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Out-of-hours GP clinics to be cut



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Published Date: 20 April 2008
MORE than half a million Scots will have their out-of-hours access to GPs restricted under a deal struck between the Scottish Government and doctors.
Thousands of patients will only be able to book an out-of-hours appointment once a month and thousands more will be restricted to appointments once a fortnight, despite a promise to deliver extra GP sessions every week.

And family doctors, who ear
n an average of £90,000 a year, are being offered an extra £1,000 to start delivering evening and weekend sessions before July.

The details of the finalised deal for GPs' opening hours have emerged just days before family doctors are expected to discuss strike action.

Campaigners and critics were furious at the development, accusing the Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon of failing to deliver her promise to patients.

In February Sturgeon said practices would open their doors outwith office hours each week in return for £9.5m of new money.

But last night she admitted agreeing "a number of flexibilities" to the deal.

GPs opposed the original move, which they said would be of no benefit to the chronically sick or the elderly. Family doctors were angry that the deal had been imposed on them and that they will lose money if they do not deliver extra opening hours.

Scotland on Sunday can reveal the latest details of the deal mean small practices will receive cash for opening their doors to patients outside normal working hours just once or twice a month. The move affects over half a million patients from all over Scotland whose GP practice has fewer than 3,000 patients on its books.

Many more will have no access at all – if GPs accept a £6,000 cut in funding for not providing the service.

Yesterday the leader of Scotland's family doctors, chairman of the British Medical Association's GP committee Dr Dean Marshall, said he had won the concession after warning officials that most of his colleagues were on the verge of rejecting extended hours.

Marshall said: "In recent discussions with the Scottish Government we have managed to make extended hours more do-able for practices.

"We said that we did not think the vast majority of GPs would do it, but that if they made some changes, then GPs could do it," he added.

"But we still don't think the arrangement is fit for purpose. It won't improve things for patients because we still won't be able to give them the range of services they need, like blood tests."

Those with fewer than 1,000 patients will only be required to provide a weekend or evening session once every four weeks. The move affects around 32,000 patients.

Those with between 1,000 and 3,000 patients only have to offer the extra clinics once a fortnight. This move affects almost 490,000 patients in hundreds of practices across the country.



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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 01:27:27
Well this IS and believe me 'IS' a mark in history!!

THE PEOPLE WONT PUT UP WITH IT!

It will leave doors now, 'WIDE-OPEN', for a New System of,
'HEALTH-CARE' , in the UK,

And the Public will take to it like, 'Bees to Honey'

Talk about,.. 'Christmas-saving-stamps' at the supermarkets, it will soon be,..,

'Health insurance Stamps' that we will be offered!

A New initiative that will meet our needs!

'MARK MY WORDS',, THIS WILL, COME TO PASS!

Hospitals however are sound and everyone that works in them, cannot be classed as the,

'Circus-Act' that, our GP's Services are now becoming!
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Matt there,

somewhere 20/04/2008 01:51:11
My God! You mean you can still make out of hours appointments with your GP in Scotland?

Doesn't happen in England. Nor in Wales, I think. You get a crummy service provided from a base miles away that you have to get to (with no public transport at night, naturally!) because these evening services do not do call outs, in general.
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Senga Jean,

20/04/2008 02:29:18
She promised me something else...
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steve52,

Kinfauns 20/04/2008 12:49:12
I cannot get an appointment to see my Doctor for a week............have to book 7 days in advance.

Greed, nothing else.
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Eleana,

Bonnyrigg 20/04/2008 13:45:59
You cannot restrict or cut something that has not been provided yet!
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Ginster's Pastie,

Grangemouth 21/04/2008 00:20:36
Odd - I am a GP, and noone has mentioned anything to me about preparing for strike action!

I've also not heard anything about restricting out-of-hours access in any way.

Once/month or fortnight - mince. If you need to be seen, you'll still get seen.

Most of this story seems to be based on utter nonsense i'm afraid.
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Almostout,

21/04/2008 10:38:26
I am a GP

I think the disgrace is here the inability of media to give a balanced and fair debate in its reporting. There are major issues threatening the health service that have got nothing to do with the money I take home or how long I work but about how government uses it for political ends.

This whole issue is nothing more than a vote grabber for government. They have been setting us up for 3 years. Stirring the bad feeling. Making us vulnerable so they can hit us hard amongst all this vitriolic rhetoric from the public and make themselves look good.

The press lap it up and give you what you want.

There are many arguments here which never get discussed . There are reasons for our stance that go way beyond money but all anybody wants to hear is 'greedy/lazy GP's' so that's all that gets printed.

It shows great ignorance. I have worked for many years to develop my skills and continue to do so. The problem is that I have to spend so much of my day dealing with things that really shouldn't be anything to do with me.

But the public want it so they get it. We are SO accessible that are days are clogged up with trivia and yet we have to keep ourselves alert and sane enough to make sure those that really do need our help are spotted.

We deal with so much self limiting illness/social problems/ beaureucracy because you can book in and just present it. This is why there's difficlty with appointments. Paitients have to wait several weeks/months for significant problems that need hospital attention but we get complaints if you have to wait a week for a sore throat.

But we still deal with it all and the medicine - Minor illnesses, major illnesses, emergencies, chronic diseases, palliative care, public health etc.

Most of my days are 10-12 hours. I sometimes get a 1/2 hr break. Most of my colleagues are the same. we deal with so much stuff outside of surgeries as paperwork, demands for telephone consultations, demands for 'letters' go up and up. we
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Almostout,

21/04/2008 10:39:39
also have to keep up with professional development and remain fit to practice. There just aren't enough of us and not enough hours in the day. I accept this to a point but there has to be a limit.

Previously when GP's did out of hours the system was abused. Demand was too high. It was just becoming an extension of what was happening through the day. We did it for a fraction of what it now costs and better - but the goodwill went.

I will defend my right to a good wage. I am a highly skilled specialist who deals with complex problems and that can't be taken away from the equation. I will also defend my right to adequate rest and time to spend with my family.

The public needs to be careful about what message it is sending out about how much value it puts on us. There are other countries who do value us more and I, with others, am already looking there for options in the current climate.

The labour government ( with the SNP trotting behind )is already trying to get rid of us from the NHS. It recognises that they can't keep up with the public demand while there is rationing of the public purse, so privatisation is the way forward. Yet they want to do it making us look like the bad guys - they did it with the dentists as well.

We would prefer to work in a equitable, publicly funded service that is based on need, with an evidence based agenda being driven by the profession (the experts). Yet we are being asked for a publicly funded service that is unlimited and based on want with a financially and politically motivated agenda being driven by government.
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Almostout,

21/04/2008 10:41:07
It is unsustainable and from a personal viewpoint intolerable. We too are looking for ways out and there is a growing body that is wanting to leave the NHS. Then you can have whatever service you want - but be aware of the true cost!
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Goody2Shoes,

EDINBURGH 06/05/2008 16:35:33
Almostout, I think for £96K pa you should have no problem working the hours you do. My partner has also spent many years gaining a degree and working but doesnt earn half as much as GP's. I didnt think GP's worked over 12 hours per day with the new contract. Most work a 4.5 day week with hours set aside for paper work.

"But the public want it so they get it. We are SO accessible that are days are clogged up with trivia and yet we have to keep ourselves alert and sane enough to make sure those that really do need our help are spotted".

Its the General Public who keep you in employment

 

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