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Published Date: 14 June 2009
FORMER US presidential candidate Steve Forbes will urge Alex Salmond to avoid burdening Scotland with a punishing tax regime when they meet at Gleneagles this week.
Forbes, the chairman and chief executive of the eponymous US publishing giant, will be "in conversation" with the First Minister tomorrow at a key conference of business and political leaders.

Forbes plans to question Salmond on his policies, notably taxation, in front of an audience of 200 Scottish and international delegates.

In an interview with Scotland on Sunday in advance of the Forbes CEO Forum, he said: "I'm looking forward to getting his perspective on a number of issues. I want to find out what the 'tartan tax' really means. I hope he will come to take the view that if you have a benign tax regime you can become an even more vigorous economic centre in the way Hong Kong and Singapore have done over the years," he said.

Forbes' questions on tax will take on a greater significance if, as widely expected, the Calman Commission recommends more sweeping tax powers for Holyrood when it reports tomorrow.

Forbes offered a vote of confidence in Scotland's financial services sector in advance of the meeting by saying it is "in the genes". He added: "Scotland can remain a centre of finance."

Forbes believes Scots can hold on to their reputation of trust in international markets despite the fall-out from the demise of its big banks and a shared sense of failure.

Giving reasons for his optimism, Forbes said: "Scotland has become a place where people are looking for economic growth and innovation. Scotland now has an opportunity in this time of economic turmoil while everyone is focused on near-term difficulties."

The conference brings together chief executives, academics and politicians from around the world to discuss innovation as part of Homecoming Scotland. Forbes says it will give him a chance to combine business with ancestry research. His grandfather, an Aberdeenshire-born journalist, emigrated to the US in 1904 and set-up Forbes magazine in 1917.

Forbes hopes the conference will lead to more business being done between Scotland and the US. He describes Donald Trump's golf venture on this side of the Atlantic as a "win-win for everyone". He says: "Having that kind of capital flow across water will help create opportunity and growth."

However, contrary to economic reports in the UK last week, he is not convinced global recovery has started. "The recession has bottomed out. How vigorous the recovery will be in the US will depend on how successful the Federal Reserve is in

getting the economy fully working. It's only partially working at the moment. As soon as the US starts to have a true recovery the better off we're all going to be."

Forbes stood as Republican candidate in the US presidential primaries in 1996 and 2000.

He is critical of some of President Obama's actions on the economy so far. He told Scotland on Saunday: "The spending approach was a misguided one. It takes a long time for the government to gear up to spend."

In May, he says only $31 billion of the £700bn Obama pledged to pump into the economy was spent. He argues a more effective policy in the short term would be to reduce payroll tax which would have given employees more money and reduced the cost for companies. "It was a clumsy way to go about it," he said.

He does not think the financial services sector will be as "bloated" when it recovers from the recession. He blames the crisis on the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, printing too much money from 2003 onwards. "If the Fed does its job now you'll see a resurgence in financial services, but much saner and healthier growth."

Other speakers at the conference include Sir Bill Gammell, chief executive of Cairn Energy, Lady Barbara Judge, chairman of the UK Atomic Energy Authority, and Neelie Kroes, the European Commissioner for Competition.

Also speaking before the conference, Philip Carmichael, president of Asia and Pacific at Haier Group, the world's biggest manufacturers of refrigerators, praised Scotland for its work in international markets.

He said Scottish Enterprise and Scottish Development International have built strong teams in China to help firms through bureaucracy. "Scottish companies that are ignoring Asia are doing so at their peril," he said.

The full article contains 733 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 13 June 2009 2:11 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Economic indicators
 
1

TheUnionisBritish,

14/06/2009 00:16:52
I see that the serial moner has posted on the other threads as well.

'When First Minister Alex Salmond addresses the Forbes conference at Gleneagles tomorrow he'll make much of the £500 million of inward investment that was drawn to Scotland last year, by no means a meagre sum, but hardly on the scale of earlier years when foreign multinationals poured billions into the country and flooded the former industrial heartlands with computer assembly plants.

Much will be made of last year's investment, particularly during a severe recession. But on the face of it, £500m does not seem an awful lot. After all, it equates to the annual budget last year of Scottish Enterprise. So for every pound brought in, we spent the same sum on trying to stimulate the economy. It seems we're merely treading water.

But there is a more positive note to this. The quality of the jobs being attracted is far different to those that filled the electronics sheds in the 1970s and 1980s. There may be fewer of them – 1,800 last year is about equal to a single investment in the heyday of Locate in Scotland – but they are more highly qualified and higher paid. As such, there is more likelihood that they will be anchored in Scotland, rather than hop off to a cheaper destination when the fancy takes them.'
2

The Answer,

Glasgow 14/06/2009 01:19:57
Facts (less than 1 in 5 jobs England are public sector, 1 in 4 jobs scotland are public sector)

64.1% economic activity rate England
63.8% economic activity rate scotland

35.9% economic inactivity rate England
36.2% economic iactivity rate scotland

71.4% male economic activity rate England
70.3% male economic activit rate scotland

28.6% male inactivity rate England
29.7% male inactivity rate scotland

65.8% male employment rate England
65.5% male employment rate scotland

ELMR Statistics.gov.uk June 2009
tinyurl.com/qv3p3g
3

Willie Mor,

14/06/2009 01:22:38
A somewhat skewed headline from the good old Sunday Scotsman.

Rather than portraying the meeting between the First Minister and ex US presidenial candidate Steve Forbes as being positive and a good thing to promote economic development, our Sunday tabloid lead the article with the dirty end of the stick.

C,mon Hootsman. How about a little less bias, and a little bit more factual reporting. Make yourself a paper that Scotland can be proud of.
4

W Smith,

Middle East 14/06/2009 10:41:56
Considering wee Alex is earning the same as the Prime Mininster of Austrlia its high time he got off his wee fat a**e.

Australia's Kevin Rudd is on US$ 229,000 with Salmond on USD 230,000!

EH,... .. FOR DOING WHAT EXACTLY???

#1 is correct.

As pointed out by one of his financial backers Tom Hunter, he was all pro-business when he was campaigning to become First Minister.

Since then he spends more time hanging out with the marxists at Stop The War Coalition rallies while Scotland's manufacturing industry goes to the wall.

Not good enough Alex.

Time to get your act together as the political fog caused by the Iraq War begins to clear you are looking like a loony leftie who supports Jihad while you hide behind arguements about the war being "illegal".

Like the Sinn Fein you were in contact with in the eighties were above board and legitimate, eh Alex?

BTW
Locate in Scotland, under the Tories, brought more jobs to Scotland than this lot at Holyrood.
5

livilion,

livingston 14/06/2009 11:52:07
3 The Answer
If you are the answer what was the question?

Is it time to stop handing over your wages to your next door neighbour, depending on handouts for pocket money, and letting them take take care of your house and home for you?
OR
Who will best take take care of you and your family's interests, you or your benificent next door neighbour?
OR
Isn't it time to grow a pair of cojones and run your own life for a change?
6

jkr,

Lochwinnoch greater glasgow 14/06/2009 11:57:53
Steve Forbes should be told that that Scotland is the only country in the world that has a parliament that has no real tax powers.
7

livilion,

livingston 14/06/2009 12:32:13
5 W Smith,Middle East

I'm sure Kevin Rudd is worth every penny of his Australian tax dollars the country has seen fit to pay him.
Alex Salmond donates more to charity every year than some(a few?) Westminster parliamentarians would claim back in expenses.

Unlike Darling and Brown, I cannot recall the former RBS oil economist ever being described as a paid up Marxist himself.
Btw congrats on finding some Marxists to fraternise with, because since Thatcher removed heavy industry from the economic map of Scotland it seems to me an awfull lot of them ended up in the House of Lords as Labour peers.

The legitimate Irish politicos Salmond might have been in contact with were as nothing compared with the actual terrorists HM Govt were in contact with from the 80's through to the end of the violence in Ireland, Osama bin Laden and his lot our government sponsored and trained, likewise some pretty unsavoury characters from Iran, Iraq, South Africa and beyond, during the same period.

Margaret Thatcher brought jobs to Scotland?
Granted, Thatcher lucked into the North Sea oil boom, and she was nowhere as right wing as her New Labour accolites, but you'd be prepared to go to the polls based on Thatcher's record on the Scottish jobs market?

Earth to planet W Smith...

8

Temple,

Italy 14/06/2009 12:32:32
Just a question : why the US tycoon Mr.Forbes minding scotland business ?
and what the hell he want ?
9

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/06/2009 13:56:09
#1, Hagar & #5, WS.

Since when has a strong economy precluded a social conscience?

This is the mind-set of Free-market libertarians; the mentality that its all right for the rich to prosper at the expense of the poor.

An evil creed propounded by underdeveloped human beings.

FOR A FAIRE AND MORE PROSPEROUS SCOTLAND: VOTE SNP.
10

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/06/2009 14:01:42
#9, Temple.

Mr. Forbes is in Scotland at the invitation of Homecoming Scotland.

Homecoming Scotland's aim is to raise Scotland's profile, throughout the world, with the aim of showcasing Scotland's assets and to encourage investment in the Scottish Economy.

Mr. Forbes's publication is an influencial journal within the worldwide business community.
11

Temple,

Italy 14/06/2009 14:33:49
thx Frank
12

Nebulous,

Aberdeen 14/06/2009 18:51:45
#3 "The answer" your own figures don't bear out what you are trying to say. From the table you posted a link to!

"The answer" I'm not getting that from the table you posted. From the summary table on the front page:-

Total aged 16 and over economically active.
England 79.7%
Scotland 79.8%

Employment men
England 77.7%
Scotland 77.6%

Employment women
England 69.6%
Scotland 72.1%

Unemployment men
England 7.8%
Scotland 6.9%

Unemployment women
England 6.4%
Scotland 4.7%

So those figures are pretty strongly in Scotland's favour. Just one more point, don't women count in your world?


13

Tappets,

Edinburgh 14/06/2009 23:42:31
We should close the Scottish Parliament. Why do we need so may people to run our lives? Euro,British,Scttish and local.
There are far too many people in these positions with little to do so we get unneccessary legislation based on whims and fantisy. We cannot afford this many people draining the economy of finances.
We should invest in industry which adds value to our economy, we need to balance the books and get away from this hand-out mentallity we seem to think is ours by right.

 

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