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Published Date: 06 May 2007
LABOUR was wrong. Walking into work the morning after the SNP victory I didn't see one single horseman of the apocalypse. Neither were there any plagues of locusts or rivers of blood or convoys of cars with suitcases strapped to the roof accelerating towards the English Border. It was a perfectly normal Saturday morning. A discarded kebab. A few hangovers. A very Scottish revolution.
In 1989, when the Scottish Constitutional Convention held its first meetings to press the case for home rule, one observer looked at the grey ranks of churchmen, trade unionists and council leaders and remarked how ordinary it all seemed. He was told
by a wiser colleague that this was precisely what made the convention such a powerful force.

Almost two decades on, Scotland's first SNP government is about to arrive, not with a bang, but with a bacon roll and a bottle of Irn-Bru. Scotland has changed, utterly, but we're unlikely to get overexcited about it. It's not in our nature. For the most part, Scottish voters have chosen the SNP simply because they fancy a bit more sparkle, a touch more swagger, in the way their country is run.

In Alex Salmond that's certainly what we're going to get. All of a sudden, government has personality. Jack McConnell is a good man who did some fine things for Scotland. (Memo to Alex: Why not set up an anti-sectarianism commission and ask Jack to chair it?) But McConnell was unable to impose his identity on the job. No such danger with Salmond. He will recast the First Minister's job as President of the Best Country in the World. (Expect the "wee" that usually comes before "country" to be airbrushed from this slogan within days of Salmond taking office.)

It's not the country at large that Salmond needs to worry about, for now at least. His problems lie closer to home. The one-seat majority he aims to put together with the Lib-Dems and the Greens hands enormous power to even the lowliest SNP backbencher. In every single vote, Salmond needs every single member of the SNP group to be punctual and obedient. The chances of that are minimal.

Yesterday morning, as Salmond surveyed the new group of Nationalist MSPs at their first meeting, I bet he experienced a small shudder of foreboding. After all, his party has an unfortunate and careless habit of losing MSPs along the way. In the first parliament, elected in 1999, the SNP group lost Margo MacDonald and Dorothy-Grace Elder, who became independents after falling out with the leadership. In the second parliament, elected in 2003, the SNP lost Campbell Martin, a persistent critic of then leader John Swinney.

These three rebels had something in common, besides a taste for belligerence. They were all firmly entrenched in the fundamentalist wing of the party.

Perhaps a word of explanation is necessary for those readers who are not sad enough to have taken an anorak-like interest in the minutiae of Nationalist politics for two decades.

The main faultline that runs down the middle of the SNP isn't between right-wingers and left-wingers. It is between the fundamentalists and the gradualists. For the fundamentalists, independence is the alpha and omega of SNP politics. For them, anything else - including governing happily in a devolved parliament - is a distraction from the historic route march to a more important destination. The gradualists, typified by Salmond, see the SNP more as "the power for change", accumulating more powers for Scotland and improving the country's lot, in the hope of maybe, some day, winning the ultimate prize.

The enmity between these two factions has, of late, been on a low gas. Not for much longer. In the ranks of the party's 2007 intake are perhaps a dozen fundamentalist MSPs who will see their main task as ensuring Salmond does not sell out the party's core principles and 'go native' with devolution.

Chief among them will be Bill Wilson, an IT expert with a PhD in the behaviour of field mice. No, really. It was Wilson who stood against John Swinney for the SNP leadership when Salmond stood down in 2003. Given that one of Salmond's first tasks will be to decide how much he can compromise on the key SNP policy of a referendum on independence, we could be hearing from Dr Wilson sooner rather than later.

When I interviewed him back in 2003, Wilson made clear he would rather have an SNP true to the independence dream and in opposition than one that compromised to win power. "There is no value in the SNP being in power if it is not going to deliver on anything that it is there for," he said. "Power is not an end, it is a means to deliver your core policies."

The grief this could cause Salmond cannot be underestimated. Not everyone in the SNP ranks is comfortable with the shedding of Nationalist nostrums to prove the party's worth in power. Not everyone will keep their mouth shut in the hope of a junior ministerial job. Not everyone is enamoured with the helicopters and 4 by 4s that Salmond has taken a liking to of late.

It just takes a couple of Nationalist MSPs to dig in their heels, and Salmond will be short of a majority in parliament. For Scotland's new leader, the powerplays are only just beginning.



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1

Richardinho,

06/05/2007 02:54:13

i think it's easy to exagerate the divisions within the SNP. The so called 'gradualists' and 'fundamentalists' both agree that Scotland should be independent, and both sides would take that tomorrow if they could.

As an SNP member, I can agree with Bill Wilson when he says, "There is no value in the SNP being in power if it is not going to deliver on anything that it is there for," but as far as i'm concerned, a referendum on independence sometime within the first four years of an SNP administration more than satisfys that.

2

langtonian,

scotus 06/05/2007 06:40:18

What do you judge Kenny MacAskill has in common , apart from actual SNP. membership with Alec Salmon .
Are they likely to come under the heading,"READING FROM THE SAME HYMN SHEET" in all policies vis-a-vis current and future planning.?

3

Alistair Stewart,

MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY 06/05/2007 08:45:11

IF THE NEW LABOUR UNDEMOCRATIC LYING PARTY manage to get enough crooked friendly lawyers and an assortment of Unionist collusionists to overturn a fair and square result in Cunningham then I suggest we all get out onto the streets of Edinburgh and siege Holyrood!!

This MUST not be allowed to happen.

The SNP won this election - no sleazy Labour machinery should be allowed to change it.

4

langtonian,

scotus 06/05/2007 10:22:08

#3
What an unhappy billuouse posting, despite a win for your party,by choice.
You should be looking forward to a four year period of peace, tranquility, and all the benefits from North Sea oil Alec Salmond has promised you .
Perhaps you are more likely to consider that what is actually on offer, are four years where the political infighting could best be compared to a resultant situation, when observing "cat's/rat's fighting the bit out in a barrell."

5

Sense and worth o'er the Earth,

Scotland 06/05/2007 10:48:01

This nonsense of 'people didn't vote for Independence' wont rub.

1 - the SNP campaign wasn't based on Ind. It was based on giving people the choice. i.e. the very heart of politics!
2 - the 'Unionist' parties have their own politic rationale and beliefs. They have their own politics.
3 - If you are suggesting that people are not voting for Independence (wrong assumption - above) then can we conclude that people were *NOT* also voting for unionism?

I swear, the only travesty here - on the back of a fumbled Labour-led election process (which has nevertheless fired back on them) would be the travesty that we're even talking about a Lab/Lib pact again.

I would duly hope the people of Scotland would see the Brown/Menzies Campbell interference direct - realise that such interference is NOT in the interest of the Scottish electorate and take to the streets in their hundreds of thousands.

If Labour continue on this vein, dastardly corrupt ******** that they are, then they will see a real rupture - an *actual* separation of the Scottish people.

6

Brian Hill,

Brian Hill 06/05/2007 11:18:06

In my days as an SNP activist I was a fundamentalist with a massive F. When Thatcher was elected in '79 I finally admitted to myself what I had known for many years, the people of Scotland didn't have the confidence to take such a gigantic leap of faith that independence required. I became a gradualist almost over night.

I've seen SNP leaders come and go over 45 years and all of them reflected the Scottish inferiority complex (totally undeserved) in one way or another, until Salmond and then Sturgeon emerged.

It would be foolhardy in the extreme for any nationalist MSP to play fast and loose with the most successful leadership team in SNP history.

This is a time for everyone pulling together and making this referendum in 2010 work. This is the key to Independence, we can slot it in the keyhole and walk through the door to a new dawn or we can play silly beggars, fumble the key and not find it again for much longer than any of us would care to comtemplate.

Let's bear in mind, we are doing this not just for ourselves but for the people of Scotland. They have elected us and they deserve to see us working hard to achieve our aim of a referendum on independence. Apart from anything else we don't have a mandate to declare Independence or indeed the votes in parliament to push it through.

Let's show the people what we can do then ask them if they would like this and more on a permanent basis.

Roll on 2010: It's Time put Independence to the people.

7

Neil,

9% Growth 06/05/2007 11:38:45

He could immediately put forward a referendum bill & see it voted down. With that out of the way he could form a government in which the SNP made no promise not to reintroduce the bill & other parties made no promise to support it. The fundamentalists would have had their token & would be able to concentrate on trying to persuade members of other parties to come round to independence (little chance) rather than fighting their own leadership.

8

Keren, It's time,

06/05/2007 13:22:05

Those who think there is going to be a spliy in the Party are so wrong and it's just out of touch journalism as usual.

The SNP is more united than it has ever been.

9

NickT,

Aberdeen 06/05/2007 13:29:53

John Reid quits the Cabinet?! Always a REAL reason for these things. Will he stand for the Scottish Parliament in 2011? Reid vs Salmond?

10

Neil,

9% Growth 06/05/2007 13:35:49

I doubt it. By 2011 there will be a new Scottish Labour leader (wendy alexander, Charlie gordon) who will be unlikely to wish to hand over.

11

Gaga,

Panama 06/05/2007 15:14:31

#11 Och, a wee bit sore because you now have an SNP MSP in Livingston? You can't possibly be a supporter of New Labour journeyman Muldoon, can you! (Seriously!?). More sour grapes from UK Nationalists (aka unionists).

12

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 06/05/2007 15:48:55

Campbell Martin was a great loss to the SNP. If he was still there the Cunninghamme North debacle would not exist. The vote would have been much more clear cut and painless. Unfortunately he won't be rejoining any day soon.

13

Jedi40,

Edinburgh 06/05/2007 16:01:24

Will the SOS and Scotsman continue to hammer away with anti SNP output day in day out for the next four years then?

14

Sense and worth o'er the Earth,

Scotland 06/05/2007 16:13:36

WHY are broadcasters not asking this question?

WHY are the Lib-Dems, having campaigned on 'empowering the parliament', having seen that the SNP are willing to put the third option on the referendum paper - NOT willing to do this??

If the Union - as Labour would have us told - is as safe as houses - WHAT have they got to be scared of??

ASK the question BBC!

ASK the question Scotsman!

ASK the question Herald!

ASK the question people of Scotland!

Why? Because the Unionist parties are scared of democracy!

The SNP are willing to go for it - put it to the PEOPLE - see if this unionist support comes through.

WHY WHY WHY not the Labour party etc?

I'll tell you why!!! Because they're scared Mr.Salmond does a good job with a progressive Green/Lib/SNP government.

They're scared that Scotland will see beyond toilet roll like the Daily Record and The Sun and start to build their self-confidence as the SNP represent us on a global stage!

15

Smurf,

Sour Grape's 06/05/2007 16:18:45

Tuff luck Joke Mconnel at least have the dignity to go when the People of Scotland change their mind and would rather not have a Puppet First minister worked by the cronies in Westminster ..We had enuf and voted for sense in the SNP ... Let the SNP get on with it at least Alex wont ask Mr Broon How high u want me to jump when the phone goes off in the first Ministers office .... Lets see the MSP's in Hollyrood run Scotland as they want and not as Number 10 see's fit and lets them ......
And as for this farce of Lawyers and screams of Unfair unfair im sure that if we ask it was the ruling party of the time that decided to have the local elections plus the Parliamentry elections at the same time !!!More labour confusion I wont miss .....

16

Stranger,

Glasgow 06/05/2007 16:24:23

Sorry for naive question, but why exactly Lib-Dems are against referendum? They may oppose independance, but how on earth somebody who consider themselves democrats, may oppose the wish of significant part of the population to have their say? If they will not form a coalition with SNP now, they will lost even more votes next time. It is their historical chance to get proportional representation system for all elections and implement a real democracy in Scotland - so we will be never again in one-party state situation

17

Stranger,

Glasgow 06/05/2007 16:27:21

Sorry for naive question, but why exactly Lib-Dems are against referendum? They may oppose independance, but how on earth somebody who consider themselves democrats, may oppose the wish of significant part of the population to have their say? If they will not form a coalition with SNP now, they will lost even more votes next time. It is their historical chance to get proportional representation system for all elections and implement a real democracy in Scotland - so we will be never again in one-party state situation

18

Chuck.U.Farley,

06/05/2007 16:29:08

Pàrtaidh Nàiseanta Alba won the election fair the people have spoken

19

IWright,

06/05/2007 16:37:16

I would like to ask Kenny Farquhason if he thinks Scotland on Sunday will take note of the disgust of many online readers and posters at the relentlessly hostile and negative approach that the paper has taken to the SNP and independence, and whether he thinks there will be a 'realignment' in the Scottish press that recognises the aspirations that its readers have for Scotland - not least a balanced media?

20

NickT,

Aberdeen 06/05/2007 16:38:29

#10

Ye, but as a Nationalist the idea of Reid as Labour leader in Scotland concerns me a little - none of the other contenders concern me. Wendy's intelligent - but Reid has intelligence, major-figure status and "one of us" appeal. Now that he's resigned, he could stand - Alex Salmond wasn't an MSP when he won the SNP leadership.
Does anyone really think Wendy Alexander would beat John Reid? Labour have a major problem in Scotland - are they parachuting in a major figure? John Reid giving up his career to spend time with his family? Seems pretty suspicious to me.

21

IWright,

06/05/2007 16:41:48

#9
Reid is jumping before he's pushed (by Brown).

22

NickT,

Aberdeen 06/05/2007 16:56:41

Labour's obvious problem in Scotland is that they have no heavyweight to match Alex Salmond - and don't underestimate Blair et al's alarm at the rise of the SNP.
The wise move WOULD be parachuting in a heavyweight from Westminster - as the SNP did. Suddenly, a Scottish heavyweight resigns for no obvious reason?
If Brown WAS about to sack Reid, what better revenge than winning the Labour leadership in Scotland? It might be Reid's last chance to remain a power-player.
Who knows - I'm not indulging in any more speculation. But it seems at least plausible to me.

23

IWright,

06/05/2007 17:06:49

#22
It may be a case of bailing out when he can do so withou tmaking it too obvious that he doesn't want to work for Brown. Brown is arrogant, charmless and tactless and most people's idea of a nightmare boss.

24

IWright,

06/05/2007 17:08:10

Am I missing something here, is Mr Farquharson not supposed to be taking part?

25

Dumyat,

Dorset 06/05/2007 17:39:27

As a expat Scottish Conservative, I have only praise for the statesman-like conduct of Alex Salmond whose TV address - to the world - even before the results were confirmed, showed courage, perception and political sophistication. If he is to be the future, political voice of Scotland, that future promises great things for a much-admired nation whose enterprise and individuality have been under-played or mis-appropriated for too long. There are battles looming, but support from fellow-countrymen at home and abroad is assured if they have any sense of excitement and imagination in pursuing a new political and cultural path. The current provinciality of the Edinburgh political mentality, however, has somehow to be overcome.

26

Smurf,

Where is the moderator then? 06/05/2007 17:52:20

#24 where is Mr Farquharson ???

27

Kenny Farquharson,

06/05/2007 18:44:37

Apologies! Was kept away from the keyboard at the designated time by a family emergency. It's not because I'm scared, honest. Well, not much. I'll address the points raised shortly this evening - and will also be online on Tuesday at 11am if that's more convenient for anyone who wants to chat live. Sorry! Won't happen again, guv, promise.

28

Kenny Farquharson,

06/05/2007 18:49:30

Re: langtonian #2
Interesting that you mention Kenny MacAskill. He represents a trend of thinking in the SNP that has still, I beleive, to make its presence fully felt. That's the ultra-gradualists, if you'll pardon the clumsy phrase. I'd put Mike Russell in this camp too. Will be very interesting to see how they conduct themselves.

29

Kenny Farquharson,

06/05/2007 18:55:26

Re: #5 from "Sense And Worth"
I think you're forgetting that only a third of voters chose a party that supported an independence referendum. (And that's a damn sight more than the percentage that support independence, in every multi-option poll).
The SNP's victory gives it the moral right to ask another party what common cause they can find in order to form a coalition. If that common platform doesn't include a referendum, then I'm afraid that's just democracy.
personally, I'd have no probs with a multi-option referendum. And I'm sure it would result in a victory for a much more powerful Scottish parliament, within the Union.

30

Kenny Farquharson,

06/05/2007 18:59:05

Re: #8 Keren: You wanna bet?

31

Kenny Farquharson,

06/05/2007 19:10:55

#14 Jedi: On the question of: "Will the SOS and Scotsman continue to hammer away with anti SNP output day in day out for the next four years then?"

I'm glad you mentioned that, because I think a few things need said on this, especially given some of the more bizarre comments that are posted on this website.

1. SoS is under new commercial ownership - the Barclay Brothers and Andrew Neil are no longer the paper's owners. The new boss is the Scottish media company Johnston Press.

2. SoS, for the past six months, also has a new editor in the form of Les Snowdon, who is making his presence felt.

3. You may have noticed that the saltire is back in the SoS masthead.

4. The party that has had the biggest kicking from SoS in the past four years is the Scottish Labour party, by a considerable length. When the SNP has had a kicking, it's deserved it. But Labour has taken the brunt, so I fail to see where you get the view that the paper has been primarily anti-SNP.

5. On our leader column you may have noticed our new latin SoS motto, Sin Timore et Favore, which translates as "Without Fear or Favour". We will give any and all polititicians a hard time, if we feel they deserve it, regardless of whether they are Unionist or Nationalist.

32

SouthernSkye,

06/05/2007 19:27:30

31. Kenny Farquharson
Hello, well done for 'coming live into the arena'.
Regarding point 31:
This argument can be used in many ways, such as the greater majority did not vote for Labour in the last Westminster elections. However, this was not an election about separation, it was an election to reflect the views of the people relating to the (ex) leaders of Scotland. And 2/3 of those who voted were obviously not happy and therefore voted for parties other than Labour.

I also think that there must be other voters, like me, who voted differently in the regional, constituency and council ballot. One of my votes did go to SNP, the remaining (3 votes) did not. But this does not mean I am anti independence, quite the reverse, but there are many points to consider in an election, not just one.
rgds
SS

33

fatboyslim,

scotland 06/05/2007 20:16:59

comment no 10
i dont know who will run labour but i have question to you
will the 9% growth party contest the next election when they only got 80 votes in the election

34

Tonto43,

Midlothian 06/05/2007 20:45:27

SNP winning had nothing to do with Independence. The big factor is Labour tried to screw the public sector workers with a cap on pay rises at 2%.
You alienated all your supporters in one fair swoop.
Thank Gordon Brown for your defeat. This will also be the same in the General Election unless you change this policy.
Up the Nurses, Doctors, Teachers, Polis and Firemen and all other public sector workers who have let Labour know just how we feel........................

35

JuanKerr,

SHOCK HORROR! 07/05/2007 03:51:40

#3 - her blair brought in a pile of terror legislation that could have you jailed for that! Closed court, Mi5 making an ass cover out of you. See ! we can find a terrorist ! LOL
seriously though. we live in a country , like america where democracy is a sham. The result proves it. The attempts to hijack the vote prove it and the sucessive failure proves wee doogies a traitorous wee tanker to his kins folk and neighbours!

go back to politico LTD you little engratied , lap doug any more nodding in agreement to tony or gordon and yer heid will fall off. Your sisters been outta hers for years. they say it runs in families.....AA

36

Mady1,

07/05/2007 09:06:24

#31 Kenny

If not wanting to form a coalition is 'just democracy' then what is what the labour party doing now to overturn the results? Sure doesn't seem democratic to me...just expedient!!

37

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 10:20:39

Hi, I'm online here live until 12 noon. Any questions or comments?

38

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 10:22:58

# 41 Mady1
I don't think it's expedient when there's a genuine question about whether there has been a credible count and a credible result. if we don't take care about these things and challenge the questionable results, then democracy is really in trouble.

39

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 10:27:36

# 35 dugald:
I hope you're making an exception of SoS, Dugald! I'd be interested in any comments you all have about how you think the paper is doing, either here just now or by email on kenny.farquharson@scotlandonsunday.com

40

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 10:32:09

#34 southern skye

Very interesting point. No one party got all my three votes either (three cheers for Margo!).
The Scottish voters are notoriously difficult to pigeonhole...
eg. the SNP voters who want independence are outnumbered by the SNP voters who would prefer more powers for the parliament within the Union.

41

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 10:35:05

# 40
I think it's disgusting that you call a fellow Scot "traitorous" just because he disagrees with you politcally. You should be ashamed of yourself.

42

Kenny Farquharson,

08/05/2007 15:01:15

# 47: The Watcher
Eh?!!!!! End the secret ballot??? And then we'll "see what the people really want"????
Presumably, Mr/Ms Watcher, you'd then have a list of the people who disagreed with you, so you could pay them a visit and teach them the error of their ways?

43

SouthernSkye,

08/05/2007 19:55:28

45. Kenny Farquharson
Thank you for responding.
Curious to note that you state
..."the SNP voters who want independence are outnumbered by the SNP voters who would prefer more powers for the parliament within the Union"....

I would be interested to know where this statistic is taken from, especially in light of the fact that votes are supposed to be secret, therefore how can this statistic be compiled?
NB: Secret ballot...Not in Broadford Isle of Skye however where voters were told that their ballot papers had to be handed in vote-side up. Makes a mockery of the entire system. The wife has written to the electoral body but, as yet, no response.

44

Armstrong Cowan,

Germany 09/05/2007 13:53:39

The issue of our Independence is least served by discussions between the merits of the arguments of the so-called "fundamentalists" and " gradualists".
Neither should the debate centre on money or primitive anti-english sentiment. At the heart of the matter is our identity as a long-established civilised culture separate from the English. It is possible to be pro-English but even more pro-Scottish at the same time. We need to throw out this negativeness and small mindedness once and for all. We need political and business decision making in Scotland, for Scotland and for all Scots in order to maximise job quality and choice. Neither do we need to promote unnecessary immigration from England or any other alien cultures. Instead we need opportunities for our own children to encourage them to stay at home (if they want )and for ex-patriots to be able to come home. Quality inward investment means talking to medium and large European, American and Japanese and Asian companies constantly and in their own respective languages. The current and past efforts of Scottish Enterprise are to be praised but should be strengthened and where necessary re-directed.
Vehicle manufacturing ,engineering, steel ,shipbuilding etc may be unfashionable vis a' vis - IT , financial services and biotech etc but all are important constituent parts of a healthy economy. In addition we must start planning right now for a post-oil world . The Scots left the concept of the EPF ( Employees Provident Fund ) in Malaysia This system and the current US$ 300 billion Norwegian Country Fund must be emulated in Scotland as I believe suggested by Mr Salmond before it is too late.
One last thing . Our political independence has nothing whatsoever to do with our foreign trade. Britain buys around 600,000 passenger cars from Germany each year. This is more than Germany sells in the USA. Demand and supply as well as free choice is something elements of the Scottish La


 

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