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Alexander vows to stand up for 'victims' of SNP


Fighting talk in first conference speech as Labour Party leader

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Published Date: 30 March 2008
WENDY Alexander sought to redraw Scotland's political landscape yesterday as a fight between a "socialist" Labour party and a right-wing SNP, in her first conference speech as party leader.
The Scottish Labour leader threw red meat to the party faithful gathered in Aviemore, pledging to stand up on the side of the poor and dispossessed against a Nationalist Government which, she claimed, lacked compassion and "victimised" the vulnerable
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In a throwback to the party's battles against the Tory Government of the 1980s, Alexander made it clear she was opposed to SNP plans to cut business rates and council tax.

Using old Labour rhetoric, she pledged that instead of cutting taxes, she would – if made First Minister – cut poverty.

Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon last night hit back, claiming the speech was a "desperate gambit" to appeal to left-wing party loyalists.

Alexander's speech comes seven months after she took over the party following Labour's defeat in last year's Scottish elections. Her leadership was thrown into crisis after it emerged that she had wrongly accepted an illegal donation from a Jersey-based businessman, in breach of electoral laws.

The speech was her first opportunity to talk direct to party members following the furore and she used it to place herself in line with the party's socialist heritage, pledging to stand by the values of "social justice, of redistribution of wealth, of equal opportunity for all".

"This is the territory Labour will be happy to fight," she declared. "Left against Right; cutting poverty against cutting taxes; rewarding hard work against unearned wealth; socialist against nationalist."

She claimed First Minister Alex Salmond had gone into the election promising to "be more Labour than Labour" only to transform the SNP into a right-wing party in power. "Nothing is ever his fault, not the broken manifesto promises, not the council cuts, not the failing flagship local income tax. But come the next election, he will be taking the blame."

She told the audience that "when you leave here… be prepared to stand shoulder to shoulder with those the SNP would victimise".



US-style election plan for MSPs

Labour MSPs could be selected in US-style primary election campaigns, party leader Wendy Alexander has revealed. With the battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama captivating Democrats, the Scottish Labour leader said her own party may copy the American system. Under Labour's plan, in constituencies where there was a vacancy, all local supporters would get a say on who should stand. The move follows criticism of the so-called "Selectorate" of local party office-bearers. Critics claim the system ensures candidates simply attempt to curry favour with local party big-wigs, rather than appeal to the wider party.





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  • Last Updated: 29 March 2008 11:02 PM
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1

Why Are 400,000 Leaving The UK Each Year ?,

29/03/2008 23:12:31
We must all be really bad.

Why ?

Because they say you get the politicians you deserve.

Watching Wee Wendy at the rostrum in Aviemore was a nightmare. The only the I could think of is "John Major in Drag". More likely "John McMajor in Drag".

A once great and now dying political party heading for the political wilderness. Deja vu with old Majors dying government of 1997.

Now Labour is destined for a decade in the wilderness. Deservedly so.

Then Wee Wendy grabbed Clatty Jimieson for a Scissor Sisters pantomime acceptance of an ovation that could best be described as warm and luke.

Wendy will need more than including the names of late great leaders in a tacky effort to get some kudos by association.
2

alanh,

ek 30/03/2008 00:09:45
did she give herself 10 out of 10 for her speech
3

Evia,

30/03/2008 00:31:40
I am a victim of all parties who promise much then fail to deliver. If they could take their snouts out of their troughs for long enough to spend my money on what I need, I would be very grateful.
4

ratzo,

30/03/2008 00:39:02
I've posted this elsewhere so apologies, BUT:


a thought strikes:

The tartan tory smear is very lame but I wonder if it is an unintentional assumption that the Tories will be in power in westminster very soon and therefore it makes sense to conflate them with the SNP as a kind of amorphous but total opposition to 'socialism'.

On the other hand too much talk of socialism is going to be mighty difficult to sustain. Socialism was officially ditched by Labour following the successful emergence of the Social Democrats from the failing labour party under Michael Foot. Brown himself was part of that process and published various texts (e.g. in 1983) about the success of the New Right and the need to ditch the left to create a realistic new agenda for 'equality'.

If the 'socialist' rhetoric is sustained for longer than merely the conference event, it will just revisit ancient arguments about raising taxes for nanny-state (cradle to grave) redistribution. More tax and ID cards too? That is just suicidal. And it evokes all the deadly weak points in the labour armour about totalitarianism and authoritarianism that caused Labour to ditch socialism in the first place.

I'm starting to think the 'populist' squeak about socialism was in fact a big mistake.

The speech itself was catastrophic at the outset and you could almost hear the rapid drumming of panicked labout hearts. Given the extraordinary levels of obesity of most of the delegates, she would have killed half of them if she'd carried on, but she managed to recover a bit.
5

Senga Jean,

Scotland 30/03/2008 00:42:15
At last I understand what the Scottish cringe is......and how we cringed. Wendy....dear oh dear.
6

henrymanchester,

UK 30/03/2008 00:52:02
She only got the job because she was a woman anyhow, what did Tony Brown expect??!! :)
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Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 02:07:20
It won't be long now before Our Dear Leader Comrade Broon persuades Wendy to go. It will be because of the vitriolic attacks on her and her family by the nasty SNP flag burning, cyber-activists and bloggers. It won't be because she is totally incompetent, deranged, deluded and demented. Then it will be Jackie or Andy's turn to make a complete erse of themselves. Oh happy days!!!!
9

Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 02:43:50
Good story in the Guardian/Observer on how the 'Socialist' New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party have been flogging off school playing fields.
No doubt the cash made from these deals will be going to the poor and needy - property developers and the like.

10 out of 10 Wendy???

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schoolsports/story/0,,2269376,00.html
10

Castaway,

30/03/2008 03:00:33
Now it is upto the Scottish Labour party candidates and activists to explain to the Scottish electorate what Gordon and Wendy said at Aviemore, they have given you the tools so go forth and use them.
11

Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 03:18:52
From the Mail on Sunday

After The Mail on Sunday revealed last week that Mr Brown's new guru, Stephen Carter, had tried to recruit Phil Collins as a speechwriter, Mr Collins is reported to have responded by saying: "Brown doesn't need a speechwriter. He needs a magician."
12

Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 03:35:23
Who said this??? One of the MacChattering classes??
A cyberblogger?? A flag burning SNP activist??

"The government is losing touch with what fairness means to the mainstream majority."

"This is not a criticism of Gordon, but we have been in government 11 years and instead of being on the side of the people too often we simply defend the status quo, even when it is unacceptable.

No, it was said by Health Minister Ivan Lewis. Looks like the knives are being sharpened Broon.

I'll give myself 10/10
13

Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 04:20:56
Here are some of Wendy's champagne socialists. Give yourself 10/10 Wendy

New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party Socialists

1. Our Dear Leader, Comrade Broon.
2. Tony Blair
3. David Blunkett.
4. John Prescott.
5. Lord Watson.
6. Peter Hain
7. Tessa Jowell.
8. Harriet Harman.
9. Lord Goldsmith.
10. Lord Levy.
11. Lord Foolkes.
12. Wendy Alexander.
13. Andy Kerr.
14. Michael Martin
15. Keith Vaz.
16. Geoffrey Robinson.
17. Stephen Byers
18. Alan Milburn
19. Lord Irvine.
20. Jack Cunningham.
21. Claire Short.
22. Paul Drayson.
23. John Reid.
24. Bernie Ecclestone.
25. Sir Gulam Noon.
26. Philip Anschutz.
27. Rod Aldridge.
28. Sir David Garrard.
29. Nigel Morris.
30. Prof Sir Christopher Evans.
31. Ruth Turner.
32. David Abrahams.
33. Imran Khand
34. Alan Johnson
35. Rob Brown getting lifted for breaking and entering to steal Nona's knickers.
36. Ron Davis getting confused on Clapham Common.
37. Cherie Blair, Carol Caplin, the con-man and her Bristol flats.
38. Henry McLeish
14

Castaway,

30/03/2008 05:15:09
Wendy said......as fight between a "socialist" Labour party and a right-wing SNP. Then she said ....a Nationalist Government which, she claimed, lacked compassion and "victimised" the vulnerable.
The Scottish Government introduced these measures to help the Scottish people including those who are vulnerable:-
abolished the bridge tolls.
starting to abolish prescription charges.
Council tax freeze.
scrapped the graduate endowment fees.
The above sound like socialist policies from a compassionate Scottish Government.
15

Jimmy the Pie,

30/03/2008 05:18:23
For those who don't know, everyone of the above 38 'socialists' have been involved in various scandals since the Sleaze and Corruption Party came to power.

And they have the cheek to tell Scotland what is good for us!!!

16

Willie Macleod,

Wick 30/03/2008 05:25:33
Can I be on your list 39 Willie Macleod not a Champagne drinker but a malt and wine drinker and fellow Scot.
17

Willie Macleod,

Wick 30/03/2008 05:26:54
Whats this
18

Willie Macleod,

Wick 30/03/2008 05:36:20
I am involved in no Scandal who said that Iwill have you in court you scandalmonger you Dear Me such is life these days My Love and Best Wishes untill we meet again.
19

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 07:55:03
So does this mean the New Labour are becoming old Labour again?

Why have one party when you can have two within one?

Who created the vunerable in this society.
20

James,

Dundee 30/03/2008 08:19:05
Labour are in meltdown, and the Witches of Eastwood look like they been too close to the fire, as the wax is melting......
21

Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 09:13:33
There is only one victim here, and that is the LondonControlledScottish labour party
22

Calum Crubag,

Dùn Eideann 30/03/2008 09:49:32
More negativity from Alexander. As to right wing - why is it that Labour's Brit Nat bedfellows include the BNP and Orange Order. That's progressive for you! And to illustrate it, here's a wee snippet from the Hootsmon a few weeks ago:

It's Rangers For Me?, edited by a football journalist and politics lecturer, includes an admission by Labour MSP Karen Gillon that she once belted out choruses of 'The Sash', a song regarded by many as a sectarian anthem, which begins: "Sure I'm an Ulster Orangeman, from Erin's isle I came; To see my British brethren all of honour and of fame..."
23

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 09:59:38
If they are going to spin the bit about 'socialism', does that mean they will become even more corrupt?

Presumably the tax free status of private equity firms will go, the non dom tax reintroduced, higher earners taxed more and the gradual decline of free speech.

While we are still allowed to post on media sites I would like to say just one other thing

'***k off Labour or start treating the electorate with some semblance of intelligence
24

Pilrig.,

Livingston 30/03/2008 10:00:36
Perhaps she can stand up for us victims of her boss ? As a result of his raids on pensions quite a few of us will have to work on beyond 65.
10 out of 10 for previous endeavour, Wendy !
25

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:02:31
Will Wendy start conversing with Hugo Chavez, start wearing hammer and sickle thongs and attend Castro's funeral when it comes?

I can't see any of that happening and have started to convulse visualising the second aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhh
26

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:03:30
I suppose its one way of controlling social mobility even further downwards
27

Bascule,

30/03/2008 10:09:23
Bendy Wendy can't, surely, can't believe that anybody takes a single word that drips from that paste-bucket mouth of hers seriously - does she? Poor deluded woman.
28

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:12:06
She uses the word 'victimise'.

Victims =

poor infantry now dead in Iraq

Bleaker future in terms of social mobility

Members of our society who lived on the lowest
standard of living in western EU

Those effected by living in the most violent society in the developed world

The victims of Labours rule over the last 50 years is endless




29

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:16:58
Incidentally, if you want to see corned beef pasties reintroduced into Greggs the bakers, please feel free to contact them:

http://www.greggs.co.uk/customer_care/contact_us/

Why were they ever removed in the first place?
30

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:20:36
It appears that the Brown led G8 summit at Gleneagles succeeded in abolishing third world poverty.

Oh how proud this statement made the labourtory monkeys feel as they applauded this thought to the rafters.

However, later, as they walked out of the conference venue into the gloomy twilight of a rainy late winter day in Aviemore, they realized that it was all spin and bluster; poverty had not been abolished, or even relieved.

Aviemore itself had already fallen to the SNP foe, and the drive back to deepest Lanarkshire or Paisley had to be negotiated along the dratted A9, usually only used by teuchters, shepherds, and SNP beardies.

Celtic had stumbled at Ibrox, opinion polls made depressing reading, Wendy thought she was a perfect 10, Gordon made a good impression of a dead man walking, doubling the income tax of the poorest paid whilst reducing the tax of the higher paid is described as being “Socialist”, at the same time the abolition of; prescription charges, bridge tolls, tuition fees, and regressive council tax is somehow the preserve of the “tartan tories”.

Those labourtories who hold the likes of Keir Hardie, Jimmy Maxton and John McLean in any esteem, must be scratching their heads in bewilderment.

31

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:30:14
Its just depressing hear her whinge, attack and blame others for their own mistakes.

Despicable
32

gus1940,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 10:34:08
Did Wendy not realise that in her interview she was being asked to score herself on her competence as leader not her incompetence.
33

roughrider,

Maryhill. Glasgow. 30/03/2008 10:46:06
Get a grip Wendy you will never in a million years be first minister of Scotland.
She is a failure who cannot even run a non campaign for leadership of the sleaze and corruption perty in Scotland without BREAKING THE LAW.
Having said that she is probably the best wee opposition leader in the world.
Dead in the water.
34

Guga II,

Rockall 30/03/2008 10:47:01
Socialism is it? That's a laugh. My dog is more of a socialist than the Mouth of the South could ever be.

In any event, how does she square her alleged move to socialism with her master, Maggie Broon? The only thing I can think of is that he is a Stalinist, totalitarian control freak. Maybe that's what she means, she is going to try and be as Stalinist as her master.

The only problem is, will she manage to get all of the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) to go along with her?

She can give herself 10 out of 10 for bullsh*t.
35

Garry Otton,

Scottish Media Monitor 30/03/2008 11:08:55
Reasons NOT to vote SNP? Read the latest edition of Badge of Shame on the Scottish Media Monitor website.
36

The Laird o'the Glens,

Angus Glens 30/03/2008 11:14:15
Dear Ms Alexander,please read the article by Iain McWhirter in today's Sunday Herald.Thank you. The Laird
37

Jwil,

30/03/2008 11:17:47
American Style elections:

Wendy is already following Hilary Clinton's example. Lies, lies and more lies.
38

Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 11:19:27
Summary of bendy's speech in one sentence -

'Go home to your constuency and prepare for oblivion'
39

Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 11:20:05
Summary of bendy's speech in one sentence -

'Go home to your constituencies and prepare for oblivion'
40

Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 11:21:13
Re comparison Hilary Clinton, wee bendy mis-speaks every time
41

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 30/03/2008 11:32:30
Whilst the SNP are not exactly god's gift to Scotland, the present Labour lot are about on a par with the muppets.
What will it take for "Whingeing Wendy" to realise just how much of a joke she is and stand down, she should not even be an MSP never mind a leader.
- I suppose you could say that for a lot of them though.
42

scottish person,

paisley 30/03/2008 11:38:17
I am sick fed up with this union rag. The bendy scotsman. Why are they always against the SNP. From what I can see the SNP are only interested in Scotland, so what is the problem with this rag supporting them. The Herald does, its a real paper though. Broon is only worried about his job. What about the right honourable speaker spending £950,000 on his garden and £700,000 on his second home, plus thousands on taxi's. Start reporting this stuff you apology for a newspaper.
43

jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow 30/03/2008 11:39:20
Wendy wants socialism back. This will be a shock to all the rich titled people who backed Labour to get their gongs and a seat in the House of Lords. I hope they stop donating to Labour now.
44

Capital Boy,

30/03/2008 11:40:01
46 well go read the herald and dinny read this wan then!!
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jdships,

30/03/2008 11:42:41
Wendy "10/10" Alexander can't, surely, believe that anybody takes a single word that she said yesterday ( or any other day for that matter) seriously - does she? Poor deluded woman.

Here is the classic example of a "Wanabee" who will end up a "Neverbee" and will eventually become a total embarresment to Scotland and Scottish politics.!
The Labour Party is the "Peoples party" , "Socialism" - you are having a "laff" !!

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jdships,

30/03/2008 11:47:10
46 scottish person,paisley

Big Yawn.
Just read the Herald then if you are not prepared to take opinions from all angles.
You do the SNP no favours
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30/03/2008 11:47:30
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scottish person,

paisley 30/03/2008 11:48:17
Capital boy, I do read the other one. But I like an all round view of everyones opinion and take it on board. Do you work for the hootsmon per chance.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 11:49:53
#39

Are you implying that the Scottish Government should only seek to engage in debate with those who promote the concept of homosexuality?

If so, it would appear that you, yourself, are guilty of the crime of sexual fascism.

Individuals of your persuasion appear to be well represented within the ranks of the North British branch of the Labourtory sleaze and corruption party.

How does your mantra go?

“If you canny be a priest be a minister”

51

Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 12:06:56
#50
"No mention of how Wendy will pay for all of these 'social injustices' to be put right"

Looks like increase council taxes for a start, maybe also ask London for the money from the union dividend
52

brownlie,

glasgow 30/03/2008 12:07:19
If you "stand shoulder to shoulder" with those her party "victimised" in Iraq you are liable to be blown to bits. Latest reports show Iraq is being plunged into civil war - so more blood on Nulab hands.
53

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 30/03/2008 12:22:19
My highlights of the Labour shindig.

Gordon sparing the time to tell the Scottish troops they will put up with Wendy until he says otherwise.

Wendy's speech, well not so much a speech as a death rattle, talk about a wilderness crying out in a voice.

Wendy giving herself ten out of ten, well we already knew she was no good with figures but still.......

Wendy embracing the party's socialist roots, as she decides nothing without Gordon's say so, does this mean they are going to unpick every un-socialist aspect of Blair’s years in power?.........no didn't think so.

Oh the fun SNP supporters are going to have reminding the Labour party faithful of her words every time she and her party embrace another aspect of capitalism just like the kind that is building all those new schools......... New Labour socialism in action right enough!

Gordon and Wendy, taking hypocrisy to even lower levels.


54

Joe M.,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 12:46:44
This is hilarious.
55

JabbaTheFifer,

Dunfermline 30/03/2008 13:19:04
Labour just don't get it do they?

We've had 10 years of your brand of "socialism". We know that New Labour and the "Third Way" are just new ways of dressing up greed and self-interest.

For all the bluster and promises of wee Wendy and The Supreme Leader, we know that leopards don't change their spots.

If wW is highlighting poverty and inadequate education, how is that the fault of a less-than-year-old Government and not that of the previous, 10-year+ incumbent?
56

Itchy,

Lochgelly 30/03/2008 13:27:49
"WENDY Alexander sought to redraw Scotland's political landscape yesterday as a fight between a "socialist" Labour party and a right-wing SNP, in her first conference speech as party leader."

Socialism is Scotland's problem, not Scotland's solution Wendy. You have no answers whatsoever.
57

Edward,

30/03/2008 13:38:48
Wendy Alexander cant have it both ways!
A couple of weeks ago her new best friend Annabelle Goldie stood up and stated that the SNP were too LEFT WING!
Now we have Endy spouting that the SNP are too RIGHT WING!
So their either right wing or left wing, cant be both
The fact of the matter is that th SNP are by and large socialist in nature, in fact there probably more left wing than 'New Labour', which is something that hits a nerve with the spinners of New Labour as their no longer seen as the working mans party.
So what better way of trying to regain lost ground but accuse the SNP of being right wing
Wendy Alexander and the rest of New Labour really are quite pathetic! They should concentrate on formulating ideas to best serve Scotland as opposed to attacking a successful SNP
58

Edward,

30/03/2008 13:42:06
The only victims here are the people of Scotland, victims to 10 years of right wing new Labour
If Wendy Alexander was so much in favour of left wing socialist policies, why has she kept quite until now, the fact is that the SNP, make New Labour look more RIGHT wing than they already are!!!!!!!!
59

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 13:48:12
We'll see how 'right wing' the SNP are perceived to be by the public when a raft of policies come into effect in April, e.g. the abolition of prescription charges.

SNP populist actions will always swamp Labour Political rantings.

If Labour wants to move forward they must copy Steven Purcell. His brilliantly simple apprentice scheme will be of enormous benefit to Glasgow youngsters and the Glasgow economy and will be praised by everyone from me to Prime Minister Salmond.

If Labour in Holyrood wants to get back in the game it should follow Steven Purcell's lead, oh....but of course that also means supporting good SNP Government legislation as Steven and other Labour leaders did over the Council Tax freeze.
60

Why Are 400,000 Leaving The UK Each Year ?,

30/03/2008 13:53:50
#14 Jimmy,

You missed the Very, Very Honourable Peter Mandelson. He did many great things for New Labour.
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Why Are 400,000 Leaving The UK Each Year ?,

30/03/2008 13:59:23
#8 Jimmy the Pie.

OH PLEASE,

When Wendy goes, New Labour wouldn't be so utterly insane as to elect the televisual nightmare that is the insufferable Jackie the Hut Baillie.

If that happens Jimmy, will you have to change your name to "Jimmy There's No Pies Left" ???


62

Scotsman in Dublin,

30/03/2008 14:55:55
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, good one Wendy! The Labour party are socialists, right. Maybe 20 years ago.

Wendy cosies up with the Tories and then calls the SNP right wing?!? One things for sure, if Wendy is really thinking of becoming a socialist her boss in London will soon knock that out of her!
63

Carlung,

30/03/2008 15:14:46
Alexander vows to stand up for 'victims' of SNP!!!!
The only victims of the SNP are the entire Scottish Labour party.
64

Alberto.,

Ross-shire 30/03/2008 15:25:45
" Alexander vows to stand up for 'victims' of SNP"

This headline of the piece says it all!

Of Course she will stand up for the 'victims' of the SNP - after all, that's what 'she's' there for - 'she' is their leader and 'self-appointed' Top Dog / Bitch as they have 'allowed!' Her bark tells you so, but it is doubtful if her bite will have any affect on things, as so far it seems extremely negative - throw her another biscuit if she keeps prattling on!


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Media 1,

cape town 30/03/2008 15:34:45
Political parties are all a bunch of useless liars and cheats. They are supposed to be there doing a job for the public, yet they do nothing of the sort. An MP should earn no more than 40 000 pound per annum. Servants dont earn great money, so 40K is more than enough. If you want to earn more, then dont become a public servant. Secondly, governments rarely stick up for the poor, so Alexander is talking nonsense when she says she will stick up for the poor. Why stick up for the poor, they are poor because they dont get off their a$$es.
LABOUR are not worth a vote, but when compared to the SNP they are quite obviously more experienced and more likely to lead Scotland better than the inexperienced Freedom Fighters known as the SNP.
66

The Tin Man,

Over the Rainbow 30/03/2008 15:40:07
Wendy Alexander is an utter plonker. Is there anyone left in the Scottish Labour Party who won't make people cringe?
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 15:53:59
"pledging to stand up on the side of the poor and dispossessed"

It's a pity that Wendy and the rest of the LondonControlledScottish labour party didn't think of the poor and dispossed before now
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Media 1,

cape town 30/03/2008 15:57:06
Brian M

Nobody cares about the poor, and why should they. If one person is poor and another wealthy, good on the wealthy person for making it, to bad for the poor person for facking it up!
Wendy is a prize plonker, but at least she represents a political party as opposed to a liberation movement with a freedom fighting mentality like the SNP.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 16:23:02
together Gordon and Wendy will be the new Krankies
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Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 30/03/2008 16:53:04
Carefull Media 1, you may be financially poor yourself one day. Generally your posts indicate a severe social bankruptcy and poverty of spirit.
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Amaury,,

30/03/2008 17:21:22
ANDREW MARR: If things are going so well why do only a quarter of Scots say they actually want independence?

ALEX SALMOND: Well it's interesting that the poll last Sunday, the one you're quoting, showed a number of things, actually. It showed that the SNP government was far in the lead, in a double digit lead. But on the question of independence the support for independence now is about a quarter but they also asked the question 'would you vote for independence under certain circumstances', and it was two-thirds of the people in the same poll, the same people, said they would vote and therefore?

ALEX SALMOND:
"But on the question of independence the support for independence now is about a quarter "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/7321392.stm
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Saul Tyre,

Germany 30/03/2008 17:31:23
#63 In the eighties Helmut Kohl promised an apprenticeship for every school leaver in Germany. It had no chance of working because some school leavers could barely read or write and a few were just unemployable. I agree the scheme is noble but we also need people to sweep the streets and deliver milk etc.

By the way, Gordon Brown would make a better street cleaner than a politician.
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Reckless,

Corrupt EU, lying Labour 30/03/2008 18:15:59
I think Wendy's been smoking the funny cigarettes again!
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Robert,

Kirriemuir 30/03/2008 18:16:48
She acutually made an excellent speech but the problem is neither the delivery nor its content but sadly, the image! She just has not got it which will undoubtedly turn away many from supporting Labour as it has done with the Tories. Neither, of course, has Alex Salmond the right image, nor had the previous Labour leader (who was he), and that is Scotland's problem. Our best politicians are ensconsed at Westminster except, our present day 'Rob Roy' (or the 'James Cagney' of the political world) in the guise of Tommy Sheridan! Where are you Tommy; get back into the saddle!
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Stefania Alvarez,

30/03/2008 18:27:28
When will you SNP dough-heids wake up ... Salmond and Sturgeon are no different from Wendy Alexander ... you nationalist drones are seriously deluded.

But I suppose that is a drone's job ... sacrifice for the leader ehh??

Enjoy being a small cog in Salmond and Sturgeon's glorious career.

EEJITS !!!
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Stefania Alvarez,

30/03/2008 18:39:32
I can picture Salmond and Sturgeon at the SNP Conference ... with straws in their hands ready !!!

For sucking out members brains !!!
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 19:07:34
#85

you've been watching too much Red Dwarf.

Now there's a thought. Red Dwarf, could be the name for the new-born socalist that is bendy Wendy Alexander
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 19:12:28
Wendy says vote for her as she is The Best Wee Socialist in the World
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An Beal Bacht,

30/03/2008 19:20:53
Red Wendy - Scotland's own Rosa Luxemburg?
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Breezy,

Argyll 30/03/2008 19:27:43
There goes Wendy as she rides off into the Aviemore sunset after the fiddlers rally..........Ten out of ten tae ten tae ten............
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 30/03/2008 20:10:43
maybe bendy Wendy should rebrand herself as 'Red Senga'
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Rob7,

England 30/03/2008 20:21:52
Who will stand up to the Victims of Labour? VOTE SNP
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An Beal Bacht,

30/03/2008 20:47:16
93 - Traquir, Alba 30/03/2008 20:35:33writes:

"Browne says Labour runs Scotland"

Surely he is correct Traquir? Holyrood was designed to be a pretendy parliament with real power firmly in the grasp of Westminster. Isn't that why we want independence?
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Brian M,

30/03/2008 21:23:47
#93 and #94

I think Brown-nose actually said "Labour ruins Scotland"
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Eve,

Scotland 30/03/2008 21:30:30
Victums!!!!

I believe a wise person wance said.

You can choice to be a VICTUM or you can make a stance against those against victimization.

Believing that you are a victim is the first sign of lacking of self belief.

Being once a victim is nothing to be ashamed of, staying a victim is foolish. Making life style improvements to lose victim status is honorable (even when you've been given support to do so)

Though I don't believe that Wendy and co. want these apparent victims to become empowered, judging by her tone yesterday. Sounds like she'd have no one to talk about saving if she did.

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Oh god Wendy wants to be oor mummy and Gordon Brown to be oor daddy. And the cabinet minsters in Westminster to be oor annuities and uncles!!!!
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Eve,

Scotland bonnie Scotland 30/03/2008 21:35:53
#82 Stefania Alvarez: When will people like you stop calling people with diffrent opions from you names?

It's Childish!!
&

Wrong!!!!
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An Beal Bacht,

30/03/2008 21:51:06
97 - Eve, Scotland 30/03/2008 21:30:30 writes:

" ... cabinet minsters in Westminster to be oor annuities ...".

Does that mean they're going to give us pocket money?
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An Beal Bacht,

30/03/2008 21:52:22
Sorry Eve - I wasn't trying to make a joke of your dyslexia - but it was a funny slip - no?
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morris,

edinburgh 30/03/2008 23:17:52
WENDY Alexander sought to redraw Scotland's political landscape yesterday as a fight between a "socialist" Labour party and a right-wing SNP.

Who writes this? I know a comedian who could use a good script writer .
There is no socialist Labour Party. There never was and the NEW LABOUR PARTY is even more right wing than the Old party.


Using old Labour rhetoric, she pledged that instead of cutting taxes, she would – if made First Minister – cut poverty. Cutting Taxes for the lower paid does exactly that of course.

Her party increased taxation with the removal of the 10p band. She increased poverty.


She told the audience that "when you leave here… be prepared to stand shoulder to shoulder with those the SNP would victimise".

If the SNP victimise anyone it will be the rich.New Labour certainly stand shoulder to shoulder beside them !


This is the opposite of the truth.

VOTE LABOUR AND DECLARE YOUR STUPIDITY TO THE WORLD
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morris,

edinburgh 30/03/2008 23:22:10
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The SNP were unelectable until ten years ago and people who stood for them had to be there on principle because they had no chance of being elected.You call us eejits ! You are one cupid stunt of the first magnitude.
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morris,

edinburgh 30/03/2008 23:30:28
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Wendy is a prize plonker, but at least she represents a political party as opposed to a liberation movement with a freedom fighting mentality like the SNP.
It would be hard for a party leader to avoid representing that party,but Wendy comes as close as its possible to do!
I am also grateful for your insight into freedom being undesireable. We should beg China to rule over us then yes?

You call her a plonker !
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morris,

edinburgh 30/03/2008 23:39:46
Labour MSPs could be selected in US-style primary election campaigns,says Wendy !Thats one way of ensuring that we get the best politicians that money can buy I suppose!

Would that be better than your non election and being imposed on us by Gordon Brown Wendy ? You even managed to screw up donations for an election which never existed.
If Spitting Image ever returns they will have real problems with Wendy ! How do you create a puppet which is distinguishable from the Paisley one?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 30/03/2008 23:56:17
What an utter embarrassment she is. She really should take some lessons in public speaking some time.
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 31/03/2008 00:33:15
So Labour's plan to beat the SNP is to rebrand themselves 'socialists', talk of 'redistribution of wealth', label the SNP 'tartan Tories' and 'Thatcherite' and prime their media mates to convince us all that the conversion is a real one, that Labour are on the way back, the tide is turning. But Wendy's conversion smacks of style over substance. Why has it taken so long to discover (I won't say recover) her socialist roots? And how will it go down with the right wing press who up until now were happy to support anyone who indulges in a bit of nat-bashing?

After brand Blair, the politics of focus-groups and marketing campaigns, can we really be sure this is not just another feel-good campaign? Labour have not been socialist for years. I.D. cards. Iraq. British pledges of allegiance. Allowing chosen worthies to debate and decide Scotland's constitutional future without putting anything they come up with to a referendum. Is this Labour's new socialism? There may still be those in the party who warm to any mention of Keir Hardy but grant the rest of us our cynicism, we're probably right. Wendy would have us believe she stands for the disposessed. And where was she for the last ten years? This is no more than one last spin for labour. Now sit back and watch it fall apart. Again.
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McGinty,

31/03/2008 01:16:55
I don't have a problem with taxing the rich per se, what kind of sick, unjust screw up society flogs its lowest earners so hard whilst keeping taxes low for the above average earners or are we all so brainwashed. What I do have a problem with is when a majority in Scotland want to be more 'socialist' but if that ain't going to happen while we're tied down to some centralist, Thatcherite, elitist, London based elective dictatorship. It's not just an SNP we need, it's pro-independence Labour and liberal parties. The genie's out the bottle.
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Matt there,

somewhere 31/03/2008 02:48:58
So, Wendy's idea of being a Socialist is to increase taxes for the poorest in society?

And she calls this "standing up for them?" Please, Wendy. If that's your idea of standing up for the poor, don't bother. They can't afford your kind of help.
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IainGlasgow,

31/03/2008 18:01:19
"Alexander vows to stand up for 'victims' of SNP"

Good on her - those former labour minister are extremely vulnerable people and need all the help they can be given.
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 31/03/2008 22:34:49
I go to bed every night praying I don't become a "victim of the SNP"

Why? I could not stand that awful woman defending me!
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