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Published Date: 20 January 2008
DEFENCE chiefs are "grossly under-funding" Britain's armed forces by at least £1bn, a powerful committee of MPs will reveal next week.
Aftermath: an Iraqi police officer patrols the streets following the clashes with the Soldiers of Heaven cult
Aftermath: an Iraqi police officer patrols the streets following the clashes with the Soldiers of Heaven cult
As a result, our armed forces are under-manned, over-stretched and, in many cases, not ready for the battlefield, potentially putting lives at risk, MPs will declare following a year-long inquiry.

The shortfall in funding could mean crucial new defence contracts, from the construction of aircraft carriers to armoured vehicles for Iraq, will be delayed or cancelled altogether, MPs on the Defence Select Committee warn.

Last night, there were fears that the crisis could have a knock-on effect for the hundreds of jobs in Scotland which rely on defence contracts for work.

The report will pile extra pressure on Defence Secretary Des Browne as he faces claims from former defence chiefs that the Government has broken the 'military covenant'.

The report will lay bare a catalogue of shortfalls within the MoD, including:

• Analysis revealing that the MoD spending plans are around £350m a year less than is required over the next three years.

• Evidence that only 58% of the armed forces had no "serious or critical" weaknesses in their ability to mount operations, well beneath the target of 71%.

MoD chiefs have admitted to the committee that this is caused by "existing high levels of deployment" in Afghanistan and Iraq.

• The failure to meet force targets in the Army. The "predicted trained strength" for this April is 99,300, as opposed to the target of 101,855.

The committee has taken evidence from the MoD's most senior staff who now admit openly that the financial pressures will hurt.

The MoD's permanent secretary Bill Jeffrey is recorded as saying: "We will certainly be looking at the equipment programme.

"My guess is that we will have to make some quite difficult decisions."

Union leaders say delays to a £4bn order for two Royal Navy aircraft carriers could put jobs at risk at Govan and Scotstoun shipyards in Glasgow, and at Rosyth, Fife.

Bernard Jenkin, a Conservative member of the cross-party committee, said it was inevitable that the financial strain on the MoD would lead to major orders being delayed, scaled back or scrapped altogether.

"The MoD is going to have to cut back on its programme of procurement projects in order to carry on with its frontline commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Jenkin.

Jim Moohan, chairman of the Scottish ship-building and engineering unions, said the aircraft carrier order was crucial to the future of BAE Systems' 2,500 workers at Govan and Scotstoun and the 1,000 staff at Babcock International at Rosyth.

The work will secure jobs and apprenticeships for the next ten to 15 years, said Moohan.

He added: "Any slippage could take us to the edge of extinction. After 20 years of instability, I don't understand why the Government would risk the backlash involved in failing to save the industry."

Defence ministers say the defence budget will increase by 1.5% over the next three years from £34bn in 2008/09 to £36.9bn in 2010/11.

But Jenkin confirmed analysis shown to the committee suggested that the MoD was facing an annual shortfall of £1bn.

"Anyone reading this report will draw the clear implication that the armed forces are grossly under-funded," he said.

He added: "It's evident in the continuing under-manning of all three services, in a decline in our forces readiness for operations, in the need to replace equipment that has worn out in the field and in the need for troops to be able to train on the same equipment that they will use in the field."

An MoD spokeswoman said the UK's defence budget was the second-highest defence budget in the world in real terms and represented the longest period of sustained real growth in planned defence spending since the 1980s.

"It is evidence of the Government's commitment to defence and to the men and women who serve with the utmost bravery in our armed forces," said the spokeswoman.

She added: "The MoD is currently in the middle of its planning round, when it considers a very wide range of options as a matter of course.

"This is routine business, and no decisions have been taken. But inevitably there is always a lot of speculation."



The full article contains 729 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 20 January 2008 2:13 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Iraq
 
1

Auld Sodjer,

Gosport 20/01/2008 00:12:05
Underspending is a natural consequence of successive governments taking a "Peace Dividend". Sadly, this only works if we remain at peace!
2

Colin R,

BEarsden 20/01/2008 01:49:58
It's the second highest defence budget in the world because so much is wasted on compensating typists, employing spin doctors, teaching Des Browne to speak properly at the despatch box, overstaffed with sniveling serpents and legal fees sorting out errors not with good , plentiful kit.
3

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 20/01/2008 03:00:58
the money being saved is going in the kitty when the next terrorist attacks may hit the uk.
4

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 20/01/2008 05:53:15
When SCOTLAND gains INDEPENDENCE then we will not have to put up with the MOD in london dictating policy on priorities for our brave SCOTTISH SOLDIERS. GET RID!!
5

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 20/01/2008 06:08:30
Surely it must be right to pay those penpusher civil servants at the MoD their £7000 annual bonuses rather than wasting the money on our armed forces.
6

morris,

edinburgh 20/01/2008 07:26:48
Underfunding of the armed forces is hardly news.This merely confirms what the government have been denying for years, is like everything else a load of cobblers,and guilty as charged.

The size of our defence budget is not so much the issue here.How we spend that budget however is very much the issue.

The armed forces know what they need, but the government knows what the government wants.

How about marrying the two together and they provide what is needed,not what is deemed to be politically acceptable to the warmomgers in Westmonster,who wont even pay for the wars they created!
7

donald,

glasgow 20/01/2008 07:33:09
Cannaa afford tao invade everbiddy and have the London Olympics as well.

Circuses afore breid.
8

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 20/01/2008 08:50:19
There's enough money; it's just that it's being mis allocated and then mis used. Too many chiefs, not enough indians. It's high time the army was privatised (geddit?).
9

JimboJimbo,

20/01/2008 10:07:55
#2 - too true about the spin doctors. How come the MOD Spokesman statement is so totally at odds with the rest of the expert opinion, former defence chiefs, MOD senior staff and even MOD's permanent secretary? Typical spin from the mouth pieces of the Treasury!! Lets take a saving starting with them!
10

glassbenmhor,

20/01/2008 11:15:39
I hope we all see the prevailing attitude from the safest and smuggest mandarins in Government how dare that bitch give a comment like that at the end of an article which simply states The Ministry of Defence is complicit in Manslaughter upon god knows how many souls.Now listen people get killed in war,but no nation should expect Death and loss over the lack of issue of basic body armour,lack of rations,vechicles from the sixties constantly breaking down,Aircraft from the same decade pissing out fuel from 58 unserviced holes in the tanks,oh yes tanks with the wrong air filters,brigades deploying to Afghanistan with initially seven choppers but two breaking down upon arrival just goes on and on and on and on,it will do till the Top of the MOD is taken apart root and branch.
This topic should be of the gravest concern because whether we believe in our presence in foreign lands or not all of us must surely want the best possible safety that we can give,it grieves me hard as with many others as to the present situation of our men and women in the forces.
11

glassbenmhor,

20/01/2008 11:22:26
#4 and #5 BANG-on as near as i come to religion was my oath of alegience to the Colours,aye,then it becomes a family matter,aye,1000 years of pure hatred to New Labour.
12

glassbenmhor,

20/01/2008 11:30:39
But look on the bright side as a patrol comes in to a compound in a far off land and is told they will just have to grab a pizza from the NAFFI store because the Cookhouse is shut(but keep the receipt cause you might be reimbursed in six months time)we can all sleep sound,for the mandarins have commissioned a study(wonder what this costs)saying Pipers might have to be outlawed because of damage to their hearing!!!!!
Pipers are in far more danger from starving to death or getting ambushed when their 1960's transport breaks down.
13

Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 20/01/2008 11:35:39
I believe there are more Admirals on the MOD payroll than navy battleships! Says something about priorities!Who in their right mind would work for the MOD in any branch of the services? Sign up for a career in H.M.
Forces? Madness.
14

Riley Hamish,

Edina 20/01/2008 11:39:49
Whit's the problem?
Surely ye don't think we can afford shiny new-model missiles on the Clyde (mind you, it'd be rerr if we could find a'body tae aim them at) AND troops (who kin aeways be replaced wi' anithir unemployed wretch oanyhow) who are aeways needin' new guns an' boots an' things??. Wherr ur a' the guns we bought fur therr grandfaithirs in WW2 oanyhow.....huv they loast thim ur whit?.....'Sadisgrace so it iz!!
Gie them aw a Big Mac an' a new cycle repair kit........problem solved....Taliban?...Nae chance.
15

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 20/01/2008 13:34:51
Makes you proud to be British, well doesn't it?
16

cabrach loon,

inverness 20/01/2008 16:24:56
Yet so much taxpayers money offered to Northern Rock because its Prescott's land and a strong nulabour hoomeland! Where is the decency?
17

tomfrom66,

Thornton Cleveleys 20/01/2008 17:00:05
First, there's the, er, consultants.

Symbia clocked in at £1200 a day + VAT, but that was 13 month ago, so it must have gone up since then?

Second, there's Ross Perot's Electronic Data Systems that masively fouls up the squaddies' pay. Their £250m IT system - which also played a key role in the on-going fiasco at the Child, er, 'Support' Agency.

This Sunday Times piece needs reading full:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3022422.ece

Third: in September last year The Telegraph reported that the "Ministry of Defence's 20 biggest weapons projects are £2.6 billion over budget and a total of 36 years behind schedule"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/11/nmod111.xml

By the time The Guardian weighed in - November last year - it was £3.5bn! (In two months?!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2219556,00.html

Fourth, there's the great white elephant we see a lot of around the Fylde Coast: the Eurofighter.

Like Northern Rock, the Eurofighter cannot be allowed to face "market forces". It might be described as a relic of the Cold War, but what the hell? That awfully nice democrat in charge of Saudi Arabia absolutely loves them, and the, er, 'extras' that come long with it.

And finally there's the private medics.

Yes, we might - according to Des - be in Afghanistan for "decades", but we can't get the doctors:

"MoD figures last year showed a shortage of 2,065 medical staff across the services, with more than a quarter of all posts unfilled. To cover those gaps, the MoD has turned to the private sector. A total of 184 private medical staff have been employed on British bases since 2004, costing the MoD £4.3 million."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ESYX4C33N3BQBQFIQMGCFFOAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2008/01/14/narmy114.xml

Who was it said the Home Office was "not fit for purpose"?

An epitaph for the entire government, surely?
18

subrosa,

20/01/2008 17:00:15
# 16

You obviously have no knowledge of today's military or you're reading too many novels. A young officer today living in an (Officers) Mess pays nearly half of their net salary in mess bills. Any 'special' dinner such as a Burns Supper is paid for by the residents. This year I know one particular mess in England which is charging £45 each to attend their Burns Supper, don't know the charges of others. I certainly wouldn't pay £45 for a Burns Supper but it's more or less compulsory officers attend.

So please, perhaps in days gone by Officers Messes were subsidised but they certainly are not today. These young officers are between the devil and the deep really as they are moved on the whim of the MOD and therefore cannot afford to buy a property of their own. The reason for this is simply they cannot afford both messing fees and mortgage fees and the cost of renting out their properties outweighs the rental produced. Also if they happen to get a few weeks home from theatres of war then cannot get access to their own homes if they are rented because R & R is given at very short notice.

As for the food in Officers Messes these days it's no better than the level of Kentucky Fried Chicken etc. Catering is contracted out to the cheapest bidder. At least we still have military cooks in war zones so they are fed quality food in these situations but they are leaving rapidly and setting up their own businesses in civvie street.
19

Noursemann,

USA 20/01/2008 17:58:05
Take these words away from newspapers and they would have no stories:

fears of (whatever), possibly can cause, could cause, may cause, and I am sure there are others someone can think of. So many negatives in the news -- no wonder people are depressed. There is so much positive why not dwell on that for a while and see what happens.
20

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20/01/2008 19:24:31
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21

subrosa,

20/01/2008 21:20:39
# 21 Ah I see Dave, the Queen was entertaining the London elite via one of 'her' Officers Messes. This happens quite regularly when dignitaries want somewhere to entertain but don't wish to use their own premises. The MOD pays for these soirees although the resident Officers will have to cough up their contribution. So nice rotation of taxpayers cash isn't it.

As I said there are few military cooks left in the UK. Either this 'elite' mess has a few or else a high class company was brought in to do the catering. Possibly the later, gain at taxpayers expense. I assure you the standard of catering in most messes is dreadful. My last meal in one was at a Passing Out parade at Sandhurst when the food was literally inedible. Everyone was too polite to complain of course and I was told by the passing out young officer that he had contributed £75 towards it (£25 a head). Wonder who paid for your socialite?

22

subrosa,

20/01/2008 21:21:40
# 24 Ooops sorry I meant latter not later. Apologies!
23

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 13/04/2008 23:05:02
Is this supposed to be news?? Hitler plowed through the British expeditionary forces in France like they wirnie even there because they were poorly equiped then. Nothing has changed since. Christ they were only issued with fully automatic weapons in the late 80s and even they were sub standard and prone to faults.
The Royal Navy are floating around in Aluminium boats I wont even deem to call them ships which are poorly armed and have no air defence systems. The RAF are only slightly better off with up to date fighters but no bombers or support aircraft Christ they are still using Nimrods as their early warning systems.
The MOD are a bad joke in fact theyre policies border on the treasonous.
Yet our politicians cannae find enough ways in which to use our forces from firefighting and flood defence to illegal invasions of sovereign countries.
Its a joke but nobody laughing.

 

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