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Death sentence: gay Syrian teenager facing deportation



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Published Date: 16 March 2008
HIS only crime was to be gay. For that he was half-drowned, brutally beaten and then fell into a coma. He survived, escaped from jail, fled his country and eventually arrived, exhausted and bedraggled, here in Scotland. And now the Government wants to send him back.
Syrian Jojo Jako Yakob last night pleaded with the Home Office to reverse a deportation order and spare him the certain death he believes he will face if he returns to his country. "I wish to claim asylum and I wish to stay here in Scotland," he said.

Gay rights activists demanded that homosexuals, such as Yakob, who were facing clear persecution in their homeland, should be granted asylum. But a spokesman for the Syrian Embassy responded by describing homosexuality as a "disease", which the country sought to "treat".

The 19-year-old is now to embark on a landmark legal challenge in order to reverse the deportation order so he can spend the rest of his life in Scotland.

Yakob fled his homeland two years ago after managing to survive a harrowing ordeal at the hands of Syrian police and prison guards, when he was arrested for distributing anti-government leaflets.

Following his transfer from police interrogation, prison guards soon discovered that Yakob, a member of the repressed Kurdish minority in the Arab state, was homosexual. He then suffered horrific beatings and was assaulted so badly that he fell into a coma. After being transferred to hospital, he managed to flee to Lebanon making for London, holed up in a lorry.

He applied for asylum and was granted extended leave by the Home Office, but was then arrested in Aberdeen last April after being found in possession of a fake Belgian passport. He was handed a 12-month sentence and sent to Polmont Young Offenders Unit in Falkirk.

His lawyers say his asylum application was then mistakenly withdrawn and, as a result, he has been served with a deportation order, pending a final hearing this May.

If unsuccessful, he will be sent back to Syria. He has been kept at Polmont as a remand prisoner until that date.

His case mirrors that of gay Iranian teenager Mehdi Kazemi, 19, who was this week allowed to stay in Britain after claims that he would be executed if returned to his homeland.

Now, while detained at Polmont, Yakob has appealed against a Home Office deportation order and has instructed top Scottish QC, Mungo Bovey, to fight his case.

Yakob is terrified of being returned to Syria, where homosexuality is illegal, and believes that if he returns, he faces certain death.

Speaking from Polmont last night, Yakob explained why he fears a return to his homeland. "I wish to seek asylum in the UK for a number of reasons," he said.

"My father is a politician with the Yakiti Party – pro-Kurdish and anti-government. I was arrested when I was 15 years of age for possession of anti-government material. These were basic leaflets for my father's political party.

"My father was imprisoned before I left Syria for 13 years for anti-government activity."

Of his arrest, he added: "I was then tortured. I was beaten. At one point I was put up against a wall and a handgun pointed at me. I was told that if I did not tell the authorities what they wanted to know they would shoot me dead. I did not tell them anything, I did not think they would shoot me.

"The police officer then shot me in my upper left arm. At that point, I told them what they wanted to know as I believed that they would shoot me dead."

Yakob says he was held in police cells for 20 days without charge and subjected to daily electric shock torture and beatings before being transferred to Ahdas Prison, by the Turkish border.

In prison, he formed a relationship with a gay prisoner named Hassain. Yakob explained: "Hassain was serving a sentence, he told me, for 25 years. He told me that the sentence was only because he was gay.

"The Syrian government claim that they do not imprison people any longer for being gay and that in any event the maximum sentence is three years. This is not true. The Syrian authorities will always find other charges to bring against a person."

After the pair were seen sleeping together in jail, Yakob said he was subjected to systematic beatings, which "went on for days into weeks".

He added: "This was all because I was gay. No questions were asked of me about my father's political party or any other political activity. All the questions related to me being gay.

"I was also subjected to cold-water torture, where I was put in a room and buckets of cold water were constantly thrown over me. I could not remember what day it was or how long I had been in prison.

"One day I woke up in hospital in a nearby town of Kamishli. The doctor who was treating me told me that I had been in a coma for 20 days. He said to the authorities that I could not return to prison as I was not fit and I could not stand trial until I had had a rest. He suggested that I be sent home for recuperation."

Yakob then decided to flee to the UK. "I went home and after two weeks or so I was feeling better. By that time I had decided that the only option I had was to leave Syria. I left Syria and in 20 days or so arrived in the UK by lorry at Dover. I wish to claim asylum and I wish to stay here in Scotland."

News of Yakob's case last night sparked outrage among Scotland's gay rights and equality groups.

Stonewall director Calum Irving said: "We have serious concerns about the UK's immigration policy, especially since it appears that people are being sent back to countries where their safety is not guaranteed and where they could be persecuted just for being gay."

A spokeswoman for Edinburgh-based Equality Network added: "I feel that we shouldn't be sending people back to countries where they will be persecuted, even if they entered the country illegally."

But a spokesman for the Syrian Embassy in London denied last night that torture of gay people took place. He said: "Homosexuality is illegal in Syria, but there are no special units to deal with this problem.

"People are not prosecuted – society looks at this as a disease for which they can be treated – it is a similar position to that taken by the Vatican. I cannot give a clearer answer."

Yakob will appear before a full immigration hearing in Glasgow on May 7 to determine his fate. Yakob claims that he wants to start a new life in Scotland.

He said: "If I was to return to Syria, I would either be returned to jail for my political activities, for having left the country and being gay, or alternatively I would be put into the army for the three-year period.

"It is likely that they would put me into the army on the basis that the army would kill me one way or the other."

Reprieve for gay Iranian

A gay teenager from Iran remains on temporary reprieve after Home Secretary Jacqui Smith vowed to reconsider his deportation to the Islamic Republic.

Meanwhile, human rights activists have vowed to take Mehdi Kazemi's case to the EU courts, which on Friday issued a resolution asking the Netherlands and the UK to "find a common solution to ensure that he is granted asylum or protection on EU soil".

The youth arrived in England in 2005 to learn English and applied for asylum soon after learning of the execution of his same-sex partner under Iran's sodomy laws. After the refusal of his request for asylum, Kazemi fled to Holland to avoid deportation from the UK.

However, a request from British authorities to return the 19-year-old in order to complete the deportation process was upheld last week by the Dutch Supreme Court. After an outcry from gay rights campaigners, who claim that the youngster faces execution, the Home Secretary has stepped in to review the decision.

ONLINE PETITION

We, the undersigned, urge the British government to rescind the deportation order against Jojo Jako Yakob and grant him asylum to stay in this country. We believe it would be an act of inhumanity to force his return to Syria, where it is almost certain he would be tortured and even killed on account of his sexuality.

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1

Gary McL,

Edinburgh 16/03/2008 00:15:54
I support this petition. Signed: Gary McLean Quin EH7 4JH
2

Doreen McGeady,

16/03/2008 00:42:17
I totally support this petition, signed Doreen McGeady
3

subrosa,

16/03/2008 00:47:51
He said: "If I was to return to Syria, I would either be returned to jail for my political activities, for having left the country and being gay, or alternatively I would be put into the army for the three-year period.

"It is likely that they would put me into the army on the basis that the army would kill me one way or the other."

It seems he knew the score regarding political activities and he also knew the punishment.
4

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16/03/2008 01:03:04
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Yane,

melbourne 16/03/2008 02:10:24
If it helps to have an international petition I sign —
Elaine Fell
6

Julian.,

edinburgh 16/03/2008 02:26:40
Dragonhead,

I suppose if you live in a country like China where they execute political opponents you would have a view like that.

Next you'll be telling us that Tinannamen Square was resonable use of force.
7

The Daleks,

Longmen 16/03/2008 03:12:04
He should have sought asylum in the NEAREST safe country to Syria. Scotland's name may start with the same first letter as Syria's, but last time I looked, Scotland was in Europe and Syria was in Asia.

The only petition I'll be signing is one to have him sent elsewhere.
8

Dominic Gomes,

India 16/03/2008 04:42:47
I totally support this petition, signed Dominic Gomes
9

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 16/03/2008 04:55:58
Why does his sexual orientation play such a big part of this story. He is a political activist trying to bring down his own government who came to Scotland and partook in illegal activities here.

I trust that the authorities who review the case will consider the relevant facts and ignore his bleatings about the types of sexual activities he enjoys!
10

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16/03/2008 05:02:46
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sharon g,

16/03/2008 05:34:29
i support this petition.sharon grierson
12

WeeBerty,

16/03/2008 06:08:30
What is to stop ALL asylum seekers saying they are gay and blah blah .....

So we are a haven for gays now?

Say u r gay and in you come sort thing

Beyond belief.

Masonic judges? I lived opposite a Masonic hall and I swear on all I hold dear - every second one that went in it was a cop.

Sharon, should we let every gay in the world in - even those who simply claim it?

13

WeeBerty,

16/03/2008 06:09:40
He wishes to stay here. Er... so would 3/4 people on the planet.
14

WeeBerty,

16/03/2008 06:13:43
He applied for asylum and was granted extended leave by the Home Office, but was then arrested in Aberdeen last April after being found in possession of a fake Belgian passport. He was handed a 12-month sentence and sent to Polmont Young Offenders Unit in Falkirk.

I thought that was ILLEGAL like?

SO if claim to be gay and break the law u can come in like? WHAT has our nation turned into?
15

BenTen,

16/03/2008 06:16:56
Gay has now become the 'in' excuse for political asylum seekers - send one back and you wont hear that excuse again.

This does a dis-service to both genuine refugees and the gay community.
16

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16/03/2008 06:19:56
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Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 06:31:18
Of course this kid should be allowed to stay. Wishing him back there is inhuman on a breathtaking scale. Scottish or Syrian bigots, it does not matter where you come from - your views are reprehensible and shame on you.....

PLEASE consider my name proudly attached to the petition.

18

Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 06:31:50
Oh yeah - and as the Feerst Meenister was just exchanging pleasantries with the representative of another despotic mid-east regime (Iran) are we to expect a similarly feeble response this time? If not then he needs to check his internal contradictions meter... it'll be going off the clock!
19

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 16/03/2008 06:34:19
Let him stay, and the next? and the next? and the next?

The rule is the nearest safe country. Britain is not that to Iran.

This is a loophole that will be exploited.

Time for Alex to exploit this new found friendship with Iran's President.
20

Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 06:34:35
Oh and as for "Open" (No.11) I think that clearly refers to your mouth and not your mind.
21

Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 06:40:48
#20 - you think Iran is a "safe country"???

I would NOT like to be in a car with you as the driver. (or before a revolutionary tribunal with you as the decapitator!)
22

Encephalon,

16/03/2008 06:56:16
A Syrian-so just why is he seeking asylum in this country???????

Get him sent back pronto along with the other asylum-seeking chancers who are taking this country for a ride!

Incidently this exemplifies what a lovely tolerant religion Islam is-the shape of things to come in this country if we do not start to address the problem-ironically because of allowing in too many muslims. Having worked in muslim countries I can testify that the religion is totally incompatible with our culture.

However in saying that it is not all bad-it does have some good points!


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16/03/2008 06:58:24
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Martha,

16/03/2008 07:04:11
Can his story be verified, or is he another agent planted by Iran?
25

Encephalon,

16/03/2008 07:11:42
#15 Wee Berty -the nation has turned into a sick joke-but people are starting to wake up to the fact that the ordinary person is being screwed by its own Government who are not protecting their interests. In fact they are doing exactly the opposite and appear determined to destroy our culture-and then they want you to pledge allegiance-extracting the urine big-time!

There is a recession coming very shortly and things are going to get very ugly-we will see the reality of Scotland's imaginary tolerance re immigrants, asylum seekers and Eastern European economic migrants.
When they start taking the bread from your mouth, steal your house, overburden your social services and education, flood your area with crime- that is when people will react.
26

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16/03/2008 07:13:18
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Keyboard supporter,

16/03/2008 07:19:53
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation (i'd personally hoof him out the country) is the scotsman only having an online petition because of his sexual orientation ? If he was allowed to stay whats to stop any asylum seeker claiming likewise - typically naive moral paiety displayed by pseudo intellectual liberals who only come into contact with immigrants when their eating their chicken jalfrezi at the weekend - try asking residents of numerous council estates like myself who have to deal with mass influx of immigrants what we feel.

Of course if you complain you're just racist - what an utter laughing stock we have become

28

Thierry G.,

West of France 16/03/2008 07:30:59
I would like to sign the petition. The father of a gay daughter, I know now how much gays and lesbians suffer in their own flesh because of their sexuality. There is clearly a great deal of hypocrisy on the subject. The bigoted manly-man comments appended at the end of the article clearly show the limits of the humain brain.
29

Alastair M,

Amsterdam 16/03/2008 07:34:24
I am happy to support this petition.
30

HA,

Beith 16/03/2008 07:38:14
I totally support the right of all gay men and women to be true to their sexual natures, but clearly Scotland is not the first safe country for an individual fleeing persecution in Syria.

This person had a fake Belgian passport, so he already had a support system on the Continent. Therefore one has to ask why he decided to be illegally smuggled into this country when he was already on safe ground.

HE DID NOT NEED TO FLEE TO SCOTLAND FROM EUROPE. HE WAS SAFE THERE.
31

HA,

Beith 16/03/2008 07:42:30
I totally support the right of all gay men and women to be true to their sexual natures, but clearly Scotland is not the first safe country for an individual fleeing persecution in Syria.

This person had a fake Belgian passport, so he already had a support system on the Continent. Therefore one has to ask why he decided to be illegally smuggled into this country when he was already on safe ground.

HE DID NOT NEED TO FLEE TO SCOTLAND FROM EUROPE. HE WAS SAFE THERE.
32

David from Edinburgh,

Hanoi 16/03/2008 07:42:31
As a Scot working in Viet Nam I support this petition, he should be allowed to stay.
33

whateverthename,

16/03/2008 07:42:44
open,
"Any society throughout history that has catered to radical homosexual groups has fallen"
course you can give us a couple of examples
34

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16/03/2008 07:50:11
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Barry Henderson,

London 16/03/2008 07:52:02
Very saddened by the level of bigotry in reaction to this story. Thre seems a definite lack of empathy for the terrible plight of this young man.

Please add my name to the petition.
36

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 16/03/2008 07:52:48
Send him to Malaysia. They have similar views on sodomy. Scotsman NOTE: The majority of posts to this story do not support your petition and must not be counted as such.
37

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 16/03/2008 07:57:32
#34 Start with Rome. England under Edward II did not do so well. I think it was called Bannockburn. There are plenty of other examples.
38

eric,

16/03/2008 08:02:26
11, Paranoia Paradise!
39

Grahamski,

Falkirk 16/03/2008 08:04:40
Mr Salmond's views will be interesting on this, wonder what Mr Soutar and Bishop Devine will let him say? Not very much I shouldn't wonder, still wee Geordie Gallway is another bonnie fechter, he'll stand up for political freedoms wherever they're under threat.....uh-oh he seems to have described this fascistic one party Ba'athist state as the last castle of Arab dignity, surely some mistake?
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Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 08:08:08
#38 - "Start with Rome" - you are a laughing stock

Rome - and before it Greece - where two of the most influential and long lasting of civilizations in human history - whose influence is, incidentally, still felt and beneficial to this day - if gays had a hand in either then you have a LOT to thank them for.

Notice you do not list the "plenty of other examples" Really your bigotry comes through as clearly as your points are feeble. Don't try to hde your bigotry be proud of it. Dont try to cloth it in history - you don't have the evidence. Why don't you just say that plenty of people were tortured, maimed, imprisoned and killed for being homosexual throughout history.... At least that is accurate and something you can be proud of.

"Drum Major" - somehow I doubt that too...!


41

Argyll on line,

Scotland 16/03/2008 08:13:46
Enough of them in Scotland already thanks very much.
42

Kenny A,

16/03/2008 08:17:09
Difficult question this one.

To set things clearly, homosexaulity genuinely revolts me. It goes both against the laws of man and God. Now that is only my position and many will disagree with it. Perhaps its a phobia that is beyond my control in the way that people fear hights or insects, neither bother me for some reason. I am also against people battering gays, hate religious or racial discrimination and have always tried to be tolerent of others views.

However I do not think that this lad should face the death sentence if he does return to Syria. It is however a crime in his native land and that must be taken into account as well as false passports etc.

Each country has different views on the subject and if it is proven he is in real danger if he returns to Syria then a more accepting country could be where he should go. I believe the Netherlasnds and Sweden are fairly tolerent.
43

Kenny A,

16/03/2008 08:18:16
34

Sparta
44

Kenny A,

16/03/2008 08:21:31
34

Macadonia as well but they both could fight, I find it strange that some Islamic countries kill gays when often it is accepted that apart from a few wifes some men also have boyfriends, you see them holding hands in the street.

Very uncomfortable experience watching this.
45

albanman,

16/03/2008 08:22:51
Homophobia - the last acceptable prejudice of narrow minds.

I gladly sign this petition. David Coupar, Edinburgh
46

eric,

16/03/2008 08:26:24
Remember Scottish gay folk pay taxes to education!Id rather live in a street full of gay people .Than Louts hanging around drinking dealing drugs.The more Culture the better .Its already drowning out our own Bigots .
47

Garry Otton,

Glasgow 16/03/2008 08:28:01
In the name of common decency.
48

Kenny A,

16/03/2008 08:37:24
47

Of course they pay taxes but a lot of them also drink and do drugs as well.

I certainly would not choose to live in a street full of druggies or gays because both are seriously against the grain for me.

Now can you explain the culture part of your post, because it looks like you are stating all straight people are druggies and alcoholics without culture.

I do take it was not your intention.
49

Auckland Arab2,

16/03/2008 08:39:23
"was then arrested in Aberdeen last April after being found in possession of a fake Belgian passport. He was handed a 12-month sentence and sent to Polmont Young Offenders Unit in Falkirk."

I don't care if he is gay or not but he broke the law and should be deported. Happy to have law abiding imigrants stay in the country but not crims.
50

eric,

16/03/2008 08:42:30
49.As you and most folk know ,Its NOT gay folk standing at street corners drinking doing drugs .Most of them are law abiding hard working tax paying(thanks )Citizens.The Grain you speak of .That would probably form their oppinions from The Sun newspaper etc.I understand that and respect that.
51

9/11 was an inside job,

We've got enough gays 16/03/2008 08:43:04
Nothing to do with the fact that Britain (Scotland in particuar) has the most generous welfare system in the world. What was wrong with France, Spain, Germany etc?

I have no sympathy for people like him. I'd send the gay chancer back to Syria. I hope he finds the level of persecution in this country so bad that he decides to bugg*er off back to Syria at the first opportunity. We don't want debauched, welfare scrounging migrants over here!
52

Ceolmor,

Canada 16/03/2008 08:46:25
Send him to Canada. Why would he want to stay in a bigoted, racist, homophobic country like Scotland anyway?

I had a tough time growing up in Scotland, just because I was Roman Catholic!
53

E300,

tomich 16/03/2008 08:47:09
Great support from India, Amsterdam, San Francisco, Brisbane, Melbourne, London and Hanoi all for this young illegal immigrant crook to live in Scotland!
54

donald,

glasgow 16/03/2008 08:49:47
"Jojo Yakob, who has asked us not to reveal his identity, is fearful of the authorities in his native Syria. Photograph: AFP"

So why reveal his name then?
55

Tris,

Dundee 16/03/2008 08:53:32

There are some ghastly hateful and incredibly ignorant people in this country, spouting a whole pile of uninformed trash. I wish you the same as you wish him.....for having red hair or for having being short or wearing glasses or something else you can't help. I hope one day you're in a situation where a fake passport may be the only way you can stay alive.

Ignorant scum. I'm ashamed to be in the same country as some of you; I'd rather deport you than him

I sign the petition, and congratulate Scotland on Sunday for its humanity.



I support the petition to keep him in this country.
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mrsbruce,

Livingston 16/03/2008 08:55:54
I support this petition.
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Calum Crubag,

16/03/2008 08:56:38
Who needs Islamic fundamentalists when you have bigots like Dragonhead and Rulesnotrulers. Full of the milk of human kindness, eh chaps? Glad i don't live in your black and white world. I bet yon bigot Devine from the Catholic church is pleased with this too. Yeah, lock up the gays or send them to execution...

next stop - ban condoms, punish adultery and abortion by death, no sex before marriage, stop all sex education, ban films with sex scenes...

then, let's deal with the disabled, the poor, foreigners....


Funny how some people want to regress. Sad f##ks.
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Seoulmate,

The Black Isle 16/03/2008 08:57:21
I am embarrassed and repulsed by some of these comments. I did not think it was possible that people could still have these narrow minded and out of date views. What surprises me is the unnerving vein of hatred that runs through many of the comments. To voice an opinion is your prerogative to voice hatred and spite is unacceptable. It makes me so proud to be Scottish.

Please add my name to the petition.
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eric,

16/03/2008 08:58:06
Everyone is entitled to an oppinion,I think the comments are pretty mild compaired to the bile that came out the Bishops mouth last week.Im Happy things are changing Fast in Scotland.
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Dennis,

North Isles 16/03/2008 09:00:59
I support the petition.

Dennis Gowland, Orkney

sad to see the level of ignorance and bigotry on this thread.
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Canon George Burgon,

Kettering 16/03/2008 09:06:14
I support this young man's right to stay in our country.Being gay is not a disease but a part of the diversity of God given human nature. If the Vatican and Syria are of the same mind then I am thankful I have nothing to do with either of these repressive regimes.
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Jmhzx,

brighton 16/03/2008 09:07:30

Please let this man stay in Scotland

John Maguire
Brighton
England
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eric,

16/03/2008 09:07:38
I support the petition,End.
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Jmhzx,

brighton 16/03/2008 09:11:35

Please let this man stay in Scotland

John Maguire
Brighton
England
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Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 16/03/2008 09:20:34
You know the depressing part of all this is the fact that I am reading the Scotsman in the company of so many hateful bigoted and ill-educated people. Does that say something serious about the Scotsman or about Scotland.

As for the reader (#54) that notes so many contributions from abroad (by no means all of those supporting the petition - but certainly some) - is it any wonder that so many Scots choose to like abroad when Scotland daily becomes a more despoiled land lost to bigots and the ignoramuses.

As for "kenny A" - your numpty talk would drive me to do something much worse - listen to Kenny Gee!!!
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Media 1,

cape town 16/03/2008 09:21:15
Its a sad story, but where do you draw the line?
What if this lad is allowed to stay and suddenly there is 1000 gay muslims wanting asylum?
Are we saying that all countries who have advanced to the point in which they see their way of life as the most perfect, are now responsible for those nations who are less advanced?
Im not saying that the lad should be sent back, but what are we saying about future incidents? Are all the people of the world who face persecution welcome to come and reside in Britain at the expense of the tax payer?
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sceptic,

16/03/2008 09:22:45
This young man should be allowed to stay in Scotland under the supervision of the Lothian and Border Police. They have an ideal senior officer who would surely take an interest in this young man's future, I quote from the recent Edinburgh Evening News article.

"He says he is looking for outgoing males aged 18-40 for "friendship, chat/e-mail and other activities".
The officer, who campaigns for gay rights in the police, said his online presence had allowed other homosexual officers to speak to him about coming out.
"It's a light-hearted bit of frivolous fun," the 55-year-old said.
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Gilmartin,

Philippines 16/03/2008 09:24:54
How many safe countries did this scrounger pass through before claiming asylum in the UK???
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The Ninja,

Bonnie Scotland 16/03/2008 09:27:43
ach, same crap, different day. The p.c brigade jumping up and down and calling us racist, ignorant, bigots, scum etc & why is this ?

"he managed to flee to Lebanon making for London"
Why did he not stop anywhere else on the way ?

"entered the country illegally"
& you want to allow it ?

"fake Belgian passport"
hmm, another law broken.

"top Scottish QC"
& guess who gets to pay for this ?

So, because I/we object to him being here I get branded racist, ignorant, bigoted, scum etc, when are you lot going to wake up & smell the coffee ? we are the laughing stock. I don't care if they are white/brown/black/yellow or green, if they shouldn't be here then THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE !
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McHoot,

Brisbane 16/03/2008 09:29:45
Drum Major you are a nincompoop and a bigot and I am ashamed to live in the same city as you. So you want to send a teenage kid to his likely death, do you? Can't have any'horse's hoofs' in UK, can we? Homophobes like you always concern me. It seems they protest too much. Is there something in your closet you want to tell us about, you mean-spirited SOB?
Let the laddie stay or let him come to Oz if Scotland is too homophobic for him. Well done those caring folk who said he should stay.
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Mikey,

16/03/2008 09:30:37
It's amazing to find all these homophobes online. Then again, I guess we shouldn't be surprised as being online allows these people to vent their spleen without ever having to be called to account.

Homophobes are usually terrified of their own sexuality and see a gay man round every corner. They worry about the size of their appendages and think that lesbians just need a good 'seeing to' to help them mend their ways. They also think that they're God's gift to women and brand women who don't fancy them as lesbians. As well as being homophobic, they tend also to be misanthropic. Ring any bells, boys?

As to this story, did the person enter the UK first or did he transit here from another EU country? If he came here first, he's entitled to the protection of the law, if not, then he can be sent back to his port of entry.
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Peter The Imperfect,

Penelope's Pitstop 16/03/2008 09:30:53
How naive can you get-have a petition to save one asylum seeker who has actually broken the law. No doubt all the Gay lib mob will organise to add their names.

In the interests of democracy -plaese can The Scotsman have another petition to SEND EVERYONE of them back ASAP!
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The Ninja,

Bonnie Scotland 16/03/2008 09:35:21
#71 & #72 - This is exactly the kind of crap I'd expect, it has nothing to do with him being gay, it has to be with him being here ILLEGALY !
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E300,

tomich 16/03/2008 09:38:39
66 Stephen fae Scotland, San Francisco
"You know the depressing part of all this is the fact that I am reading the Scotsman in the company of so many hateful bigoted and ill-educated people. Does that say something serious about the Scotsman or about Scotland.
As for the reader (#54) that notes so many contributions from abroad when Scotland daily becomes a more despoiled land lost to bigots and the ignoramuses."

All that because I said "this young illegal immigrant crook" ought not to be allowed to live in Scotland.
I should further point out that with the young man's criminal record he would not even be allowed(correctly in my view) to visit your adopted homeland.

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Johnnyf,

Scotland 16/03/2008 09:41:37
I support the petition, it's time the government had a good hard look at the draconian laws on deportation. I am not suggesting that we open the floodgates to all but there are special circumstances. I recently knew two young girls who were deported to an African country they fled after their father's political execution.
To "Drum Major" - I suppose your theory explains the chaos in this country under Edward Heath also.
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Peter The Imperfect,

16/03/2008 09:42:45
#56 So anyone who does not share your pink-eyed view of the world and is against being flooded by criminal scroungers is "Ignorant scum" are they. How liberal and informed is that?

Think we can see who the real facists are-ie those who would deny freedom of speech when the clear majority in Scotland do not share their PC liberal views.

The RC Bishop was quite right to speak out against the Gay mafia that is perverting our country. The only problem is the judiciary is second only to the CoE as being the career of choice for these people -so he may get to stay!
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Kenny A,

16/03/2008 09:43:10
66

Stephen got to draw issue with you on this one.

I made my feelings on this issue fairly blunt. Compared to a few of the more fair minded comments posted, yours does not look good.

It always seems to be the gay community complaining about their rights and everyone elses ignorance. Fair enough but they make a hell of a lot of noise, and seem hell bent on converting everyone else to their own beliefs.

If someone straight says different they are vilaffied, and accused of just about everything under the sun.

I am not gay and have stated that fairly clearly, I am a product of my upbring, nature whatever. I do not go out of my way to give anyone different from me a hard time and never have. I have seen on occasions gay folks who are so intollerent of anyone else it is sickining.

I also bloody detest neo nazis, racists, religious lunies and their ilk. I also think that the Bishop mentioned earlier is a pillock.

Now I will probably get it in the neck, but I do not understand the gay lifestyle because it is totaly alien to me and my beliefs and have no wish to try it. Thats my point of view.

Now forgive my ignorance but who is Kenny Gee.
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Dr Murray Hill,

Aberdeen 16/03/2008 09:46:30
I support this petition.
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Dr Murray Hill,

Aberdeen 16/03/2008 09:47:16
I support this petition.
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Media 1,

cape town 16/03/2008 09:49:29
The question is this;
Has the lad broken the law in terms of his visa conditions?
If the answer is yes, he must be dealt with.
The next question is. Where do we draw the line on sending people back to places less advanced than our western worlds? AND, Do we limit it to one person or do we accept 1000, 2000 or even 15 000 (in this case)homosexual muslims?
If homosexuality is illegal in Iran, Sudan or anywhere else for that matter, it is none of our business to intervene. Homosexuality was frowned upon in the western world, it still is in certain quarters..In fact, if you gave power to the christian masses in America, they would round up the homosexuals and murder them in the name of their god fellow. So we are no different in the west, its just that we have strong laws and systems in place that prevent the fundamentalist christian world from taking over.
Personally, I hope the lad is permitted to stay in Scotland, but by doing so I also realise I am opening a can of very dangerous worms,because if the lad is allowed to stay, another 2000 will crawl out the woodwork tomorrow. and then what?
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Happy to be leaving,

Edinburgh 16/03/2008 09:49:46
I sign the petition to keep this man in the country

To all the members of the public who posted their comments regarding this man and his future in this country. Here are a few of questions for you 1. Does entering the country illegally merit execution? 2. Does being gay deserve execution? 3. Does being in posession of a fake pssport deserve execution? 4. Does expressing your minority political beliefs deserve execution? If you answered yes to any or all of the above perhaps you should consider takeing his place on the plane as Syria would be a far more appropriate place for your political values. I for one am glad that my country will do the decent thing (hopefully) and grant this man asylum. I'm just ashamed that my fellow countrymen and women have become so complacent as to the luck we have living in a country that values justice so highly. I only hope that you never experience one percent of the injutices this man has faced.

I really hope that most of you have just not been thinking straight.

If you have... shame on you for valueing human life so lightly.
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www.dundeeforum.co.uk,

Dundee 16/03/2008 09:50:47
Drew33

I would be careful with your language as their are laws which deal with hate and you are dangerously close to that.
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Boy Wonder,

16/03/2008 09:50:48
I happily support the petition. Not because of his homosexuality, but because of his home country's vilification and savage treatment of their gay population

Nice to see all the homophobes coming out of the woodwork yet again. Keep shouting you lot ... you're only identifying yourselves if Gay Militants ever decide to take up arms against you! :D
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www.dundeeforum.co.uk,

Dundee 16/03/2008 09:54:20
I support the petition to grant ayslum to this young man.
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Alan RH,

Edinburgh 16/03/2008 09:55:01
I fully support this petition. Alan Henderson
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Transparent?,

Scotland 16/03/2008 10:00:40
Believe this 'guy' and you'll believe anything!

Another insult to our intelligence.
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Peter The Imperfect,

Penelope's Pitstop 16/03/2008 10:01:25
#84 " I would be careful with your language as their are laws which deal with hate and you are dangerously close to that."


#85 "Nice to see all the homophobes coming out of the woodwork yet again. Keep shouting you lot ... you're only identifying yourselves if Gay Militants ever decide to take up arms against you"


Thank you for illustrating my point with your "threats".

We can see who the real facists are-ie those who would deny freedom of speech when the clear majority in Scotland do not share their PC liberal views.


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It's me!,

16/03/2008 10:05:47
He could have found safe asylum much closer to Syria than Scotland.

He was arrested for distributing anti-government leaflets, not for being a homosexual.

How did the prison guards discover he is homosexual? I presume it is not tatooed on his forehead so was he found to be conducting sex this way by the guards. I'm not condoning the action of the guards he claims to have suffered. There is no corroboration for this claim.

There is no way he was 'holed up' in a lorry for a journey from Lebanon to the UK. He had to get off the lorry at some point during the journey. He could have applied for refuge in any country from Italy onwards.

I doubt if he would be executed in say, Bahrain or Dubai, so why not ask these moslem countries which are already accepting foreign labour if they will accept him.

Scotland is not the only safe place he can find. Personally I believe he came to Scotland because it is the best bet for benefits. They are not so kind in Italy.
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Kenny A,

16/03/2008 10:05:53
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Clever comment wonder boy, know how to scare the straight majority.

I just wish people would get a grip. Forget this mans sexual orientation, is he in danger if he is sent back. Did he have a false passport, did he break the laws in Scotland.

I also note there was nowhere near this level of corrospondance about the woman recently sent back to Ghana with terminal kidney failure.

Is that because she was black, a woman or just because some bleeding hearts out there could not give a dam. I signed up to keep her here.

Do not support this petition because I do not have enough information. If its only because he gay and may be killed thats unfair. If he has broken the laws of Scotland, tough. Thats life.

Hope it all works out well though.

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Keir Hardie,

Inverness 16/03/2008 10:06:10
I totally support this petition. Keir Hardie
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subrosa,

16/03/2008 10:06:22
I'm not quite comfortable with this.

*This chap broke the law of his own country so he decided to get out because he knew he'd be sent for a stint in the army if found out.

* He's found in UK with a false passport. He's obviously got money to buy the passport. Most illegals don't even bother with one.

* Suddenly he announces he's gay. Funny that. Just the other day another muslim announced he was gay too and he's been allowed to stay.

I know I'm a cynic but you have to be on some occasions. What's wrong with the Syrian army anyway?
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Peter The Imperfect,

Penelope's Pitstop 16/03/2008 10:09:47
#83
It is not "luck" that Scotland is a liberal democracy-luck has absolutely nothing to do with it.

It is because our forefathers fought for our political rights and our laws, culture and heritage are based on Judeo-Christian values-Syria's culture is different because it is based on Islam.

It is incidently very racist of you to assume that ours is superior!
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www.dundeeforum.co.uk,

16/03/2008 10:10:12
#89 Hating someone because of their sexuality is as distasteful and unnacceptable as hating someone for their colour.

Your weak attempt to mask hatred as an infringement on free speech is frankly pathetic.

What you want is the right to deny other humans that same rights you enjoy.
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Dr Colin Roth,

Sheffield, UK 16/03/2008 10:11:39
It's sad to see the intensity and prevalence of bigotry that's been flushed out by this story, but it gladdens my heart to see Scotland on Sunday taking a civilised line nowadays, placing the story in a position of such prominence and writing a le