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Power shifts behind the throne



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Published Date: 13 January 2008
A RIFT is emerging between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Iran's supreme religious leader, suggesting that the president no longer enjoys Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's full backing.
The move will see Ahmadinejad's grip on power weakened ahead of parliamentary elections in March.

In the years after his election in 2005, criticism from political opponents was usually silenced by Khamenei, who has the final word on state matters and regularly endorsed the president in public speeches. But that support has been conspicuously absent in recent months.

There are numerous possible reasons for Ahmadinejad's loss of support, but diplomats and analysts in Iran all point to one overriding factor: the US. An American intelligence report last month said Iran had suspended its nuclear weapons programme in 2003 in response to international pressure. The report sharply reduced the threat of a military strike against Iran, allowing the Iranian authorities to focus on domestic issues, with important parliamentary elections looming in March.

"Now that Iran is not under the threat of a military attack, all contradictions within the establishment are surfacing," said Saeed Leylaz, an economic and political analyst. "The biggest mistake that Americans have constantly made toward Iran was adopting radical approaches which provided the ground for radicals in the country to take control."

Iran had been under increasing international pressure for its refusal to suspend its uranium enrichment programme, which can be pursued for either peaceful or military purposes. In separate speeches last year, American and French officials did not rule out a military attack on Iran if it continued its defiance.

While the pressure was on, Iranian leaders were reluctant to let any internal disagreements show. Senior officials, including Khamenei, constantly called for unity and warned that the enemy, a term commonly used to refer to the Untied States, could take advantage of such differences.

The Iranian presidency is a largely ceremonial post. But Ahmadinejad had used the office to espouse an economic populism that built a strong following among the country's middle and lower classes and made him a political force to be reckoned with. That popularity won him the strong backing of the supreme leader.

But the relationship began to sour, even before the US intelligence report was released. A source close to Khamenei said the ayatollah was especially disappointed with Ahmadinejad's economic performance, which has led to steep inflation in the cost of basic necessities, from food to rents to property values.

"Mr Khamenei supported Mr Ahmadinejad because he believed in his slogans of helping the poor," said the source. "But his economic performance has been disastrous. Their honeymoon is certainly over."

Economists have long criticised Ahmadinejad's economic policies, warning that his reliance on oil revenues to finance loans to the poor and to buy cheap imports would lead to inflation and cripple local industries. Inflation has increased to 19% currently from 12% in October 2006, according to figures released by the Iranian Central Bank.

Khamenei said earlier this month in a speech in the central city of Yazd that "the government has certain unique characteristics, but like any other government there are mistakes and shortcomings". He added that continuous criticism can undermine the government, but he refrained from praising it as he has in the past.

There have been other signs lately that Ahmadinejad is falling from favour. Recently the supreme leader appointed a hard-line military leader, Mohammad Zolghadr, as deputy head of the armed forces for Basij, a volunteer militia force. Ahmadinejad had dismissed Zolghadr last month as deputy interior minister for security affairs.

Ahmadinejad appeared angered by interference from Iran's former chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, who visited Egypt in his capacity as the leader's representative at the Supreme National Security Council. Ahmadinejad said that his government had a Foreign Ministry that determined the country's foreign policy, and a ministry spokesman said Larijani's trip was personal.

Larijani's trip was important because Tehran cut ties with Egypt, a predominantly Sunni country, when Cairo signed a peace agreement with Israel in 1979 and provided asylum for the deposed Shah of Iran. Larijani, who is a close aide to Khamenei, brushed off the remarks from the Foreign Ministry and announced that his talks with the Egyptian authorities had gone well.

In a further provocation, Larijani registered on Friday to run in the Islamic state's March parliamentary election. The vote will pit conservatives, who now dominate the assembly, against more moderate politicians seeking a comeback.

In the face of rising criticism, Ahmadinejad has for the first time admitted that Iran was suffering from rising prices. Previously he had called inflation a fiction invented by his political enemies. But he blamed the problem on former governments, parliament and what he called a 36% increase in the price of goods in international markets.

Mohammad Reza Katouzian, a conservative and one-time supporter of Ahmadinejad, said recently that the president "should offer solutions instead of explaining past mistakes".

Hassan Rassouli, head of Baran, a non-governmental organisation created by the previous reformist president Mohammad Khatami after he left office, said Ahmadinejad tried only to justify inflation, not to do anything about it.

"Either the president has no idea how inflation has affected people's lives or he prefers to talk unprofessionally without referring to figures," he said.

Relations between the US and Iran will always be difficult – as the encounter between Iranian speedboats and three US Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz last Monday made clear – but perhaps not impossible, many here are saying.

Liberal commentators in Iran and abroad have long argued that hard-line policies in the West only strengthen hard-line politicians in Iran, and conversely that lowering the threat level enhances the position of moderates.

With conservative politicians who supported Ahmadinejad in 2005 increasingly turning into his fiercest critics, and with Khamenei saying recently that Iran's lack of contact with the US "does not mean that we will not have relations indefinitely", the pundits would seem, for now, to be on the right track.

Nuclear plea

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said yesterday Iran's nuclear file should be handled by the International Atomic Energy Agency not the United Nations Security Council, which has imposed two rounds of sanctions on Tehran.

Khamenei, Iran's most powerful figure, also told visiting IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei that the United States "cannot bring the Iranian nation to its knees" with pressure over Tehran's nuclear programme.

Washington is pushing for a third round of sanctions on Iran for refusing to halt sensitive nuclear work, which the US fears will be used to build atomic bombs. Iran insists its aims are peaceful.

"Americans are mistaken by thinking that by pressuring Iran over the nuclear issue they can break Iran," Khamenei said.

"By bringing this and other issues to the fore, they cannot bring the Iranian nation to its knees."

He insisted Iran had no intention of building bombs. "The Islamic Republic of Iran has repeatedly said that building or using nuclear weapons is against sharia (Islamic law] ... Iran has always remained committed to the NPT (nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty]," he said.

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1

Conan the Librarian™,

13/01/2008 01:02:59
Do we believe him?
2

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 13/01/2008 02:56:07
nope never
3

Richardinho,

13/01/2008 06:58:54
what Iran does is it's business. None of ours.
4

donald,

glasgow 13/01/2008 07:04:07
Did you believe Bliar?
5

donald,

glasgow 13/01/2008 07:04:24
Did you believe Bliar?
6

Silence of the Yams,

13/01/2008 12:57:04
Bush is itching to take out this evil upstart and his raghead controllers before his term ends, and I hope he does.
7

Finnking,

Lempäälä 13/01/2008 13:03:20
Even Khamenei knows that Ahmadinejad is a nutter that is going to end up starting world war III.
8

Glenshellach,

Winnipeg 13/01/2008 14:22:03
Having spent a year in Iran I can concur that the Iranian culture is such that they have a need to talk and discuss issues. Anything that causes them to lose face, such as playing hardball, is counter productive.

The only way to deal with Iran is to negotiate with them, do not demonize them.
9

Sanny,

Glasgow 13/01/2008 15:10:14
We may well believe that Ahmadinejad is mentally unstable or a nutter and Iranians may well agree, but he their nutter not ours, let them deal with him.
So long as we in the West continue to hold and further develop Nuclear WMD then how can we expect others not to develop them for their own protection against US. The West’s attitude is one ‘of its OK for us to have WMD because we can be trusted but not others because WE don’t trust them’. This is the untenable position of a bully and eventually the oppressed will turn against the bully.

The WMD is only part of the problem. Yesterday I heard Bush’s speech in Kuwait where he stated that he would win the war and bring democracy to the M.E. Did he bother to ask the people he wishes to democratise if they wanted the democratic system? No! This religious bigot cannot understand that “the American Dream” is an illusion and to many outside of the US of A it is a nightmare. In many ways the Western way of government is alien to an Islamic community; just as Shari law is alien to justice in the West. The sooner our leaders recognise this the better for us all.
10

Globetrotter_scot,

Edinburgh 13/01/2008 16:13:41
6. Silence.
You are a racist.

7. "Finnking"
Sorry, how is he a nutter again?
With your remarks regarding WW3, consider that it is more likely with US troops, warships and bases surrounding Iran. How would the US react if Iran sent a warship in international waters surrounding US mainland?
11

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada ex-Perth & Glesca' 13/01/2008 16:20:29
Does SoS not have proof-readers that could catch this one?

"...the enemy, a term commonly used to refer to the Untied States,..."
-----
I always felt that a better name would be...
"The Aggravated States of America." (just joking)
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
12

W Smith,

Middle East 13/01/2008 16:26:05
Iran - an oil rich nation that has to ration petrol.

America's fault then, eh Salmond?
13

Silence of the Yams,

13/01/2008 18:20:33
10. Explain how being anti Islamo fascist dictatorships is "racist", or shut up.

I hope Bush sends in the B1's and bunker busters soon.
14

Richard M,

Scottish Raj 13/01/2008 18:25:51
No doubt Mr Ahmadinejad will tell us that he is developing nuclear power purely to reduce Iran's carbon footprint
15

Globetrotter_scot,

13/01/2008 18:49:36
13. Silence
"Bush is itching to take out this evil upstart and his raghead controllers"

For one thing you are displaying extreme ignorance - Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persians.
A "raghead" is a degoratory term for someone of arab origin, hence is racist.

In what way is Iran an "Islamo fascist dictatorship"?
Last I heard it was a democracy, if an imperfect one.

"I hope Bush sends in the B1's and bunker busters soon"
It appears you are one of THOSE people, constantly crying out for war till your blue in the face. You fail to grasp the value of a human life, even more so sitting in front of a computer screen. Why don't you travel to Iraq, and see the true results of your thoughts?
16

Silence of the Yams,

13/01/2008 19:02:32
Where did I say they were Arabs you leftist fool?
17

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13/01/2008 19:05:48
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18

Globetrotter_scot,

13/01/2008 19:20:43
16. 17. Both Silence.

Lol "sorry" mate, I ajudged from your comments that you thought Persians were actually arabic.

Are you laughing, mate? I could use the age old cliche "I feel sorry for you being filled with so much hate". Being so racist and all. Then again, you are not worth my time.

A message from one of my good "raghead" friends...

"Pogue Mahone"
19

Finnking,

Coop 13/01/2008 20:27:23
10 Globetrotter_scot,Edinburgh

"Sorry, how is he a nutter again?
With your remarks regarding WW3, consider that it is more likely with US troops, warships and bases surrounding Iran. How would the US react if Iran sent a warship in international waters surrounding US mainland?"

I guess blaming all the worlds problems on the US is an easy way out but it certainly does not help the situation nor is it remotely correct. Talk is cheap, it always has been.
20

Kilted Hulk,

Lacey 13/01/2008 20:31:50
To#9 and a lot of others, it is my humble opinion that one of the reasons we want to "westernize" other parts of the world is to stem the flow of immigrants to our shores by turning these immigrants countries in to similitude's of where they wish to go.

To#10, the us would not cross the line, but if the other side did we would totally "smoke" them and not harass them, and #6 isn't a racist just passionate.

To#11..Well haggis my friend those who are in a state of "Aggravation" usually find that MOST aggressors leave them alone, that's why a large number of us like to "Talk softly and carry a big stick, as opposed to shtick"

To#15..."A "raghead" is a derogatory term for........" For any one wearing a turban of any kind and espouses to a non Christian faith and is not racist but once again passionate.

No government makes good decisions ALL of the time, that is why we re-elect every 4 years. While I have found a lot of faults with my President, in my opinion he is the best person offered at a time of crisis, surly not Gore or Kerry who kept medals he threw over the fence. If I cant find anyone better then I will support the guy who will "Toe the mark" when called upon. None of us know what information a leader is given with which to make a decision. All I know is that while neglecting our borders and letting gas prices rise to a point where a working man can no longer afford to drive to work when mass transit doesn't run, and still have a six-pack (Pint) or two at weeks end with a stake&bake of his or her choice, this president has taken a rag-tag, under staffed, under supplied totally all volunteer armed force and demonstrated our ability to respond to a gross slap in the face.......AND kept it from happening again, thank you very much.
21

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta... captured Mexican territory 1845 13/01/2008 21:06:23
13
Silence of the Yams,
13/01/2008 18:20:33

------------------------------------------------

Dude , I'd like to see you with our ignorant War Criminal Pres. Bush try to take out the Ruskies.

Dude U are so lame. Ur the type of American who would try for World Hegemony if you and rednecks like Bush thought you'd get away with it.

Got news for U dude. Putin and his Ruskies with their NUKE arsenal is your nightmare. And they can stop U dead in your tracks.

As an American I say thank goodness for the Ruskies.
and their VODKA.

GC
22

Globetrotter_scot,

13/01/2008 21:22:29
19. Finnking.

Where am I blambing all the worlds problems on the US?
I was just showing that US forces stationed so close to Iranian territory will only increase the likelyhood of a skirmish breaking out, potentially leading to WW3.

Imagine if Iran started building bases in Mexico and Canada, and had ships surrounding the mainland? Simply reversing the situation.

I would frankly be terrified if I was an Iranian. And not of the government. You see what the US army has done next door, and now see what they are threatening to do to you. Talk is cheap when lives are on the line.
23

Sambo,

The deep south 13/01/2008 21:24:56
#20 Kilted Hulk
"All I know is that while neglecting our borders and letting gas prices rise to a point where a working man can no longer afford to drive to work".
Try paying the gas prices in the UK.
24

Globetrotter_scot,

13/01/2008 21:34:53
20. Kilted Hulk.
"To#15..."A "raghead" is a derogatory term for........" For any one wearing a turban of any kind and espouses to a non Christian faith and is not racist but once again passionate."

Nope, i'm afraid it is actually racist. You don't have "passionate" people commenting on issues such as immigration, reffering to african americans as "nig.gers". Its just something you don't do. I was chatting to my lebanese friend just a few seconds ago and she cert thinks "raghead" is racist.

I consider myself passionate, but I am certianly not prejudiced against anyone. And i certianly dont use derogatory terms.

Lol mate, I think G. Bush is alot more intelligent and sinister than he makes out. Theres alot of thinking going on behind the lines... these people plan for EVERY eventuality.

Its just to bad anyone can defend the actions, thoughts and opinions of humanity.
25

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 13/01/2008 22:46:40
#22 Globetrotter

The real question for you to answer is would you rather have a US aircraft carrier in international waters protecting you or a Iranian one threatening you? It seems you have a short memory. Iran has a long history of sponsoring terrorism. It was not too long ago they captured several British sailors & Marines and held them hostage, they have been sending weapons and money to terrorists all over the place for years.

And before the terrorist appeasers mention the US and the UK and other countries going into Iraq, it was because Iraq continually defied several UN sanctions. Iraq could have easily prevented the war, the ball was always in their court.
26

Globetrotter_scot,

13/01/2008 23:15:13
22. Nancy.

No, no, no!
Iran has never attacked another country in 2000 years, look what the US has done just next door in iraq. The US has a long history of subversion and violence, not to mention outright support for terrorism.
The US aircraft carriers are hardly protecting anybody.

Aye, Iran may very well be sponsoring terrorism too. Frankly, I think they are. But even then, that gives the US no justification to destroy a country and kill potentially millions of people. That is not even the true reason why they would invade Iran (and I do not believe it is a "war for oil"). There are many complex reasons to attack Iran. The fight against terrorism is not one of them.

You do know that the US is supporting and arming Kurdish terrorist groups in Iran, yeah?

Lol hardly a terrorist appeaser. I hate terrorism with every fibre of my being... honestly.

Just one thing: in what way did Iraq violate sanctions?
Iraq was supposed to give up its WMD program, but how could Iraq honestly do that if it likely never had one in the first place?

In fact, there is absolutely nothing Iraq could have done to prevent the war. The decision to invade was taken well over a year before march 2003.
27

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 13/01/2008 23:45:27
#26 Globetrotter

Here you had me going thinking you were being honest and misinformed, now you make it clear you are both misinformed and dishonest. Everyone knows Iraq was given months to abide to the UN resolutions and they just thumbed their noses at them.

Had they just abided to 1/2 of the ones they blatantly ignored the war would have never happened. Did you forget they lost Dessert Storm after they invaded Kuwait (The raping and killing and land grabbing in Kuwait) I guess that's not part of your selective memory either just like not remembering Iraq constantly violated all those UN resolutions.

Your selective memory probably tells you that after WWII that Germany & Japan (The Losers) had rules to live by and did so. I realize you do not like the US and want them to look bad and you being trained by socialists pick away at freedom at every opportunity and gladly pick the side of extreme radical terrorists in Iran than freedom loving people in the west.
28

Globetrotter_scot,

14/01/2008 00:13:56
One last short comment before I head tae bed...

27.
What resolutions were those?
To give up its non-existent nuclear program?
I assure you I am not mis-informed or dishonest in the slightest. Have you heard of "project for a new american century"? It makes quite interesting reading. Google it. See the people who signed the website.

Saddam was a nutcase, this much is true. But I fail to see the relavence of your connection to invading Kuwait and the war after the sanctions in 2003.

Could you please tell me which specific sanctions Iraq "violated"?

AGAIN I fail to see the relavence of WW2. And I must admit I have difficulty remembering back that far lol.

Oh I actually really like the US people. There are certian cultural aspects that could do with improving though. What I really hate is the attitude of the US government and its foreign policies towards other nations.
No one nation has a right to mantain a global hegemony.

" trained by socialists "
I like that cheers ^^
I don't consider myself socialist or communist or anything. I guess something i pride myself on is having opinions not influence by external stimulii.

One thing I do not have is a black and white image of the world: I judge by individuals not the collective. Irans government is not full of radical terrorists and the US government is certianly not freedom loving.

Oh I love freedom, and I happen to know what true freedom is. I certianly don't support extremism on any front. I'm a wee bit too tired to really deal with what your saying so maybe some other time...

Night and peace

I just wish some others could wish for peace...
29

Drum Major,

14/01/2008 02:22:21
Saddam's distrust of the US came from being given a wink and a nod to invade Kuwait (a very undemocratic country) then made out as the demon.

Silence I trust as a fully fledged paid up member of the War Mongers Association you are currently serving as an infantry forward scout in the middle east. If not, you are as bad as any politician who sits on his funamental orifice while sending others in to do his dirty work.

The US Patriot Act is modelled on Nazi Germany legislation to remove the rights of certain groups of law abiding people. The US is a great country but while the Patriot Act and the US health system (or lack of one) exists any visit I make to North America will be to Canada.
30

howard sutherland,

bahamas 14/01/2008 03:32:43
29 Drum Major,14/01/2008 02:22:21

We spend the winters in the Bahamas and I've been to the US and Canada. Trust me when I say that you do not want to choose Canadian health care over US. Canadian is only slightly better than that in the UK.

I talk to several American tourists each winter and they tell me that most everyone has wonderful health care, the ones who choose not to have insurance or can not afford it end up with coverage similar to that in Canada or the UK.
31

57Nomad,

california 14/01/2008 09:19:41
#29 drum major

drum major said:

"The US Patriot Act is modelled on Nazi Germany legislation to remove the rights of certain groups of law abiding people."

No, drum major, it's not. Every single country in Europe has now, and has had, much more restrictive laws than those called for in the Patriot Act. What you are saying is an out and out lie. And you, pal, are a liar.

The US health care system, and here I am referring to actual services, eg, modern, up-to-date equipment, well trained doctors, specialists, short waiting periods for vital services are superior to anything anywhere. What we don't have is socialized medicine and we never are. You cannot legislate service. You can pass all the legislation you want but that's not going to speed up that liver transplant you need. Socialized medicine is for peasants and serfs who are too spinless to stand on their own two feet.

No one in the US is denied health services. People too poor to pay themselves, for any reason, lack of insurance or lack of money are covered by state programs. In California it's called MediCal. These programs are always administered more effectively at the state and local level than they are from Washington. You don't know what you're talking about.

As far as where you go if you visit North America, here's some advice, don't get real sick in Canada, you will be wait listed. In the US the care is prompt and superior. It may comfort you to cop the attitude you have but that doesn't change reality. Oh, don't come to the US, we don't want you here.

32

Drum Major,

14/01/2008 10:03:35
When you say socialised medicine is for peasants you obviously dont recognise that while you may be a rich country a very large portion of your population are in your words "peasants". A large portion of your forces are made up of people who are there for economic reasons only. Dont tell me otherwise I have spent a lot of time with them. Serving on active duty is a means to support the family at home. Do an extra tour, as even with the danger it is better than the ghetto at home. This is a way to ensure a volunteer army is available to fight the most unpopular wars. Bush & cronies rely on this underclass to fight their wars.
33

Drum Major,

14/01/2008 10:14:54
British governments used this underclass sytem to send Scottish Regiments around the world to fight their battles. When the Scots will no longer play this game they try to destroy the history and status of those proud regiments. They could not stand the thought that the No1 Regiment of Foot, The Royal Scots was the oldest regiment in the British Army so they lumped them with the KOSB another proud regiment as the Royal Scots Borderers in the Royal Regiment of Scotland. A similar fate was bestowed on the other Scottish Regiments.
34

right of center,

Chicago 14/01/2008 13:49:19
32 Drum Major - Banging the Wrong Drum

Drum Major wrote "A large portion of your forces are made up of people who are there for economic reasons only. Dont tell me otherwise I have spent a lot of time with them. Serving on active duty is a means to support the family at home"

That's a very insulting thing for you to make up. I put in over 20 years in the National Guard and loved every minute of it, not because I took a pay cut every time I went on active duty but because I wanted to do it. I also worked side by side on several occasions on active duty with my full time counter parts and I rarely found anyone painting the dismal picture you are painting. The media spends a lot of time searching for those who can’t make it in the military and want to complain to put a camera in front of. It's volunteer for a reason, to keep the gutless complainers like you out that would only put others in danger. BTW, I love the heath care in the US I receive from my civilian employer and look forward to turning 60 and receiving my TriCare for life for putting in my 20+ years with the Guard.

Go cry somewhere else.
35

Goomba,

Ohio, US 14/01/2008 14:43:11
First, Iranians are not Arabs. Second, we would never use "B-1s and bunker busters." The B-2 is much better for this job! HAHA!
36

57Nomad,

california 14/01/2008 15:59:18
#32 Drum Major

Drum Major said:

"When you say socialised medicine is for peasants you obviously dont recognise that while you may be a rich country a very large portion of your population are in your words "peasants"."

What you don't realize is that you have no idea how clueless you are. We have no peasants. We have no class system. These are European notions and you project them on the US like Pavlov's salivating hounds. We understand you can't help yourselves but that only makes you pitiable, not right.

And when you say "don't tell me," you are wasting your breath. Every single person who has a job of any kind has one for 'economic reasons.' Your assertion, therefore, is meaningless since in can be applied to anyone with a job.
37

57Nomad,

california 14/01/2008 16:10:00
To all:

I have noted with alarm the use of the derogatory term, "Raghead." It's time we stopped this kind of cultural slander and grew up a little. From now on I urge posters to use the kinder a gentler, and certainly more politically correct term, "diaper beanie."
38

Reading Public 1,

Wisc 14/01/2008 18:13:05
#28, Globetrotter_Scot,

Here are some resolutioms for you to chew on. You obviously do not know what you are talking about.;
"S/Res/1284 of 17/12/1999 Replacement of UNSCOM by UNMOVIC.
S/Res/1205 of 05/11/1998 Condemnation of Iraq's decision to halt monitoring.

S/Res/1194 of 09/09/1998 Condemnation of Iraq's decision to halt all UNSCOM disarmament work.

S/Res/1154 of 02/03/1998 Endorsement of the MOU on access to Presidential sites.

S/Res/1137 of 12/11/1997 Condemnation of Iraq's behavior, imposition of travel ban.

S/Res/1134 of 23/10/1997 Condemnation of Iraq's behaviour, further sanctions threatened.

S/Res/1115 of 21/06/1997 Condemnation of Iraq's refusal to grant access and interviews.

S/Res/1060 of 12/06/1996 Condemnation of Iraq's refusal to grant inspection access.

S/Res/1051 of 27/03/1996 Approval of export /import monitoring mechanism for Iraq.

S/Res/715 of 11/10/1991 Approval of Ongoing Monitoring and Verification plan.

S/Res/707 of 15/08/1991 Iraq's compliance; inspection flights; Iraq to provide disclosures.

S/Res/699 of 17/06/1991 Iraq to be liable for all costs associated with UNSCOM's work.

S/Res/687 of 03/04/1991 Cease-fire and establishment and mandate of UNSCOM. "

39

mike - across the pond,

beatin the drum... 14/01/2008 20:11:55
dang I missed poking the holes in the US bashers arguments that were well made by others...

anyway, as far as health care...

I've worked in the northern tier most of my life... and there is NOTHING like seeing all those canadians seeking EXPEDIENT health care selling off all they have to come across the border and get the life saving health care they need in the US health care system

nothing like it... nothing more sad...

unless you take into account all those (I believe your term is...) NUMPTIES who claim that the US needs to adopt the canadian system (or some OTHER socialist system)...

yes health care IS expensive... everywhere... its just more available in the US...
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
as far as US forces being made up from "the poor"... bite me... our "poor" have extracated your bacon from the fire no less than twice in the last century...

and as far as "the poor" being forced to re-enlist, yeah not quite... (need I point out to you that ours is a VOLUNTEER force) and the retention bonuses offered are designed to make it difficult to say "No Thank You"... and a retirement plan designed for those who put their 20 years in to start a 2nd career before your 40th birthday... so again... you are wrong!
40

thatscottishwoman,

The Kirkyard 14/01/2008 21:32:10
I hate the awful health care system in the UK, I wish I had quality health care like that in the US. I have to go to the pub and pull out one of my own teeth again after several pints tonight.
41

Agricolus the Dwarf Engineer,

15/01/2008 13:44:07
#'s 1 thru 40:

Wow, such angst. "Can't we all just get along?"

It's a small world, shrinking all the time. Europe, turning itself into an "America across the pond", is borrowing ideas of democracy and economy from America, while we Yanks are borrowing ideas back. We're all one big family.

Sorry about the war stuff, I hope it helps somewhere along the line. Yeah, we opened a can of worms, but the worms were turning into snakes.

As for Iran, I just hope that whatever Nukes they develop (don't let anyone kid you, they are/will be doing it, or will be/are buying them from Russia/China), they don't have a way to transport them very far. I can remember firing off my first firecracker as a kid, them wondering how I can make it explode louder next time.


 

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