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Kenny Farquharson: East Enders will rewrite the script


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Published Date:
20 July 2008
HOW inconsiderate of them. It seems the voters of Glasgow East are stubbornly refusing to play the part sketched out for them in the story of Gordon Brown's downfall.
According to the script – think Braveheart with a dash of Spartacus – the people of the East End were meant to rise up and throw off the Labour shackles, inflicting a historic by-election defeat. This week's contest was to be the tipping point for Br
own's premiership, the moment when Labour was sent an unmistakable message from its deepest heartland, landing a body blow from which no Government could ever recover.

Such a sensational result now looks unlikely. Labour will indeed see its majority slashed in its 25th safest Westminster seat on Thursday. But few are now expecting Glasgow East to be lost to the SNP – one poll yesterday had the Nationalists still trailing by 17 points. The expectation of campaigners on the ground, backed up by the bookies, is that Labour will win.

So this will not be the tipping point, the final straw, curtains or the coup de grace. Brown's political death will not be conveniently swift and dramatic. It will be long and slow and ugly and painful. If Labour clings on to this seat it will be the most hollow of victories for Brown. Defeat would surely have damned him, but victory will not save him. Glasgow East won't change the diagnosis that has been clear for the past six months, that Brown is the political equivalent of an old sick dog; everybody knows he's on his last legs but no one can muster the heart to put him out of his misery.

Few of the reasons for Labour's by-election survival will be cause for celebration in Downing Street. Labour will have held on because in much of the East End stasis is a way of life. Dependency culture can breed an adherence to a party just as much as an armchair, a bottle or a welfare handout. For this reason it would be foolhardy to extrapolate too much from the Glasgow East outcome. This is not the kind of constituency where general elections are won or lost. The people who decide general elections are floating voters who are at ease with exercising choices in their lives. Choice is not a common feature of life in the Calton.

To insure themselves against any setback on Thursday, Downing Street spin doctors are already briefing that they are relaxed about by-election results, insisting it will be a completely different story once we get to choosing a Prime Minister. At that point, they say, it won't be about protest. Instead it will be a choice between Brown and David Cameron, and Labour is confident it can make the challenger look callow, opportunist and insincere. Brown will be presented as the man who can steer Britain through global financial storms to emerge weathered but intact at the other end.

This analysis is so naive it's almost rather sweet. It completely under- estimates the extent to which Brown has lost the voters' confidence. As the cost of living continues to climb, the public isn't looking for a helmsman – it wants a scapegoat.

Back to Glasgow East. Of course, there are still four days to go until polling day and anything can happen. The biggest imponderable is tomorrow's unveiling of Labour's work-for-welfare strategy, which represents the biggest shake-up of the British welfare state for a generation. Launching it while fighting a by-election in one of the most benefit-dependent corners of Britain (16,800 local voters of working age are living off the state) is either brave or foolhardy. At the very least it gives Brown a decent defence against the charge that he is pandering to the voters. Incidentally, there must have been hollow laughter at the Treasury last week when the Tories characterised the scrapping of the 2p fuel duty rise as "a by-election bribe" – Glasgow East has the lowest car use of any constituency in Britain, with 59% of the population having no access to a car.

Pundits had predicted the Glasgow East contest would be a re-run of the Govan by-elections that produced famous Nationalist breakthroughs. But to my mind, it has been more reminiscent of Monklands East, the by-election that followed the death of Labour leader John Smith in 1994. The similarity is the key role played by religion. In Monklands, the controversy was over local councillors allegedly featherbedding Catholic Coatbridge at the expense of Protestant Airdrie. In Glasgow East we have seen the Catholic church effectively go to war against Labour over its support for the human embryology bill and its refusal to back a tightening of abortion law. Last week, Bishop Joe Devine said, bluntly: "Labour has broken its pact with Christian voters." Catholic academics are publicly calling for a vote for the SNP and today Cardinal Keith O'Brien weighs in.

This is the other imponderable: what effect will this morning's sermons have in this most Catholic of constituencies? Regardless of the result on Thursday, this by-election campaign will have crystallised a fundamental truth in the new Scottish politics – the emergence of the SNP as a party of social conservatism, and the belief among the Catholic hierarchy that an independent SNP-led Scotland would better reflect Christian orthodoxy on morality, the family, sexuality and fertility. Glasgow East may make its mark after all.

Join Scotland on Sunday assistant editor Kenny Farquharson from 9pm BST today for an online chat about the issues of the day. Add your questions or comments below – now – and visit here later today for the live discussion.



The full article contains 953 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 00:09:27
Dear Kenny Farquharson

Frank Sinatra said in a concert in Australia in 1974 that all journalists are parasites. They take and take and take but never give back to society.
Do you agree with this ?
YES or No. ?
2

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 00:17:19
Dear Kenny

Newspapers are always squealing about the freedom of the press.
So why is it then the Scotsman censors comments ?
Is this just hypocrisy from journalists ?
YES or NO ?
3

Al Ford,

Insch 20/07/2008 00:42:47
It seems clear that the Catholic Church perceives the Labour Party's Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill to be a complete and utter anathema and an evil which must be opposed by all means at its disposal.

It appears to be certain, therefore, that the Bishop of Motherwell has instructed his priests throughout his diocese, which includes the Glasgow East constituency, to advise their congregations of their Christian duty to vote and to vote in accordance with their conscience. They will then no doubt advise them in the clearest imaginable terms that in conscience they are bound in accordance with the teachings of the Church to oppose the Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill, which is in conflict with the Church's teaching. They will no doubt be advised that they cannot in conscience vote for the party responsible for this legislation, namely the Labour Party.

It is not the case, I think, that the Church is at war with the Labour Party. The Church merely does what in conscience it must do. The Labour Party has placed itself in direct opposition to the Church on a fundamental issue which is dear to the Church and upon which it cannot give ground. As the Labour Party has not withdrawn from the position which it has adopted but has merely indulged in a little rescheduling, a collision is inevitable. That collision is about to occur, and the 30 per cent or so of the Glasgow East electorate who are believed to be Catholics may well feel obliged to vote in accordance with their conscience. In this by-election the importance of the moral dimension should not be underestimated.
4

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 20/07/2008 01:02:40
Kenny, lad, give Maggie a hand. She needs an experienced man to help her out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4362917.ece

and at the same time, you might see a little more of Glasgow than that sad wee stool at John Smith House.
5

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 01:08:14
Dear Kenny

Why is the Scottish press just the labour fan club with typewriters ?
Herald editor Murray Ritchie said so.
6

Joe wolson,

Glasgow 20/07/2008 01:54:40
What is the SNP view of abortion?
7

Steve,

20/07/2008 02:00:56
Kenny please stop writing Labour propaganda..

read the Sunday Herald or Sunday Times for the facts of the situation. It's currently neck and neck. In spite of all the lying articles and ridiculous opinion polls.

Will you resign if Labour get thumped?
I hope so.
8

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 02:16:57
Dear Kenny

Why is the media and the BBC and Channel 4 in particular infested with far left extremists and liberals who want to foist their own agenda on the country ?

Is there a lefty liberal bias in the media ?
YES or NO.
9

Joe wolson,

Glasgow 20/07/2008 02:28:14
Note your comments Wilhelm. I take it you believe that the SNP are neither liberal nor left wing. Fair point, I doubt if they are when you consider their business agenda.

Is that how they are portraying themselves in Glasgow East?
10

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 03:01:08
9 Joe Wolson

Note this Joe Wolson. I never said anything about the SNP.
Im talking about the labour bias in the press and the media. Comprende.
11

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 03:09:42
Dear Kenny

The press carried out a character assassination of Robert Murat.
His life is in tatters

Are you proud of the presses conduct ?
YES or NO ?


12

Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 20/07/2008 07:39:33
If the SNP win Glasgow East, Scotland enters into a new era, whatever the fate of Brown. If Labour holds the seat with a reduced majority, the media circus will move on, leaving the people of the East End of Glasgow with a bad taste in their mouths as the realisation dawns that nothing has changed for them, and that Margaret Curran is off to Westminster to toe the party line and ignore her constituents.
But in either scenario, the SNP is strengthened by the new political and social awareness of Scots, and their growing confidence in their Scottish Parliament and Government - in their ain folk. And in 2010, they will speak.
Meanwhile, the journalists just don't understand, and desperately recycle old ideas and cliches. But perhaps there are new journalistic voices waiting for their moment to accurately depict and analyse Scotland's new age.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OARvE4ZzMCY
13

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 11:22:15
Dear Kenny

The best asset the SNP has got is Gordon Brown.
In England he is seen as a dour, socially awkward, misery guts.
In Scotland he is seen as a traitor who doesnt care about the folks back home in Scotland.

Do you agree with this statement ?
YES or NO ?
14

VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

Glenrothes 20/07/2008 11:58:24
Dear Kenny

Are there any plans to make The Scotsman and Scotland on Sunday less biased towards Labour and The Union ?
I used to look forward to reading your papers but got fed up with so many anti SNP stories and so stopped buying them. Your biased reporting got to a crescendo during the last Scottish elections with even Gerald Warner telling readers to vote Labour.
I miss my Scotsman and SoS and although The Herald and Sunday Herald are quite good I think I'd switch back to your papers if your reporting wasn's so biased.
I'm an SNP supporter but have no problems with your paper highlighting any issues where you think they are failing. But I do have a problem when you concentrate on SNP problems and ignore Labour / Tory / Lib Dem etc failings.
15

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 12:46:32
Dear Kenny

Why is the Scotsman so strident and demented about the british union ?
You are alienating 37 % of the population who vote SNP.
It doesnt make good business sense. Dont you want to have higher sales ?

Would you agree with that statement ?
YES or NO ?
16

brownlie,

20/07/2008 12:47:06
Kenny

Before you come on-line would you care to glance through the "political" head-lines in the Scotsman/Scotland on Sunday over the last six months and tell us if you can note any degree of bias - one way or the other?

Considering that some of the head-lines bear little relation to the article do you consider that undecided voters would be influenced by these head-lines alone?
17

Alfie Bett,

20/07/2008 14:05:15
It has to be accepted that in this constituency the prospect of an SNP victory would be astounding,if we give any credence to this poll the electorate incredibly still seem to prefer Labour,even when represented by this garrulous windbag of a woman in a red rosette over the more thoughtful and considered approach of John Mason of the SNP,this really should not be much of a surprise from an electorate who have consistently returned to Westminster an absolute nonentity of Labour lobby fodder for the best part of thirty years until he was struck down with the fund-ootitis virus.
Labour know they will have a greatly reduced majority but will spin it with the help of the compliant Scottish media as a great victory for labour and a calamity for the SNP,whereas in reality the SNP will be able to extrapolate from the result of their greatly increased share of the vote what their chances would be at a general election in other labour held seats that do not have the majority that Glasgow East had in 2005 and it may well be that at the next general election the SNP could hold close to a majority of seats in Scotland.
18

Calummac,

20/07/2008 19:14:47
Kenny,

Why don't you just give Alf Young a job for SoS?
19

Calummac,

20/07/2008 19:17:05
This article contradicts most other Sundays, by the way. According to the Sunday Times, Express and Herald the outcome of the by election is too close to call. Therefore, either the Scotsman has a separately commissioned poll that I assume that SoS has commissioned a separate poll (i.e. went round the canteen in John Smith House) or you are just making unsubstantiated statements?
20

BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 19:46:13
Kenny, Kenny, Kenny what are you doing!

Where have you been?

Accoring to the latest opinion poll Labour's vote in Glasgow East is going to fall less than 5% from just over 60% to 57%.

I and my family have met personally have met enough voters who have changed their vote to prove this wrong never mind the hundreds of others who have been out campaiging for the SNP and who have experienced the same thing.

Your article has been on the site all day and I am the 20th contributor.

Tell you something?
21

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 20:51:48
"But this denoted a foregone conclusion."
22

Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 20/07/2008 20:56:30
Hello, am online now for the next hour. I'll be responding to some of your comments shortly, but feel free to join in with any contributions about the column, about SoS or about any of the issues of the day.
23

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 20:59:24
# 14
Actually, both the Scotsman and Scotland on Sunday backed an SNP government at the last Holyrood election.
24

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:02:48
# 14

Yet again on this forum I note the word "traitors" to refer to people who don't favour total political independence.

A strange way to regard two-thirds of the Scottish nation.
25

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:03:40
# 13


Another "traitor" comment. Nice.
26

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:04:18
23
LOL. Can you give us some URLs Kenny?
27

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:05:34
Wilheim....

Will you permit people to answer questions in ways that reflect their subtlety and complexity?

YES OR NO?
28

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:07:18
# 26 Conan

I can only assume you don't read the papers, or were out if the country at the time.

29

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:08:12
23 Kenny

Who's kidding who ? Your talkng to Wilhelm now, not some labour counciler who has the intelligence of a fruit fly.

Incidentally 20 comments posted and 8 of them mine.
Does the Scotsman sales department have a hotline to the Samaritans ?


30

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:08:33
28
So you can't then?
31

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:10:36
# 12 Peter Curran

"If the SNP win Glasgow East, Scotland enters into a new era, whatever the fate of Brown."

I completely agree. I just don't see it happening.
32

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:13:26
Kenny, Would you agree that the target market of Scotsman publications is the ABC1 bracket?
33

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:14:25
28
Excuse me Kenny, can you direct me to pro SNP threads on the Scotsman. Thanks.
34

brownlie,

20/07/2008 21:16:43
Kenny

Would you care to comment on my post at 16. Thanks!
Would you like some examples?
35

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:17:54
#33 Conan
SoS gives stick to all the political parties, as well you know. Ask Jack McConnell to show you his scars.
36

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:20:40
Dear Kenny

Do you like Scotland dependent on London, tied to mummys apron strings ?

A very simple question and it only takes a YES or NO answer.

37

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:22:00
35
That wasn't what I asked Kenny.
A pro SNP thread...just the one?
38

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:22:25
Kenny, my sympathies to you - I get the impession you have called in a team of back room boys to help you this time. And you were always good with your live debates.
39

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:24:04
# 30
This is the URL of SoS's eve of poll leader backing the SNP in Mat 2007, but there's a problem with it it loading...

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ViewArticle.aspx?articleid=3281062

From the comments, however, you can sample a few of the (rather well written) sentiments, including:

"If this contest really is a battle between hope and fear, we choose hope."

"The SNP leader has offered a vision of a more confident and dynamic Scotland. Scotland needs such a leader, to inject some self-belief and dynamism into the government of Scotland. If he can overcome a strong Lib Dem candidate in the Gordon constituency, Alex Salmond could be such a leader. His bravura performances throughout the past month have shown us what has been missing from Holyrood: a genuine big political beast."

40

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:24:33
Kenny

I will grant you permission to evade all my questions !
41

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:25:34
# 38 Jock

A team??? I think you have a rather curious notion of the resources my newspaper has available!
42

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:26:09
Kenny,

Forget Glasgow East - is your job at stake here?
43

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:29:10
# 42 Jock

In almost 20 years of reporting Scottish politics I've been wrong about lots of things! If I'm wrong I'll be writing my mea culpa next Sunday.
44

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:30:12
39
Jeez Kenny, look at the comments under the refusing to load statement.
45

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:31:03
I thought this was a forum that Kenny answered questions on.
Apparently I was mistaken !

The rest of the posters can see this and will be the judge, jury and executioner.
May God have mercy on Kennys soul !

46

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:31:13
41, Kenny. Not in the slightest. You can tell the syndicated stuff from the home grown stuff.

And you can also tell from the quality of the reporting.

The stable can still afford to send a journalist to Afghanistan but apparently cannot afford the vital training beforehand.
47

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:31:58
# Steve

I'm a bit baffled how you can read what my column said about Gordon Brown and say it's Labour propaganda!

"Brown is the political equivalent of an old sick dog; everybody knows he's on his last legs but no one can muster the heart to put him out of his misery."
48

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:33:52
# 44 Conan

Aye, hard to please, eh?

49

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:33:52
Kenny

In your parlance. You blew it. BIG TIME.
50

BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 21:34:10
Hi Kenny and congratulations on coming online to answer some posts!

Can you answer this?

Can you tell me when in recent times there was a by election, that could potentially unseat a UK Prime minister where not a single media outlet thought it worthwhile to commission a reputable polling organisation (not one prepared to amend the figures) to try and discover what was happening in the final run in?

The last, and only reputable poll was ICM a long time ago that showed the SNP 2/3rds of the way there.

Seems unbelievable that there is such a lack of interest!
51

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:37:11
43, Kenny, I can't see Labour losing this. What I object to is a bias in a publication that purports to appeal to the intelligent readership with apparent impunity and then takes the h u m p when intelligent people argue back.

Note the spaces in h u m p. Adult word moderated by an automaton.
52

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:37:27
# 50 Big Eye

A good question.

A couple of factors here - the first is that by-election polls are notoriously difficult to get right. It's a real struggle to get a sample that truly reflects the demographic.

But the main factor is that newspapers are skint.
53

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:37:32
Kenny

Scotsman sales are in free fall.

Are you proud of that fact ?
54

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:39:16
48
Fair enough.
That's the one instance I asked for;-)
55

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:40:43
# 51
Ach, Jock, I'm just having a wee bit argy-bargy. You love it really.

What I take the h u m p at is a word like "traitor", which I regard as offensive.

On almost everything else, I and what I write are fair game.
56

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:42:32
Well Kenny this little public relations, exercise was a complete and utter waste of everyones time.
57

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:43:18
Wasnt it ?
58

brownlie,

20/07/2008 21:43:24
Kenny

As you appear reluctant to answer my query regarding the head-lines do you think that Salmond has delivered the "more confident and dynamic Scotland" mentioned in your post at 39?
59

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:44:25
55
Kenny, can you do anything about the ridiculous censorbot? I see you getting the H U M P too?

60

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:45:21
# brownlie

I think Scotland certainly is a more confident and dynamic place than it was a year ago, and yes, a sense of optimism that accompanied the new government is part of the reason for that.
61

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:45:51
Kenny says
''But the main factor is that newspapers are skint''

Maybe if the Scotsman turned into a proper newspaper, the sales might go up.

Have you ever thought of that ?
62

BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 21:47:07
Thanks for the answer Kenny.

Simple question Why are the Scottish newspapers Skint?

Answer (I Think)

They spend so much of their time being biased in favour of the Labour Party (thus alienating readers who support other parties).

All newspapers, due to changes in technology, face major challenges, newspapers that set out to support one view, which is in major decline are facing oblivion!

By the way I write this as someone who would like both the Herald and Scotsman and their Sunday relatives to continue but am becoming increasingly convinced this cannot happen without a sea change in editorial policy!
63

brownlie,

20/07/2008 21:48:46
60 Kenny

Thanks for that, Kenny.

So you are ignorning my queries regarding the head-lines in your paper. We will have to draw our own conclusions from that.
64

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:48:58
Kenny says
''Actually, both the Scotsman and Scotland on Sunday backed an SNP government at the last Holyrood election.''


Why dont you tell the truth for once in your life ?
65

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 21:50:32
Kenny,

re 55. I've never used the word traitor. To all, their own beliefs.

You, Sir, are fair game and a professional with the old-fashioned Scotsman sense of humour. You also give a good hour's worth - not like the stopwatcher, Eddie.

Shame about your employers though.
66

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:50:53
# 62 Big Eye

I can assure you that all politicians from all parties think the press is biased against them. And that's exactly how it should be. We're here to subject politicians to intense scrutiny - especially when they're in government.
67

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:50:57
Another triumph.

Game, Set and Match to Wilhelm .
68

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:52:11
Kenny

Dont call us, we'll call you !
69

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:52:36
Wilhelm, I salute you.
70

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:52:36
Wilhelm, I salute you.
71

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:53:14
i meant that so sincerely the computer posted it twice.
72

brownlie,

20/07/2008 21:55:13
Why are you saluting him - he's not really the Kaiser!
73

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 21:55:24
71
Your views on the censorbot Kenny?
74

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 21:57:29
Kenny says
''i meant that so sincerely''

Yeah in a kind of a Hughie Green kind of a way.

Thanks for not answering any of my questions. Thanks for nothing !
75

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 21:59:02
#73 Conan

I'm afraid that to my mind a computer is just a typewriter with a telly on top. I don't understand how it works.

The censorbot is there for our moral wellbeing and to protect our delicate sensibilities.

Which is a darn good thing.
76

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 22:00:54
Kenny says
''I'm afraid that to my mind a computer is just a typewriter with a telly on top. I don't understand how it works. ''

Is it a Fisher Price computer ?
77

Kenny Farquharson,

20/07/2008 22:01:59
Am signing off now. Many thanks for your contributions. As always, if you would like to email me privately rather than take part in a public forum, my email is kenny.farquharson@scotlandonsunday.com
Good night.
78

Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 20/07/2008 22:04:28
Kenny #31

Kenny, you picked one scenario to respond to, a SNP win. What did you think of my summary incorporating both outcomes, win or lose?

"But in either scenario, the SNP is strengthened by the new political and social awareness of Scots, and their growing confidence in their Scottish Parliament and Government - in their ain folk. And in 2010, they will speak.
79

,

20/07/2008 22:05:54
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
80

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 22:06:10
Well folks , What did we learn there. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !

Kenny. You will be seeing my lawyers in the morning for wasting my valuable time.
81

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 22:06:47

75
The Scotsman censorbot is eating into the English/ Scots lexicon at an alarming rate.
You as a journalist should be very alarmed.
82

Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 20/07/2008 22:08:46
Postscript: By the way,Kenny I appreciate your coming online to respond to the flak with good humour, even the abusive stuff. In the interesting times to come for Scotland, civilised debate will be essential. We're too small a country for a civil war - there's nae room for it!
83

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 22:09:35
Kenny says
'' if you would like to email me privately rather than take part in a public forum, my email is kenny.farquharson@scotlandonsunday.com''


Whats the point ?
You might as well talk to a goldfish and you probably get more sense out of a goldfish.
84

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:10:51
Automatons are there to protect us? Don't make me laugh.

79 is from a generation that would frown on premarital sex and yet the retard censor blocks 2 words which are tamer than those heard on fbefore threshold television. Gie's a break.
85

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:18:18
Perhaps 79 might have worked with an adaptation of the times to suit the automaton retard censor.

Let's try replacing the word b u g g e r with roger.
86

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:21:06
Oh,
the sexual life of a camel
is more varied than some people think
one day in the heat of the desert
it tried to roger the sphynx

There we go - same meaning but the h u m p is a proscribed word.
87

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 22:24:10
86
Try the guid Scots word humph Jock?
88

BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/07/2008 22:26:09
Sorry Kenny I don't think your answers had much credibility but we citizens are unaware of the pressures at your place of employment.

89

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:31:49
yes Conan, 87, but camels do not have humphs on their back. The spit at you when they take the humph.

88, BIG EYE. Spot on.
90

Conan the Librarian™,

20/07/2008 22:36:54
But camels are humphie-backit, Jock...
91

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:37:46
Unemployed journalists just won't know how they are are going to pay their water charges soon.
92

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/07/2008 22:43:01
Conan,90, a camel with 3 humphs is called Humphrey.

The last verse to that song is more likely to attract the censor:

If I had the b a l l s of a bison
and the p r i c k of a grat buffalo
I'd stand on the edge of creation
and p i s s on the b a s t a r d s below
93

Wilhelm ,

20/07/2008 22:53:34
Come independence , not if but when its just a matter of time.
Dear old Kenny will be selling the Big Issue on his much loved Brittiania yacht down at Leith docks.
94

Wilhelm ,

21/07/2008 10:15:48
Kenny

Since you dont like answering simple questions.
Here's a complex question.
Whats Santa getting you for Christmas ?

 

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