,

over the Struie 04/08/2008 10:57:30
35# Tell me did the majority of Scottish people vote for the union in 1707?
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democracy,

Scottish Borders 04/08/2008 13:00:59
#23 sm753 says: The oil companies? Tax them and they'll instantly reduce investment. North Sea decline accelerates. Interesting.

WRONG, Investment in the North sea will never deplete because of taxation, because there is far too much to gain for the investors to pull out!

sm753 has much to learn about making profits.

Big Business NEVER cuts off its nose to spite its face!
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The Sprucer,

04/08/2008 14:02:49

AM2!

Rabindranath Tagore - Bore! And I don't care if he is a Nobel Prize winner his prose is dreary indeed.
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