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Published Date: 03 May 2009
MARGARET Thatcher showed last night she had not lost any of her ability to polarise political opinion when she was urged to apologise for the destruction her policies had wrought on Scotland.
The call came from Labour a few hours before Baroness Thatcher was made a rare visit north of the border for a grand dinner to celebrate the 30th anniversary of her 1979 election victory that changed the United Kingdom for ever.

Even at the age of
82 and suffering from dementia, the Iron Lady's scheduled appearance last night at the Glasgow dinner organised by the East Renfrewshire and Conservative Association was enough to enrage Labour.

Margaret Curran, the Glasgow Baillieston MSP, called on Thatcher to say sorry for neglecting Glasgow's heavy industries and for introducing the hated poll tax that contributed so much to her downfall after 11 years.

Curran said: "Margaret Thatcher should apologise to Glasgow for her policies that wreaked havoc on our city. The constituency I represent is still trying to recover from the destruction that ensued from her plans and political approach.

"This is the woman that closed down our shipyards and steel mills, believed that unemployment is a price worth paying, and then told us that she knew best.

"If that wasn't bad enough, she used Scotland as a guinea pig for the poll tax. The Tories abandoned families and offered no support to people in desperate circumstances."

Thatcher arrived at the Thistle Hotel, Glasgow, last night for a dinner with more than 400 Tory grandees and activists.

"We just want to say thank-you to her, because I suppose this might be the last time that she visits Scotland," said one Tory MSP.

A Conservative Party spokesman said Curran should concentrate on the difficulties facing the country at the moment rather than criticising the politics of the past.

"The Labour Party needs to move with the times," the spokesman said. "They need to recognise the recession that they have landed the country in and realise that that is the issue that is on everybody's minds at the moment."

Thatcher was guest of honour at the dinner and was joined by two former Scottish Secretaries in Lord Forsyth and Lord Lang as well as Lord MacKay, the former Lord Chancellor, Allan Stewart, the former Scottish Office minister and MP for Eastwood, and Annabel Goldie, the leader of the Scottish party.

The main speaker was Forsyth, who gave a very different version of history than Curran's, praising Thatcher for rescuing Britain from the "horrors of Labour in the 1970s".

In his tribute to the UK's first female prime minister, Forsyth praised her for taking on the trades unions, for "unleashing a new age of enterprise and wealth creation", privatising businesses and selling council houses.

He also defended her decision to introduce the poll tax, claiming it had to be done to tackle the unfairness of domestic rates, although he acknowledge it was badly implemented.





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  • Last Updated: 02 May 2009 10:02 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Conservative Party
 
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03/05/2009 00:55:21
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The Online Scot,

Scotland 03/05/2009 00:56:03
Margaret Curran is a little late with this. She could have issued this 'demand' at the time when Gordon Brown was entertaining Mrs Thatcher at 10 Downing street.

Maybe even when the portrait of Thatcher was commissioned by Brown.

Strangely, Curran was very quiet on these occassions !!
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Brianwci,

03/05/2009 01:05:56
An insider said that Thatcher swatted Curran aside saying, 'I only have 11 years to apologise for, Labour has 50 years to apologise to Glasgow and Scotland for letting them down.'
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03/05/2009 01:10:14
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 03/05/2009 01:14:01
Maggie Thatcher introduced the concept that public services, such as the NHS, Rubbish Collection, etc, etc should make a profit. This has led to hospitals being run by accountants.

Rather than reverse these policies, Maggie Brown has expanded them and added his own perverted twists, like PFI/PPP, where Labour Party contributors are allowed to rape the public purse.

Both Labour and Tories should be apologising.

As for Labour Party constituencies?? When have they benefited from voting Labour. I see Curren is blaming Maggie Thatcher for the state of he constituency, even although though she left politics nearly 20-years ago.

By Currans reckoning, how long will Scotland still be blaming Blair/Brown.

I read in the Herald that Jim Devine, Labour MP has been caught stealing from his own staff.

http://tinyurl.com/dhekl2
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Matt there,

Somewhere 03/05/2009 01:19:33
Surely Margaret Curran would have been more relevant if she had asked Gordon Brown, the Alexanders, etc., to apologise for what they are doing to Scotland now?
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Forward not Back,

03/05/2009 01:19:37
I wonder if Curran will also demand that the trade unions apologise for their political games in the late 60s and early 70s that led to the destruction of all competitive advantage Scottish industry had at that time?

Thatcher was the executioner, the unions were the poisoners.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 03/05/2009 01:19:55
Regarding The Herald. The website will be relaunched as HeraldScotland.com later this month, and will (hopefully) have a redesigned HeraldTalk too.
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Edward,

03/05/2009 01:38:36
Curran is a joke!
This is obviously a PR stunt by Curran to try and raise her profile, as Labour as a whole are myred in the smelly brown stuff!
If Curran is serious about Thatcher, her first port of call should be to go and see Gordon Brown and ask him to explain why he thinks the world of Thatcher!
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Mogwai Fear Santa,

03/05/2009 01:49:12
Kill them both with fire. It's the only way to make sure.
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FerryPort,

03/05/2009 01:53:14
I once asked friends at a party in the early 90's if they would give Margaret Thatcher a glass of water if she was lying dying outside their front door. Each and every one (couldn't spell Unanamousily) said "No". Even pushed on the humanitarian front and "she's someone's mum, for god sakes"
Well hated.
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FerryPort,

03/05/2009 02:00:52
From Geordie, a Torridan worthie, circia 1992 whilst entertaining tourists
"Aye, there are 2 monsters alive and living in these lands. One is the Loch Ness Monster and the other is Margaret Thatcher! And there's not a tree strong enough to hang the b@stard!"

Good on you Geordie x
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FerryPort,

03/05/2009 02:02:42
Mogwai Fear Santa

LOL

The cleansing of the fire
Ahh...
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 02:19:07

MARGARET Thatcher a flamboyant Character, who had the UK mesmerized to Vote for Her, making the News everyday!

In today's day-and-age, all we have is MICE!

Hiding in any place that they can, not willing to back-up their Policies to make Change.

None-The-Wonder! We only have one Winner, and that is and always Will be, The Labour Party!

Hate Brown all you Like!, He is not a Man that Hides!


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2Right,

On Location 03/05/2009 03:01:08
Do we really want her apologies ?

We should all make sure her party are never allowed to do the same again to Scotland.

Making sure they never win another election north of the border will be enough.
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W Smith,

Middle East 03/05/2009 03:27:43
Mrs Thatcher should apologise to the SNPs Brian Soutar as well then, eh?

If she hadn't deregulated public transport the SNP wouldn't be getting so much of Soutars cash now would they.

Its not just Donald Dewar who was the anti-Thatcher hypocrite who went on to invests lots of money in shares of the privatised companies.

The SNPs Jim Mather has a fair old whack tucked away in these privatised companies.

Nothing like joined up thinking form the SNP and, once again, this ain't joined up thinking.

BTW
Millionaire Salmond drives about in his Lexus pretending not to be another Donald Dewar.

The SNP would have us believe Tom Hunter became a billionaire without any engaging in any kind of capitalism and / or Thatcherism.

GIVE ME A BREAK.
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03/05/2009 03:49:24
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Scottish and Proud,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 06:09:12
The hypocrisy of Labour knows no bounds.
Curran is asking Maggie to apologise, would suit Labour better to apologise to Scotland for fifty years of negligect ,poverty ,ill health ,poor housing and worst social deprivastion in western world.

This all happened on Labour's watch.
for all you other unionist lovers that hate Maggie so much, let me say this, Brown is 10 times worse to Scotland than Maggie ever was and she was bad.
He was born here and that makes it worse.

Labour only ever apologise to each other rfor losing elections or for getting caught thievibg from the public purse!!!
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nabodican,

Rural Scotland 03/05/2009 06:42:41
"Margaret Curran" An insignificant labour politician who is in the fourth division while Maggie T is the division 1 leader.
The Poll tax was actually a very good idea which was badly implemented and then mauled by the media.
We saw what happened to Curran when she tried to stand for Westminster. She should go back to being a councillor - if she gets voted in, that is.
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calum,

03/05/2009 06:52:13
Margaret Curran, a political and intellectual lightweight if ever there was one.
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 03/05/2009 07:03:40
magaret thatcher,loved by the sane people of britian the women who broke the tinpot stasi union leaders who held britian and its population to ransom, what a leader respected world wide more -alls than most men,gave the people of britian the chance to own their own homes,curran what has she ever achieved? a self promoting trough feeder who has got rich as the poor have got poorer under new lybour.

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03/05/2009 07:32:17
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Marian,

03/05/2009 07:32:51
Due to a primeval fear of the Tories, the Scottish voters en masse may once again vote for New Labour candidates like Curran at the next UK Westminster election in a misguided attempt to gain protection from a UK Tory government but little realising all the Tories have to do is to win the south east of England to get back into UK government office irrespective of whether Scotland votes for New Labour or not.

If Scotland votes New Labour it will once again send down a bunch of New Labour's numpties who have no real interest on what happens in Scotland but are more concerned with what expenses and perks they can hold onto.

It is time that Scotland woke up and realised for the past 50 years Scotland has voted like sheep for New Labour yet got nothing in return.

Scotland's Labour MP's were especially impotent when Thatcher was in power and imposed the Poll Tax, decimated industries, etc.
In light of New Labours imminent political demise in the UK as a whole and the inevitable election of a very strong and commanding Tory government, Scotland must have a strong and patriotic voice in Westminster and the only way she will get this is with the election of more SNP MP's into Westminster.

Scotland electing 20 or more SNP MP's does not automatically mean Scotland's independence but what it will do is send a clear message to David Cameron if he treats Scotland with contempt, that it will not take a great deal more to break his UK union in half.

New Labour in opposition wouldn't send such an ultimatum to Cameron and to be honest they would just be an embarrassment to Scotland.
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FTH22inarow,

03/05/2009 07:32:52
21 Get a grip, where are you writing from,Carstairs? New Labour are just a continuation of Thatcher and her despicable/mentally deficient policies.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 03/05/2009 07:54:35
Given the continuing support from nationalists for Thatcher, I can only assume that most of you were in nappies when she was in power.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 08:09:08
The Lady has much to be sorry for, including:

The Scottish Constitutional Convention
The Scots Tory Party wipe-out
The Scottish Devolution Referendums
The Scotland Act, and
The Scottish Parliament
leading to a massive resurgence in Scottish Nationalism!
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 03/05/2009 08:12:28
#23 - good post Marion.
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RufusT-Firefly,

03/05/2009 08:37:42
Margaret Thatcher will go down in history as one of the world's greatest ever leaders.

She transformed Britain, pulling it out of the dark ages.

Margaret Curran certainly has a cheek.
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Boy Wonder,

03/05/2009 08:37:57
Don't get me started about Thatcher! Bliddy %4£$*?*($@ Woman!!!

And Labour has only emulated her!!!
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 03/05/2009 08:42:25
Typical Labour, still fighting the last war.
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Toast,

03/05/2009 08:59:34
Curran would be better worrying about the corrupt incompetant that is the the labour party.
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FTH22inarow,

03/05/2009 09:00:05
32 how is life in the 3rd World? Cant wait for the next tsunami and you lot all have your begging bowl out.
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thinking,

Scotland 03/05/2009 09:01:00
I have never understood the hostility of so many to the poll tax. It was brought in a year earlier in Scotland, not to test it out in Scotland, as so many seem to think, but because the rates were due to be re-assessed that year (re-assessment is always up) and it makes more economic sense (less cost to the taxpayer) to change things once, not twice.
As a country dweller, the change back to a community tax doubled our rates on a tiny, rented cottage as the community charge does not take into account how many earners are in a property..
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Road to the isles,

03/05/2009 09:08:03
The poll tax was introduced in Scotland because the Scots, particularly those in the east central belt, were kicking up sh:t about the hated rates system. If it had been better thought out and based on ability to pay rather than a flat rate it would probably have worked very well. I seem to recall that this 'newspaper, was leading some sort of campaign to have rates replaced with a poll tax - it soon changed its tune when the 'disadvantaged' egged on by Tommy Sheridan, took to the streets. What did we end up with? Council tax based on property values - just another form of rates.
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Phil C,

03/05/2009 09:08:58
No wonder Labour are so out of touch. They're still stuck in the 80s. Move on Thatcher's been and Cameron's coming!

Independence NOW!
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TWC,

03/05/2009 09:11:00
I'm not a thatcher fan but compared to nippy curran she is a Giant.
"0 years and Labour still haven't got an answer to the Council Tax or rates or whatever.
The Poll tax was not that bad, although it would have cost me a pretty penny
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www.r-o-a-r.org,

03/05/2009 09:31:50
Margaret Curran is a fool.

Glasgow never suffered especially under Thatcher - the whole UK was given a healthy dose of Thatcherism and I am an SNP voter!

Better blue than red but in the case of Scottish Labour - better dead than red!
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 03/05/2009 09:32:00
Curran is beyond parody. Typically thick variety of NuLab politician.
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HellAintABadPlaceToBe,

Lockerbie 03/05/2009 09:32:30
Speaks volumes of the current crop of "politicians" currently within the system.

This is yet more "playground politics".
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www.r-o-a-r.org,

Dundee 03/05/2009 09:34:47
Oh and Blears has FINALLY awoken to the fact that Labour are OUT coming the next election.

Everyone bar the blind Labour voting donkeys are sick to the pit of their stomach of BROWN AND HIS SLIPPERY OXYGEN-THIEVES spinning their lies and deceit and mis-management of the economy.

The Tories are on the way and thank god we have an SNP goernment in Scotland to take them on North of the Border!
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FTH22inarow,

03/05/2009 09:49:12
Scotland must vote SNP, we need an independence referendum, after that you could be a tory, labour or whatever but at least your Government would have the good of Scotland at heart, unlike the Westminster Government where we are seen as an expendable limb.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 03/05/2009 09:49:20
It's going to be interesting watching Iain Gray's dismay when his sleazy party are in opposition north and south of the border.

If he lasts that long......
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Andrew D,

Brisbane 03/05/2009 09:49:45
34. That is a *loathesome* thing to say.
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jdships,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 09:58:19
42 connaughtboy
"Curran is beyond parody. Typically thick variety of NuLab politician."

And a "champagne Socialist" to boot .
A "wanbee" who will end up a "neverbee"
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for a Labour and Tory Free Scotland 03/05/2009 10:32:25
Moan about Maggie Thatcher and Maggie Brown, but just make sure that neither of their b a s t a r d parties get back in power in Scotland.

England only has Hobson's Choice. We in Scotland at least has a party to vote for that has Scotland's interest at heart
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 03/05/2009 10:34:44
Would this be the same Margaret Curran who has lived in the East end of Glasgow all her life or is it another one that lives much closer to Eastwood?

I think we should be told!
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FTH22inarow,

03/05/2009 10:38:07
47 true I apologise
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Stephen_Gash,

Carlisle England 03/05/2009 10:47:34
When Blair, Brown, Reid have apologised for the Anglophobic apartheid they have introduced then perhaps Thatcher might think about apologising.
Tell me one law which selectively discriminated against Scots before devolution. Before you all start braying 'poll tax', it is in the archives of Hansard and the Scotsman that Scottish politicians begged for it to stave off a hike in Scottish rates.
So rather than being 'experimented' on the Scots actually caused the poll tax to be rushed in and messed it up for the rest of us. Just as Scots mess up everything.
Now look at the present situation, top-up fees, prescription charges, cancer drugs, cancer screening, social care for the elderly, job protection, etc etc.
Devolution has shown that fairness is not a Scottish characteristic, it is an English one.
If Scots actually any guts they would vote for independence instead of demanding apologies. But you don't have any guts. I picture the Scottish national persona as a tam o' shantered, tartaned busker with his palm outstretched for cash whistling 'Scotland the brave'.
Scotland has been a ball and chain around England's neck for 302 miserable years.
Please show some guts for once, so that we don't make it 303.
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 03/05/2009 10:54:41
Tragically many people end up suffering from dementia, but most have happy memories they would wish to share with people around them.

I wish I could forget the misery Thatchers policies brought to the whole of the UK in terms of a legacy that now even chameleon Cameron admits is a "broken society".

Never were the words of St Francis of Assisi to corruptly abused.

God willing, many of us will never forget her Tory party legacy.
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KWC,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 10:55:33
What a bunch of moaners. Maggie turned our country around -- in only 11 years. Anyone who really remembers what it was like in 1979 could only but admit that we were in much better shape when she left. Some of us (taxpayers) also believe the Poll Tax was the most accountable system we have ever had for local taxation.

Curran really does have some nerve, though. There has been 12 years of opportunity to 'mend' (if that's what she thinks) Maggie's influence. Instead Blair and that numpty Brown has stuffed us, our children and their children. Now that's worth apologising for.

A colleague at work once tried to argue that Maggie was the most hated PM ever. Not so I said. I liked her, he doesn't -- that's 50% by that small sample. We both hated Blair -- that 100%. This was before Brown. He has managed >100% as our children will hate him also.
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alanh,

ek 03/05/2009 11:00:54
"Curran said: "Margaret Thatcher should apologise to Glasgow for her policies that wreaked havoc on our city. The constituency I represent is still trying to recover from the destruction that ensued from her plans and political approach."

so is it all these years of a nu liebore govt doing nothing for her constituents or is it because the nu liebore party have simply followed the policies of Maggie since they came to power and forgetting all the empty rhetoric and promises of the feeble 50?
There must be an election in the offing or something
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Observer,,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 11:06:07
Very rarely I agree with you Liberal for Life but I do now. Never were words so abused than her faux sanctimonious statement when she took the keys to Number Ten. She was an evil witch who cared not a jot what misery she brought into people's lives for the sake of her political ideology. Dementia must be a blessing for her because I couldn't sleep at night if I had been as evil and wicked as she was. Then again I'm human and you have to question whether she was.
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Edward,

03/05/2009 11:07:31
Labour will be pushing the 'socialist values' arguement for all its worth in the run up to the general election. Ive noted this was mentioned in two seperate interviews this morning with Jack Straw and Ken Livingstone, who both mentioned the 'Socialist' beliefs when talking about the next election.
Labour really need to be reminded that they threw out Socialist values the minute they made Blair leader and subsequent Prime Minister. Blair loved Thatcher. Brown likewise has been on record a number of times of stating that he admired Thatcher, and she also admired him. Brown has had her for tea a couple of times.
So please, Labour just dont have Socialist Values as they are just Tories by another name!. Curran is only trying to use Scots hatred of Thatcher to try and stoke up support for Labour. Everyone need to be reminded that New Labour are not that different to the Tories and need to be reminded that Brown admires Thatcher!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 11:14:46
54 You know your comment personifies the complete ignorance which is so pervasive these days. Let's all despise Labour. Well yes, let's all despise Labour but that involves despising the Tories too. As Labour are Thatcher's direct heirs. What they did was just to continue her policies, oh they dressed it up and made it pretty, but it was just the same. The financialisation of our economy, the obsession with house prices, the greed is good and encouragement of financial pyramid schemes which could only ever topple at the last hurdle, were dreamt up by Maggie, and continued by her acolytes Blair and Brown. She is the one who invented selling off the family silver for a mess of pottage and living in never never land financially (she did it with Scottish oil revenues).

New Labour and the Tories aren't in competition for who can produce the worst PM. They both can.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 11:20:22
57 Precisely. They are the same party with different wrapping paper.
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Marian,

03/05/2009 11:22:22
Ref No.39 "Joe, Relugas Road"

Once again a New Labour supporter attempts to re-write history with yet again their 40 year old chestnut about the SNP letting in the Tories - they didn't.

When you read Jim Callaghan's memoirs, “Time and Chance”, you will see that the then Prime Minister noted:

“in his ( ie Michael Cox, Labour’s Chief Whip) view, the difficulty within the (Labour) Party, was much greater than any from the Scottish National Party, and the Whip’s judgement was that the government could not rely on the votes of Labour members from the north"

i.e. Labour MP's were prepared to vote down their own government, rather than support a Scottish Assembly.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 11:26:26
60 Quite frankly I don't really care what happened in 1979. That was then, this is now. We should be looking to the future and there is no future with either Labour or the Tories. They are both a busted flush.
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jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow 03/05/2009 11:37:15
Margaret Curran and her party are a disaster in Scotland. As for the 'dreaded' poll tax or community charge to give it its proper title, I wonder how many council tax payers nowadays would rather have the community charge instead?
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Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 11:39:18
"MSP orders Iron Lady to apologise"?? Sorry, who exactly does this hatchet-faced, lying harridan ex-cooncillor-turned-MSP, humiliated as a wannabe MP think she is to 'Order' anybody? Or is 'Order' just a figment of a lickspittle sub-editor's imagination to curry favour with the political partisanship of his masters?
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The west awake,

Argyll 03/05/2009 12:03:11
So Curran wants an apology from the Tories?

The people of Scotland did not want Thatcher, at the time they didn't want the SNP either. So they placed their trust and their country in the hands of Scottish Labour.
When England voted for the Tories in droves because they were sick of Labour, the Scots returned an unprecedented 50 Labour MPs.
That group immediatly called themselves the "fighting 50". I remember, I was there and waited for them to start the fight. I'M STILL WAITING!!
While Thatcher and her gang of brownshirts destroyed much of our country, the "fighting 50" DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Scotland deserves an apology alright, not from Thatcher (you can't blame the wolf for killing sheep), but from Labour. From that sorry bunch of spineless no-marks that came to be known by a more fitting name - "the feeble 50".

No more feeble 50s, when England votes for the Tories next time, lets have a real fighting 50.
You know who I mean.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 12:13:27
Curran is a posturing political fraud.

And whilst Thatcher was a witch, she was at least true to her own voters. However Blair and Brown shat on their own constituency from day one, a far far greater crime in my book. Its plain what the priorities of an incoming Labour govt *should* have been. Instead of which...

Poverty gap has not narrowed under Labour
* John Carvel, social affairs editor
* The Guardian, Thursday 3 April 2008

Britain grew richer during Tony Blair's decade in power, but for large sections of the population it did not become fairer, the government's chief statistician disclosed yesterday.

Karen Dunnell, head of the Office for National Statistics, said the income gap between high- and low-earners was not affected by the measures introduced while Gordon Brown was chancellor to raise the living standards of the poor.

Over the past 20 years national life expectancy increased and educational standards improved, but disadvantage persisted among minority ethnic groups, disabled people and the residents of deprived areas.

Dunnell's report on British society came a day after the statistics service gained independence from Treasury control.

She said that when Margaret Thatcher came to power in 1979 the most prosperous 10% of households earned three times the income of the least prosperous 10%. By the time Thatcher resigned in 1990 the top group was earning four times more.

The gap did not change during John Major's administration and remained the same under Blair.

Dunnell said: "Equality is recognised nationally and internationally as a key aspect of progress in society ... on average in the UK we are richer, but there is evidence that inequality in income has increased over the last two decades."

People living on their own and single parents were more likely to live in "poor quality environments", the report said.
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Holyrood Watcher,

03/05/2009 12:39:25
Poor Mags (Curran).

Once she was a minister and now she is nothing but a Labour attack dog. Whilst being an attack dog can get you places, look at Alex Neil, it seems all Curran will get as a reward is fighting Glasgow East at UK level next time then a place on the backbenches at Westminster and political obscurity.

What an embarrassment she has become.
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goldenayr,

Alba 03/05/2009 13:10:52
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Hopefully she won't represent anyone after the next election.
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greenhill,

03/05/2009 13:38:19
The people who should apologise from that the time were the many Scottish left wingers who were enemies of the West and friends of real tyranny.

Their mainspring broke with the collapse of the Soviet Communist Empire. Now we do not hear so much from these scumbags about "socialism" or how East Germany was such a great place, however they still hate freedom and now love to make excuses for Islamic terrorism.

The NUM was led by Communist vermin: have these people ever apologised for their political stance at the time. And what about all those schoolteachers, University lecturers, intellectuals and Labour party members who were totally Marxist and went out of their way to indoctrinate young minds. How many of them say sorry?

Shame on those leftie losers. I am so glad to have seen the end of the appalling political climate they created in Scotland.
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Western Gael,

03/05/2009 14:48:10
Every nation deserves the consequences of the electoral decision it makes. Scotland deserves Margaret Curran of Baillieston.
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smokey joe 1,

03/05/2009 15:09:34
Curran who has never lived or worked in the east end of Glasgow could also ask Brown to apologize for robbing Scotland's carers of £400 million.
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03/05/2009 15:35:17
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bluepict,

03/05/2009 15:40:03
Mrs.T, The modern day 'hammer o' the Scots'Frankly I'm not going to be rude to an elderly unwell lady but if I were to be, well, ye'll hauv tae use your imagination and fill in the blanks yersel'.

I may be many things, but a guinea pig 'aint one of them! Mrs.T is a fine example of English leadership imposed on Scotland whether they liked it or not, very democratic,I must say!
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CharIes LinskaiII,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 15:57:16
Thatcher might have-been an 'Iron-Lady', but only Labour's Iron-Man can turn this country's

'Welsh Dresser'

into a 'hot potato pie'!

When will Alex A-Salmon learn that you can't 'Put-a-Milkbottle' into an 'Armoured Carrier' without breaking your omelettes?
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03/05/2009 16:00:26
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03/05/2009 16:07:02
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thinking,

Scotland 03/05/2009 17:44:03
#47 Andrew D,Brisbane
It seems that the poll tax wasn't even Maggie's idea. It was pressed on her by Scottish Office ministers in a panic over domestic rates.
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Geomac 1,

Scotland 03/05/2009 17:52:14
I'm surprised to hear that this MSP managed to out more than two words together and even then all she could do was launch a personal attack - shame on you Curran.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 18:33:52
Is it really only 6 weeks ago since this non-partisan comic showcased the following poll findings ? "Labour is back!" ... LMFAO !!!!

Labour boosted by poll results
Published Date: 16 March 2009
LABOUR yesterday hailed a poll which shows the party has overtaken the SNP in Holyrood voting intentions.
It comes amid falling support for an independence referendum. A YouGov survey found the SNP remains ahead on the constituency vote with 35 per cent, compared with Labour's 34 per cent. But on the regional vote Labour is on 32 per cent and the SNP on 30 per cent.

This would give Labour 49 seats – up three, while the SNP would drop to 44 – down three.

"Labour is back under the leadership of Iain Gray," said Labour MSP Duncan McNeil.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 18:39:28
As much as I dislike Thatcher and her politics, in her prime she would have had 6 Currans for breakfast and spat out what remained into the Downing Street gutter.
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Brodric,

03/05/2009 21:13:30
Right, now I'm really annoyed. Don't start me off on another tirade.

What is this absolute guff about the 'mess the labour party has got us into'. This mess was started by Thatcher herself when she brought monetarist policies to this country. Not to say that labour is blameless, I am not an nitwit. But an apology from THAT WOMAN will never be accepted by some people in Scotland. NEVER.
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Stephen_Gash,

Carlisle England 03/05/2009 21:19:07
I'm still waiting from #52. Tell me one law, pre-devolution that selectively discriminated against the Scots and Scotland.
While you're thinking about it, assuming there was no oil (which as you keep telling us is Scotland's), tell me who would be paying for Scotland's social services and socialist policies? Your whisky industry?
If you think that, you'd better stop drinking it.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 03/05/2009 21:24:29
83 You can wait for a month of sundays and no one will answer you as you are an ignorant buffoon who's posted at 52 consisted entirely of mince. And cold congealed mince at that. If you wish to enter a civilised discussuin that is not the way to go about it.

82 YES. Thank God there is someone else who understands that. It does my head in people claiming it was Brown alone who brought us to the pass. It dates back to her and only her.
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Thistledhu,

03/05/2009 23:01:05
Yes she has a lot to apoligise for she enterd into a class war
who else sought this war ?

The unions!!!

yes she deprived schools and hospitals of resources and forced poll tax on a country that she had no political mandate in

But also it was made oh so easy for her to close factorys by unions who set out to make factorys unviable.

in the bathgate plant BMC workers were forbidden by the union from produceing more that 3 chasis per night( on the night shift that is) any who worked to produce more faced the threat of expulsion from the union. as it was a closed shop they would then be dismissed.

when the plant closed the union members became unemployed the shop stewards? yep you guesed it they became labour party councilers with all the nice payments expenses etc that goes cap in hand while those
who they claimed to be fighting the good fight for went without.

Socialism at its best!!!!
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Stephen_Gash,

Carlisle England 04/05/2009 00:10:24
#84 Observer
In typical fashion you give out abuse instead of an answer, because you have no answer, just like the Scots have no guts.
Please go. You have the chance to bring in SNP MEPs, please do it. I don't expect it will stop the interminable whining, but at least, with any luck we won't have to endure it in the media in an independent England.
Better still why not whine in Gaelic, you know, Scotland's national language?
Go on vote SNP then insist Salmond brings forward the independence referendum and do us all a favour.

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Stephen_Gash,

Carlisle England 04/05/2009 00:17:51
Actually being accused of writing "cold congealed mince" by a Scot beggars belief.
You say the English go on about 1966. How about telling us who discovered penicillin, who invented the TV, who invented the telephone?
Like I say, Thatcher can apologise when Blair, Brown and the rest of the Scottish cabal have apologised for treating our young women as 3rd class citizens for cervical cancer screening - for a start.
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Dark Lochnagar,

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com 04/05/2009 01:16:41
How dare Curran, a jumped up cooncillor, a harridan of the first degree, criticise someone like Thatcher. Love her or loathe her she did what she thought was right for her electorate and the Labour party has been doing the same ever since, except they have brought us financial ruin! I'll tell you what I think of Curran, I would rather be married to Hazel Blears!
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Thistledhu,

04/05/2009 20:16:08
Stephen_Gash please dont bite the hand that feeds you id prefer if you just thanked us scots for keeping your pathetic excuse for a country afloat for so many years.
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puskas,

East kilbride 04/05/2009 20:45:19
No14...

Your quote: On Brown.

He's not a man that hides.

Only behind spin doctors and filthy e.mails. Spun from no10.

Fact..
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Gorach,

Dornie 05/05/2009 23:50:04
It will be a sad day for England when Scotland leaves the union.
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Dougie - Edinburgh,

19/05/2009 21:11:11
The policies of Margaret Curran's own party have been even more destructive than Thatcherism.

 

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