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Brown condemns Zimbabwe violence



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Published Date: 22 June 2008
ZIMBABWE'S presidential run-off election hung in the balance last night as Gordon Brown condemned "those orchestrating the latest horrific escalation of violence".
The opposition Movement for Democratic Change is expected to decide in the next 24 hours whether to pull out of Friday's vote amid a wave of violence and killings by President Robert Mugabe's regime.

Last night the Prime Minister said those behind the brutality "must immediately end the violence, allow local and international monitors complete access and cooperate with the UN to allow a full investigation of the human rights abuses".

Meanwhile, the High Court in Harare overturned a police ban on the opposition party's main pre-election rally scheduled for today at Harare's showground, opposition spokesman Nelson Chamisa said.

MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai said last week that a "wave of brutality" has swept Zimbabwe since the run-off was called. His message was distributed by e-mail, one of the few ways he has of reaching voters.

Chamisa said: "There is a huge avalanche of calls and pressure from supporters across the country, especially in the rural areas, not to accept to be participants in this charade."

Mugabe has vowed never to hand over power to Tsvangirai, despite signs of growing African discontent over bloodshed that has escalated since Zimbabwe's March 29 general election, which the MDC won, but not by an outright majority.

Angola's veteran leader added his weight to appeals to Zimbabwe's government to stop their tactics.

President Jose Eduardo dos Santos, an old ally of Mugabe, sent a message urging him to "embrace a spirit of tolerance".

Mugabe yesterday accused the Zimbabwe opposition of lying over political violence to justify claims that this week's presidential run-off vote will not be free and fair.

Mugabe said the MDC was compiling names of alleged victims and falsely claiming their supporters were being beaten up.

"They say this so that they can later say the elections were not free and fair, which is a damn lie," the state Herald newspaper quoted him as saying at a campaign rally in the western city of Bulawayo.

Endgame of evil: the five election scenarios that will make or break Zimbabwe

Movement for Democratic Change supporters dance while campaigning
Movement for Democratic Change supporters dance while campaigning
Kevin Kane in Johannesburg


ROBERT Mugabe has launched a campaign of murder, mayhem and persecution ahead of this week's Zimbabwe run-off presidential election. He is trying to remain head of state after 28 years in power, having brought his country to the brink of total destruction.

So how will the Zimbabwe tragedy develop? Here we examine five possible scenarios.

Scenario One

The people go to the polls and Morgan Tsvangirai, the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) candidate, who won the first round of the presidential election on March 29, achieves a clean, clear win on Friday. This should be possible because many human rights activists in Zimbabwe doubt that Mugabe would win even 20% of the vote in a free and fair election.

There is a swift transition to a completely new government and reconstruction follows. The international community has promised massive aid to help Tsvangirai, his party and society put the country back on its feet. Nearly four million Zimbabweans, including the brightest and the best, have fled Mugabe's oppression into exile. They return and contribute to the reconstruction process. Many people are confident that Zimbabwe, with rich natural resources and whose agriculture once fed Africa, could begin a steady recovery.

This is the most desirable but most unlikely outcome. Two days ago Mugabe harangued a meeting of remaining Zimbabwean businessmen and told them: "Only God, who appointed me, will remove me – not the MDC, not the British. The MDC will never be allowed to rule this country – never ever."

Scenario Two

Mugabe, who has already all but declared civil war on his own people with acts of murder and violence, intensifies the intimidation and ballot rigging and emerges victorious after the vote on June 27.

To achieve a "democratic" victory Mugabe will have the unflinching support of his top security force officers in the Joint Operations Command (JOC), the military junta that effectively runs Zimbabwe.

The most powerful figures on the JOC, headed by armed forces chief General Constantine Chiwenga, will protect the businesses and farms they have stolen and looted and resist change because of the many human rights crimes they could be charged with under a new government.

Commander of the prison service General Paradzai Zimondi has ordered his prison employees to vote for Mugabe or face dismissal.

National police chief Commissioner Augustine Chihuri, who has publicly vowed that he will never allow Tsvangirai and the MDC to take power, said last week: "The MDC is the main culprit in the political violence that we are currently witnessing in the country." Despite that comment, not one ZANU-PF supporter has been killed since the first round of elections on March 29. Police officers have been deployed to war veteran and militia units who are in the forefront of the attacks on opposition supporters.

Chihuri has warned the MDC that "all necessary force" will be used against its supporters in the coming week. "We will not allow puppets of the British (Mugabe's way of depicting the MDC] to take charge," he said.

Ian Makone, the national election director for the MDC, and one of Chihuri's top targets, is in hiding and works only at night. To find out where he was, Chihuri's police-led militias abducted his campaign manager Ken Nyeve, security guard Godfrey Kauzani and his wife's driver Better Chokururama and tortured them with knives and screwdrivers. When their bodies were recovered, their eyes were gouged out and their faces burned off.

A victory in such circumstances for Mugabe is a highly likely outcome, although the ballot rigging will have to be on a massive scale.

Scenario Three

The next scenario predicts that after assessing the government's sweeping violence, the MDC decides not to contest Friday's election. An MDC spokesman, Nelson Chamisa, said late last week: "There is a huge avalanche of calls and pressure from supporters across the country, especially in the rural areas, not to accept to be participants in this charade."

Heavy pressure is also coming from a wide variety of people with vested interests for Tsvangirai to pull out of the election and enter a government of national unity with Mugabe.

Prime among these is the heavily discredited South African president, Thabo Mbeki, whose eight years of "quiet diplomacy" on Zimbabwe have so far failed to produce a positive outcome.

Last week, the MDC's deputy leader Tendai Biti returned home from South Africa to Zimbabwe with Mbeki telling him he had assurances from Mugabe that he would not be detained. On arrival, Chihuri's police arrested Biti, charged him with treason, which carries the death penalty, by subverting the ZANU-PF government and "projecting the president (Mugabe] as an evil man". Biti was refused bail and will remain in prison until he is brought to trial.

However, Tsvangirai has told supporters: "Withdrawing will not solve anything." The message he is sending ahead of an MDC meeting to decide what to do is that they must be brave in the face of the government's violence and intimidation and vote to sweep away Mugabe and his generals.

Neither will Tsvangirai succumb to pressure from Mbeki and others to enter a government of national unity, with Mugabe continuing as president and the MDC leader becoming prime minister.

Mbeki, southern African heads of state and the international community have already ignored and silenced the democratic voice of the Zimbabwean people by their tardy reaction to the rigged election of March 29, said leading MDC politician Grace Kwinjeh last week. Kwinjeh, who has been detained and tortured many times by Chihuri's police thugs, added: "As a consequence, the MDC's hard-won legitimate authority has been erased and the way has been opened for ZANU-PF to recover by the bullet what it lost at the ballot box.

"War is not something to be prevented by a government of national unity. It is here already.

"The MDC and its supporters are wary of legitimising the political role of those holding the gun to their heads and the torch to their homes. A government of national unity would merely enable Mugabe and his party to climb out of the hole of electoral defeat."

Scenario Four

A remarkable change on the African political scene has occurred in the past few days. Several African heads of state, alarmed by the damage to their own country's reputations and economies by Mugabe's oppressive policies, have begun speaking out strongly against the continuation of ZANU-PF rule.

Leading the Africans is Seretse Ian Khama, the newly elected president of Botswana, Zimbabwe's neighbour to the west, who last week became the first African leader to make an official government protest against Mugabe's reign of terror.

Khama summoned Zimbabwe's high commissioner in Gaborone, the Botswana capital, and told him Mugabe was violating protocols of the 14-member Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) on the holding of free and fair elections. In a statement, 54-year-old Khama, said: "The repeated arrests and detentions are unacceptable and deserve condemnation, as they violate the principles and objectives of the SADC treaty." Khama said he was "deeply disturbed" by Mugabe's politically-motivated arrests which were "alarming and unacceptable".

This was strong language from a member of the African leaders' club who, when under pressure in connection with human rights abuses, have historically supported each other.

Khama's outspokenness emboldened others – Zambian president and SADC chairman Levy Mwanawasa, Tanzanian president and African Union chairman Jikaya Kikwete and Kenyan prime minister Raila Odinga – to describe the crisis in Zimbabwe as everything from an "eyesore" to a "disgrace".

Odinga called on the international community to demand that Mugabe steps down, calling the run-off vote a "sham". Nigerian president Umaru Yar'Adua also condemned Mugabe for disregarding the rule of the law and blasted him for his brutal treatment of the opposition and critics.

Rwandan president Paul Kagame joined these former allies of Zimbabwe's head of state and heaped scorn on Mugabe for vowing not to surrender power if beaten. In a news conference in Kigali, Kagame blamed Zimbabwe's woes on the failure by African leaders to address the country's problems, and added: "The whole thing is a joke. I am saying this because of what is obviously a serious problem in Zimbabwe."

The new anger of Africa's leaders has enabled the West, with the United States as outspoken point man and supported by the European Union, Britain, Australia and a coalition of other countries, to formulate a strategy, encompassing African allies, to oust Mugabe.

This strategy, including strong international sanctions, will become ever clearer in the next few days and will be aimed at neutralising Mbeki, whose South Africa provides Zimbabwe with electricity, oil and other essential supplies. This scenario is almost certainly the one that will eventually be Mugabe's downfall, but long after June 27.

Scenario Five

The final scenario takes note of the many people praying, like the former Roman Catholic Archbishop of Bulawayo, Pius Ncube, that "the Lord will soon take Mugabe away. He's a fascist, a fraudster, a liar and a godless murderer. Everyone is fed up with him. We're all hoping against hope that something will happen. He's a very, very evil man. The sooner he dies the better."

Mugabe may now be claiming that God appointed him as president, not the Zimbabwe people, but as the Greek dramatist Euripides observed 2,500 years ago: "Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

The full article contains 1933 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

albanman,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 00:38:21
So Mugabe thinks that God chose him to be president? Jesus wept.
2

Paddi,

22/06/2008 00:45:47
So where is the commitment from the west to get rid of this tryant and despot?
3

Rasco,

Inverness 22/06/2008 01:00:36
No weapons of mass destruction,no oil so Broon can spout off as much as he likes but at the end of the day he nor G Bush will do nothing just a bunch of hypocrites they are.
4

Symmachus,

Colonia Tirania 22/06/2008 02:06:50
Ave,

Unelected Brown, who willfully ignores the Irish rejection, the French rejection, the Dutch rejection and is too scared to hold either a referendum or elction here, because he'll be rejected too - telling off Robert Mugabe?? Mugabe got more votes than Brown, and just like the EU keeps re-running elctions until he gets the right result. Plus ca change
5

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 22/06/2008 06:15:24
When is the Pope going to speak out about this abomination? It would also help!

The sooner Mbeki departs and is replaced by a leader who can think rationally the better.
6

madrab,

22/06/2008 08:05:03
If Gordon Brown likes democracy so much, why doesn't he call a general election and give us the chance to choose our new Prime Minister?
7

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 08:26:53
#5 and #7

Beat me to it. For all his madness, at least Comrade Bob knows he has to at least going through the motions of holding an election / referendum. So unlike our own Dear Leader. And as for being appointed by God, I suspect the Almighty came to Bottler in a vision when he was but a child. He certainly thought it was his God-given right to be PM.
8

albanman,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 08:55:30
Good grief, the article is about Zimbabwe and Mugabe, not Gordon Brown. Get off your soap boxes, you lot.

No.6 El Sabio: Benedict has expressed concern regarding the situation in Zimbabwe, but Mugabe doesn't care. Robert Ndlovu, the Catholic Archbishop of Harare, has been threatened with imprisonment and "...might just disappear.." (to quote Mugabe) for speaking out against corruption and violence. Mugabe doesn't give a hoot about what the pope says; Mugabe's not a Catholic anyway....he may well claim to be Christian (I don't know), but he certainly doesn't live according to the teachings of Christ.

It's a tragedy what is happening in that beautiful country. Most of the leaders of nations African continue to remain silent, and those of the 'West' are accused of racism when they speak; but then again, Zimbabwe doesn't have oil and is not stragetically placed in a political sense so of course the 'West' will do nothing
9

Mashimaro,

China 22/06/2008 08:59:02
"STOP!" he screams, "OR I'LL SAY STOP AGAIN!"
10

Mashimaro,

China 22/06/2008 09:00:04
#2 It's interesting to note that the world's most successful leaders all seem to believe they were chosen by God
11

jdships,

22/06/2008 09:00:44
4 Rasco,Inverness


Agree totally !
"must immediately end the violence, allow local and international monitors complete access and cooperate with the UN to allow a full investigation of the human rights abuses".

Just pointless rhetoric from a "one trick pony" politician .
Mugabe has raped a country which a few years ago was almost self sufficient.
The wests failure to take some action shows Bliar/Brown/Bush for what they are - hypocrites .
How sad that we have to watch night after night on TV the dreadful scenes in Zimbabwe .
12

Corkhead,

22/06/2008 09:51:47
#11 We have our share in the west.
Magabe is a useless piece of s**t and should be put down as the mad dog he is.
God on his side? With all the troubles going on in the world. War, famine, floods, earthquakes.
If there is a God then he must be sat a home with his feet up watching some crappy TV soap with a tin of cold Fosters in his hand.
I say He, as I don't think a woman would allow this sort of thing to go on.

BRING BACK MAGGIE.
13

Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 22/06/2008 09:55:25
Jeddeh-- why should th eoil producers produce more to lower fuel prices when the majority of pump costs are in TAX. Gordon the weary could lower pump costs at a stroke if he so wished. Instead he lays the blame elsewhere.
Edinburgh--Big Ali, Dahling to all, will be out on his legal neck soon. Hope he has kept the day job on.
14

Media 1,

cape town 22/06/2008 10:03:36
Mr Brown; I respect any person who studies and commits their time to achieving a goal. I respect anyone who can climb the political ladder of any nation to become the top man or woman. I respect and salute you as a person because what you have achieved in your short life is tremendous and more than most achieve in a lifetime, so for that well done.
However, now that you are in the top position I wish you would decide what it is you want to do about Zimbabwe. If you truly believe that Mugabe is committing attrocities and if you believe that he is breech of the constitution of that country then PLEASE stop talking and send in the f@cking army. Take him out and restore some order and then let the people rebuild their lives until the next Zimbabwe crisis in 20 years time...OR do nothing and tell us why you are doig nothing...
15

Chris,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 10:18:00
#6 El Sabio,Sibbertoft: Mbeki admires Mugabe and regards him as his senior. That is why he has been stalling all this time, under the pretence of 'quiet diplomacy'. It bought Mugabe and the JOC the time they needed by causing the other African leaders to hold back.
#15 Media 1,cape town: I can understand your frustration, but if the UK or USA go in, then it gives strength to Mugabe's claim that the MDC is Britain's puppet, and worse, will put the other african leaders on Mugabe's side. If Zim can be invaded, then so can....
It has to be solved by Africans. If anything, the UN should bring pressure to bear on China and Russia, and others, to stop openly supporting the evil regime in Zim. As long as this continues the JOC feel that they are protected. They know full well now that a trial awaits them if they lose and don't manage to get out of the country immediately after.
16

Boy Wonder,

22/06/2008 10:19:13
Everyone should be speaking out against this evil despot ... Mugabe ... not Brown (yet)... and calling for his removal by whatever means are to hand.

The MDC should withdraw and set about arming themselves and their supporters ... and other governments should be supplying them and helping out with logistics etc.

Mbeki should now be ostracized as his government is propping up Mugabe. South Africa looks like it requires change as well.
17

Toast,

22/06/2008 10:25:30
#9 Mugabe is a catholic,Benedict like the politicians hasn't got the guts to do anything.
18

Media 1,

cape town 22/06/2008 10:45:47
Boy Wonder

Let me tell you how it works here in SA. (Dont get me wrong, this is a tremendous country with an amazing quality of life, but the writing is on the wall and the wheels will be off by 2018)In South Africa there are two institutes running the country. Business and government. Business is white, government is black and of the two institutes, it is business that operates with integrity and a considerable amount of professionalism, government on the otherhand is corrupt to the core, incompetent and out of their depth.
When Mbeki said there was no crisis in Zimbabwe, he was protecting his friend and fellow liberation freedom fighting comrade. Remember they call eachother comrades because they are stained in communism, democracy is alien. Anyway, Mbeki protects the murderous Mugabe because that is more honourable than protecting the masses. Our health minister has the unfortunate job of trying to control the highest HIV infection rate in the world and her solution to this problem is to broadcast to the people that garlic and beetroot is the best cure, not WESTERN ARV's....She still has a job and is protected by government regardless that she is incapable and out of her depth. The security minister has the unfortunate job of providing safety in the most violent nation on the planet and his response to crime is this "if you dont like the crime you can leave" HE ALSO still has a job, hence why Africa is such a failure. There is no recourse, there is no common sense, there is no planning, no clue and no hope. THEY ARE F@CKING USELESS!
19

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22/06/2008 11:12:50
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20

oder,

Scotland 22/06/2008 11:13:25
Mugabe was educated at a catholic mission school by a fiercely anti British pro IRA Catholic priest it was there he learnt his revolutionary Marxist goals for Zimbabwe! and as has shown all the countries that adopted this policy has failed! nothing new here!
Mugabe is a Marxist! Catholicism and communism are so directly opposed to one another.Whatever Mugabe is he is no Catholic. Mugabe also claims to be a Democrat, in reality he is nothing more than a evil tyrant.
21

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 22/06/2008 11:15:07
Words, words, worthless words. Unless troops are put on the ground Mugabe will just do as he is told by the army there. Step forward any boarder out there willing to die for this cause.
22

Richard Lionheart,

22/06/2008 11:52:48
This is what Peter Hain and the Lib Dems campaigned for over 20 years ago. Black majority rule. So why not just let them get on with it.

Britain was warned that Africa would revert to tribalism under Black majority rule. It has. Democracy is dead move on.

Now Britain and the rest of the free world, while they remain free, will provide the same food aid programme to Sothern Africa as it has to the rest of Africa for years.

This was what Peter Hain and his pals were told would happen. They would not listen. Now we all pay the price. That includes the decent people in Southern Africa who are not in Mugabes tribe. Yes Peter Hain and his pals should stand up and take responsibility for it.

Modern Day PC Politicians never learn lessons from the past and always believe that they know best. No wonder the world is in such a mess!

Democracy means nothing, just wait for the next revamp of the EC treaty which will no doubt be imposed on the peoples of Europe, by our "leaders".

What does this say. The bully always wins in the end!
23

Griffe,

22/06/2008 12:18:04
Words don't stop monsters like Mugabe. Direct action is needed to remove Mugabe & his criminals from the face of the earth.
24

Cerberus,

Hades 22/06/2008 12:25:32
Mugabe pushes through an unpopular government initiative and Brown says, "Bad".

The EU push through an unpopular government initiative and Brown says, "Good".

If body counts are the key to determining international reaction, then I suggest that we look at the US of A and the UK as the rightful recipients of international disdain.
25

laundryman,

Yuma Arizona-USA 22/06/2008 14:53:48
If all Non African countries withheld all monies for everything and stopped all trade until the African Countries "Took care of their African problem',I believe you would see more pressure put on African leaders to take care of their problems in their own way.I do not think it would take long in coming.
26

Truthman,

Washington, DC 22/06/2008 15:31:25
'wave of brutality' As if it were a natural disaster! The only wave causing these problems is of Africans.
27

MisterN,

Scotland 22/06/2008 15:53:30
Oh aye he "condemns" the Mugabe regime but he joins in the overthrow of the Saddam regime and the Taleban.
Lucky for Mugabe he isnt a Jew hating Muslim or else the zionist controlled super powers would have ousted him by now.
28

Joe Macdelta.,

22/06/2008 17:12:59
Mugabe Is a lunatic we all agree, but he's the lunatic with control of the police and the army, hard to win an election against that.
Now that Gordan has told him off, perhaps he will feel remorse, what do you thik.
29

Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 22/06/2008 17:51:00
#13.Is that so?I seem to remember a time when the only two countries at war with others were India and Israel whose leaders were Indira Ghandi and Golda Meir - dont't think either of them was male!
Maggie wasn't averse to war either.
30

Michael G. McKay,

Fredericton, New Brunswick Canada 22/06/2008 18:11:29
You know that this crisis has been going for a long long while this Demonic individual who is nothing more than a demon Possessed witch doctor.He is a Terrorist to say the least. When is someone with influence going to stand up and say enough is enough, This individual has torn families apart and driven them from their land, and homesteads. This is another type of the former Ugandan President Iddy Amin who was condemned by the so-called Civilized world for comitting atrosities against his own Citizens. My Question is this, how much are we going to read and how much misery are the Zimbabwian People going to have to endure, be for this individual is severely dealt with by the rest of Civilized Humanity, and I use the term civilized loosly, because any person who would allow this kind of Crimimal activity and inhumanity to man to continue is not civilized at all
31

Media 1,

cape town 22/06/2008 18:57:44
Africa can be frustrating, especially when you live here. You see I expect things to be the same as they were under white rule, I expect order and a reasonably crime free environment because that is what I am used to in white governed nations. I expect politicians to understand their remit and I also expect them to be in parliament more often than not. I expect my minister of health to know something about health care as opposed to telling the masses that garlic and beetroot is the best cure for aids. I expect my minister of safety and security to tackle crime, not ignore it by asking those who dislike crime to leave. I expect my chief of police to be a man of integrity, not a personal friend of the most wanted man in the country. I expect my metro chief of police to be a responsible person, not a drunk driving maniac. I expect my President to look at Zimbabwe and say to the world, this is a crisis it is impacting negatively on SA and the people of Zimbabwe and we want your support to remove the brutal Mugabe regime, I dont expect him to hold hands with Mugabe. I expect the leader of the ANC to know that aids is a death sentence, which is why I was shocked when during his rape trial he said he took a hot shower following sex with a person known to have aids because it would reduce his chances of contracting the disease. I expect to live in a country that has less than 40 000 murders per annum and less than 50 000 rapes. I expect the traffic department to sort out the carnage that the mini bus taxi industry imposes on the rest of the nation, I dont expect them to ignore the carnage and focus on the harrassment of the average motorist.
Am I expecting too much? Sadly, in Africa I am.
African people are tribal and there is nothing wrong with that. The white man took away that tribal world and now we have a continent of tribal people trying to behave and operate in a European styled system. It wont work, not ever. Africa is tribal and the sooner it returns to those way
32

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 22/06/2008 18:58:29
Mugabe has made quite clear that he has no intention of stepping down irregardless of what the election(which now looks unlikely)results.

His speech about what was brought to power by the bullet cannot be undone by the ballot illustrates this in his usually colourful way. Mugabe is a Maoist whose belief system embraces Mao's dictum that power eminates from the barrel of a gun. Having an election is a needless waste of time and opposition supporters lives.

Everyone knows who are instigating the violence, its Mugabe and his chief henchman, Emmerson Mnangagwa, the head of the secretive Joint Operational Command; General Constatine Chiwenga, the leader of the army; Augustine Chihuri, the police chief; Air Marshall Perence Shiri, the head of the air force; Major-General Paradzayi Zimondi, the prisons chief; and Gideon Gono, the governor of the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe.

They should all be refered to the International Criminal Court for prosecution. It may take sometime to get them in the dock, but delayed justice is better than no justice at all. This may also have a slight deterent affect on other would be tyrants.

The US and the European Union should cut off all financial institutions in Zimbabwe from the International Payment system. This was a very effective weapon when it was used against North Korea. Any bank operating outside Zimbabwe that is found to facilitating Zimbabwe transaction should likewise be cut off from the system. This will bring whats left of the Zimbabwean economy to a screeching halt.

The West should use its veto power in the security council to stop all UN aid activity in Zimbabwe. With no commerce and no food it will only be a matter of time till Zimbabwe collapses and the refugees coming streaming out. Then the SADC will be faced with the problem that they have created by not reading the riot act to Mugabe a long time ago.

It is obvious that the only thing that will bring about change in Zimbabwe is Mugabes death or complete e
33

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 22/06/2008 18:59:53
Continued

It is obvious that the only thing that will bring about change in Zimbabwe is Mugabes death or complete economic collapse. Since no one in Zimbabwe seems to have the courage to bring about the former it is up to the Free World to bring about the latter.
34

Whoppitt,

22/06/2008 19:31:19
Mugabe KCB is there until he dies. The Security Forces have taken over, and Mugabe is the figurehead they need to act as a fig leaf for their coup. Don't get me wrong, Mugabe KCB is quite happy with this state of affairs.

We can't do much in Zim but we can outside. Mugabe KCB and his cronies have been stashing money away for years. We can control the banking system. The accounts should be frozen and the money set aside for the future.

If the banks won't play along, name and shame them. I can't imagine that many would like to linked to the foul acts in Zim.
35

Trade-wind,

USA 22/06/2008 21:07:59
#3 #4 #25 I will put this as politely as possible.
You are idiots. If the USA does anything you deride it
for doing it, if they do nothing you deride them for doing nothing. If you need help we are supposed to pony up and pull your backsides out of the fire. When I look at the evidence only one conclusion is viable. Your idiots that don't like the US much and that is fine.
I don't care what happens in the world or where it happens you will somehow connect the dots to the US and when you do it won't be to say well done. We do one hell of a lot of good around the world, a great deal more than your nation, but that doesn't mean your people are bad or that they are idiots only a small segment like yourselves can be classed that way.
Have a nice day everybody else.
36

MisterN,

Scotland 22/06/2008 21:30:25
36

Eh? double standards sunshine. The US government is now telling us it invaded Iraq and Afganistan (Couldnt find WMDs) in order to oust dictorial regimes but here we have one which is equally as bad and the US does nothing.
No oil and no Israelli foreign interests to motivate them this time and that tells its own story with regards to US foreign policy.
37

Itchy,

22/06/2008 21:52:22
#21 "Catholicism and communism are so directly opposed to one another."

Wrong. Both are about faith and self-sacrifice. BTW note that the Pope's recent attack on capitalism was Marxist.
38

Maurice,

23/06/2008 00:31:08
15 Media 1,cape town, sorry my Bru! It's Oom Thabo that should be (or rather should have) sent in the troops. Unfortunately these ex-comrades forgot to put in any clauses, in their vow to remain faithful to the brothers of the struggle, that when one of them loses the plot they should be replaced by the sane. 8 years I spent in the SADF largely on the border and there was a good defence force. Special forces second to none. But Alas! the "swart gevaar" has ruined everything they've laid their hands on. I doubt there would be any success for Africa at large.
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Maurice,

23/06/2008 00:33:56
By the way. the old SA had the G6 cannon, R4&5 rifle, Cheetah helicopter gunship etc. Have they delveloped anything else in the SADF or did they run out of gun oil since 1994?
40

bluehead,

edinburgh 30/06/2008 09:13:21
brown condemns mugabe,and the britsh people condemn him

 

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