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Greenland's broccoli is bad for our health



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Published Date: 04 November 2007
IT IS a global warming story capable of striking fear into the hearts of children: broccoli can now be grown in Greenland.
The land synonymous with ice sheets, polar bears and Eskimos has experienced a small but significant increase in temperature which has made it economically viable for the first time in hundreds of years to grow and sell the vegetable locally.

The
57,000 inhabitants of the island, the world's largest, rely on the sea and imports from Denmark for the vast majority of their food.

But a one-degree Celsius rise in the temperature of the North Atlantic over the past century has boosted the air temperature in the south of Greenland by about three degrees.

Although potatoes have been produced for some time, climate change has created a 'growing window' during the summer months just long enough to allow the cultivation of vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage and carrots.

A Greenlandic supermarket is now stocking the locally grown vegetables for the first time. Some farmers are conducting even more ambitious agricultural experiments, including growing strawberries. So far, however, the strawberry crop is measured in dozens of fruit rather than tonnes.

Although global warming has made these farming feats possible in such a previously frigid landscape, the prices are steep by UK standards.

A single head of locally grown broccoli will cost about £1.87, still much cheaper than the £2.80 charged for the vegetable flown in from Denmark. Carrots are more affordable, at around 46p a pound for the locally grown vegetables, compared with 55p for the imported variety.

Kenneth Hoeg, the chief agriculture adviser for southern Greenland, said he does not see why southern Greenland cannot eventually be full of vegetable farms and even viable forests.

"If it gets a little warmer, you could talk about a productive forest with enough wood for logs," Hoeg said.

"The limiting factor for human survival here is temperature, and there's a lot of benefits with a warmer climate. We are on the frontier of agriculture, and even a few degrees can make a difference."

Winter is coming later and leaving earlier. That means there is more time to leave sheep in the mountains, more time to grow crops, more time to work outdoors and more opportunity to travel by boat, since the fjords freeze later and less frequently.

Ewes are having fatter lambs, and more of them every season. The growing season, such as it is, now lasts roughly from mid-May through to mid-September, about three weeks longer than a decade ago.

"Now spring is coming earlier, and you can have earlier lambings and longer grazing periods," said Eenoraq Frederiksen, 68, a sheep farmer whose farm, near Qassiarsuk, is accessible by a harrowing drive across a rudimentary road ploughed in the hillside. "Young people now have a lot of possibilities for the future."

Broccoli and cauliflower can be planted in Greenland from early May, and then harvested in August. In the past, May would be too frosty for growing and anything planted in June would not have enough time to grow.

Hans Gronborg, a Danish horticulturist, described the local cauliflower: "It's small, but it means you get all that flavour concentrated in one-third the size of a regular cauliflower."

He added: "Greenlanders are hunters, and it takes time to change their way of living and being. But I am confident that things can grow in South Greenland."

Alistair Ewan, the managing director of East of Scotland Growers, the UK's largest broccoli producers, said: "As the climate changes, they will be able to grow broccoli. I notice how the climate has changed here and how the growing window is now longer, and its getting longer each year.

"The one thing to watch out for is that while broccoli does like a lot of light, it doesn't want too much. Even some of the long summer days here can give problems, and in Greenland that will be even more of an issue. But if you work hard and cultivate it, it will grow fine."

However, some are doubtful about how far the new agricultural age can go.

Mads Laursen, formerly a manager with a Greenland supermarket chain, said: "It's important to keep it in perspective. They can grow about 80 tonnes of potatoes a year, but that is still only a tenth of the potatoes consumed each year.

"The local potatoes are actually more expensive than the imported ones. That's because there is a well-established infrastructure for transporting food from Denmark to Greenland. It's actually very expensive to transport small quantities of food from a producer in Greenland to markets."

In the 10th century, Greenland was relatively green, with forests and fertile soil, and the Vikings grew crops and raised sheep for hundreds of years. But temperatures dropped precipitously in the so-called Little Ice Age, which began in the 16th century. The Norse settlers died out and agriculture was no longer possible.

The nation's population live in a series of scattered settlements, mostly on the western coast. The capital is Nuuk, with a population of 15,000. Many towns have only about 2,000 inhabitants.

The economy is still dominated by fishing, with exports of fish and prawns being the main earners. However, mineral exploitation is becoming increasingly important as the ice's disappearance clears the way to areas where gold and oil may be extracted.



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  • Last Updated: 03 November 2007 7:39 PM
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1

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04/11/2007 00:47:28
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Spotter,

04/11/2007 01:26:14

probably Kathy

3

MarkInAlpine,

Alpine, Texas 04/11/2007 01:32:56

Atronomers report that Mars climate has been warming up. This proves that there are Martians, driving around in SUVs, living in palatial homes, and flying private jets, as does Algore.

4

brian mcc,

the arctic 04/11/2007 02:13:39

Just imagine that, organic broccili from Greenland cheaper than the green miracle from Denmark. Next season it might be fresh produce in Scotland via Greenland. Just imagine that...

5

DonnyWonny,

USA 04/11/2007 02:22:45

"In the 10th century, Greenland was relatively green, with forests and fertile soil, and the Vikings grew crops and raised sheep for hundreds of years."

I guess England was an arid desert at that time, then. No grazing animals, trees, birds, rivers, fish, towns, and hardly any people? Right?

6

Guga II,

Rockall 04/11/2007 02:34:46

#1 Kathy. Yes, global climate change is cyclical. However, that is not going to stop the government coming out with all the scare stories about global "warming", so that they can steal even more tax money from us.

Anyway, which Lewis are you in? The English town or the Isle of Lewis? If the latter, you'll be aware that there are the odd palm trees that have been growing on the island for many a long year; long before any of the junk scientists even thought about global warming, and even before they were trying to get government money to tell us all about global cooling.

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49th State,

Cooking pop corn in the kitchen 04/11/2007 03:11:07

We've been growing broccolli in Alaska for some time now. My crops do better in some years than in others, but most of the time we get great produce. A new crop we had this year was corn - grown out of doors and in the open. I was only able to grow it in a green house when I first moved here.

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Guga II,

Rockall 04/11/2007 04:08:02

#8 Good on you. Like a number of these republican clones, that Daithi get quite personally offensive at times. Nice to see them getting some pay-back. Keep up the good work.

10

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 04/11/2007 04:35:48

-- there are Martians, driving around in SUVs, living in palatial homes, and flying private jets

Not this one, I don't even own a car though I do have an OK dinghy.

Correction, I did go to Ullapool in a SUV a few weeks back but there were 5 o us so we presume alright.

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Dáithí,

San Jose 04/11/2007 05:58:15

#8 - Suck

> > I am actually 'Suck' McCrunchie.

Fooled us.

> I had a run in with that American Daithi.

Poor you.

> I got tired of the correlation of his being offensive…

Hmm, I don’t remember calling you an idiot in every post because of your nationality.

> … my posts disappearing…

Not me, guess again. Since my posts usually are a response, deleting the source post makes about 25% of mine kinda’ groundless. Couple that with about 25% of mine disappearing (I’m sure you had nothing to do with that), post deletions cost me about 50% wasted effort.

My guess? ‘The Scotsman’ has someone review the comments a few times daily and delete any they find ‘inflammatory’, probably about half the deletions. The rest are by trolls that delete other’s messages because they have nothing to say themselves.

>…and typographical clones of my name.

Now THIS one does not make any sense since I’m the only guy in this whole f’n zoo that uses his real name – as you’ve gone to great lengths to point out!

In fact, I didn’t even notice these clones until YOU pointed it out. From then on I started watching and guess what I saw? YOU, camouflaging in your e-mail addy in your name.

> I like arguing, but if someone shows I am wrong I am happy to take it on board, although appreciate in highly subjective matters its not going to happen.

Ah, common ground! I like learning, and the best way to do that is to have your opinions challenged, then having to find sourced support and defending them. I’m here to learn. I’m here particularly to get Scottish, Irish and Canadian opinion. Most of the rest of them can take a flying leap.

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04/11/2007 06:05:41
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Dáithí,

San Jose 04/11/2007 06:21:57

> So I am posting now using a name he wont clone, and lets say Lewis is another relevant name.

Now your reach is starting to exceed your grasp. Do you know how much fun I could have if you continue dto ‘portray’ my wife? It probably SCREAMS with comedic opportunity! Think of it:

Suck’s dream – to be my wife!
Suck – Idiot American’s love slave!
Suck – it’s time to come service your husband! ;)

Get the point? Give it a rest, it's not a winner for you.

> The daft thing is his arguments were OK if you cut out all the unpleasantness.

McC, is this the REAL problem? An American that has ‘OK arguments’? No more ‘easy pickings’ like 49 States or Taz? Someone that might actually challenge your core stereotype of Americans? Someone that can reasonably (ok, not perfectly) speak to a pro-interventionist, anti-communist, anti-leftist agenda and present his points in a reasonable manner

– not expecting to change ANY hearts and minds, of course!

Oh well, it was worth a shot.

Late. Goodnight.

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Season,

Nepal 04/11/2007 08:03:26

I like it as a far country feriend from nepal but I wish I will get such story continously.

-SEE Jan

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 08:06:49

#1. Kathy Athey

"So is global warming cyclic as many claim?"

Some past climate changes have been - like the many approximately 100,000 year changes from glacial to interglacial and vice versa during the present ice-age. Those changes in climate were initiated by cyclical changes in the Earth's orbit that altered the amount of solar radiation warming the Earth. There appears to be other, smaller cyclical changes of shorter duration evident also, some of which are linked to changes in the sun.

The Medieval Warm Period has not, as far as I am aware, been persuasively linked to cyclical changes.

At present, those cycles, in the absence of human effects, should be causing a very slow cooling of the Earth, leading to a new glaciation in perhaps 16,000 years. The fact that we are instead experiencing very rapid warming is evidence that the present warming is not part of those cycles, but is caused by human actions.

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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for any of them. 04/11/2007 08:24:04

Why do you think it got called Green land in the first place?

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49th State,

heading for the sack 04/11/2007 08:31:08

# 16

Rulesbutnotrulers

It must have been named Greenland to attract colonists.

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jackmick,

scotland 04/11/2007 09:11:10

i spotted tomato plants growing wild down at the seaside in east lothian it is november . ther is somthing going on . are ther benifits from global warming or is this a freak of nature

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 09:20:12

It's no surprise broccolli can grow in Greenland. Yes, it'll be smaller but it'll have so much more of its nutrients locked in.

Did you know you can grow food in water? It's called Hydroponics and we've been experimenting with it since the early 30s.

I'm building my own lab at he back of the house, since the LOML doesn't like the cellars being used. I have four chest freezers linked up with a chemical bath I use to steep my seedlings in so I can grow as many varieties of veggies as I can.

That's what the Greenlanders did ... they experimented. Micro-veggies that have lost none of their flavour are coming ... be prepared. Especially if the water-levels are rising with 'global warming'! :D

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Webbie,

Mullingar, Ireland 04/11/2007 09:39:05

Why the F%^K grow broccoli?
Why not grow something that people like eating?
"We hate global warming but now we can grow broccolli so thats OK then." another plot to stop people protesting

21

Webbie,

Mullingar, Ireland 04/11/2007 10:10:05

BUT WHY BROCCOLLI?

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11+failed,

the pans 04/11/2007 10:19:59

Another good news story about climate change. We can look forward to replacing more tundra with productive land. Perhaps past generations hopes for a North West Passage will be fulfilled for the next generation.

23

Cadgers,

Perth 04/11/2007 10:26:05

#19 Watch yer sel BW. You'll hae Charles doon on ye like a ton of bricks:-))

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Cadgers,

Perth 04/11/2007 10:27:45

#22 Why not broccoli Webbie?

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Cadgers,

Perth 04/11/2007 10:28:58

#10 Why didn't you put a tender in for yon ferry Yok, instead of it going tae Poland?

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bumpkin,

outer space 04/11/2007 10:41:39

its quite worrying when everyone equates global warming with loss of the maldives, barrier reef etc .
The real threat is human starvation accross the globe as traditional crops fail due to unseasonal weather. Wheat stocks have crashed to critical levels as drought and flood take their toll.
Meanwhile, britain is more concerned with birds and lesser spotted newts than ensuring our food security. With food prices already trebled this year, how much will they rise next year?

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 10:50:37

21. Red Etin

You can see the graphs of global temperature since 1860, of which the last 40 years is referred to as 'the present warming', here:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

or

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

and a discussion of the last 1000 years here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_pa...

"The ice caps have been in continuous retreat for the past 11,000 years" - that is not so. There have been some advances during colder periods, but the main point is that the climate (and ice caps) has been relatively stable for the last 10,000 years, during which time human civilisation has arisen. That period of relative climatic stability is now coming to an end due to anthropogenic global warming.

"Cyclical evidence is too variable to suggest that we should be entering a new ice age." not so. The orbital changes in the Earth are well known and predictable.

Are you saying the "new ice-age predicters" of the 1960s/70s had it right, but now we humans have reversed the trend" Yes, more or less, though there is now a far greater understanding of climate than in the 1970s. One of the main papers in the 1970s on this subject was:

JD Hays, J Imbrie and NJ Shackleton, Science, v194, #4270, p1121, 1976/12/10

that stated:

"Having presented evidence that major changes in past climate were associated with variations in the geometry of the earth's orbit, we should be able to predict the trend of future climate. Such forecasts must be qualified in two ways. First, they apply only to the natural component of future climatic trends - and not to anthropogenic effects such as those due to the burn

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Navvy,

04/11/2007 11:42:14

the English "Lewis" is actually Lewes

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 11:42:59

#22. I know what you mean, Webbie ... you should see my daughters' faces when it gets served up to them on a plate. I know they'd prefer a hamburger ... or better yet a pizza ... but broccolli is good for you. Here's a breakdown ...

Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
Energy 30 kcal 140 kJ
Carbohydrates 6.64 g
- Sugars 1.7 g
- Dietary fiber 2.6 g
Fat 0.37 g
Protein 2.82 g
Water 89.30g
Vitamin A equiv. 31 µg 3%
- ß-carotene 361 µg 3%
Thiamin (Vit. B1) 0.071 mg 5%
Riboflavin (Vit. B2) 0.117 mg 8%
Niacin (Vit. B3) 0.639 mg 4%
Pantothenic acid (B5) 0.573 mg 11%
Vitamin B6 0.175 mg 13%
Folate (Vit. B9) 63 µg 16%
Vitamin C 89.2 mg 149%
Calcium 47 mg 5%
Iron 0.73 mg 6%
Magnesium 21 mg 6%
Phosphorus 66 mg 9%
Potassium 316 mg 7%
Zinc 0.41 mg 4%

These are the recommendations for adults.

United States President George H. W. Bush was known to have an active disdain for broccoli, having actually said so in an offhand remark during his presidency. In response, a powerful broccoli agriculture lobby sent several tons of it to the White House.

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 04/11/2007 12:48:24

Boy Wonder

Do you grow your own organic broccoli and cauliflower? I do and this year has been a bumper crop.

The cauliflower is humongous and the broccoli dark, dark green.

Maybe if you drowned the broccoli in cheese sauce your children would eat it.

What EXACTLY are you concocting in your home laboratory - certainly NOT cannibis, one would surmise?.

Come on, BW, tell us ALL the UNVARNISHED TRUTH!

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 13:01:12

#30. Red Etin

"where were the temperatures measured and by what means?"

Those websites give links to the information you ask for.

""The 'imminent ice-age' scare of the 1970s was largely a media concoction" - I don't have confidence that the current AGW scare is not similarly inspired."

Hmm. Well that is telling, because the one thing that should be absolutely abundantly clear to anyone who has taken the trouble to look into the subject of global warming to any extent is that it is NOT a media scare. As well as the IPCC, the National Academies of Science - the highest scientific institutions in the land- in each of the following countries signed a declaration on climate change at the 2005 G8 summit: Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Russia, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK, USA. The declaration stated that "climate change is real" and called for "to take prompt action to reduce the causes of climate change", See:

http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/displaypagedoc.asp?id=20742

As for your final paragraph about temperature proxies: that was the subject of an investigation by the American National Academy of Science National Research Council. Their 155 page report was published in June 2006. The associated press release states, “

“There is sufficient evidence from tree rings, boreholes, retreating glaciers, and other "proxies" of past surface temperatures to say with a high level of confidence that the last few decades of the 20th century were warmer than any comparable period in the last 400 years, according to a new report from the National Research Council. Less confidence can be placed in proxy-based reconstructions of surface temperatures for A.D. 900 to 1600, said the committee that wrote the report, although the available proxy evidence does indicate that many locations were warmer

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 13:03:21

#33. I'm certainly not doing a Suck McCrunchie / Dáithí suicide run in this Forum! I ain't that daft! Keep guessing ... it won't get you anywhere ... but that's life! :)

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 04/11/2007 14:20:44

35 Boy Wonder

It was a rhetorical question.

I am NOT nosy and whatever you do I am SURE it is for the betterment of mankind.

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Maine Diva,

04/11/2007 14:59:09

I would like to Thank James Donald for paying for all the Drinks at he Blue Moon Cafe last night, he is a swell guy.

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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 15:44:50

#37. And that was a rhetorical answer, Tim!! :))

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04/11/2007 17:09:07
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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 17:10:33

#40. Get a grip, Suck!!! There's no way I wanna be in the same room as a good 80% of the whackoes who patronise thise forum! Maybe not even the same planet!! :))

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Let's be honest here,

UK 04/11/2007 17:11:18

40. KATHY A ATHEY

Troll

You have a different variation of the same name each day. Grow up!

40

Let's be honest here,

UK 04/11/2007 17:19:44

8. Kathy Athey, Lewis

"I am actually 'Suck' McCrunchie"

Now it makes sense, just another typical liberal Troll. Go play in traffic instead of disrupting the threads.

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 17:30:27

36. Red Etin

Well you either haven't read or you haven't understood the statement from the twelve national academies of science, because it makes it very clear that the climate change referred to is the present global warming. This is stated explicitly, thus:

"We use the UNFCCC definition of climate change, which is ‘a change of climate which is attributed directly or indirectly to human activity that alters the composition of the global atmosphere and which is in addition to natural climate variability observed over comparable time periods’.

As for your statement, "climate change is real. Always has been, always will be. There is scientific evidence of it." Well your previous post (#30) was questioning the evidence for past climate changes (proxy studies - remember?). Now you are claiming that the evidence from them is unequivocal (It is true; it happens; it is a fact.), whilst denying the evidence for the present global warming.

The actual situation is that the evidence for current global warming is stronger than for past changes, simply because we a studying a current situation - evidence becomes weaker as you go back in time. You contradict yourself.

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 17:40:28

#36. Red Etin

As for your demand for an "unequivocal" demonstration of climate change: that is in effect a demand for proof. Rather than churn out my usual rebuttal (climatology is not geometry etc) may I paste in an elegant reply given by Joe Mulhern, here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/10/did...

"the word “proof” in science is reserved only for logical arguments, and therefore it is used only in the field of mathematics. It is not seen in other areas of science because by its very definition it cannot refer to an empirical argument. Since climatology, physics, meteorology, biology, chemistry, and geology are all experimental sciences, the word “proof” has no meaning in them. The problem is that sceptics will argue that since something cannot be proved, it is therefore wrong. This mentality is a serious misunderstanding of what science is and what it hopes to accomplish."

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04/11/2007 17:46:24
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Boy Wonder,

04/11/2007 18:00:45

#48. Ditto, Jennifer ... ditto!!! :))

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Duchess of Corncobs,

London 04/11/2007 20:10:11

52. KATHY A ATHEY AKA Suck McCrunchie

Trolls like you ruin these threads!

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Duchess of Corncobs,

London 04/11/2007 20:19:40

Suck McCruncrie is going around using the name of another posters wife, what a low life troll. And when you thought things were at an all time low, Guga is praising Suck for doing it. I never had any respect for Suck McCruncie and now I have lost what little respect I had for Guga. I’m going back to the Herald.

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Night_Worker,

st enoch centre 04/11/2007 20:28:09

47 thatscottishwoman

"I have had my user name cloned and numerous posts deleted simply because certain individuals and/or groups of individuals do not agree with my views and opinions"

ive heard its cause you support the worst troll that ever posted on these boards, mines an 80 bob.

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Hector Naismith MacDonald,

Glenbogle 04/11/2007 21:21:05

57. KATHY A ATHEY

Suckie

Get a life troll

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Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 04/11/2007 21:23:18

53. Red Etin

So, according to you, "dubious" sources concerning past climate changes provide "scientific evidence" that demonstrates that it is "true" and a "fact", Whereas the vastly greater and more accurate evidence of present day changes you dismiss is "not evidence" at all. You simply don't make sense.

I agree that 'unequivocal evidence' is not the same as 'proof'. Indeed, many, including the IPCC, claim that the evidence is already unequivocal, though no-one claims that AGW is proven. But I doubt it would make any difference as far as you are concerned, since you dismiss the evidence and claim there is none: a statement completely at odds with reality.

As for the Climateaudit site, it is run by Steve McIntyre, a “semi-retired” Canadian mining executive affiliated to the George C Marshall Institute, an organisation which received $630,000 in funding between 1998 and 2005 from ExxonMobil.

If you prefer to follow the words of a non-climatologist in the pay of big oil, instead the scientific community, that's up to you.

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Guga McCrunchie,

McRockall 04/11/2007 22:41:22

So I got caught trolling, who cares!!!

Suc^k Mc^Cr^unch^ie

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Guga McCrunchie,

McRockall 04/11/2007 22:43:34

50. punkin

I have 2 problems with the site you continue to advertise here. It's boring, and Djookers is involved with it.

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Kipling,

04/11/2007 23:26:03

Is it not unfortunate that the writer of this news story is surnamed Lyall when it is the poster cloners who Lieall. The story doesn't attribute global warming to anything. It does says it's happening. Look at the tragic rise in snail deaths over the summer months. Tell a dying snail that its pain, which involves its little body melting and dehydrating, is due to human and/or cyclical rises in temperature, I don't think it would care less which was the 'more correct' causation factor. ( Ps. snails don't like broccoli any more than they like spinach. They do however like carrots, lettuce & cucumber. So the Greenlanders don't have to worry about snails migrating north, that much. )

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04/11/2007 23:42:21
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Kansas City Kansas,

05/11/2007 00:11:31

64. punkin, USA AKA Sandy

Please stop promoting Djookers site here.

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punkin,

USA .......land of the free home of the brave 05/11/2007 02:34:38

65-re-64

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Ontario 05/11/2007 03:43:39

jennifer and Boy Wonder

It had not occured to me until now how much you two cared about me and followed my every utterance with glee and a microscope.

I am humbled by your attentions and adoration.

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Jacq,

05/11/2007 08:54:20

'Suck' - McCrunchie

Grow up, old boy. Stop littering your personal grudges with Daithi in Scotsman forum. This is not the right place. Use your intelligence to debate and not behave so childish!

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Chuck Schumer,

Brooklyn 05/11/2007 12:41:16

70. hiekkainen

Why are you hiding behind another name? I'm sure the Scotman rightly took down a post from the slime ball promoting a competing site here. It's very unethical to do so, don't you think? Especially a site that was started up by someone who use to cause a lot of trouble here on these boards or "fora" as you under your fake name say

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Jack Murtha,

PA 05/11/2007 12:59:07

70. hiekkainen - Location not true

"You" of all people know Djookers can't be trusted and that is why people should not visit his site. I travel constantly by AmTrak and frequently use various HotSpots and tried his site a few times to see how ethical he would be. No shock to me he was not, you and Finnking were doing very unethical things, that's why I only use hotspots when surfing their site and this site. If anyone is curious about the boring banter go to a public hotspot or use a public libary computer to check out there little site. I have a cheap travel laptop with no personal information I use only for hotspots.

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Perkins-USA,

05/11/2007 15:16:37

#72, Sandy stop trolling here. Go back to Djookers site.

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Perkins-USA,

05/11/2007 15:31:11

71. Jack Murtha, PA

Good point! It must be boring, why else would they be here trolling?

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Support the Scotsman,

05/11/2007 17:18:07

Typical Headlines on Djookers site. As you can see it's very balanced :) It's very Stalinistic.

Why are Bush and Cheney really trying to provoke a war with Iran?

Who will conduct that war? What are the underlying aims.

Is it in the best interest of the US to pursue this action?

Is Bush lying to the American People or is he being used by clever NeoCons in his Administration?

If this is their aim how do we prevent this?

Are these goals being driven by the Israeli's or is Iran driving us into a confrontation by their provocative challenges?

Attacking Iran for Israel?

Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice is at her mushroom-cloud hyperbolic best, and this time Iran is the target.

Rumsfeld flees France fearing arrest

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Troll Police,

05/11/2007 22:10:00

78. hiekkainen, USA

Get a life and stay back on Djookers site, look at the mess you trolls are making of these threads.


 

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