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Published Date: 31 May 2009
ON A day when the sun beat down on Hampden we had a final that sizzled nicely. Nothing fried the brain quite like the seminal moment, a swerving howitzer from Nacho Novo 29 seconds after he came on to the field as a second-half replacement.
Wee Nacho, what a little devil he is. Falkirk had the best of it before he scored and had the majority of the ball afterwards, too, but in that one strike from distance he settled it and wrote himself into Rangers folklore one more time.

Double winners. Who'd have thought it? When the supporters were slaughtering Sir David Murray and Walter Smith back in January the very idea of achievement on this scale didn't even cross the minds of the disaffected. When they lambasted the club for "fire-sales" in the transfer window only a madman would have predicted it would have ended like this.

"Football! Bloody hell," as the man from Old Trafford once said.

Falkirk made it a good final. Not to rain on Rangers' parade, but Falkirk were the better team.

They embraced the occasion like a team who were playing their last match on earth. They weren't just mad dogs in a meathouse, roaring about and devouring everything in sight – although there was plenty of that kind of edge to their play. But there was precision and intelligence, too. They passed it about, at pace and with accuracy.

It wasn't exactly Xavi and Iniesta we were looking at, but Kevin McBride and Scott Arfield were too good – way too good – for Barry Ferguson and Lee McCulloch.

Ferguson started, but didn't figure as a force. If this was indeed his last game for Rangers he has the memory of a victory, but not of a particularly influential performance.

Most of the key battles bar the one that truly mattered – goals tally – were won by Falkirk. Certainly, the physical stakes were dominated by Hughes' team. Time and again they harried Rangers off the ball, hustled them with their pressure game and dumped them on their backsides. So much of what they did was good, but they needed more.

What they had to get was a goal, but it didn't come. They had close-run things, of course. In the 14th minute Neil McCann launched a looping effort that clipped the top of Neil Alexander's crossbar.

Seven minutes later and McCann had a more straightforward opportunity – and spurned it. And how it cost his team.

Darren Barr put a cross into the box from the right and Madjid Bougherra made a terrible hash of clearing it. The ball carried on to McCann who snatched at it in space and got his volley all wrong, his effort bobbling wide of Alexander's goal.

At the time you winced for Falkirk's prospects because chances like that don't come to the underdog all that often in cup finals and, really, McCann needed to put it away. You sensed he knew it too because he held his head in his hands for a few seconds after and had an angst-ridden look about him for a while.

Falkirk had mountains of territory and strung together any amount of passes but they couldn't do the needful. Instead, Rangers started to stir just before the break when a David Weir header was nutted off the line by Steve Lovell.

Had the team managed on the day by Ally McCoist scored at that point it would have been unjust on Falkirk. They didn't. But they did seconds after the restart.

At the break, McCoist decided to change it. Boyd hadn't had a kick up to that point and his manager yanked him out of the action and brought in that little nuisance, Novo, to help up shore up a well-beaten midfield. Dear me, McCoist hasn't made many substitutions in his short managerial life, but if he goes on to make a million more will any of them pay off as quickly and as handsomely as this one?

Novo's innate cheek made him try his luck from such a range after he received the ball from a Sasa Papac throw-in and when he launched it you knew instantly that Dani Mallo in the Falkirk goal was in desperate trouble. It swung away from him in the air and beat the flailing goalkeeper hands down.

The goal gave Rangers the lead, but it didn't give them an easy ride. Credit to Falkirk, they regrouped in no time and came again with all the purpose of before. They had the ball in the Rangers net after 77 minutes, but Carl Finnigan was offside when he scored. At least it gave them heart.

Even after Novo almost made it two with a close-range chested effort that went wide, Falkirk steamed down the other end and gave Rangers a terrible fright. Defensively, Rangers got themselves in a rare old mess, the ball travelling across their penalty area to Lovell, standing free on the right edge of the six-yard box.

Lovell put a shot in on goal from an angle. Not the sweetest shot. Not the hardest shot. But a shot. And it rolled past the beaten hand of Alexander and quietly struck the outside of his post.

That was that. The last chance. Falkirk had nothing more to give because they had spent every last ounce of energy by then. They did themselves proud.

As for Rangers, they have travelled a long distance since the dog days of January.

They're not dripping with quality, they're not even easy on the eye, but they're a winning team and how their neighbours across town must envy them this morning.

All a blur as match winner fails to see his shot hit back of the net

NACHO Novo admitted he did not even see his Homecoming Scottish Cup winner fly into the net as Rangers completed a domestic double by beating Falkirk 1-0 at Hampden.

Novo, who has struggled to hold down a starting place at Ibrox, scored a stunning 30-yard volley just 29 seconds after his half-time introduction this afternoon.

"If I'm honest, I couldn't even see it. It passed so quickly," Novo told BBC Radio Scotland. "I never saw it but I'm quite pleased for the goal. This was a really hard time for me. This will keep me going and looking forward to next season."

Novo applauded the performance of Falkirk, who more than matched Rangers for the majority of the game.

The Spaniard said: "It's a team which always plays really good football and tries to play football, and a really good manager as well. They've been a really difficult side for us but I'm quite pleased for us as well to win it."

Manager Walter Smith, who delegates much of his authority to assistant Ally McCoist for cup games, said: "It was always going to be a difficult match for us today the way Falkirk set out their team. Today, we never reached the levels we did do last week. The goal from Nacho Novo was terrific for us."

Smith admitted Rangers might have suffered a bit of a hangover after winning their first league title for four years last weekend.

"It was going to be a bit of a struggle to get everybody back up from that fantastic effort from us last week," said Smith, who refused to speculate on the future of midfielder Barry Ferguson. "I think you could see the game did take its toll."

McCoist also applauded Falkirk's performance. He said: "I think they made it difficult for us throughout the game. They didn't have a lot of chances at our goal and they only hit the post at the end there. I think Neil McCann hit the bar in the first half.

"I think overall we're just delighted to get the win. I'm chuffed to bits for the team."

Captain David Weir acknowledged Falkirk's first-half superiority.

"We were poor, they were very good," the defender said. "What we were doing wasn't working so the manager made a decision and that's what he's good at."

Of lifting the cup as skipper, Weir added: "It's a dream come true, it really is, and I'm going to enjoy every minute."

Falkirk manager John Hughes, who has been linked with the vacant posts at Hibernian and Aberdeen, was proud of his players.

He said: "All credit to them, they gave it a go. I think you know that with the fans staying behind. I'm so proud of them, I really am."

He added: "My game plan was to keep the ball, ball-retention, taking our time.

"I said at half-time, we could've done it a lot quicker and we were giving them plenty of chance to get back behind the ball. I said at half-time, 'Make sure we keep it tight for 20 minutes'. And one minute into the second half, bang."

Scottish Cup final result maps out Europe adventures for Scots sides

RANGERS' cup final win at Hampden over Falkirk yesterday settles the European issues for Scottish clubs in next season's continental competitions.

The Ibrox side had already booked their place in the group stages of next season's Champions League by winning the title. As a result, Celtic will enter the same competition in the third qualifying phase, the two legs taking place in the last week of July and the first week of August. Rangers' first game in the tournament commences in mid-September. Celtic will find out their third-round opponents on 22 June.

Falkirk, as a result of finishing runners-up in the cup, will enter the newly-formed Europa League in the second qualifying round, with the ties due to be played on 16 and 23 July.

Hearts benefit from Rangers' Scottish Cup success. They only have the Europa League play-off round to negotiate towards the end of August to get into the group stages, giving Csaba Laszlo's side more time to prepare for the start of the campaign.

Aberdeen enter the tournament at the third qualifying round, with the matches due to be played on 30 July and 6 August.

Motherwell, however, don't get much of a rest. They enter the Europa League at the first qualifying round, meaning their season starts on the 2 July, with the second leg a week later.

Mark Atkinson







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  • Last Updated: 30 May 2009 10:55 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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1

Oh Gawd not this again,

31/05/2009 00:33:12
Well done to Rangers for retaining the Gordon Smith Trophy, and, I think I can safely speak for the nation when I say how chuffed we are for Kyle Lafferty. He really deserved it.
2

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 00:42:12
Speaking as a Scots Canadian I am lost with post #1.

Watching the match I will say that Falkirk played the better football, but the Gers ran out winners thanks to wee Novo.

As for runners up who remembers them when they talk about statistics.

We won the double.
3

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 00:46:11
Falkirk were unlucky. They passed Rangers off the park but lacked the finishing touch. A few shots from outside the box wouldn't have gone amiss and the boy on the left could have been utilised a bit more, but generally Falkirk are on the right tracks, if they could just speed up the passing a wee bit and not under-hit the ball a tad at times they would be more like Barcelona than Rangers. Also Falkirk had a couple of dubious offsides awarded against them, that sort of thing is annoying but I don't suppose the linesman can see the shading of the cut grass from ground level.

Falkirk can be proud of how they held their own against the Scottish League Champions and if they could just get in a few more shots and follow them in for the odd rebound they would surely get their just reward. Verdict:- Nae luck Falkirk. Rangers, ye'll have to improve for the Champions league or ye'll be oot oan yer bahookies.
4

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 00:52:16
2 Daillyman

Gordon Smith is the Heid Bummer in the S.F.A. and Kyle Lafferty kidded on a guy fae Aberdeen F.C. stuck the heid on him and the guy was wrongly sent off. It may have changed the game which was a semi-final. That's fitba for ye. It happens all the time. There is no point in bothering about it, cos it will keep happening anyway.
5

Backofthenet,

31/05/2009 00:57:23
"Gordon Smith is the Heid Bummer in the S.F.A. and Kyle Lafferty kidded on a guy fae Aberdeen F.C. stuck the heid on him and the guy was wrongly sent off. It may have changed the game which was a semi-final." (#4)

No it wasn't.

Familiar stuff from Falkirk: a lot of possession which wasn't turned into goals. So the screamer from Novo was enough to clinch the Double.
6

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 01:03:36
Scotland's top three in order of merit (UEFA official point ranking)

1. Rangers- SPL and Scottish Cup (the Big cup) winners

2. Falkirk- Scottish Cup runners up

3. Celtic CIS (the Wee cup) winners

7

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 01:07:47
4 sorry aboot that. You are quite correct. It was a major league decider at the end of the season.
8

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 01:09:31
Falkirk flattered to decieve, tippy-tappy football going nowhere.
Rangers were always going to score, it didn't matter whether it was one or half a dozen, Falkirk just weren't going to get even one.

9

Oh Gawd not this again,

31/05/2009 01:10:48
Mr Dailyman at number 2

The initial post was a sarco-satire device deployed to mildly irritate your ilk, cast aspersions upon Gordon Smith (who offered to move the final to help Rangers last season without consulting QOS) and Kyle Lafferty whom I, and many others, cant find much too like about. Backofthehead is correct, in that Kyle Lafferty's preposterous dive occured in a league game against Aberdeen at Ibrox.
10

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 01:12:15
4 Although it didn't matter in the end as Celtic blew it anyway. Still, psychologically they may have been affected. Some would say that goes without saying, no doubt. Others would say, Mental strength and all that jazz. I would say it's a load a mince anyway.
11

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:29:52
9

Who I have repeatedly asked what was your previous user name on these threads, there was no sarcasm in my post #2. Unlike tic supporters I can admit my team was p*sh on the day. But poor form aside we did do a double this season.

Well done to the Hearts, Dons, Well and Falkirk for making the Europa Cup.

To the tic well done for being league runners up, League Cup winners and CL qualifiers, I hope you make to the group sections giving Scotland (not Ireland) two sides in the CL group sections.
12

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 01:32:07
8 I think you are being a bit unfair there, or you've got on the Blue Tinted Specs.

Rangers could hardly get the ball in the first half, and if they are so brilliant how come they hardly had a shot at goal themselves. If Falkirk hit a few shots from outside the box and followed in they might have scored, they also hit the post and the guy just might have got the rebound if he had read the bounce better and Neil McCann was pretty close. Naw, Rangers were jammy, and Falkirk had two offsides awarded against them that weren't in promising positions.
13

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:35:34
10 Fitba krazy

The tic never blew anything.

The Gers went unbeaten in the last 10 league matches they played, 8 wins 2 draws to win the title.

The same as the tic did last season winning the league with 7 wins on the trot.

The best side won the league last season.

And this year without a doubt and no fixture congestion the best team won the league this season.

Stand up for RFC the SPL Champions.
14

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 01:43:20
12
Football isn't fair, but if you cant score you wont win.
Rangers seemed happy enough to allow 'Kirk to play amonst themselves safe in the knowledge that they had the firepower to get the goal that mattered, and they did.
Don't mistake possession for ability.
15

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 01:43:56
13 Daillyman.

Actually Celtic dropped two points to Hearts and another two to Hibs in the last few games. Also Lafferty should have been sent off INSTEAD of the Aberdeen player. Rangers then would have struggled although they also had a player wrongly sent off but Lafferty should have walked. That would have been 11 man Aberdeen against 10 man Rangers and it would have been more difficult to win the game. There are loads of daft decisions throughout the season. You cannot take the end positions seriously as they are skewed completely by incompetent and absurd refereeing decisions. It's all a money spinner. Half of the players are hopeless and can only use one foot. Who are YOU trying to kid?
16

Oh Gawd not this again,

31/05/2009 01:44:15
Mr Dailyman at number 11

Can you rephrase your first paragraph please. It doesnt really deliver any clarity on your thinking.

As I see it:

1. I post some mild banter
2. You dont understand
9. I explain the mechanism and its purpose, succinctly I thought.
11. You lose me completely.
17

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 01:44:47
If it hadn't been for the unbearable heat I think Boyd would have scored a couple and have wrapped things up by H-T. Yes, unbearbale.

As it was, we needed to bring on our "high altitude" man, who left his sizzling for his shot.

18

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 01:47:33
I wonder if Boyd gets to keep the bench, having sat on it enough times during one season to qualify for the right. Need to check my Wee Red Book to make sure, though.
19

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 01:50:15
14

Rangers seemed happy enough etc. I don't think they were happy enough, and if they were with Falkirk having the bulk of possession then that's their problem.

I KNOW it's goals that count, but possession means the other team will struggle and maybe burn themselves out first. But you are correct about having to score as that is what matters most of all.
20

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:56:38
16

Have no problem on what you post, I enjoy reading your posts.

Since this morning I have asked you what your previous user name was on these threads. Fairly simple request, I would just like to know who I am chatting with.

I hope this post makes sense to you and all all who come onto these threads.
21

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:59:00
19

Same question to you, can you tell us your past user name on these threads?
22

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 01:59:29
#20

Dailly

I remember having the same conversation with this wee bird I was dating a while ago.

Take my advice and don't ask...
23

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:01:45
15

You forgot the 3 points they also dropped to the Gers.
24

Oh Gawd not this again,

Not Far From Forfar 31/05/2009 02:08:36
20

Remember the thread where you complained, quite correctly, that it was "pi*h". You didnt read it all. The answer is there. I'd tell ya straight up if you havent worked it out but remember the object of the exercise is to cure the cause of that thread bein "pi*h" in the first place.

And thank you, I like your posts as well.
25

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:09:55
22 bto

Trying to be civil since I have been posting on these forums, I had thought they were civil questions to ask.

If you can help me out with previous user names of the tic supporters currently online, it would be great.

You, I know as bto, and your present user name. Ajax has always been Ajax, and I have been the same name for years.

26

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:10:57
24

Are you dv???????
27

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 02:14:45
#26

The old dyslexia playing up again?
28

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 02:16:31
Has Idee no got a wee exclusive on the new Celtic manager yet?
29

Kirrie_Tim,

31/05/2009 02:18:31
26
Daillyman

Incorrect.
30

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:19:42
27 BTO

You have to bare with me, I visited a good friend in the hospital this afternoon who just went through a quadruple bypass operation, thank goodness, he looks like he will be fine.

I left there went to the RFC club for a liquid stimulant or two, left the car and took a cab home to, have my tea then converse with the lads online.
31

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:21:42
29

I accept I am wrong, then please help me out.

Who was I conversing with @24?
32

Kirrie_Tim,

31/05/2009 02:24:47
31
Daillyman

Are you drunk?...

The political wing of me is....
33

Oh Gawd not this again,

31/05/2009 02:24:54
Me!
34

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 02:27:28
21 & 23 Daillyman.

I didn't bother with these football threads until quite recently when the Herald gave up the ghost and even there I hardly bothered as not many did. So I didn't have a previous name on these football threads here.

I think over the season Rangers do deserve the title as they had a right few bum decisions against themselves early on that amount to a few points anyway. Hearts and Aberdeen were way behind this season and couldn't possibly have won regardless of the daft decisions although European places could have been affected, but since they have recently usually been skelped out of Europe anyway it hardly matters football wise, so hopefully Falkirk will start practising shooting to go with their passing game which they are fairly adept at and all the teams wise up for Euro competitions and start firing in shots from 25 to 30 yards regularly. If you don't shoot you don't score. Also practise getting headers on target, the amount of headers that go over the bar is astonishingly poor. They couldnae have played at heiders or 3 and in when they were wee guys like we did. For pros there is much work to do instead of just fitness. Lets be honest here. How fit do you have to be? I mean, it's no as if they are sprinting aboot the place non-stop. More like strolling most of the time, so the priority should be practising shots and heiders.
35

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:32:33
32 Kirrie

No not drunk at all. I just wont drive after a couple of bevys.

Just looking for an honest response to a question.


33

What does "me", mean you are dv or you are not?
36

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 02:36:19
I thought that the ref had a disappointingly quiet game.

Not what you look for in a cup final
37

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:38:15
34

An honest answer from an honest man.

Could not agree more. I had an old boss who said to us if you can see the "sticks" hammer it. Some of the lads thought he meant the corner flags and we got relegated.
38

Kirrie_Tim,

31/05/2009 02:40:00
Hope your not spooked Brian, that wasnt the idea.

The idea is to use that log-in to post the 'you're degrading and embarrassing your club' schtick, it works very well, and both ways as I've demonstrated.

Unfortunately, I cant help bantering, even on duty..

35

Would you have thought dv capable of various writing styles, similtanaeously is a way to answer your question.
39

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 02:45:24
How does McCoist get his hair to stand up at the front so much. What is he hiding?

He must be permanently connected to a mains supply
40

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:48:45
38

Its not the idea of being spooked, thats not the issue, I have tried to pride myself to be as honest as possible on these threads.

I support the Gers, and am happy with another double this season.

I dont understand the need to have multiple user names on these forums. Can you explain that to me?
41

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 02:53:57
39 bto

Still in the land of the rising sun
42

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 02:55:05
37 Daillyman,

I think that's what they must be feart will happen and they don't want to embarrass themselves. I think it's fairly easy to get a 25 to 30 yard shot and headers on target so I don't know why they seem reluctant to shoot and why most of their headers go over the bar.

It must be that funny ba they play with, eh?

Naw, that's no excuse. You should be able to play with any ball from a tennis ba up. Remember the auld bladders with the lace and the funny tube thing that stuck oot? If ye headered that bit you knew all about it or when the ba wis soakin wet and weighed about 3x it's usual. These modern players don't realise how easy the game has become. The pitches etc. compared with years ago.
43

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 02:59:47
Dailly

Back this week.

Think Japan are playing this afternoon. Getting ready for their tough match against the Burley babes in October
44

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 03:01:23
#42

Rangers used to hold their training matches with a medicine ball
45

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:10:00
19 Fitba Krazy

Rangers had the better defence, obviously they could allow to concede possession.
They also had the ability to score.
46

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:10:38
42

As an apprentice with an old English 1st division side, when the weather was bad outside we used to go indoors to the club gym, and train using a tennis ball!

Oh to have been born 30 odd years later. Today's players have it so tough. lol
47

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:14:47
46 Dailly
was that the club Gin you meant?
48

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 03:18:53
44

I remember watching them train at the Albion the day Alex Ferguson signed for them back in 67.

They weren't giving much away then. They didn't want tae risk hitting us wee guys sitting on the wa watching them.

The polis eventually appeared and we got tae.

I've got a 5kg medicine ba right here. They are a good laugh and sort out the stomach muscles etc. I don't know about playing a game with one all the same. Probably a good laugh until some clown disnae realise and blooters it as hard as possible and does his knee in or something. Aye ye used to get those kind of jokers.

I well remember the burst ba with half brick inside trick. I was caught out with that one. I nearly broke my big toe. Ohya b...... jist thinkin aboot it.
49

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:20:47
47

No Ajax, it was the clubs gym.

It was a real eye opener for me to see the facilities that were available to young players, or seasoned pros in England. And that was a life time ago in 1968.
50

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 03:24:58
45 Ajax

Aye mibbe, but that doesn't always work out does it?

And they only scored one. I know that is all you need if the opposition don't score, but you never know for sure.

Playing a containing game and hardly having a shot is highly risky. It didn't look planned to me. Falkirk could have scored with the one that hit the post and a bit of composure could have got the rebound.
51

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:31:26
50 Fitba Krazy

could have, should have, might have been.
However if 'Kirk had scored in 28 secs as Everton did, can you honestly say you would still have expected any other result?

Rangers don't seem to have much flair these days, but they win.
Don't kid yourself that any team in Scotland has flair these days.
52

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:36:09
49 Daillyman

not quite a lifetime ago...yet!!
53

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 03:36:53
I remember watching a training session at the Albion where the game was played with a balloon.

Hard to control.

Did gave the defence time to get back, though
54

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 03:37:18
46 Daillyman,

I never reached the giddy heights of professionaldom. Just youth and amateur. But I can use both feet and can score goals for fun wi either foot and the heid nae bother. Aye, either born 30 years later or if some bottle merchant would gie us a game noo. They are feart. Nae bottle. Frightened they get shown up. Chanty rastlers etc. Who are they trying tae kid. LoL.
55

Kirrie_Tim,

31/05/2009 03:41:06
40
Daillyman

You have a point, but I dont do it for nefarious purpose, after all, why would I tell you about it if it was?

Now if you could just stop respondin tae gawds fantastic banter, I promise he wont respond to you and he apologises for doing it to you before.

56

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:41:14
52 Ajax

When my wages were 15 quid a week, plus my digs paid, and expenses and bus fare back and forth from training it was a lifetime ago.

And we had to work at the stadium besides training and playing for your weekly wages. lol
57

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:44:41
53 The Kids Are Alright

I've seen league games played with one or two balloons!
Ross Tokely last weekend springs to mind.
58

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:47:06
57

Speakin of balloons.

Ajax, dont forget some of the stookies who lined up for the Gers vs. Falkirk.
59

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:49:18
55 Kirrie

Whats the point of posting under multiple user names?
60

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 03:51:09
58
McCulloch? Ehm..Dailly? Ferguson?



61

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 03:54:03
In the Albion gym they had pictures (drawings not photos) on the wall of all the players who had been selected for the Scotland squad since the club started.

I was always worried that one of the players would crash a shot there.

The manager at the time, Bob Shankly, said, "don't worry son, none of the boys have got that level of accuracy."
62

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 03:54:53
Ajax, Flairs went oot in the 70s.

I agree that Rangers would probably came back from an early goal, but there is NO guarantee. I remember Berwick. Need I go on?

Most Scottish teams have lost the flair and get caught up in dirges. It's coached out of them and not much else is put in it's place. Although the one touch passing game is more effective than dribbling.

The trick is knowing when to, and most Scottish teams, in fact all of them, haven't got the balance between one touch, dribbling when it is most effective and shooting at the right time. They tend to do it all in the wrong order. Dribble when the pass is on for a clear shot, shoot straight at the keeper when there is a guy available for a tap in. Stopping and holding the ball up and letting defenders recover when they only have one man to beat and get a clear shot, not shooting from around 20 to 25 yards when the chance is there and losing possession ultimately or passing it back into their own half instead. It all adds up to lost chances. That's what they have to work on as well as closing down as a team instead of one player trying to regain the ball from four defenders instead of 4 on 4 instantly. You wonder what they learn at these coaching affairs because there is so much they seem clueless about.
63

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 03:57:11
Okay lads time to call it a night.

It has been my pleasure to chat with all this evening/morning.

Happy to meet/chat, sorry to part, happy to meet/chat again.

Later.
64

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 04:03:29
62 Fitba Krazy,
You remember Berwick, was that the footy or one of Edward's invasions??

Can't add a single thing to your observances.
What we used to take for "instictive" play we now find out was knowledge gleened from the school playground and street games.
Even "kerby" taught you how to aim a throw in, when is the last time you saw kids playing Kerby?

We're all doomed!!
65

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 04:04:33
63, night, waiting for dawn here to take the dog out. Won't be long now.
66

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 04:08:37
#64

Kerby?

I thought what they did all day in Possil.


They never seem to have a ball, mind you
67

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 04:11:02
#65

Smart dogs take you on the usual route. Will it stop and sit outside the off-licence?
68

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 04:14:50
67
It'll be a bloody long walk to find one of those about here
69

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 04:18:15
#68

I see. So your fridge is bigger than your bedroom.
70

Fitba Krazy,

31/05/2009 04:18:43
64 Yer spot on there Ajax. They've lost the plot.

Probably too many motors noo for kerby, heiders and 3 and in in the street these days. And keeping it up against a wa yerself drives people bonkers, but all the different things we done from a very young age startin with keepy up and shots in with a balloon in the house to kicking a tennis or small rubber/sponge ball all the way tae school everyday for years and playing with all the different kind of balls must've made the difference, because we from that era have more natural ability with both feet than nowadays. They are more into wee tricks now that are no use in a game. That's also something I've noticed, instead of them getting both feet going with useful stuff. Anyway, I'll catch you all later, that's been a good natter with you guys. Goodnight for now.
71

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 04:21:09
CNN World Sport.

Round up of yesterday's major football matches.

They didnae even mention the Scottish Cup final.

That was after a five minute report on stranded whales in Australia.

What is happening?
72

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 04:25:13
69 well it can get chilly in both from time to time.

70 the team that makes the most of what it gets will still win, its just not agreat spectacle. Goodnight.
73

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 04:27:33
71
Aye, and Novo's goal must have been the goal of today in any country. Like to see a whale do that...was Hartson doing analysis today?
74

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 04:45:23
Who got the man of the match award?
75

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31/05/2009 07:19:24
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76

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 07:35:09
McCoist speaking after the game- Falkirk didnae have many chances.


His eyesight must be going as quickly as his hair....
77

ess,

31/05/2009 08:47:09
So well done to Rangers on their double. Falkirk deserved something from the game for some slick passing and it was usual anti football again from Rangers who stayed in their own half. Thankfully Celtic have got rid of the problem of where our dire football was coming from and whoever the new man will be will have them playing what Celtic traditionally play - stylish, attacking football. Rangers next season though will still have 'Walter and Coisty'.
78

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 08:55:48
So Rangers add another undeserved trophy to their haul. At least this won was actually won. Unlike some of the trophies in Rangers murky history that weren't actually won.

For some reason it was decided to award Rangers these trophies.

Many will say it's something to do with the OL/OO or the ML but who knows?

It's such a long time ago that who really cares?

Oops wait a minute. Who cares? Er all the wee narra people care. It matters a lot to them to believe they have some world record going on somewhere.

Still I'd rather discuss Celtic's European glories with anyone (and I mean ANYONE in the world) than discuss how Celtic beat Falkirk, Motherwell and even Rangers.

Most real football people want to discuss the game in a wider global context and not discuss or debate parochial fueds.

Wee Narra People! Who's like them? LOL

79

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 08:59:28
Three words that get Rangers fans fizzing;

Penarol

Barcelona

Linfield

wee narra people! Who's like them? LOL
80

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 09:01:15
One number that deflates Rangers fans everywhere; 351

That's how many league titles they have to win (legitimately mind) to match Celtic's European Champions triumph.

351 - one magic number.
81

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 09:02:33
52 and counting...hold on re-counting...er wait a minute...deducting.

WNP! Who's like them? LOL or Who likes them? LOL

82

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 09:08:03
#81

On the bevvy early today, I see.

Back to the CUP FINAL.

I thought WS was going to take McCoist off at H-T.

Bet he had a few words with him in the changing room.
83

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 09:16:43
82

I thought he was going to take McCoist off too - afterall Ally "Susan Boyle" McCoist had to fly to London to sing at Britain's Got Talent. Shame he finished second. Wasn't it?



84

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 09:18:01
83

McCoist's manboobs are just plain wrong. He has to do something about that. He can't continue to be in the public eye with those things bouncy bouncing around.
85

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 09:24:05
#84

Not all people at the top of their profession look like the next James Bond.

McCoist still manages to pull the birds, though.

The Scottish football manager was never known for good looks and build.

Jock Stein, Jimmy Calderwood, to name but two.
86

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 09:41:49
Couldn't leave out Willie Ormond
87

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 09:58:08
I thought Pundit might show up for the celebrations.

Maybe he's still buiding that log house in Millport that he was always going on aboot.
88

Charlie66,

31/05/2009 10:08:25
#82 - He doesn't need alcohol to ba na idiot. Look how bitter and jealous he is.
89

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 10:12:12
Congrats to the decent bears out there on yer double.To be fair although Celtic have been pretty dire you guys still had to overcome some significant hurdles over the last 6 months or so and WS has done a great job with the resources available.

To go off track a bit i would like to say that Mr Aidan Smith like a few before has penned a rather pathetic article in todays newspaper re CFC fans and their desire for a Celtic 'mindit' manager.

IMHO i dont know any Celtic fan that this has any real meaning for. Yes like Geordies with Shearer,Liverpool supportes and the boot room and indeed bears with the inevitable appointment of McCoist many fans take great pride when an ex player with strong ties to the club gets the nod for the managerial position.
Celtic fans are no different. However we place higher than that criteria of previous sterling service to the club the need to produce winning teams who play with a bit of style. In that regards thats why Dalgleish ( superb CFC credentials and Brady superb Celtic 'mindit' credentials) ultimately failed.

We at Celtic Football Club over the decades have shown that we dont care what the background of a player or manager is just as long as they can take the great Celtic story forward.
90

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 10:14:19

Ehmdae want to see if they can guess what my previous sign on was ?
91

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:22:03
90

Here here Bosco.

The media have jacked this whole "Celtic Minded" idea in a thinly veiled attempt to make Celtic fans (and directors) look like a bunch of bigots.

Anyone who knows the history of the great Celtic FC will see some of our greatest managers were not Celtic minded.

Jock Stein
Wim Jansen
Gordon Strachan

Some of the greatest ever Celtic men failed as managers.

James McGrory
Tommy Burns
Kenny Dalglish

We don't care about religion, colour or creed. When you look at our history.

Celtic had a foreign manager before Rangers.

Celtic had the one and only black manager in Scottish football.

Celtic had the first Slovakian manager of a Scottish club.

Celtic had a protestant manager almost 50 years before Rangers had a Catholic manager.

Real football people can see Celtic FC is all inclusive and always has been. No two bob wee narra journalists will ever change that.

92

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 10:24:11
#91

The dole?
93

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:24:47
91

In a court of law, the jury aren't allowed to see any previous.

But I guess your previous name was Bemused Exile? Or was it Brian Stewart? No wait, Pundit? Or was it Long John Lent?

One thing's for sure, no matter your name, you keep it entertaining. Keep up the good work.
94

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 10:25:33
#92

The first Slovakian manager.....
95

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:26:50
95

Yep

96

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 10:34:05
Thought everyone would be a CP today to see if Celtic can find that elusive goal.

Nakamura should find it easier to play in the game against Belgium today now that the monkey is off his back.
97

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:36:28
The media are trying to re-define "Celtic minded" in three ways. To be "Celtic minded" according to the media you have to be;

Irish
or Roman Catholic
or a Celtic boyhood fan

Or all three, or any combination of two.

The more accurate definition is Fergus McCann's, he stated his definition of Celtic minded and most real Celtic fans (the majority) will agree with this.

"My definition of a `Celtic-minded person' applies right across the board here, and that is a person who is determined to do the very best they possibly can on behalf of Celtic Football Club and meet our standards of professional qualifications, experience and commitment. That to me is `Celtic-minded', and that is what you look for when you hire anybody, and that is what we look for when we ask people to perform."

(source Independent Jan 1996)
98

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 10:37:04
Champions Celtic will bide their time to ensure that they secure the services of the best man for the job in the same way they organised the signing of Champions Celtics most successful manager since the late great Jock Stein,Gordon Strachan.



Rearrangerz on the other hand cant make their mind up between "Walter" and Fat-Al,particularly now that The Very Reverend The Mike McCurrupt hung up his sash along with Rearrangerz-minded Stuart Dougall.

Who fillz the referees posts will be every bit as crucial to Rearrangerz as any manager they have in charge.

Sad.
Isn`t it.
99

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:41:45
Ottmar Hitzfeld with his assistant Paul Lambert are being sounded out for the Celtic managerial positions.

100

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 10:42:59
#99

Celtic waiting?

Their already up to W in the telephone book.

Could be another Slovakian on the way
101

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 10:45:20
101

The last Slovakian mastermind a 5-1 hammering of Rangers.

102

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 10:46:06

Did Rearrangerz make an official announcement yet that it was in fact Fat-Al who was in charge yesterday ?

I gave bto a wee exclusive yesterday telling him just that.

Are Rearrangrz F.C still keeping their fanz in the dark about it ?


Rearrangerz fanz Deserve Better.
103

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 10:50:53
#103

He had the manager's headband on
104

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:02:32
McCoist said that when he retires from the game he is going to set up a restaurant chain.

Still hasnae got a name for it yet, though
105

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:04:06
105

He could call it "Fat Al's Diner"

But I prefer, Eat Junk, Talk Junk
106

Charlie66,

31/05/2009 11:04:11
Rangers - 110

Linfield - 99

Barcalona - 66

Penarol - 48 (+10 amateur titles prior to 1923 when their professional
league was introduced)

Sliema - 47.
107

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:08:09
107

An up pops Charlie the twister.

Facts are;

Linfield

Penarol

Barcelona

Have a bigger trophy haul than Rangers FC.

That's the facts - deal with it!

By the way, do you know that Rangers never actually won some of those trophies. It's in the history books you know, they never won them, but were strangely "awarded" them.

Some might say masonic or orange influence, but not me. I think it might just have been to appease 1000s of growling snarling nasty bigots.

108

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:10:47
Here's Case 1.

Here's case 1.

...........Pl...Won..Lost...Draw..GF...GA....PTS...

Team A...18...13....2.....3.....61...21....29

Team B...18...13....2.....3.....58...25....29


Which team in your view is the Champions? Team A? or Team B?

109

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:12:57
Next it's Case 2

_...........Pl...Won..Lost...Draw..GF...GA....PTS

Team A... 30...19...6.....5.....93...51...43

Team B... 30...18....5.....7....80...39....43

Which team in your view is the Champions? Team A? or Team B?

More cases to follow follow....


... as the great Rangers trophy winning scam is exposed to the world.
110

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:16:30
#109

Neither, because they are the bottom two teams
111

Charlie66,

31/05/2009 11:17:20
Bitter/Jealous - LOL.
112

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:18:49
#110

If you've got your old Hotspur Annuals down from the loft I can see that we're in for a long day
113

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:19:10
111

Yes you would think so - but in this particular season Rangers were champions.

But it's good you agree, this title in Case 1, was won by default.

Thanks, a Rangers fan who admits the truth.

51 and counting...sorry recounting...wait a minute deducting.
114

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:20:20
112

Not a very nice thing to say about your fellow Rangers fan "Kids are Alright".

Is it because he admits the truth?




115

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:24:52
Now then time to look through the 1920s and 1930's and the games Rangers won by default and subsequently won them more leagues by default.

Research, ye cannae beat it.

Penarol
Linfield
Barcelona

All have won more than Rangers FC.

350 titles to be won before Rangers better Celtic's European triumph.

Long way to go gers, shame you'll all pan bread! LOL
116

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 11:26:26
Rearrangerz FC may not have told their fanz who was in charge of that dross yesterday.
But I did.

It was JesterCoist.
Fat-Al was in charge of those headless chickens.

Come back "Walter" chantz can be heard from the back of the terraces but they will go unheard.

A wee inkling who was in charge was when wee Snatchie flooked that shot.
He immediately ran over to Fat-Al on the touchline whilst "Walter" was left with his dickie-bow in his hand.

That was a wee freudian slip by wee Snatchie that wont have gone unnoticed by a less than pleased "Walter".
Thats for sure.
117

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:32:51
117

McCoist said after the game that the decision to bring on Novo was a "joint" decision. So it sounds like it was drug influenced!

McCoist bad history with women, drink and now by the sounds of things (joint decision) drugs! Shocking for a manager to admit this.

The question remains; "How many Rangers players were drug tested after the game?"

118

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:34:28
Mind you, if I looked like Susan Boyle, I'd be on drugs too.
119

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:36:26
#117

The only chants I heard were family favourites. A few tricky Disney songs in there.
120

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:38:23
120

Royal family favourites?
121

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:48:03
First half there was a decent attempt at the Lynyrd Skynyrd classic "Double Trouble".

Soon changed to lesser known Santana number "Novo Doesnae Miss From That Range", in the second.
122

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 11:51:52
122

Dinna forget yer anthem "Bad" that old Jacko number.

Then there's the more apt "Every loser wins" Nick Berry penned that turkey.

123

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 11:56:54
#123

And the Celtic anthem. The old The Who number "So Sad About Us"
124

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:08:48
Japan leading Belgium 2-0 at H-T.

What a difference when the manager plays Nakamura in position.
125

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:18:35
sushi at half time, very healthy and full of important vitamins
126

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:24:16
What's the Japan manager doing...

Nakamura substituted.
127

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:25:45
Any scoring at CP yet?
128

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 12:28:44
Debt.

Huge mountainous sized debt.

Yes,I know,I know Rearrangerz fanz and the laptopz dont want to talk about Rearrangerz ever increasing debt mountain and will do all they can to keep any word of it off the back pages.

But I thought I would keep you up to date.

Remember Susan Rice I told you all about on several occassions in the past.
Susan is chairman and chief executive of Lloyds TSB Scotland and managing director of Lloyds Banking Group Scotland.
It was they who took over from Rearrangerz former bankers,the now defunct HBOS.

Anyway last week Susan was reappointed as a director of the Bank of England.

She is also ultimately responsible for all banking facilities that may or may not be offered Rearrangerz.



Susan is of Irish/American descent.

129

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:32:04
#129

change the record to something more appropriate

maybe zippety dooda?
130

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:35:18
If you rearrange the letters of Debt you create a number of meaningless words.
131

Media at One,

31/05/2009 12:35:47
Boring, boring, boring!
Is Scottish league football perhaps the worst on the planet?
132

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:38:00
#132

UEFA don't think so, automatic place in the Champions League for the champions worth approx £15m!
133

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:38:31
3-0 Japan.

First goal a yard off-side. Third goal a diving arm.

Idee, if you think the Scottish refs are bad....
134

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:39:28
think Mixu could do a job at CP, he can guide wee Aiden through the balding process
135

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:40:45
#132

More goals scored with over head kicks than any other league in the world
136

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:43:09
Walter's knighthood is a cert now
137

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:44:07
#135

If Slim Jim was still with us just think of the job he could do at Ibrox.
138

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 12:44:49
129 - Idee

Give all the nonsense a rest. Talk about football if you are able.

The Rangers fans are not losing sleep over who was in charge yesterday. Also, most clubs have debt issues that are problematic. Rangers had a huge problem with this in 2008/2009 but it turned out not too bad, even if the football quality was worse than most fans would like.

Is the heritage/nationality of a banker really a subject for a football forum.

Grow up and accept the way the awards have been divided up.

Congratulations to the Gers for a hard-fought season.
139

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:45:18
#137

Or at least a night hood
140

Shape to Shoot,

31/05/2009 12:45:25
nothing wrong with finigan's goal if you ask me. Linesman hoisted his flag as though it was a stick-on....the way he thrust it into the air you would have thought the player at the back post was a yard or more off-side.

The linesman had an excellent view...couldn't have been better.

Replays showed that it is virtually impossible to say definitely one way or the other. In these circumstances, the rules are clear : keep the flag down.
The goal should've stood, and the linesman knows it....everybody knows it.

After rangers' 'ball on the line' incident at easter road, the laptoployalz howled in the columns for days on end ...even though camera replays didn't show that the whole of the ball crossed the line.
Day, after day, after day, they bellowed about injustice....even though they knew it wiznae a goal ffs !!

Falkirk getting to a SC Final is a massive event...realistically, it is the most prestigious trophy that the club CAN win...a bit like what the UEFA Cup was for the OF....and they got royally shafted when that goal was chopped off yesterday yet it is barely a footnote in today's press.
141

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:45:51
#138

yep, as Goughie once said, the team that drinks together, wins together
142

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:46:54
Belgium struggling in the heat.

See, it's not only Boyd
143

must_score,

31/05/2009 12:51:01
Big Davie Weir, good for another two seasons...
144

Shape to Shoot,

31/05/2009 12:56:45
I go along with Davy Provan's verdict in today's NOTW...if we can get him , let's get Roy Keane into paradise asap.

Celtic Park is needing one enormous boot up the €rse from top to bottom. It's not fair to lay all the blame at Strachan's door for the complacency that has beset the place....even Desmond himself must accept that he shares some of the blame.

We need a regimental sergeant major to come in with power to tell everyone to straighten their tie / get their hair cut.

Roy Keane is a maverik. He sets his own standards and will not tolerate even the most obscure betrayal of his ideals. His bite is much, much worse than his fairly ferocious bark.

He is the very man to come in and give the much needed boot-up-the-€rse my club so badly needs.
145

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:56:53
#145

No manager is his right mind would want to break up the Dailly/Weir partnership
146

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 12:57:31
141 - Shape to Shoot

Seems like a pretty desperate claim to be honest.

1. Stewart was clearly offside. Close, but offside
2. The whistle was heard to sound before Finnigan touched the ball
3. I think the rule states that the attacking team should have the benefit of any doubt. In this case there was no doubt hence no benefit.

Sometimes you have to accept results, even if you don't like them.

Well done to Walter, Ally, Kenny and the team
147

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 12:58:51
#146

I would have thought the Alan Ball type is more likely
148

must_score,

31/05/2009 13:07:09
#149 Tommy Ball
149

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 13:07:14
Debt glorious debt
Bent refs and the linesmen


There`s a new signature tune in there somewhere for the start of the new Rearrangerz season.

One thingz for sure,Rearrangerz had better speak very politely indeed when they go with begging bowl to their new bankers.

And if their song is along the lines of the words of the first two sentences of this post then they will have a chance.

Any nonsense sing-songs could see the destruction of the club.

150

must_score,

31/05/2009 13:08:31
Bobby even
151

must_score,

31/05/2009 13:09:57
#151 utter tosh
152

Leatherhead,

31/05/2009 13:12:07

Any nonsense sing-songs could see the destruction of their club.


Hey bto thats you`re wee exclusive fur the day.



And remember,nearlyneurotic telt you so.
153

Shape to Shoot,

31/05/2009 13:15:13
148

He wasn't 'clearly' offside...he was online with the player , both their bodies leaning this way and that in the nano-second before the ball was struck. It simply isn't clear that he was offside....that means that the flag stays down as falkirk are to get the benefit of the doubt.

The point is though, look at the media reaction ? I tell you, had it been Celtic yesterday, the laptoployalz would've been droning on for days about how Falkirk were robbed....the linesman would have had his family links investigated and any tenuous links to Celtic would've been in the headlines....

Remember Boyd's 'goal' earlier in the season at motherwell....when he walloped it into the net long after the whistle had gone ? The public were drenched in the story for weeks after it, absolutely drenched in it. Walter Smith called into question the referee's integrity (but wasn't publicly castigated for it by the sfa in the way that levein was....despite the facts that levein actually had a point whereas walter was talking through his erchie).

As I mentioned, Falkirk in one of the biggest games in the history of the club got razored, and it's barely a footnote.
154

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 13:17:33
153 - must_score

Ignore Idee, he spouts venom and conspiracy to deflect from what is happening on the field as he does not really like what he sees. One day he might actually comment on the game, but I'm not holding my breath.

Watch for the next incoherent gibberish we are subjected to.
155

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 13:18:45
Fat defenders tend to distort the off-side rule.
156

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 13:25:09
155 - Shape to Shoot

Falkirk were "razored"? Really? I suggest you check the dosage on your meds.

I am sure you recorded the showpiece Final. Give it another viewing and you will see what the referee's assistant saw. I said clearly and I meant CLEARLY. Offside, without ANY question. This when the camera angle actually gives Stewart the benefit. When in line there is almost certainly daylight between the torsos. The media didn't make a story, coz there was no story.

Chill. Enjoy the sports pages in the sun.
157

Shape to Shoot,

31/05/2009 13:27:19
158

I think when you use the words 'almost certainly', you do your case for certainty irreparable damage.
158

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 13:37:45
159 - Shape to Shoot

Daylight simply puts it even more clearly for the referee's assistant, not necessary for the laws of the game.

Glad to see that paranoia still alive and well on the boards. "razored" - you really cheered me up with your wee joke, so thanks for that. Enjoy the day.
159

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 16:40:30
Ancelotti leaves Milan.

Celtic bound?

Hibs bound?

Aberdeen bound?

No doubt all three will be asking what salary he's on.

Meanwhile over at Ipox, it's the Susan Boyle and Walter Meldrew show.

160

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 16:43:26
Looking at Finnigan's goal again. I think had that been Boyd knocking it over to Miller then the goal would have counted.

Last week at Tannadice two Rangers goals were offside.

52 and counting...sorry re-counting...er..deducting.
161

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 16:47:20
I expect Celtic's new manager to win the title next year.

This season we should have won it but just couldn't score the last two or three games.

Next season I think it will be over before the split.

If Rangers were a good team I'd have my doubts but practically any manager worth his salt could walk into Celtic tomorrow and with better players, more money and a stable infrastructure then the league should be there for the taking.

We'll wait and see but, I'll be more than disapointed if the next manager can't win the title easily.

The trophy's out on loan Rangers. Enjoy it while you can.
162

Dabulamanzi,

31/05/2009 16:53:04
92 A celtc fan has to bring religion into the discussion about football. You are reallly a sad, obsessed bunch.

98 That was Fergus McCann's definition. What you omitted was that he stated that at the time he took over celtc minded at paranoiadise meant Irish catholic bigot.
163

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 16:58:01
165

truth hurts?
164

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 16:59:49
165

Who defined the term Celtic minded before Fergus?

Or did you just make that up?
165

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:06:26
Chelsea bound? Says who?

We gave it to you to keep you in existence.

52 were never actually won the first place.

52...re-counting and deducting.

The great Rangers trophy scam is uncovered.
166

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:15:35
170

See my earlier posts 109 and 110.

More cases to follow.

167

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:20:30
Case Three...

A more recent one for Rangers fans..


Dunfermline in 2003 (led by avid Rangers diehard James Calderwood) and before that game Rangers were awarded an unprecedented 3 penalties to ensure they took something from that game.

But there was the case of the penalty in the last minute to ensure Rangers won the title.

Question; did Dunfermline lose 6 goals to anyone else in that season?

49 and counting...er deducting...

More to follow.

The Rangers trophy scam is being uncovered at last.
168

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:26:39
173

Those titles were awarded dubiously. The first one for example had NO rules on goals scored or conceded. Then it went to a play off and it was a 2-2 draw. Still Rangers had their name on the trophy even though they NEVER actually won it.

Shoddy and dodgy enough to see for the real football people.

49 and re-counting...er deducting.

Your quote "I don't care how we won them" re-inforces my case that Rangers never actually won these trophies.

Thanks for that.

Just 352 title wins to go before Rangers can better Celtic's European triumph.

I doubt Rangers will even be existence in 35 years time never mind 350 odds.

Wee narra people! LOL
169

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:28:02
174

Not as silly as many Rangers fans talking about mythical world records and 111 trophies etc...

Penarol

Barcelona

Linfield

All have won MORE trophies than Rangers FC. FACT.
170

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:39:12
177

Linfield

Penarol

Barcelona

More than Rangers FC. By a distance.

The rest of the world considers every Scottish trophy as a wee diddy trophy - even the league.

I know I'd rather discuss Celtic's European triumphs with any football fan in any place in the world than discuss Celtic beating the likes of Falkirk, Motherwell and lowlife Rangers.

Real football people want to discuss the game in a wider global context, not listen to some ranter jibbering about local feuds.

351 to win, before Rangers FC come close to bettering Celtic's European triumph.

171

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:42:43
Is it not rather strange that Celtic have a better European record than Rangers (even though Rangers have played more games)

yet

Rangers have a better domestic (albeit dubious)than Celtic given that they have played roughly the same amount of games.

Thsi can only be down to one thing.

Referees.

In Europe Celtic get a fair ref 90% of the time.

In Scotland Celtic get an unfair ref 90% of the time.

172

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31/05/2009 17:46:45
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Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:51:28
180

No I have proved you actually have 49 at the moment (I am still deducting those you never actually won). So it's 352 to better Celtic's European achievement going on the geographic argument.

Diddy cups? Exactly, if you count scottish trophies you have to count every trophy ever played for at senior level - because Scottish trophies are as diddy as it gets.

Incidentally try telling Linfield that playing sya Shamrock Rovers for the All Ireland Shield is a "diddy meaningless trophy" that's an old firm game for the real nutters.

352 and counting.

174

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 17:53:18
179 - Celtic Fan

The difference in record is really down to the fact that Celtic had an exceptional side for a few years and had a remarkable success in the European Cup.

You will notice that I recognise the successes of Celtic, unlike your "lowlife Rangers" attitude.

All sides have their share of good and bad refereeing decisions. The Gers fans can easily point to very significant decisions in 2008/2009 that cost Rangers points.

Re the 2003 season - I recall the story from Gordon Marshall where he received grief from Celtic players for trying too hard against his former side on that final day. How did that final performance for Kilmarnock compare with the rest of their season?

I assume you were also bleating about Jimmy Calderwood when he set out a team fired up to beat Rangers on the final day of last season.

You are bitter, you are twisted. You lack class. Accept it. The best team won the league and Rangers are Champions. FACT

175

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:56:15
We can argue records all day, the bottom line is this;

For the sake of Scottish Football and Scottish Society it would be best for all to close down Rangers FC.

Just think what a nice place Govan/Ibrox could be if Rangers were closed down for good.

Just think what a nice family entertainment football would be if Rangers FC were closed down.

Just imagine a scottish league where fair play and no cheating occured if Rangers FC were closed down.

Gordon Smith, David Murray, do the decent thing, close down Rangers FC.

The world deserves better.
176

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 17:58:05
183

We gave you the league to save your bacon.

Next season we'll take back our trophy and order will be restored.

The world will be righted, cheats never win in the long run.
177

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 18:00:13
183

The irony is hilarious.

A Rangers fan (yep a snarling, beer guzzling, hate filled, sectarian, racist, skinhead, tattoed, pierced, BNP supporter) has just said I have no class.

Hilarious.

More I say, more.
178

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 18:03:53
185 - Gotcha. It all makes sense now. The Celtic board, management and fans all wanted to save Rangers. From your earlier posts, I thought you wanted us closed down. You seem a bit confused, I assume you have been out in the sun too long today.

Go on, be magnanimous and congratulate your national Champions. You know you want to.....
179

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Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 18:05:50
My previous name was The Historian.
181

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 18:06:49
186 - You know me how? From my genuine and sincere posts how can you describe me such. I am a reasonable and sensible fan of a great game. I have admired Celtic's play many times in my years enjoying the game. Check out my posts today (and before). I don't need to plumb the depths
182

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 18:07:06
188

Make it up as you go along. Just like you make up records and victories.

Meanwhile, we'll just laugh at you wee narra people.

352 and re-counting, sorry deducting.

183

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 18:13:17
187 - thegersfan - been here with this name for 18 months or so. I like to pop on when the philosophers are all active ;)

Thanks for the kind words.

I prefer genuine football debate and hate the nonsensical bigotry and paranoia. I saw all the decisions against Rangers this past season, but people make mistakes. I sometimes do in my job.

I will try to contribute more often, but sometimes the nonsense (from all sides incidentally) just makes me switch to something more interesting.
184

George Kay,

The Smoke 31/05/2009 18:27:36
Glad to see the back of this season. It promised an emphatic continuation of our recent dominance, but ended up with us looking on helplessly as Rangers won the double. I have to be honest and confess that over the season they've probably deserved it, and just like Celtic last year they put an impressive late run together when it really counted. A bit late now, but once again I have to criticise the attitude of our money men in January. A couple of significant signings could have left Rangers high and dry not only in this title race but possibly for the next few years. Letting RFC lift the title has caused a financial swing of at least £20 million, when you consider their guaranteed CL money next season, and the probability that we'll stumble on that particular journey and end up with Europa crumbs. I've even done my trophy sums and realised that they've lifted 11 major domestic trophies in the last eight seasons compared to our 10, so maybe our "dominance" was a little bit of an illusion. The only bright spot is that it looks like they'll still have very little to spend in the summer, so the right managerial appointment, and a couple of good quality players should hopefully see us back on top. Here's hoping!
185

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 18:44:43
194

Sums George? Why did you start them after Celtic won the treble under MON.

In the last nine seasons Celtic have won 13 trophies. 6 of them titles. Rangers have won 11 trophies only three of them titles.

If Celtic had a bit of luck and fairness we'd have won 9 in a row.

George you don't need to pretend your a Celtic fan, it's obvious your a Rangers fan in disguise.

186

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 18:48:02
195

Yes it can be pathetic, especially when Rangers fans start ranting on about world records yet when checked they are proved to be hollow. That is pathetic.
187

George Kay,

31/05/2009 18:59:12
Hello 196. It's Mr Malloy, isn't it? You're absolutely right, I could've started my trophy count two years earlier to include MoN's successful first seasons in charge. Ot even two seasons before that at the start of the Advocaat reign. I chose the last eight seasons because they start with the McLeish era, ie the period where Rangers haven't been able to buy success by outspending Celtic, yet they've still ended up with more trophies than us. It's only a statistic, don't get too hung up on it. I'd rather have our trophies than theirs. And I'm certainly a Celtic fan. Just not the same kind as you, my bhoy!
188

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 18:59:36
George Kay - interesting post and well balanced. I think next year promises a lot. The swing in finances will realistically mean that Rangers are not under such great pressure to sell top names, but I don't see there being big money spent. The lift of a new manager will help Celtic, and any new manager should demand (and get) a transfer kitty. We also have to be honest and accept that most decent players would rather ply their trade with Stoke, Sunderland etc. than the Old Firm, especially if they have enjoyed (!?!) a Setanta subscription in recent years.
189

Zed's Dead,

31/05/2009 19:03:36
George - one post script. As you rightly indicate, there is of course no guarantee of a swing and with a favourable draw and decent performances we may find we have to share the CL revenue once again.

Nice jab back to Just a Celtic Fan BTW. It is good to have some common sense from the hooped side.

190

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 19:05:26
198

Aye I believe you George. NOT. You can kid yourself but not me or any real celtic fan.

So Rangers fans now in disguise - is it that bad? Was the double that embarrassing? Would have been better had you actually won it instead of winning by deafult again.

So Mr George Rangers biggest fan, Rangers haven't had the cash, er take a wee look at actual cash spent last eight years, you'll find it's almost even.

OMG Zed the ned's fallen for it. LOL

Wee narra people. LOL


191

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:11:13
Regards the CL final on wednesday it was great to see
Barcelona put Manchester United – and English football – in their place.

It is likely that no English team can match Barcelona for skill on their top form, and what's more they probably shouldn't try.
192

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:12:35
English team participate in the CL in the knowledge that the best in England is some ­distance below the best in the world.
193

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:13:32
English teams grind down their rivals with their enormous budgets and extensive scouting networks. While United, formidable as they are, do it better than most they do not have a monopoly on skill, and they left Rome with the uneasy feeling that some things might be forever beyond them.

194

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:14:18
United rode their luck to a greater or lesser extent in their three successful European Cup finals: this time it ran out completely. They met a side with all the skill in the world, and it showed. Even though the Champions League final is a monument to the riches and razzle-dazzle of modern football, there were some eternal truths on show in the Eternal City. Damningly one-sided though the game was, one could not help but feel privileged to see something wonderful gain its reward. Barcelona are moving the game on, as Cruyff turns did in their time and deep-lying centre-forwards before that. The supposed power that is England is once again in the position of spectator, standing still and having little option but to applaud.

195

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:15:56
Sir Alex Ferguson thought he could match Barcelona for attacking dynamism, and ended up learning the same harsh European lesson that countless managers from English clubs have learned over the years, he among them. What works in this country and this league will not necessarily work against opponents who can keep the ball and attack with subtlety and intelligence.

196

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:17:10


Barcelona displayed the sort of flair and imagination rarely seen in the Premier League, where the vast majority of clubs would actively discourage it, and it is refreshing to see it flourishing elsewhere.
197

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:18:56
English football has little to be ashamed about – skill, speed, technical and tactical ability have all soared in the past decade or two – yet next to Barcelona at their best almost anyone is going to look slightly clodhopping.

"This is a bitter pill to swallow because we have been very successful in our own league and it is a funny way to finish the season," Rio Ferdinand said, neatly emphasising that the gap between best in England and best in Europe appears to be widening again.
198

Bosco Bhoy68,

31/05/2009 19:20:09


If United are to win the Champions League again in the near future they must hope Barcelona either have an off day in the earlier stages or meet a competent referee at Chelsea. No English team are currently set up to match them for skill, and it may even be inadvisable for any to try to do so if they also want to win the Premier League. Ask Wenger.

199

George Kay,

31/05/2009 19:30:22
You are priceless, Tim. When I think of the cold and wet afternoons and evenings that I spent on the terracings of Paradise in the 1970's, watching George Connelly and Kenny Dalglish, Harry Hood and Dixie Deans, only to be told thirty-odd years later that I can't be a Celtic supporter because I can look at things fairly. It's sometimes hard to believe that we spent our time on the same school playground. You haven't moved on at all, have you?
200

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 19:45:00
210

But that's where you gave your game away George. You NEVER looked at things fairly.

Firstly you started the trophy count in Rangers favvour. When any true Celtic fan would have started the count when MON arrived.

Secondly you mention about Rangers not spending any money - take a look at the money spent. Rangers spent more than three times the amount Celtic spent this season.

Your version of things are far too slanted in Rangers favour, you are kidding no one. You are a Rangers fan in disguise and it's not not hard to believe we spent time in the same playground because we never did.

You can kid yourself George, but you can't kid a kidder.

352 and re-counting, er deducting.
201

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 19:47:44
Funny how Rangers fans want to bring schools into things isn't it?

ps..And another thing George, Celtic fans don't go around calling fellow Celtic fans Tim, that's another howler you've dropped.

Must try harder with those disguises.

Penarol, Linfield and Barcelona.


202

George Kay,

31/05/2009 19:54:26
Tim, if it's the name that you use, then it's the name that I'll call you. It's only good manners after all, and we learned those back in those 1970's Saint A's days, did we not? You can fool some of the people some of the time, my lad, but not a fellow Celt!
203

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 19:57:19
213

Since when did I use the name TIM anywhere?

George stop making things up, you are only digging yourself into a deeper hole. Have you not learned?

I think you must be mixing me up with someone else, St A's? What is St A's?
204

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 20:11:51
215 - Dunno is there?

Betcha George Kay is not a member.
205

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 20:13:03
215

What's your definition of a tim?
206

George Kay,

31/05/2009 20:16:13
Come on Tim. We walked side-by-side in those short trousers through the St A gates back in the ould days. Why deny it? Do you realise that we even had a teacher in the seventies called Bernadette Devlin? What a cool school that was!
207

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 20:20:39
218

If you think so. Who's Bernadette Devlin? Hand in hand short trousers, you're having a real laugh! What's St A???

You're barking, and barking up the wrong tree. But carry on if it keeps you amused, at least it will stop you posting lies about Celtic.

Wee narra people! LOL

208

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 20:26:27
218

George I can see you are bitter and twisted that I caught you out.

I don't know why you tried, is it really that shameful to be a Rangers fan? That shameful that you can't discuss the game wearing your true colours?

I know the trophy scam has been uncovered, but get over it.
209

wayne bijlyeerheid,

31/05/2009 20:44:41
Well done to Falkirk for a good cup final, well done to The Rangers for winning.
Who were celtc playing yesterday then?
All this mouthing off when their season was over the week before.
Bouncy bouncy for Ibrox, dead cat bounce for hoopy bigots.
210

Just a Celtic Fan,

31/05/2009 20:46:40
221

Enjoy your small victory.

352 to go to equal Celtic's triumph.
211

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 21:38:07
Just a Celtic Fan

Statto, statto, statto.

212

Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 21:42:05
Just a Celtic Fan

Scotland are 400th of Europe, so a 1967 win is 400 times better than the SPL?

Priceless.
213

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Ajax MacKindling,

31/05/2009 22:40:20
Just a Celtic Fan

Soooo if the sums are right, England is about 10 times the size of Scotland, and Nottingham Forest won the European cup back to back...so Nottigham Forest are about a Squillionbadillion times better than Celtc at the moment?

Eejit, statto, statto, statto!
215

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 22:49:05
Did you know that twice as many people live in Belgium as do in Scotland.

I was stunned when I heard that while doing some charity work yesterday.
216

Leatherhead,

Fat-Al Will Be FATAL !!! 31/05/2009 23:08:29
After Saturdays dross Rearrangerz fanz are al"ready" cryin in their beer.

We dont want Fat-Al boo hoo sob.

We,the Wee Narrow Peeppel want "Walter" back sob sob.

"Walter" The Man With No Surname.

Jester is a joke the Rearrangerz hordez wail.

However,Minty the Skinty has spoke and Fat-Al is as good as its gonnae get.



Sad.
Isn`t it.
217

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 23:19:41
Idee

Football is all about characters, and McCoist is one the best.Compare this to the "Sulky Sisters" who failed to win a major title this season.

218

Cockney Ranger,

Grays 31/05/2009 23:35:52
JACF

Case for the defence

Case #1 1890/91 Rangers joint winners, goal difference or goal average not thought of (remember the last eight words).

Case #2 1952/53 Rangers win the league on goal average, checked Hibs website they don't claim to have lost league by default, still not happy, then check your own kerrydale street website, 1952/53 have Rangers winning the league on goal average 2.05 Gers : Hibs 1.82

Now check season 1904/05

played W D L F A Pts
Team A 26 18 5 3 68 31 41
Team B 26 19 3 4 83 28 41

Which team should have been champs, but guess who team A is, BUT the same rules applied as in case #1 no goal difference / average in play.

As your name suggests JUST a celtic fan not even a historian as claimed in #190 and if your #172 comment is much to go by your previous name is chris crybaby sutton.

52 League titles against 42
219

Leatherhead,

Fat-Al Wil Be FATAL !!! 31/05/2009 23:42:00
bto

Yep.

And JesterCoist is larger than life.

Standing on the touchline all through the middle of winter with his shortz on.
`n there he was on Saturday,sun splittin the trees and there`s the bold Fat-Al standin on the touchline with three(3)jersey tops on !!!

JesterCoist has al"ready" cracked under the pressure.

This has already transmitted through to the Rearrangerz players who never kicked a ball between them on Saturday.
Falkirk,nearly the worst team in the SPL played JesterCoists Rearrangerz team off the park.


Fat-Al Must Stay.
Not half.
220

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 23:45:09
#231

I was married to one of they types once.

Made going to work a pleasure.
221

The Kids Are Alright,

31/05/2009 23:47:13
#232

His change in appearance is all down to maturity
222

Daillyman,

01/06/2009 00:32:55
Good to see Mr. Malloy back.

230

Tried to point out the same thing to our friend before, goal average was different to goal difference.

As for sharing the title with Dumbarton after a 2-2 extra game playoff in the league, both teams named as joint champions for that season. Facts sometimes just confuses some people.

 

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