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Published Date: 11 February 2007
TORY leader David Cameron smoked cannabis while a pupil at Eton, it emerged last night.
Cameron, then 15, was one of a number of students who were punished after they were caught using the drug, according to newspaper reports confirmed off the record by a Tory source.

Cameron was "gated" - confined to the school grounds - for two weeks after admitting smoking cannabis but was not suspended, according to the reports. Other pupils were expelled.

Since his campaign for the Tory leadership in 2005, Cameron has refused to say whether he has ever used illicit substances, insisting he had the right to a private life before politics.

The revelations will embarrass Cameron and could lead to further tough questions, but last night the party rallied round him. Lord Tebbit said an error in his youth should not bar him from high office but added it was important for Cameron to come clean about his drug use.

Last night a Conservative Party spokesman said: "This happened almost 25 years ago and David has always maintained that politicians have a right to a private life before they come into politics."

The revelation about Cameron's previous cannabis use is contained in a book entitled Cameron: The Rise Of The New Conservative. According to authors Francis Elliott and James Hanning, seven boys were expelled from Eton in 1982 after staff discovered that pupils were smoking and dealing in cannabis.

Cameron was hauled in to see headmaster Eric Anderson after another pupil named him, and was made to confess to smoking the drug. Because he had only smoked cannabis and not traded in it, he was not expelled like the other boys.

Instead, he was fined, gated and given the school's traditional punishment of a "Georgic" - copying out hundreds of lines of Latin poetry, according to the book.

Anderson, who refused to discuss Cameron, told the authors: "We would have said 'Let's get the ring leaders', and if there were others involved, we would have scared them off from doing it again." The scandal was reported in several national newspapers at the time, but none named Cameron.

The book says the police oversaw an investigation by the school to root out all drug users. "The initial culprits were called upon to reveal to whom they had sold drugs, an offence that ensured automatic expulsion," it says. "On the first day, seven were summarily thrown out and the investigation began to snowball."

Drugs squad police searched pupils' rooms for evidence of cannabis, which was thought to have been smoked in parties where groups of around 10 boys listened to reggae records.

One of the pupils who was forced to leave said: "A couple of guys were going to Slough to buy the stuff. We were heavily leaned on to give names. There were a lot of people involved."

Tebbit said the new revelations would not do Cameron much good with Tory activists, but should not damage his career at the top of politics.

"I think it matters, but not in the sense that because when somebody was 18 or 20 they did something that was pretty damn stupid, that it disqualifies them from holding high office in their 40s when hopefully they have come to their senses.

"I think we have to take a reasoned view about these things, and the question now is whether or not he understands it is a highly dangerous drug and should be treated as such."

Tebbit urged Cameron to come clean about his drug use, in order to put the story behind him.

"I would have advised him to clear it up early on, and my advice to him now would be 'Get it out of the way, get it over with and it will be a seven-day wonder. If you don't, people will keep turning up with another expose'."

Shadow environment secretary Peter Ainsworth - who has previously admitted smoking cannabis as a youngster - said: "What happened 20 years ago at school seems to me to have no bearing whatsoever on what is happening today.

"I don't think it makes any difference at all. David has always said very clearly that what people do in their private life before they go into politics is of no concern to people once they are in politics.

"People have a right to a private life. We are talking about a schoolboy here, 20 years ago. I don't see why it is a matter of public interest at all."

Last month, Cameron said he would consider legalising cannabis for medicinal use if he wins power, but ruled out decriminalising it for recreational use.

Talking on his website, he said: "If it could be proved there was a real medicinal benefit I would be relaxed by that. My decision would be to license it if we can prove the medicinal benefits.

"If you decriminalise, you increase the availability and make it more difficult for parents who are trying to keep their children away from drugs."

News that he used cannabis in the past may lay Cameron open to attack by his probable rival in the next General Election, Chancellor Gordon Brown, who has made it clear that he has never used illegal drugs.

Within minutes of the news breaking, a discussion had begun on the "open blog" section of Cameron's website, www.webcameron.org.uk over whether it would affect his popularity.

One contributor, calling himself Donnie, wrote: "Personally I don't have a problem with this, as long as he is not hypocritical about people who use cannabis - I noted in his video he would only consider making it legal for medical reasons. The trouble is these people are all so two-faced, it's always a case of do as I say, not as I do."

Another, using the nickname kozmicstu, said: "I think MPs are definitely entitled to a past."

Cameron's Eton days come back to haunt him

IT WAS a story waiting to be written since David Cameron became party leader, with his enemies becoming increasingly frustrated at their inability to land a glove on this Teflon Tory.

The only real surprise is that the tale of drug-taking has emerged from his school days and not his years in the world of PR. But the tale provides the first evidence of a politician with a genuine chance of becoming prime minister breaking the law in this way.

The public response will tell us much about the development of the nation's attitudes over several generations. For David Cameron this morning, however, all that matters is how this troublesome development affects his own career prospects. Previously he has been noncommittal over drug taking, saying only that he had not taken Class A drugs as an MP.

The sanguine response of his aides to the new revelations suggests they were waiting for the full truth to emerge one day. They will now hope that the Tory grassroots will forgive him this youthful indiscretion - and that he may be able to make political capital out of it. So, expect a heart-to-heart television interview on how his experiences have shaped his approach to the crucial issue of drugs in society.

The downside is that this is the start of the Cameron Drug Story, not the end. Rival politicians last night vowed to let this remain a personal issue - but the temptation to make capital may prove too great as the election looms.

The full article contains 1243 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 00:25:27

Ha Ha :)

2

Scaramouche,

11/02/2007 00:32:45

Of course it's going to be an "issue". If it's a member of your own party, it's a minor indiscretion in one's youth. But if it's the other party's member, he was obviously a bad person from the beginning.

And if the person is not a politician, he should be jailed for possession and/or intent to supply!

Two-faced?? And a few more besides!

3

Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 00:53:31

Gotta be a bit difficult if he (ever) becomes PM - passing laws that would punish people for something he got away with. Double standards?

4

www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 00:54:42

Mind you.....looking at that pic......i could understand why anyone would take drugs:)

5

Richard,

west lothian 11/02/2007 01:05:51

Bill, Dunblane

"Gotta be a bit difficult if he (ever) becomes PM - passing laws that would punish people for something he got away with. Double standards?"....................

Good argument for changing the draconian drug laws especially class C.

6

Home Rule for Pertyck,

Glasgow, near Pertyck 11/02/2007 01:07:26

"Tory's Rally?" What Tory possessor of a rally would that be then? Annabel, perhaps?

7

yorkshireman,

glasgow 11/02/2007 01:11:24

Pretty much a non story. It happened so long ago, who would be interested
#4 bill I don’t follow your logic. Because if you were correct the would never have been any laws past with regard to, for example
1. Drink Driving
2. Speeding
And probably prostitution, yet another case of someone attempting to play the man and not the ball

8

Androsthenes,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 01:53:57

Personally I'd be a bit suspicious of someone who HADN'T had a shot at dope.
Who wants to be led by a cosseted anally retentive mummy's boy?
Anymore "revelations" like this and I might break a lifetime's habit and vote Tory!

9

Steve Roberts,

11/02/2007 01:58:38

Does anybody really care what David Cameon did at school? Does it affect his ability to do his job?

10

lisa,

perth 11/02/2007 01:59:44

So Gordon says he never took drugs, and he probably didn't. His aides are probably putting it about that he doesn't even use tap water to make his decaf.

Am I alone in thinking that the more things you experience the more rounded your judgement is likely to be.

Not guaranteed, but if you have lived some kind of sheltered life like our Gordon, how do you make value judgements which will affect real people.

How does he feel able to represent those who will be having the odd splif on the streets of Raith tonight.

11

Ginster's Pastie,

11/02/2007 02:10:34

All of the lavatories in Westminster were swabbed for traces of illicit drugs some years ago and only one had NO trace of cocaine in it.

We're being led by a horde of alcoholics and druggies.

Noone cares about some douchebag puffing at school 20 years ago.

12

S.Macleod,

In bed. 11/02/2007 02:18:29

#11, "but if you have lived some kind of sheltered life like our Gordon"

You might be surprised just how "unsheltered" a life "our Gordon" realy has lived, I was when I found out and that's comming from someone who most definately has not led a sheltered life!

hehehe.

13

Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 02:20:33

8 - Yorkie

Agreed, by and large.

I was only pointing out the hypocrisy.

How can you pass laws to convict people of a 'crime' that you yourself committed? (and I take your other examples fully into account)

14

Statsman,

11/02/2007 03:10:46

This will simply make him more electable to the ordinary voter.

It's a bit ironic that the journalists, that like the weed themseleves, seem get so wound up about this.

I reckon Dave will get more votes than he loses out of this. People don't really care about who did drugs anymore. This isn't 1946.

15

Mev Brown,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 03:34:30

Come on people - even if its a quiet news day, surely there's something more interesting than this?

16

Scottish Unionist,

11/02/2007 04:05:03

Are there any individuals who from their early teens decide I better not do this in case I become leader of a political party? We would have a parliament full of Anne Widdicombe's and Gordon Brown's if they did!

Of course you can be a lawmaker and a lawbreaker, but this event allegedly occured decades ago.

Anyway, does anybody really care? Scores of politicians have had the odd toke - ex-Chancellor Norman Lamont, Mo Molam and Yvette Cooper for instance.

Maybe one good thing that could come out of this is that a sensible debate about the legalisation of cannabis can occur. Conservative MP Peter Lilley wrote a good piece about legalising the substance a few years ago.

17

Scottish Unionist,

11/02/2007 04:41:10

Of course my last comment should read in the second paragraph - you can't be a lawmaker and lawbreaker!!! Sorry.

18

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19

Guga,

Rockall 11/02/2007 04:59:59

I blame global warming.

20

iain,

edinburgh 11/02/2007 05:05:53

who hasnt ?

21

jim lad,

the capital 11/02/2007 06:55:02

#3 scaramoustache
You cant believe he is two faced,he wouldn't wear that one if he was.

22

bill mccall,

sydney australia 11/02/2007 07:30:16

I am curious; what IS this "rally" the Tories posess?

I had a rally once, it was a bicycle. It was called by my friends, Bill's "Rally"

Do the Tory party have a Rally too? But why should it be "around" Cameron?

Oh, I know, the reporter just had one too many in celebration of Scotland's win over an absent Wales yesterday and was seduced by Apostrophe Man! Thank you for the clarification

23

bill mccall,

sydney australia 11/02/2007 07:36:25

Oh, and another thing. In spite of being a politician, whom absolutely everyone knows are a duplicitous lot at the best of times, Mr Cameron cannot be accused of having two faces. If he did, why on earth would he allow his PR people to print the one at the head of this article?
In Australia we have two expressions
1. A head like a robber's dog
2. A head like a beaten favourite

Maybe a competition to see what readers think of this one?

Or might it be that this is a head that resembles a hat full of a*se holes

24

ddmc,

11/02/2007 07:43:44

Maybe Dave's the man to bring some sanity to the weed - Legalise & Regulate - billions to be made in taxes, stop people having to goto dealers & be offered harder drugs. And studies have shown in Holland that soft drug use actually falls within teenagers as the element of exitement & danger is no longer there !
Or will the hang em & flog em brigade get him (&me) before we can have a proper debate. Even senior police are coming round to the argument. Of course the US is dead against legaliseing, how else would the DEA make those 700,000 MJ convicts be shown the error of their ways. Farmers were forced to grow hemp in G Washingtons days, hemp oil & methanol makes a fuel with less pollution than oil based fuels (Henry T Ford built a car made from hemp & run on hemp fuel in the 1920's). Hemp paper is eco friendly, so no more tree chopping & bleaching req'd, cannabis DOES have medicinal qualities (hemp oil contains omega 3,6 & 9), why else would big pharma be synthesising THC based drugs, of course none of these giant industries had anything to go with outlawing hemp in the 1930's in the US, which then pressurised other western govt's to do the same.
Free the weed & Vapourise (needs to come with a health warning as it can highten pychosis in some people)

25

albanman,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 07:58:34

Bit of a non-news item in my opinion. Smoking dope is hardly a major crime; there are far worse reprehensible acts he could have done.

Thankfully, this isn't the USA where such a matter could become a major issue due to the general self-righteousness of some folk.

26

Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 08:04:14

He looks like he has just ran out of Rizlas.

27

Ubi,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 08:07:51

And this is the top news story ?

28

Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 08:18:36

In the end it is all about political credibility and one of the main planks of Tory philosophy is strong Law and Order! Like so many politicians, Cameron is just another hypocrite! As a teenager, he was caught using cannabis, and no doubt he would have continued to pontificate about drugs use to the voters, whilst maintaining his own personal secret! Yes, there are probably thousands, indeed tens of thousands of individuals who have dabbled in cannabis but none of them lead a major political party, or could become Prime Minister! Here in Scotland, the indigenous Tory leader has made much of the controlled drugs issue in the Scottish Parliament and after this revelation must now feel as if the rug has been pulled from under her! It is serious for Cameron, especially when someone like Lord Tebbitt weighs in to try and save Party embarrassment! Lachie Todd

29

Big Drew Peacock,

11/02/2007 08:28:43

So he smoked a funny fag when he was a wean?

WTF?

30

Big Drew Peacock,

11/02/2007 08:29:32

oh oh oh

gordon brown farted in the bath when he was 14.

31

AJR,

Glasgow 11/02/2007 08:38:25

Scotsman - Wake up and smell the coffee:- thank goodness he is human. He probably kept his dinner money to spend on sweets - which is a shame because If P.M post dosn't happen he cant be the Chancellor- Scotsman " Get a life" and report some real political news : For instance :

Scandal over ‘bird flu’ imports
The government allowed Bernard Matthews to import turkey from Hungary despite suspicions the country was the source of the British outbreak

Bird flu doctors could be given military guards

Focus: It's not so Bootiful

(Sunday Times)

32

BillyB,

11/02/2007 08:43:19

Bang on AJS#21

And you are right, www.youscotland.com , just goen live this morning is an alogether bigger, better story.

The Sunday Herald has it all at
http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.1185...

I'sd uurge others to take a look, register. They sound like they'd even make dope smokers welcome.... there shoud be a law against them, indeed new labour is probably in the process of inventing one. So we'd better all sign up fast

Best wishes

33

ochone ochone,

11/02/2007 09:52:28

Pretty sure the bicycles were 'Raleigh' but hey, who really cares? As for past 'law-breakers' (at 15 EVERYONE with any balls is a lawbreaker) being able to change/impose laws - hm I wager there are damn few past MPs of any political colour or top Polis for that matter who are entirely sainted.

34

Pilrig,

Livingston 11/02/2007 09:55:58

Far out, maaaannnn........

35

Keir Hardie,

Inverness 11/02/2007 10:00:56

Has someone slipped me some drugs, or is Cameron purple and yellow in that photo?

36

heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 10:11:32

David Cameron has a pus like a mile of bad road in that photo.
Quick, someone away and slip a joint into his pint.

37

martin , surrey,

Godalming, Surrey. 11/02/2007 10:19:18

So what ? it was in 1982, when he was at school and was punished at the time.
Perhaps a story could be run on Gordon Brown being caned for smoking behind the bike shed in 1970.
Get real, are there not more inportant things to be considering, like the naming this morning of the latest British soldier killed in Iraq., an unholy mess of politicians making if ever there was one.

38

Scaramouche,

11/02/2007 10:20:53

#24. Jim Lass. Have you considered that might be the best one he has in his face off/on collection??

And for the record, I believe ALL politicians are at least two-faced!

They're worse than the electorate they're supposed to represent, bacause they try to come across as people who have never put a foot wrong in their lives. Mr or Ms Innocent! They continually lie because they think that's the way to do it. I mean look at Lloyd George. Apparently he was quite the womaniser!

Frankly I don't care if a politician has lied, cheated, stolen, toked or shot up; as long as 1) it isn't a capital crime or 2) they're at least honest and upfront enough to tell us, so that the feckin media can't find unexpected skeletons still lying about in the cupboards! Nor do I care about what politicians family have done as long as it's not a capital crime being covered up.

I just wanna know, can the person do the job and will they do it honestly? Can I trust them? And it's probably best if they don't espouse the right-wing policies of Tory or New Labour or the wooly Libdems!

39

Torchwood,

Aberdeen 11/02/2007 10:36:40

How many of you that are brushing this aside have known people who have started on cannabis and ended up going on the harder stuff?

I know of three people that this happened and devastated their families.

Ca-moron was dam lucky not to have been kicked out of Eton......"Wasn't me guv!"

He is not fit to be in Parliament let alone run his party or be considered as a future PM

40

Utter Shambles,

11/02/2007 10:40:43

Give him his due, at least it appears he isn't denying it, unlike the sanitised clones in power at present, who try and present a 'squeaky clean' image, and are properly the most corrupt government the UK's had in my lifetime. Also maybe this could result in an informed public debate about cannabis, and why we allow much more harmful drugs like alcohol to be sold legally.

41

jim lad,

sex change clinic 11/02/2007 10:57:17

#42 Touche.

42

Toast,

11/02/2007 10:57:24

God, the lengths politicians will go to to appear cool and interesting,who gives a hoot,in this age it is the weirdo that hasn't smoked dope,as for Gordon ,he probably couldn't find any weed grown in England to support his "british" credentuals,christ ,it might even have made him slightly interesting

43

Swilly Tisher,

Loch Maree 11/02/2007 11:01:28

What next ? Annabel Goldie sucking pandrops during biology lessons? Listen , they harp on about cannabis to the point where I'm almost tempted to try it out for myself. Remember , alcohol is the REAL menace in our society. Better now, David , to rid the closet of any other skeletons before the New Labour stormtroopers get on to the case.

44

Cheryl here,

Scotland 11/02/2007 11:05:32

Didn't Queen Victoria used to take a little bit of cannabis for her menstrual difficulties? Hmmm........shame, shame, I guess ...according to this bunch of hypocrites.

Anyway, should we all be perscuted for what we do in our youth? According to this standard, most of our population would be kicked into a deep pit and not allowed to crawl out.

45

Unbeliever,

11/02/2007 11:10:05

Question.
If he had been convicted of the offence, would he be allowedto be pm?

46

weeshooie,

Livingston 11/02/2007 11:14:35

What a total waste of news print!!!!!
The writer was probably high when he decided this was newsworthy

47

Chikderic,

Inverness 11/02/2007 11:18:02

If a man is found looking at a few pictures classisfied as child pornography he can be severely punished. This is despite the fact that he has actually done no harm to anyone directly. The argument is that harm was done by someone taking the pictures in the first place, anticipating demand for them. If this argument is valid, then vacuous Cameron is guilty of fuelling the drugs trade, with all the crimes, including murders, involved in it.

But even worse than this support for the drugs trade is the fact that Cameron is A WAR CRIMINAL, as he voted for and still supports the illegal war in Iraq

48

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 11/02/2007 11:38:58

This is non news. What we need is some true news where you can find proper news reports about serious issues which affect us all.Not affiliated to any political party and non judgemental.

49

MadMax,

11/02/2007 11:47:49

If you ask all MPs how many of them drank alcohol before they were 18 I wonder what % did not try it.

My guess is very few.

50

Angus Lindsay,

Shenzhen, China 11/02/2007 11:48:50

"Tory's rally round drug row Cameron"

What kind of crap grammar is that? Sack the sub-editor responsible, first for the careless stupid headline and second, for a complete non-story. It's about as shockingly informative as "barmaid serves beer".

51

heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 11:58:50

For a wee minute, this article almost made David Cameron a tiny bit more colourful and any passing hoodie may have sympathised if they cared or could read.
This happened circa 1982 so I rather think the THC has left Mr Cameron's body by now.

I can't believe I've just stood up for a Tory..am off to shovel the snow with a teaspoon for punishment..

52

Peter S,

Fife 11/02/2007 12:01:52

I cannot, for the life in me, see why this "news" found its way into the paper at all let alone on the front page.
It's 20 years out of date, without any relevance whatsoever, and of absolutely no interest at all.
So why do it?
Isn't there anything else more newsworthy going on in Scotland at the moment?
And in any case, if this is all you can drag up for this potential "leader" then he's a bit below par in the personality class don't you think?
He should have been nabbed for more than pot if he wanted to get a reputation as a firebrand leader of the pack.
Pathetic is the word I would use here.

53

Mick Leonard,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 12:04:49

The plural of "Tory" is "Tories". A plural is never formed using an apostrophe. I learned both of these things in primary school, but the illiterates at Scotland On Sunday apparently didn't. If they can't even get the spelling right in their main headline, can there be much of value in the rest of the paper? I doubt it.

54

Repton,

edinburgh 11/02/2007 12:07:02

They all smoke pot at Eton,just asl Harry.

55

think,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 12:11:14

Please! are there not more important things to worry about including the sorry state that Tony Blair and his cronies have got this country in.
Lets face it there are not many adults. today that have not done something in their youth that they regret.
He smoked a little dope when he was 15year old for gods sake get real.
Look Nearer to home at HOLYROOD and see the
hypocritical bunch down there that is what the media in Scotland should be concentrating on.
Not something that happened 30years ago.

I think that the media should be asking a lot more questions about the terrible case brought to light this week about the case of of the Couple Kimberley Clark and Samuel Duncan who systamatically abused their disabled daughter
I Know people will say that is a different matter.
but we have had a few similar cases in Scotland and we have the charade of politicions have enquiries and then not learning or acting on them .In my opinion there are far more important issues around at the moment of wether a 15yearold boy, because dont forget that is what he was smoked a bit of dope

56

www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 12:11:30

After a nap and a cycle to the shops, i think the real reason behind this story is more calculated........work it out, it makes him look more a man of the people...........smoke and mirrors :)

57

WI in GA,

11/02/2007 12:13:02

So he smoked pot when he was 15???? *gasp* *roll eyes* The next Watergate scandal I'm sure. No REAL news this week in Scotland then?

58

Sanny,

Portugal until the election 11/02/2007 12:14:01

The phrase “Let he who is without stain cast the first stone” comes to mind. As I first went to School in the 30’s ‘pot’ was not a problem, but I did go ‘scrumping’and got tanned for it; does that make me a career criminal? We have all done things in our youth that we’d rather forget.

As for Brown? I read a his biography and for a Socialist he had some very strange girlfriends (plural). Indeed he comes across as a male chauvinist pig in his youth and perhaps later.

Cameron was educated at Eton! That was his parents choice. Brown went to Oxbridge that was HIS choice.

I’m not a supporter of Cameron, not sure I like the man nonetheless he is entitled to fair treatment. If we cannot treat all people fairly then what kind of Scotland are we trying to create?

59

Paul Voltaire,

www.paulvoltaire.spaces.live.com 11/02/2007 12:35:44

Unlike Bill Clinton, Cameron inhaled.
The horror!

60

jkr,

Lochwinnoch 11/02/2007 12:37:28

What about all the other laws passed in parliament that are broken every day by MPs and MSPs and practically everyone else?

I am of course referring to speed limits on the roads
and numerous other traffic laws on the statute book.

61

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 11/02/2007 12:39:40

let us judge him on his leadership qualities and don't make a big out cry of misdemeanours of his youth. There are hundreds of 14 year olds smoking everyday, yes they are breaking the law. Having never smoked cannibas does it have a worse affect than smoking tobacco. So do we put a future leader of the Labour or Liberal party under the cosh and report him her for breaking the law at 14 for smoking or having a glass of shandy. Well we all know how far Mr Brown has gone with his stealth taxes and the burden he has put on the tax payer I would hope we have a better deal from the ex pot smoking Tory.

62

MI,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 12:42:55

I was surprised to see the final paragraph in Brian
Brady's article.

Yes rival politicians may wish to make political capital but dare they given the well known, in
political circles, but not widely known earlier serious indiscretions by Gordon Brown, John Read and Ming Campbell ?

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kameroon,

lanarkshire 11/02/2007 12:50:06

The UK has hundreds of thousands of pot smokers and it,s more than likely that it,s in the millions and if they all started to vote for "cannibis Cameron" because he smoked a little weed when he was a laddie then i,m sure G.Brown and all the other hypocrites would be walking around at canvassing time with big joints hanging out their mouths,saying heh man vote for us we,re cool and we,re going to legalize pot.

65

Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 12:56:58

If the majority of these comments reflect public opinion they'll all be coming out with soft drug stories from their past. Wee Joke McConman will be reminiscing about his Pritt Stick sniffing days. Alex Salmond will be regaling us about the time he slipped magic mushrooms into his Grannies broth.

Aah happy days!

66

think,

edinburgh 11/02/2007 12:57:53

I am still outraged at the fuss about cameron and dope.
When you think the great and the good of this current government in westminster had time in there so called busy schedules to invite Shipla shetty
to No10 give her signed photos of himself.Jack Straw leader of the house posing for photos like a star struck teenager. Please someone explain to me what that was all about every one is treating her like Mother Theresa.
I dont agree with how she was treated in the house but lets face it she not a daft wee girl she went in to further her career in Britain

67

Bonnie Laddie,

11/02/2007 12:59:58

I’m Shocked!

68

murdo,

Aberdeen 11/02/2007 13:01:03

So what !

69

Chikderic,

Inverness 11/02/2007 13:05:57

#56, 57 Michael Rigby. If people like Cameron had not used illegal drugs, there would be no criminal drug gangs and the Taleban would find much of their income cut off.

70

Saltire,

Thailand 11/02/2007 13:09:50

I think the biggest offence is going to Eton. Compared with that smoking cannabis is small fry

71

KWC,

Liberton, Edinburgh 11/02/2007 13:10:01

Double standards? Like having a PM or Foreign Secretary who were in CND then decided to buy a Trident replacement.

We all did silly things in our young days. When I saw the Music Lovers I used to think Glenda Jackson had some charm and appeal. Oh, and I voted SNP once.

Come in #76 -- you're obviously on drugs.

72

Artist,

Glasgow 11/02/2007 13:10:07

Boze is far worse; so is war and uasual crupt pratice of political relities. So Brainwshed wake up ur slaves anyway!

73

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 13:11:24

Cool !

The man is the sooo going to be the next prime minister and hopfully save us from our own MSP's.

The Scottish Parliment should be consigned to history it will certainly be remembered as a vary bad idea, a breeding shop for mediocraty, and/or just a bad joke .... if we can't sort these clowns out.

74

drake's drum,

North Britain 11/02/2007 13:19:04

Does this 'Scottwebb' guy have a life? He's at the top of every comment board on the paper, every day. Maybe he works at the Scotsman?

75

Bonnie Laddie,

11/02/2007 13:20:51

Anybody fancy a wee spliff?

76

Neil,

(% Growth Party 11/02/2007 13:25:52

Some years ago the LibDem conference voted, against the leadership's wish, that a Royal Commission should be set up to look into the possibility of slightly relaxing the laws on cannabis.

I remember the BBC interviewing Michael Howard & then Jack Straw for their comments. Moward said it was grossly irresponsible to even talk about talking about any sort of reform, ever, because that would just encourage criminals. Straw then said that his views of the LibDems were not quite as moderate as that.

I have since been expelled from the party but on that occasion I was proud they as a whole were willing to stand up. The sheer hypocrisy of this & the reaction from people of all parties who shared in the responsibility for sending people to jail is the real failing here.

77

Micjonger,

11/02/2007 13:28:52

The way in which David Cameron has reacted to this news (with honesty & dignity) has probably earned the Conservatives thousands more votes, including my own, which was wavering between New Labour and SNP.

78

The Guzz,

Fife 11/02/2007 13:30:45

It is unbelievable that this non event has found column space in the 'Hootsmon.' Where is the real news hidden? Get a life. There are a huge number of the populace who have tried a wee toke and haven't been caught and a surprising number of them hypocritically castigate those who have been 'found out' for doing so. Worse still are those who have never used cannabis who preach that it leads to harder drugs. Yes some do graduate to harder drugs, but this is mainly due to peer pressure from their social circle and unscrupulous dealers who are of course only interested in the money to be made from other people’s misery. There will always be those who have serious medical reactions to illegal drugs that could cause a whole range of medical problems and even death, but others experience similar from prescribed medicine and individual allergies. Nut allergy for one. I am not aware of cannabis generally causing people to be aggressive and feel invincible, then pour out of pubs and clubs to fight in the streets of our towns and cities. I am aware that alcohol does cause people to react like that. Comparing like for like I think we are going too far against cannabis and not far enough against alcohol. To set the record straight, I would not put up a case in defence of any of the harder drugs. I have not personally heard of anyone dying from the effects of cannabis in the same way as I have with any of the class A drugs OR alcohol. Cost-wise alone alcohol and hard drugs are a huge drain on the NHS and so the tax payer. Any A&E can confirm that alcohol related injuries take up most of their time and money and these people are the most likely to abuse medical staff. I personally would decriminalise it and set up a system where the use of cannabis can be properly regulated and taxed. Stop police from wasting their time and our money by chasing the minnows and free them to go after the big fish; real drug dealers and suppliers.

79

Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 13:31:04

79 - Artist

You're correct - it can affect the brain and cause difficulties, especially in communication.

80

kameroon,

lanarkshire 11/02/2007 13:39:57

In holland you can get a mild weed on prescription,you just take your precription to the chemist, hand it over and they give you a small plastic box full of weed.It has a sticker on it with your name and address just like any other prescribed drug.

81

Bonnie Laddie,

11/02/2007 13:44:13

In Holland you can get Space Cakes !

82

Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 13:53:19

#89 - Do they have nuts in them?

83

brownbob,

Detroit...Michigan 11/02/2007 14:00:02

Who is kidding who..everybody smoked cannabis when Cameron was a schoolboy except me

84

Scaramouche,

11/02/2007 14:01:28

#91. No ........ the nuts are all here!!

85

Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 14:08:00

I hope I'm not allergic then.

86

Finnking,

Cloud 9, man 11/02/2007 14:26:59

As 45 year old from Porty, Edin., may I ask: When was cannibis criminalised? The police turned a blind eye, as they do in Holland when you are outside. Wouldn't it have been great if Cameron just came out and explained the truth about the stupid and racist beginnings of that law. A law that must be the dumbest and most impossible to enforce.

Also: to the person above who seems to think that Taleban grew drugs. Yes and no but mostly no. Prior to the brutal invasion of this 3rd world country, the Taleban had all but erradicated the poppy fields, as verified by many NGOs and the UN. What happened the season after the CIA arrived? Yup, serious production! Shhhhhhhh! The CIA are drug runners. Shhhhhhh.

87

plord,

edinburgh 11/02/2007 14:31:40

he should have said right at the start, i smoked pot so what. the law is an ass. yesterdays puff piece about Macallan's Amber liqueur http://heritage.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=984&id=21...
"It's not for purists, it's an entry-level drug which gets people acquainted with the taste of whisky." lots of comments on what a great drug whisky is followed.
lets stop the hypocrisy dave says i can smoke you can't and tony & gordon say you have to pay for your education we didn't.
legalise cannabis. i can more easily justify the use of cannabis than whisky, its not the use of either that is a problem rather it is the abuse that is a problem. its not the politician that smokes that is a problem it's one who smoked then lies when asked or worse "i had a smoke but i did not inhale" type comment
lets ask our politicians to tell the truth and not worry about what the sun says.

88

Stu_R_20,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 14:34:54

#28
Couldn't agree more cannabis is falsely potrayed as that gateway drug. Yes, for the extreme minority but thats because it was the first drug made available to these people.
Legalize cannabis: it is the only way it can be regulated.
Congrats Dave you may win a few more votes from people of my age.
Why do people with no experience of drugs make the laws regarding them....

89

ddmc,

11/02/2007 14:40:26

#94 they have to fund the black ops from somewhere !
yes the taliban had all but removed opium growing, then suddenly when it's full of NATO troops the production is back @ pre-taliban levels. Hemp & MJ was demonised by the US in the early 1930's with most countries make it illegal in the years after until the 1960's when flower power made it popular in western culture. Holland, Canada, Switzerland have decriminalised it for small amounts, however the impending smoking ban in Holland is causing issues with 'coffee shops' seeking abstention if the employees sign a waiver. You may have guessed it's a subject close to my lungs or was, although i used to vapourise ;-)

90

IWright,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 14:56:36

I understand that cannabis is more carcinogenic than tobacco so it isn't harmless. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to use it. Let's treat adults as adults and let people make their own choices. Government should restrict itself to giving the public the best information it can on "lifestyle choices".

91

Finnking,

Cloud 9, man 11/02/2007 15:01:47

I remember reading in the Daily Mail (Iknow, the shame of it.....) the following comment from someone who apparently had a PhD is something (edukshun thes dais!): "100% of all herion users started on Cannibis." I was doing my O levels (badly) and I thought, "100% of alcoholics started off on milk". It was one of those moments in life when you think, "If these poeple are so against it, it must be good!" So the Daily Mail prompted me to try it and the leader of Tories smoked it too.

It's a non-story. The Tory HQ knew about this 'coming out', they are spinning it: Eton boy and still one of the lads! Vote for him, a man for all men.

92

Anne,

11/02/2007 15:05:05

He may have inhaled, but he didn't grass!

93

J.M.,

Kettlebridge 11/02/2007 15:10:56

Traces of Cannabis or Marijuana, I can't remember which, were found in Mr (Dr) John Reid's house when he was actually a Minister of the Crown. That was serious, since previous "sweeps" by the police had cleared the place. That was serious, but in view of John's wide-eyed innocence and complete mystification about such a inexplicable phenomenon it was completely ignored.

If that had happened to D. Cameron Esq., the public would have been entitled to a full explanation. What "call me Dave" did when he was fifteen is of little interest to any serious student of politics.

94

Debbra,

USA 11/02/2007 15:19:53

Yet another country falls guilty of the Republican propaganda, just like what's going on here, in the States. So what, if this guy smoked something when he was 15 yrs. old! I guess sitting around drinking alcohol is just fine, for those negative people. Seems to me this man would be the first to say "Just Say No" rather than a
"textbook expert"-now there's the real rip-off. Most people learn from their experiences. So those of you whom have ever stole something from a store, YOU ARE BURGLERS, (and have driven the cost of everything from water to furniture up so high most cannot afford the items-it's called "shortage," and billions of $$ each year cause people who do not steal to pay more for their goods); those of you whom have urinated outside -YOU ARE SEXUAL PREDITORS. . . . . I'd be more worried about what this MAN IS DOING NOW AS AN ADULT!
This pettiness comes from the equivilent of republicans in the U.S. Watch out! While you all are bickering about what this man did as a young teen, your taxes are being hicked, laws are being passed that concerns YOUR well being. . . .repubilcans used to do that junk here every day, until the NOVEMBER elections! Now they run fast and hard away from what they are responsible for;many do not run for re-election, not because of what they did as a teen; but for what they have done in the last 6+ years, as ADULTS!

95

morris,

edinburgh 11/02/2007 15:21:23

Personally I could not care less about what David Cameron did at Eton.My far bigger concern is what are we going to do after our numpties re elect us into the United Kingdom at the General election via the three Unionist parties but for differing reasons.
The Tories at least will get the Tory government they would never realise,were we in an independent Scotland.
The Labour voters will, as usual, have completely missed the plot,and repeat the 18 years of Tory rule in Scotland(including Thatcher who they loathed and then showed how bright thay are by electing her by voting Labour)! (4 times)!
The Liberals are slightly better (or are they) They at least recognise that the two Unionist parties who could hope to govern, are not the answer,so they vote for a Unionist party that has even less chance of being elected than the other two!
Maybe I might take it up myself!Its no stupider than the track record of everybody else !

96

Illusionsaregrander,

11/02/2007 15:24:31

Why is smoking cannabis as a adolescent an issue at all? I am more concerned with what they do as adults.

97

Topper,

uk 11/02/2007 15:29:09

Trust me, I'm a politician!

98

Finnking,

Cloud 9, man 11/02/2007 15:36:44

So yet again, another child of the elite is seeking to represent us. Great. Don't vote, it only encourages them.

99

Mahem,

over here 11/02/2007 15:57:11

It should be required by law that everybody have a toke before the age of 18 in order to avoid this kind of drivel in the future. If one can have a joint, and whose to say in Cameron's case that he didn't have a lot more until he was busted, and still become an MP, it begs two questions - pot does not affect your mental faculties-pot affects your mental faculties.
Or, you can do what I did - www.mahem.ca

100

Ken M,

Stenhousemuir 11/02/2007 16:19:15

Get a spaniel (soon to be without docked tail) and when you forget where you have left your stash your spaniel will find it for you. You should have seen the size of the packet of grass I brought back from Nigeria in 1978. Nearly passed out when the customs officer at Gatwick picked up my dirty washing bag and squeezed it (for there it was hidden).

Oh, but I was 28 then. Nowadays wouldn't touch the stuff with a bargepole. I think it is something you go through and outgrow although there will always be victims, just as there is in the rest of the experience of life.

As for politicians, why shouldn't they try out some of life's experiences before they enter politics and why should they be judged on what they did before entering politics? A leader needs some slumming experience for street cred.

Compare that to the toothless, holier than thou MSP's who are sanitising Scotland of their personal pet hates because they have no fiscal or foreign policies to distract their too-much-personal-attention in our daily lives.

Caffiene is a drug too. I had 5 cups of coffe today and have already had 1 330ml bottle of Staropramen and half a 500ml can of Miller(the other half went into making the sauce for my pork roast).

As long as I turn up sober for my work tomorrow, who cares?

101

tomfrom66,

11/02/2007 16:22:22

OK, he took drugs. Big deal.

My reading of his biog is he and his Eton pals thought it OK to trash the restaurant where they had just eaten and then, presumably, expect "pater" would fork out for the damage, so as to avoid any bother with the local plod.

Drugs damage the idiots who take them, but no one indulging in these restaurant "japes" seems to have had thought much about the restaurant owner, the people who worked there, or the other customers.

Then they think they are fit to govern the rest of us.

102

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103

GrahamH,

11/02/2007 16:30:40

Not all unity as recent front bench resignation testifies when a leading Tory actually wanted to do something positive for Scotlands fishing fleet.
More like the English National Party.

104

Ken M,

Stenhousemuir 11/02/2007 16:32:09

No politician in their right mind would smoke cannabis. If a week is a long time in politics, smoking dope only makes the week feel longer.

105

bun107,

Edinburgh 11/02/2007 16:40:43

FAO Androsthenes (POST 9)

I have never tried cannabis and i'm proud of it.

On the issue above, so what if Cameron did at school - many many people have done in the past, but that shouldn't be held against him now.

Typical media - dredging up stuff from people's pasts to torment them with...

whatever next....politican wet his pants aged 2 - shock horror!

106

Bien E. Bien,

11/02/2007 17:37:11

I have no problem at all with a man having smoked a bit of dope in his youth. There is a clear difference between having tried something and being chemically upon it. A bigger issue may be the consumption of alcohol by politcal (and journalistic) hacks.

107

Jackie,

At home drinking blackcurrant and elderberry tea. 11/02/2007 18:01:21

OK, so he did something a lot of folk did at that age, so what? We all wanted budgies as pets in the 60's just so we could try growing "Bounce" and "Trill" An no wonder they called that budgie seed "Bounce"!!! But it was just so we could disect the plants as part of a school project you understand.

What I want to know is why this peice of non-news was released, and why it is being made out to be such a big thing? Maybe he has pastimes now (like most other potlickers) that would be better kept quiet. But no, I am just a cynical auld wummin, I am sure this is the very worst thing young David has done in his life so far.

108

The Guzz,

Fife 11/02/2007 18:06:30

106. Loki – You said forget peer pressure and I agree that the ultimate choice is down to the individual. I was saying that introduction to harder drugs is ‘usually’ through friends or associates already involved and they express their ‘euphoria’ to encourage you (the individual) to try it. Yes they can say no but that is how most do actually get into harder drugs. I agree with the rest of your post including in particular the last paragraph.

109

Prinzowhales,

North Carolina 11/02/2007 18:40:15

Dr. Mercola, in his newsletter the other day, noted that Francis Crick, the Nobel Prize winner who put forward the double helix structure as the form DNA took was under the influence of LSD when he had this brilliant insight.

In another newsletter, I read that the Spanish did their level best to destroy the chia plants that provided such great nutrition for their adversaries in Mexico.

In the United States and other backward lands, cannabis use is outlawed and lives are ruined by the zealotry of law enforcement while Americans are deprived of a useful and healthful crop.

If Cameron used cannabis--good for him! To 'ell with the law--no jury of civilized human beings should ever return a guilty verdict for use or possession of cananbis.

110

lisa,

perth 11/02/2007 18:42:29

#14 - Come on then, dish the dirt on our Gordon.

He has always come over as a man who is frightened of people he is not able to control, and he makes the Reverend IM Jolly look like someone who has overdosed on laughing gas.

The only risk he experiences is tha possibility he might slip while trying to jump on every passing bandwagon.

Did you see him interviewed in India on Big Brother? Here was a man for whom real life was a far distant illusion.

If you know of any reason why we should respect him (and I mean a bit more than cheating at conkers by soaking them in vinegar) then we should be told. It can only be in his interests for us to realise he is human like the rest of us.

111

ahhdundee,

carnoustie 11/02/2007 19:04:42

looks like he`s took a "Whitey" in that photo. Is that why he`s always in the kitchen on his webcameron? Bad case of the munchies perhaps?

112

Chikderic,

Inverness 11/02/2007 19:26:27

Cameron's taking of cannabis and supporting Blair's illegal war suggests that he is very easy to lead astray. Do we really want that in a Prime Minister. I would have more respect for him if he had said to his friends at school he was not going to take an illegal substance which could well affect his behaviour and had said to Blair that he wanted real proof of Saddam Hussein's wicked intentions.

113

Ken M,

Stenhousemuir 11/02/2007 19:45:03

Chikderik. I think you will find that dope turns you into anti-war. Youl'd have to balance out your dope years with booze years to put you on a war mongering footing.

114

Buckfastleigh,

Dartmoor 11/02/2007 19:55:26

This is just typical of the English Toffs and the attitudes of privilege that they exude; had some poor person nicked cash to try out this expensive habit he would undoubtedly have been made to pay for it in our gaols by the peers of that same society of ruling hypocrites.

For a leader of an English political party and a Unionists one to boot, this is only to be expected and I am not surprised that Tories all are rallying to his aid.

The only consolation is that as he has been found out its tough on him. Apparently for that group of born rulers being found out is not normally tolerated.

Well Done Cameron you have shown that you are much like the rest of us really (is that not what you have been at pains to demonstrate to all?) except that you are rich and privileged to boot.

115

Richard,

west lothian 11/02/2007 21:05:04

Chikderic

Quite happy to spout the (supposed)negatives of cannabis from a position of ignorance. Everybody I know who have a "toke" are sane, well adjusted members of society and to a man/woman against the Iraq war?

116

Pictus,

Green Gables 11/02/2007 21:17:33

I'd never vote for anyone who smoked dried carrot fibres that could now be used to make battleships in our hour of need. Unlike parsnip fibre, carrot stunts the growth and the once and future candidate would end up with a wife twice his size.

117

robert chapman,

Lansing, NY 11/02/2007 22:28:08

The Conservatives staunch support of Cameron despite pot smoking that resulted in disciplinary action is yet another proof that Clinton should have inhaled.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

118

Buckfastleigh,

11/02/2007 22:48:36

State Secrets?

Maybe I have got this wrong; and what if Cameron is not really an Englishman but a closet Scot in disguise.

After all Shamus an caca's campaign did scatter many wild oats in '45. Who knows for certain? I think we should be told.

119

Faye,

Scotland 11/02/2007 23:26:07

Oh come on, its part of growing up.

A trip to a well known European country, a visit to a "Brown house" (not Gordon Brown) and a few laughs with friends.

The question must be......was this a one of event of is he still drugged up?

Maybe! After all, who in their right mind would put up a wind turbine on an historic property and then tell others to do the same?

Forget about increased community charges, increased buildings insurance premiums - hey man its cool - pass over the spliff please.

120

Lord Pasternack,

12/02/2007 00:46:39

Am I the only one who couldn't care less?

121

Auckland Arab,

New Zealand 12/02/2007 03:04:05

[Origin: 1175–1225; ME ipocrite; hypocrita <Greek> hypokrits - a stage actor, hence one who pretends to be what he is not.

hyp·o·crite:

–noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

It would have been more appropriate if he had been made to copy out Ancient Greek !

I also noticed that these "Old Etonians" smoked dope while listening to Reggae. Cue next election theme song for the Tories, "There's a skeleton in me cupboard, what am me gonna do.." (sung to the tune of UB40 "There's a rat in me kitchen").

122

bayalert,

Alert Bay, BC Canada 12/02/2007 03:43:50

"Because it's the editorial judgement of this paper which puts this non story as its lead that make me most angry this morning - to be fair alongside most other papers".

This was my first thought too.
What kind of tosh - brained people would dream this up? with all the innuendo spin which the news item does not support.
I'm from BC, home of "BC Bud".
The "King of Pot", Mark Emery was a year ago arrested by Canadian Police on a US warrant.
Even the Canadian government bought seeds from Marc and left him alone, as the Canadian public wants it.

123

Age of Reason,

in the opium confessional 12/02/2007 04:30:33

If every one of us who smoked a bit of dope and argued with the beer-boozers about the merits/demerits of deQuincy vs The Doors (of Perception) were carrer-blocked and demoted, the world economy would collapse.

Politicians need experience to govern. This looks like a good lesson well learned long ago.

124

Sherpa,

Perth, Australia 12/02/2007 05:07:15

For a non-news story, it sure got a lot of comments! I am unsure what the scandal is about - Smoking, snitching, use of poetry as punishment or just the whole Eton thing?

125

Davydubbit,

Edinburgh 12/02/2007 07:10:24

Good on-um! He obviously has 'life experiences' under his belt... the sort of person you would want in his position. People with supposed squeaky-clean backgrounds creep me out and are unlikely to get my vote... I always wonder what deviations/secrets they suppress/hide/deny, not to mention their ability when they've been so far removed from the real world all their lives. Keep it real, I say.

126

Standardbearer,

Edinburgh 12/02/2007 08:50:43

Why an apostrophe in the headline? The correct term is "Tories" not "Tory's".

Why on Earth would anyone want to read an article by someone who makes such a crass mistake in his headline?

127

expat33,

wandering 12/02/2007 09:49:10

The most shocking tuing that I ever read.

Yet another Tory politician who went to Eton. He should be ashamed of himself!

128

Prinzowhales,

North Carolina 12/02/2007 13:28:30

War in Iraq, open borders, climate change, energy policy....all pale in significance before Cameron's use of marijuana a zillion years ago and the death of Anna Nicole Smith....

129

Mrs Numpty,

Sussex 12/02/2007 15:00:38

If the poor unemployed smoke pot they are irresponsible, if the rich Etonian,s do it, it,s because they are just experimenting, (129 Buckfastleigh) you have voiced something I have been thinking, he just might be Scotish.

130

Russell the...well not so green at any rate,

The part of the globe currently not warm 12/02/2007 17:53:52

He DID inhale...and addmitted to it, and deserves respect for the latter and probably no disrespect for the former ( billy boy either couldn't man up to his buddies as a kid or to the public as an older kid...ok no real revelation there...) anyway on this side of the big solar energy absorbing, climate changing puddle, 'cannabis' is illegal by tradition(kind of like jesus is diety by tradition,) because in days of yore,(at least as far as our limited 'yore' goes,) the cotton farmers were greasing congress a little more than the hemp farmers...had nothing to do with the curative properties...it was about rope...so what's your excuse?


 

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