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Published Date: 14 June 2009
CELTIC have finally agreed a deal with West Bromwich Albion that paves the way for Tony Mowbray to become their new manager.
The 45-year-old was given permission to talk to Celtic around lunchtime yesterday and is expected to be formally installed in his post within the next 48 hours. "These are complex but important negotiations and we can assure our supporters that we continue to aim to get the right man for the job in the right way," Celtic chairman John Reid told the club's website in confirming talks with Mowbray.

Both clubs claimed that the stand-off over the £2m buy-out clause in West Brom manager's contract had been concluded to their satisfaction. A statement on the English club's website said the two sides "had agreed in principle a £2m compensation package". Sources at Celtic, meanwhile, expressed their "delight" over the resolution to the issue and the were "happy with what we have done", believed to be a reference to the fact that the actual sum paid for Mowbray could be around £1.5m.

Additional compensation will be required for his assistant Mark Venus and first-team coach Peter Grant. The entire cost to Celtic of the management team, who will join up with coach Neil Lennon to complete the club's backroom staff, is expected to be in the region of £2m.

"We do not want to lose Tony because he has been an integral part of a long-term project at the club which the vast majority of our fans have bought into," said West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace, whose publicly is given the impression his hardline stance of the £2m compensation fee has carried the day. "But Tony expressed his desire to talk to Celtic and, now that the compensation figure in his contract has been met to our satisfaction, that process can take place. If Tony decides to join Celtic, he would leave with our good wishes and we would then immediately."

Celtic have been accused of dragging their heels over progressing their pursuit of Mowbray. Yet, only six days elapsed between them approaching West Brom for permission to speak to him and agreeing compensation for his services. Aberdeen took longer to agree such a figure with Motherwell for Mark McGhee.

Tomorrow will mark three weeks since Gordon Strachan announced he was stepping down. That decision was made public less than 24 hours after the club lost their grip on the championship they had snared for the first three years of his tenure. Initially, Celtic then had Owen Coyle sounded out about filling the vacant position. Having guided Burnley through the play-offs to the English Premier League for the first time in 32 years, Coyle elected to remain loyal to the Lancashire club. Permission to speak to Swansea City's manager Roberto Martinez was then declined over the issue of a compensation sum before Mowbray emerged as clear front runner.

The former Celtic defender, whose wife Amber is expecting the couple's third child within the next fortnight, will be tasked with overseeing a rebirth of his old team. The football played under Strachan, as well as his abrasive personality, turned off many club followers. Mowbray's idealistic approach to free-flowing attacking football, and his passionate, appealing, dignified character will have played well with major shareholder and kingmaker Dermot Desmond and the rest of the Celtic board. They will have recognised that Mowbray possesses the attributes to make himself in to a football faith healer for a largely disaffected support. He will have to do so rapidly with a Champions League qualifier on 26 or 27 July his competitive opener. The draw for the tie will take place a week on Monday with Celtic required to negotiate two rounds against potentially daunting opponents from high ranking nations to reach the group stages.

Mowbray lacks certain key personnel to translate what will be good intentions into good results. It is understood he may return to Albion to address that fact. Already credited with an interest in striker Marc-Antoine Fortune, who was on loan from Nancy for the second half of last season, he could mount a bid for West Brom's 24-year-old Spanish midfielder Borja Valero, pictured, who he signed from Real Mallorca last summer although he may be out of Celtic's price range. Mowbray could favour a 4-2-3-1 formation with Scott Brown sitting in front of Marc Crosas and Valero, if he can be acquired.

With Shunsuke Nakamura, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink and Paul Hartley all likely to go elsewhere having come to the end of their present deals, Mowbray should have slack within the wage bill to redeploy elsewhere. Especially, with top earner Bobo Balde's contract having now expired.

John Park, essentially a talent spotter at Celtic as he was under Mowbray, is known to be keen for Celtic to pursue a move for Barcelona's 35-year-old Brazilian left-back Sylvinho. The full-back position has long been a problem area for the club.

The forward line became of equal concern as neither Vennegoor of Hesselink nor Georgios Samaras, in between injury spells, proved reliable partners for the over-worked Scott McDonald. In an effort to alleviate this situation, Celtic offered £2.2m for Hibs' Steven Fletcher in January. It is highly probable they will revive their interest in a forward who Mowbray was to believed to be interested in taking to West Brom. Only last week, the 22-year-old Scotland internationalist cited his former manager at Easter Road as the biggest influence on his career.

Mowbray is believed to have in the region of between £5m and £7m to spend on transfer fees. Wage costs will expected to be covered with the near £90,000-a-week saving if Balde, Nakamura, Vennegoor of Hesselink and Hartley are off the books. It has been suggested that, as well requiring to win the title, Mowbray will also be expected to reduce the wage bill from its current level of £40m.

Charlie Nicholas: why did it take so long to strike the deal?

FORMER Celtic striker Charlie Nicholas has declared himself happy with Tony Mowbray's imminent return to Glasgow but insists the Parkhead club should have moved to get the deal done last week.

Nicholas said: "I have to say I'm happy with it. Tony is very honest and a very devoted individual.

"But I'm amazed. Why did they not just do it a week ago? Why can't they simply say the most important person at the club is the manager of the playing staff and if the man is available a week ago, it's simple business. Don't muck about, get the business done. Typical Celtic, they have delayed it. But if they have moved it on and got the deal done, I will be happy with Tony, Peter Grant and Mark Venus."

Nicholas added: "The debate will always linger at Celtic, is there a budget for Tony? If you look back at the great Tommy Burns, he was told by Fergus McCann (former Celtic owner] in the past that he had a budget but that changed.

"As long as they are honest with Tony and honest with the fans. They don't need to name a budget, as long as the manager is happy.

"I firmly believe Celtic need five or six players, not to compete with Rangers in the SPL but to play in Europe, where they should be judged.

"There is a lot of work to be done, a lot of financial repair to be made to this team but I'm very happy that Tony is to become manager."

Nicholas, who had two spells at Celtic, is hoping the fans witness a better style of football than former boss Gordon Strachan served up in his four years at Parkhead.

He told Sky Sports: "Gordon didn't play the type of football I would like. The team was bland. He was in denial for a long time saying that they were playing fantastic football when it was clear that the fans were staying away. Tony wants to play a more open and attractive game.

"It doesn't take a great deal of money to purchase players to compete with Rangers for the SPL because we know it (the title race) went to the last game of the season again. Celtic fans want entertainers, big names, but will Tony get the budget?"

Mowbray's reputation for stylish football will be welcomed by fans, according to Peter Rafferty, secretary of the Association of Celtic Supporters' Clubs.

He said: "Tony Mowbray will be a good appointment. He has served a decent apprenticeship in Scotland and England. He is obviously aware of Celtic and he will be well received by the fans.

"Peter Grant will be coming with him and nobody is a bigger Celtic man. Even at West Brom Tony was committed to playing good football and the fans still supported him, and that says a lot when he got the team relegated.

"So we look forward to Celtic playing exciting and entertaining football – but we need to get the balance right.

"We will want to play class football but it is important that we win and when I say win, I mean win trophies."

Ronnie Esplin

The full article contains 1550 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Cammy,

Edinburgh 14/06/2009 00:53:55
Hooray, at last, Celtic grew up and stopped acting like they're more than they are.

They were trying to get Tony to jump ship and save them some cash, but fortunately he has more integrity than the whole Celtic board. Wouldn't it be a laugh if he now turns them down. :-).

Although I hope not, as he will bring some football back to Celtic. He's a good manager and will hopefully have enough time to sort them out before their CL qualifying match.


PS: #Shantaram, Where are you, you big eejit?. You are a tube, a fool, a complete clown. Well you did say we were allowed to (below). I guess I was right after all. :-)

Shantaram's post:

"Back Saturday morning when you can all pat me on the back or rip the bejeezus out of me, as the case may be"
2

Why do I care,

14/06/2009 01:05:15
You have to laugh at Celtic.

Paying way over the going rate for an unknown manager.
3

Why do I care,

14/06/2009 01:17:28
Celtic let Nakamura go as he is "just going to join a wee team in Japan, and no need for compensation".


Going to Spain....


The financial wizards at CP are left holding the donkey (again)
4

Why do I care,

14/06/2009 01:18:50
Maybe Celtic will have to play against him in the funny named Euro thing that they have to qualify in, or something
5

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/06/2009 01:50:13
Why do I care?

I don't!!! But I know why you do.

You will still be celebrating this year's title next June.
6

viking nz,

newzealand 14/06/2009 02:49:42
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
7

celticdaft,

14/06/2009 04:25:24
Shantaram... where are you ? Need an explanation here.


Why do i care... you care a lot considering the number of posts.
8

Bistro Lacker,

London 14/06/2009 05:08:41
Was wondering why Celtic went for Mowbray until I relised he's a Championship manager inheriting a Championship calibre of players.
9

OLD GIN,

METHIL LEVEN 14/06/2009 07:23:51
ABOUT TIME THE TIN WAS OPENED AND THE ££££ SPENT, NOW ALL WE NEED IS A CLEAR OUT
10

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 14/06/2009 07:44:45
Will they all be celebrating next year when they are in the bottom six.He still reckons players have done a good job even when they get stuffed.Roll on the new season,it will be good for a laugh
11

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14/06/2009 07:53:16
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Celtic Forever,

Manchester riots shamed Scotland 14/06/2009 08:29:23
It never ceases to amaze me how the great govan unwashed are so obsessed by all things Celtic. The jealousy of Celtic is clear for all to see but it is the obsessive compulsion to demonstrate their own self-loathing and stupidity which amazes me.

You would think that being cr*p, skint and hated by everyone outside of their own troll brethren would sink in eventually.

Goodbye Gordon, welcome Tony Mowbray.

Order will be resumed next season, Celtic will dominate Scottish Football and rankgers will remind everyone why their theme song is so apt...no-one likes us, we don't care...aye you care alright!
13

NewChum,

Fat-Al Promises To Be FATAL !!! 14/06/2009 08:29:49


Whilst Scotlands True Champions Celtic have big Ton waiting in the wings,Rearrangerz the security of Fat-Al.

Fat-Al.....the Rearrangerz cup games manager.
14

Media at One,

14/06/2009 08:33:49
So the most famous club in the history of Scottish Football have just signed the worst manager in the English Premier League?
A relegated manager has just become the new manager of one of the most celebrated clubs in world football.
What the f@@% is going on here?
15

NewChum,

Fat-Al Promises To Be FATAL !!! 14/06/2009 08:34:08
See because Fat-Al is Rearrangerz cup games manager,does that mean that "Walter" will be relegated to a bit piece actor in Europe again?

Or was it "Walter" who was responsible for FBK Tiddlers Kaunus.

16

NewChum,

14/06/2009 08:39:40
Just as it would be preferable that Boydthebench and Davis should go whilst RedCard,Pedro Pedromendes,BasketBall,CheatzLaugherty and Edu should all stay,then it is just as comforting to know that "Walter" and Fat-Al will be scrapping like to ferrets in a sack to see who assumes managerial control.
17

Media at One,

14/06/2009 08:43:04
It appears that to become the Celtic manager all you need to do is fail miserably and get relegated.
What happened to earning the role of manager at a great club like Celtic?
18

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14/06/2009 08:46:34
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Billericay Baggie,

Billericay 14/06/2009 09:03:08
When it came to the true test of keeping us in the Prem and having spent £24 million of the clubs money the guy came up well short. His stubborn attitude was in marked contrast to the experience shown at other clubs like Stoke and Hull. Ask Norwich fans what they think of Peter Grant and his coaching abilities- how can a manager who was a rock when playing for Boro not see and rectify such obvious defensive shortfalls. When you strip away Tony's past you have a humble guy who plays pretty football without a killer instinct. I thought Mr Reid was going to get the best man, with a proven track record - take the rose tinted specs off and ask what managerial set up have you spent a lot of valuable money on?
20

NewChum,

14/06/2009 09:09:08
#18 CheatzLaughertysMullet


But Boyd is regularly on the Rearrangerz bench.

And CheatzLaugherty was proven to be a cheat whilst benefitting Rearrangerz league effort.
In fact CheatzLaughertys cheating "won" Rearrangerz that tainted league title.
No one disputes that.


As for your religious references,I`ll leave that subject to you and I`ll give it a wide berth if you dont mind.

But why you chose to bring religion into this says far more about your own mind set.
Doesn`t it.
21

Rouleur,

14/06/2009 09:15:33
Ha ha! Spent all week reading posts by Shantarse I am et al proclaiming Mowbray was a smoke screen and that the true target would be unveiled on Friday. Or that Erratic FC were entitled to conduct a PR disaster because they didn't own WBA a cent. Well I am pishing myself now!

Erratic Fc have a qualifier quickly approaching, losing some key players aswell...will Mogga be able to avoid a repeat of the Artmedia trashing away from home??

Two in a row coming your way!
22

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14/06/2009 09:19:51
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 09:21:06
#20 still smarting from your capitulation in the league with seven point advantage? Must really really hurt and to compound matters Mogga is your new leader.....he's worth every penny prised out of the biscuit tin.

Two in a row coming your way!
24

Rouleur,

14/06/2009 09:23:19
Right it is a brahmer of a day here so I'm off to ride my bike....adiós amigos and enjoy your sunday!
25

Nod,

14/06/2009 09:33:22
Shantaram were are you....you were correct....tony mowbray is 2nd choice. well done you clown
26

NewChum,

Fat-Al Promises To Be FATAL !!! 14/06/2009 09:40:47
#22 CheatzLaughertysMullet.

Talk fuwkin sense.

You started the religious talk now accuse me of being sanctimonious!

So just to clarify how you view your own religious beliefs.....just what was in any way religious about ANYTHING in my posts 13,15,16 that you refered to?

Lets just see where you`re coming from.
27

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14/06/2009 09:41:13
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Abe Fruman,

14/06/2009 09:54:04
Didn't he manage a Hibs team that won 3-0 at Ibronx TWICE in one season? Pretty good credentials if you ask me.
29

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14/06/2009 09:58:21
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NewChum,

Fat-Al Promises To Be FATAL !!! 14/06/2009 10:00:20
So the Rearrangerz hordez are on complaining that Scotlands True Champions "only" paid £2 million for big Ton.

How much in cash terms did shrewd Davie-boy pay for "Walters" replacement, Fat-Al?

All lined up.
All done and dusted.
No consultation.
No choice.

But above all.......NO COST !!

Good ol` Davie-boy.
He knowz just how to keep his hordez in their bit.
Not half.
31

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14/06/2009 10:09:10
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Abe Fruman,

14/06/2009 10:12:13
#29

No.
33

Abe Fruman,

14/06/2009 10:13:20
#29

Why would you play in intertoto if in Uefa Cup? Feejit.
34

1NRO,

14/06/2009 10:14:23
Mark McGee tae replace him by January ...
35

NewChum,

14/06/2009 10:15:07
His answer was so ridiculously laughable that it stuck in my memory.

After big Tons first thrashing of Rearrangerz, big Eck was interviewed on the telly.

When questioned on the goals scored big Eck said....it was a breakaway,we were pressing at the time(words to that effect).

The interviewer then said,but Alex....they scored three(3).

Big Ton contributed as much to the PLG Moonbeam as anyone.
36

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14/06/2009 10:24:01
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NewChum,

Fat-Al Promises To Be FATAL !!! 14/06/2009 10:30:46
But bthis was the coup de grace.....

...the interviewer continued,are you saying they were three(3) breakaways ?!


Yes !! said big Eck The Neck.


Big Ton was instrumental in Davie-boys brilliant PLG Moonbeam.

And Fat-Al Promises To Be Just As Brilliant.
Doesn`t he.

38

Cammy,

14/06/2009 10:47:25
#38, No..., what #Shantaram actually did is rubbish other people's comments as stupid and claimed he had a source with the real inside story.

He also invited his ridicule and so we're just taking him up on his offer. :-)
39

common sense voice,

14/06/2009 12:29:42
30, 35/37.. you seem to be an odd fellow, maybe a wee trip to the Dr. may help you. Calm yourself now.
40

sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 12:36:38
what is funny is the typical negative spin put on this...celtic pursue mowbray for 10 days..agree compensation (which in mre reliable accounts suggest was a compromised amount)..and yet according to the monkey media its taken an ages..and when celtic were holding out to get a better deal they are mean..and then when they agree compensation they are stupid for paying up..d'oh...i supose we could have taken 10 days after tapping up a manager then getting the manager to resign to try and avoid paying any compensation..but hey thats the rangers way..x
41

I-Mac,

14/06/2009 12:48:53
#42, WBA have used the £2m compensation figure (with additional money for Grant and Venus) on their official website. Meanwhile this article insinuates the "fact"(?) that "the actual sum paid for Mowbray could be around £1.5m" - based on "sources at Celtic". Is that your "monkey media"?
42

Master of conspiracies,

Out to get you 14/06/2009 12:53:15
What a laugh about Idee Prixee (or whatever he's calling himself today) commenting about Rangers fans being obsessed with Celtic. More often than not, he's the first to comment on a Rangers story. Yeah, Prixee. I take it you're going to win the title next season, just like you were the season gone past? Besides, what has Mowbray won in his managerial career? Answers on the back of a postage stamp please.
43

Private Pike,

14/06/2009 12:55:38
thegersfan

The Peace Cup.

Objective include:

"We aim to ease the suffering of poverty, disease and conflict by creating hope throuigh providing opportunities to dream of a brighter future."

According to you, Rangers knocked back an invitation to participate because they wouldn't make any money.

Aren't Rangers a truly great club.
44

I-Mac,

14/06/2009 12:59:17
The Peace Cup? It is organized by the Sunmoon Peace Football Foundation, which is connected to Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. [Insert obvious joke about religious loonies here.]
45

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14/06/2009 13:01:16
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Failed Secular,

14/06/2009 13:02:25
44: how's that "quad" coming on? Did yous get it?
47

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 13:03:01
46

Moonies, Loonies, Idee's.
48

Failed Secular,

14/06/2009 13:04:16
I-Mac, 43:

it's really quaint to see someone who appears to believe what he reads in the papers. Sensible people know only fools believe that guff. LOL!
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14/06/2009 13:06:07
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14/06/2009 13:07:20
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 13:08:01
#43 i did sat releiable sources which rules out most of the junk in this tabloid wannabe..
out of interest what would you have done..(ok i know at rangers morality doesnt come into it..) but would you have paid what you were asked immediately or would you have tried to negotiate a compromise price
52

I-Mac,

14/06/2009 13:08:23
"it's really quaint to see someone who appears to believe what he reads in the papers." (#50)

Is it? Good for you. Not sure what relevance it has to me, but as long as you're happy.... :0)
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I-Mac,

14/06/2009 13:11:29
"out of interest what would you have done..(ok i know at rangers morality doesnt come into it..) but would you have paid what you were asked immediately or would you have tried to negotiate a compromise price" (#53)

The latter. But you seem to have completely missed my point. Where's the "negative spin" you allege at #42 when this article suggests based on "sources at Celtic" that Celtic actually paid less compensation than the figure WBA put on their official website?
54

sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 13:15:02
"stump up" "finally"..and all of wee charliesa chip on the shoulder rant...
but i was talking wider than this rag..
55

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 13:38:16
57

Pundit could be Barnes was in the wilderness because he is a rubbish manager. Yes he was a good player.
56

Private Pike,

14/06/2009 13:54:17
More unsubstantiated "facts". Come on you can let me know. You obviously know how much Hibs donated to Charity last season. Before you get completely carried away praising Rangers charitable adventures please bear in mind that if Barry Ferguson gave money to charity it would have been on the advice of his accountant with a view to reducing his tax bill.

Incidently, if Rangers did receive an invitation for the Peace Cup and knocked it back. What was their given reason?
57

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 14:11:28
What side has taken the place of Celtic in the Peace (moonies)Cup?
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:11:55
interesting "Chance to play in Peace Cup excited me more than cash prize on offer, says Rangers boss Walter Smith"
Feb 22 2009

59

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 14:12:34
64

Fear?

Why?
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:12:51
#63 no one has replaced celtic yet..
61

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 14:14:44
68

Cheers.

I had thought the dates would conflict with the CL qualifiers?

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Dode415,

14/06/2009 14:15:54
I've got a lot of timw for Mowbray and his views on how the game should be played. He does however seem to have a big problem with consistency with the teams he's managed where there have been some stunning performances followed by some dross with the main issue being arond his ability to get a defence to defend. In the SPL this may not be such an issue given the big financial gap between Celtic / Rangers and the rest but when it come to European competition there is every chance Celtic will get absolutely hammered sooner rather than later.
63

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 14:17:10
When is the draw for the CL qualifiers?
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:19:32
#72 a week on monday...what would you do without me
65

Daillyman,

14/06/2009 14:21:33
74

Thanks sonofcosmos. I was just to lazy to check the EUFA website.

It is Sunday morning.
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:24:15
#76 regarding my understanding of the peace cup the reason only the winners could compete is due to the clash with the cl qualifiers...however..it is a sunday morning so i will not make any capital out of it..it was celtic only..hence rangers not playing in it
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 14:33:37
Who will be axed first by Mogga? A major overhaul will be required at CP if a serious challenge is tae be made tae the Champions next year ...
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:35:46
#81 footballs a funny game..sometimes a new manger inspires something from a player that seemed lost..so we will wait and see....actually looking forward to the football as most comments on the wba messageboards are pretty positive about mowbray and his style of football..
69

Media at One,

14/06/2009 14:36:25
I am shocked and stunned that Celtic are hiring a manager who just got his team relegated by finishing LAST! Not second last, not third last - BUT LAST!
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:41:32
#83 i am shocked and stunned that you would imagine anyone would care what you think x
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 14:44:10
sonofbitch

True - But Celtic are the most celebrated club in the history of Scottish football, so there can be no excuse for hiring an obvious failure.
72

1NRO,

14/06/2009 14:45:13
82
I think that McGeady, Boruc and Brown will be sold in order tae raise funds for new players ... others like Samaras, Naylor, Crosas, VOH and Loovens will not suddenly become hero's ... and with Hartley on the way out along with Nakamura ... Mogga has a huge job on his hands and if he fails tae get the right players in then Hearts could be Rangers main challengers next season ...
73

1NRO,

14/06/2009 14:46:53
87
Who has won the most titles and trophies again?
74

sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 14:49:56
#88 most fans were starting to see loovens worth when he had a run in the team..crosas has plenty to offer and you dont know how others will respond to a new manager..good thing is we will soon find out..
#87 Zzzzzzzzzzz x
75

Shape to Shoot,

14/06/2009 14:51:37
Chris Killen hardlmy got a chance at Celtic. Venegoor and McDonald were fit most of last season and then Samaras came in during January. Killen never got a run ....I think he's lucky if he ever got as many as half a dozen starts and I don't think he ever had more than 2 in a row...and he did score a vital goal against Gretna !

If he goes, I won't lose any sleep, but if mowbray thinks he can get him playing well, I'd be happy to give him another season.

I'm looking forward to a new start for Celtic. I don't imagine that Mowbray will have much if any interest in retaining Neil Lennon, but he's had a decent 18 months in the dug out and he's completed all his coaching badges. Mabey it's as much in his interests that he moves on now and gets started in a managerial position ....I've read that WBA are sounding out Derek Macinness to replace Mowbray and Saint Johntson is a job that Lennon should be aiming for just now.

Our squad is in decent shape for Mowbray to begin with : he needs only a left back and two strikers and that will be enough to get the team going. He's not inheriting the disaster that Strachan did...far from it.
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 14:52:02
90
I would be a bit more put out if I were a WBA player or fan after Mogga begging his players tae stick with him at Albion and push for promotion again next season ... only tae jump ship ...
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 15:04:28
#94..i know the only thing worse than a manager walking out on a club must be one that walks out on his country !!!
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Shape to Shoot,

14/06/2009 15:10:38
The article puts Celtic's wage bill at £40m but it's actually a good bit less than that....it came in at £39m last season but the team got bonuses for reaching the last 16 and winning the title which pushed the bill up by at least £5m ....that being so the wage bill is more likely to be a bit below £35.
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Shape to Shoot,

14/06/2009 15:11:12
97

Not walter smith , and rengers in general.
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 15:29:46
Celtic are in big trouble and Mogga better start waving his magic wand asap ... if Hearts get a decent striker then they could well be the nearest challengers tae the Champions next term ...
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 15:34:06
#103...no one is biting..i believe the last time hearts made it to second it was your own team who finished third...(3rd in a two team league thats pretty bad )
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 15:36:31
104
It is on the cards for next year as Celtic are in a poor state ... Hearts are only a good striker away from a challenge under Laslo ... that's a fact ... I would be worried if I were you ...
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 15:46:52
How long will it be before our minority driven media start with the outlandish claims of summer targets at PH? Like Pavelachenko or Deco from last year ... who will it be this year ... Ibrahimoviz or Drogba maybe?
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 15:47:20
#105 oops thats right rangers are in such a strong state...20 players to cope with the cl and spl hahaha x
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1NRO,

14/06/2009 15:51:56
107
Rangers have great quality and a very strong crop of youths that can make the step up if needed ... Celtic will struggle next year as they try and replace Nakamura and they will need about at least 6 quality players ...
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sonofcosmos,

14/06/2009 16:11:41
#108..ok ill resist the temptation to laugh again..as i say we shall soon find out....x
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tomislav,

Serbian Loyal RSC 14/06/2009 16:52:14
Ho Ho Ho, we heard you lot droning on last year about "4 in a row", as it turned out the only 4 in a row you got were the ones we skepled into you at the pigsty ,,,,, great, wasn’t it ,,,, now you "Mickey Mouse" over paying the going rate for your new circus trainer,,,, I can just picture your board all sitting intently watching the guy with a butter knife trying to get the money out of the tin, then a melee all over the floor to catch the coppers ,,, You think steak ,,, but eat mince
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14/06/2009 16:54:55
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14/06/2009 17:04:49
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:06:51
The fear from Rangers fans is almost tangible.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:07:44
108 - Don't stop taking the pills.
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 17:31:25
In a country in which only one out of two clubs are going to win the title it is essential that the manager is a winner. Celtic are chasing Rangers, they need to close the title gap and I believe that Strachan could have done it. Celtic Football Club are world renowned and therefore, its essential that they hire a winner to manage the club. Now dont get me wrong, I am not suggesting that Mowbry becomes a winner by winning an English League Cup, FA Cup or title, but he could have shown himself to be a winner by at least keeping WBA up. He didnt just fail in that regard, he failed spectacularly. How any relegated manager, let alone one who finished STONE LAST can get the job of managing the mighty Celtic is beyond me.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:34:23
117 - Who or what is Erratic FC? Which league do they play in?

I can see you are fearful by the defensive tone of your response. Thank you.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:40:03
116 - Can you answer the following questions please.

Who is Mowbry?

For which manager is it "essential" to win the title?

Why do Celtic "need" to close the title gap?

Is David Moyes a winner?

Is Craig Levein a winner?

What is stone last?

What made you believe Gordon Strachan didn't close the title gap? When he clearly did.

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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 17:44:40
118....funny how you can misconstrue feelings of mirth with fear....maybe that smell of fear is emanating from your own pantaloons....certainly those are the feelings I would have if Mogga was appointed Rangers' new manager.

Two in a row....coming your way!
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:49:19
120 - Your continue denial only serves to fuel my suspicions. You are fearful.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:50:23
120 - I don't possess pantaloons.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:51:07
120 - Worry is a terrible thing. It is only a game.
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 17:52:46
121-nope....still laughing! However you seem like an Erratic FC fan living in a constant state of denial. I can only imagine your moniker refers to who you are visiting to get through this painful time.
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 17:55:07
122-no doubt discarded due to their odiferous state
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:56:07
123 - Can you answer the following questions.

Who is Mowbry?

What position is lowest of the log in your eyes? In English football it's 92nd.

What greed forced Gordon Strachan out? Please expand and explain.

When did I say Mowbray was the right man for the job?

What has David Moyes ever won?

So you agree Gordon Strachan did close the gap, will you therefore retract your earlier comment that "Gordon Strachan should have closed the gap"?

What proof do you have that Gordon Strachan would have won many more titles? How can you prove the future?

Answers please.
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 17:57:52
124-I see the therapy is working with that pearl of wisdom. Remember 2nd place meant Erratic FC were the best of the rest....well done!
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:58:28
126 - I never have possessed pantaloons. Do you have some sort of fettish (sp) with men's soiled pantaloons? Is it your thing? If so, then I suggest you move on to another website. This one is about football.

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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 17:59:53
125 - What is Erratic FC?
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:00:44
128 - Don't let your fear grip you.
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 18:01:29
Shrink -

Dont so ridiculously stupid!

Who is Mowbry - He is the manager who finished last in the Premiership season 08/09.
What greed forced Strachan out - The greed that thought 3 out of 4 titles wasnt good enough.
David Moyes - He has WON the right to manage in the Premiership time and time again, something Mowbry didnt do.
What proof do I have that Strachan would have won more titles - Are you for real? The man was brilliant.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:05:56
132

Do you mean Mowbray?

When did greed start to think?

How many rights have Rangers FC won in their history?

Do you get any medals or trophies for winning "rights"?

What proof do you have that Gordon Strachan would have won many more titles? Albert Einstein was also brilliant and he never won any football trophies.

In answer to your question. Yes I am for real.

I have answered your question now please answer mine.
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 18:06:19
129-hmm if you didn't own them, I can only imagine you borrowed them....rental agreement with your mother?

130-your shrink is very good....!

131-the only thing gripping me are waves of joy basking in our glorious league title triumph
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:06:57
132

Can you please reiterate your first line of post 132? Currently it reads as nonsense.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:10:32
134 - I have never worn pantaloons. It is a strange fixation you have with this garment. Stranger still that you bring a dead person into the discussion.

I don't have a shrink. Can you answer the question. Who or what are Erratic FC?

"Gripped by waves of joy basking in our glorious league title triumph" So do you support Celtic FC?
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 18:16:37
136-yup you really are a deluded fellow...if you haven't worked out who are the SPL Champions then you really do need help.

Taxi for SuBo!
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london calling,

52 and counting 14/06/2009 18:21:39
Hello Shrink...


How are the Intelligentsia today..?

Erratic Fc , well my guess is they play near Kerrydale Street..

You would seem a tad flustered today , but hey ho I'm no trick cyclist..

Away and have a wee lie down , works for me..


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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:22:19
137 - I haven't tried working out who the SPL Champions are because their is no working out to do. It's Rangers FC.

I am asking you if you are Celtic FC fan?

Is it too hard for you to answer?

Delusional? I am not the one "gripped by waves of joy" "basking in glory" about some hollow victory. I am also not the one who is seemingly unable to answer questions about my own posts. So who or what are Erratic FC?
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 18:25:25
Shrink - I think you may need one!

Of all the managers in the Premiership 2008/2009 Mowbry finished last - It really is that simple!
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:25:41
138 - Good afternoon.

Where is Kerrydale St?

Why do you guess Erratic FC play there? Do you know who Erratic FC are?

I am not flustered in the slightest. I am however curious to know what trick cycling has to do with it.

I am pleased you have found something that works for you.
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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:27:29
140 - Can you please answer the following questions.

Who is Mowbry?

Which premiership are you referring to?

Why do you think I need a shrink when I can answer all the questions posed at me yet you cannot?

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The Shrink,

14/06/2009 18:31:25
Sorry have to go. You are all too slow thinking up your answers.

Goodbye.
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london calling,

14/06/2009 18:34:41
141

Iam so disappointed you being of the Intelligentsia and all..

Afternoon finishes at 17.00hrs.

Try again with your introduction...

Did you see what I did there , only what you do to posters you think you can bully..

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Media at One,

14/06/2009 18:35:04
Now that we have settled that!
I wonder what the motivation to hire Mowbry was? If you are sitting around the board room table discussing a possible manager, why would you enter into a discussion about a manager who just got his side relegated?
Surely the men who made this decision looked at the EPL table and noticed that Mowbry didnt just get relegated, he came absolutely stone last in the EPL. Surely that rules him out? Apparently not!
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Rouleur,

14/06/2009 18:37:46
139-As you believe I am basking in a hollow victory I think that answers one of your questions.

As for your other question re Erratic FC....here's a clue...they finished second in the SPL and they have just appointed Mogga.

Taxi for Subo
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 18:39:57
London

That Shrink thing is new - Never seen his name before!
I have been reading his posts and I believe we are dealing with an adult who is perhaps suffering from some form of mental ailment - Please note that I do not mean that in a derogatory sense. I think he is probably trying to add value but can't due to his inability to communicate with us.

In terms of Mowbry, he just got his team relegated!
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Media at One,

14/06/2009 18:44:35
I also believe that Mowbry had a duty to turn the job down - Alan Shearer is another manager who should have walked away for the good of the club.
Mowbry no doubt is ecstatic about the new job, but surely he needs to engage his brain and ask how he plans to manage Celtic when he could not keep WBA up.
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london calling,

14/06/2009 18:44:59
147

I understand sir , care in the community and computers.

He was on yesterday picking up on spelling and punctuation inbetween venting his bile...
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Shape to Shoot,

14/06/2009 20:23:54
There doesn't seem to be any great controversy amongst EPL pundits as regards why WBA went down...the consensus seems to be that mowbray set out his stall to play open attacking football, but his defence wasn't good enough especially as it was up against some of the best striking forces on the planet.

The difference in the spl is that, with Sylvinho signed, our defences of Hinkel, Caldwell, Loovens and Sylvinho will be better than the defence he had at WBA , and, he'll be playing against far inferior teams.

In other words, defensively you don't need to be nearly as good in the spl as is the case in the EPL....neither kris boyd nor kenny miller would get a game for any EPL side....wouldn't even make the bench. The only two strikers in Scotland that might attract EPL attention are Stephen Fletcher and Scot McDonald because apart from everything else, they score goals in the big games....but even then, it would only be bottom half EPL and neither of them would walk into a starting position...both would have to work their way in with every possibility that they might never make it.

That is the standard of striker in Scotland : there are 2 who might just make it with a bottom half EPL club.
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Dún Aenghus,

14/06/2009 20:54:39
Its hard to play against a bad team.
The players hing on to yer legs.
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adam murray,

Windmillhill 14/06/2009 21:08:27
Could I please ask a question of the supporters of the second prize merchants on here If Peter the Pointer arrives back in the East End,what happens to poor old Lenny the victim
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Dún Aenghus,

14/06/2009 21:14:18
#152 Shut up Diarrhea Dick! lol!
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adam murray,

Windmillhill 14/06/2009 21:21:38
153-a very reasoned and well constructed reply to a genuine question
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Dún Aenghus,

14/06/2009 21:26:51
#154 Good enough for you,yellow @rse Jim.
"A genuine question" in your twisted mind only.
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adam murray,

Windmillhill 14/06/2009 21:40:00
155 Listen Gaelic Bhoy-I post here under one name and one name only If Peter the Pointer comes back I would really like to know if you lot think there will be a conflict(in the football sense) with that other world famous coach Lenny the victim Come on now Bhoys what do you think will there be a revolution if Lenny is dumped?
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Kirrie_Tim,

14/06/2009 21:42:34
157

If Ye Cannae/Figgy/davesmith1/Como Toes/educator/Wullie Anderson/Ferians/adam murray/ShropshireBear/W Anderson/JackJ/HeyPally/Yellow Jim/Stanley/Large John Lent et al

Course you do.

Here, I've devised a new game called postcode chicken. Want to play?
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adam murray,

Windmillhill 14/06/2009 21:51:37
Sorry Bhoys you are barking up the wrong tree here In as much as you dont seem to be prepared to answer the question am I to assume it will be jackets off in the car park with Peter slugging it out with Neil No bets taken as to who will get second prize(just like in Letterkenny recently)
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Shape to Shoot,

14/06/2009 21:55:45
A revolution if lenny is dumped ? It's par for the course these days that when the manager cdeparts , so do the coaching staff.
It is quite unusual for any of the coaching staff to stay on and so we must expect that Lennon's contract will not be renewed.

Mowbray has his own coaching staff and it appears that he wants to bring them with him....after all, we're not building the management around Neil Lennon.

Lennon has been a fantastic servant to the club. I think he would benefit now from hgoing into management , and if we can get 5 years from Mowbray, Lenny should by then have served his apprenticeship and be ready to take up the reins.
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Kirrie_Tim,

14/06/2009 21:56:16
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If Ye Cannae/Figgy/davesmith1/Como Toes/educator/Wullie Anderson/Ferians/adam murray/ShropshireBear/W Anderson/JackJ/HeyPally/Yellow Jim/Stanley/Large John Lent et al

Postcode chicken? Puck puck puck puck-AHK.

Say the word and I'll tell ya the rules.
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Kirrie_Tim,

14/06/2009 22:04:45
163
Fr. Unctious

I can only play with those who I may know what their postcode is. That's what makes it fun.

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Kirrie_Tim,

14/06/2009 22:13:42
165
Fr. Unctious

But didnt you steal that Golden Cleric award?

In any case, I'd never publish what I think the postcode might be unless the chicken steps up to the plate. Puck puck etc.
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adam murray,

Windmillhill 14/06/2009 22:19:47
Never worn Burberry in my life Bhoys You really should get a life if you think I spend hours on here posting under different namesAt least 161 gave some sort of answer PP was a "hero" you know the sort blessing himself when the ball went in at the Broomloan end Neilly Bhoy is a hero for spitting on a Rangers scarf at the Rangers end So there is an obvious conflict of interest here Which Bhold hero will it be?
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Kirrie_Tim,

14/06/2009 22:21:39
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If Ye Cannae/Figgy/davesmith1/Como Toes/educator/Wullie Anderson/Ferians/adam murray/ShropshireBear/W Anderson/JackJ/HeyPally/Yellow Jim/Stanley/Large John Lent et al

I feelike chicken tonite, like chicken tonite
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Billericay Baggie,

Billericay 15/06/2009 00:55:23
Melton can f--k eff and can take his servile crep with him. Thanks for the memory of leaving Wembley twice and not scoring a goal. Youve been mugged by a shrewd operater in Mr Peace.
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wuggles,

Glasgow 15/06/2009 11:22:32
Pray tell timothy.What has TM actually won in his managerial career?

The again, It's not like sellik to talk up numpties.

How many 'wonder' kid have played for you, and never actually made the grade.

I welcome the trouble coming to your club if Peter the Pointer and Neil Lemmon remain on the staff.
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Bemused and above it all,

16/06/2009 23:21:45
I was going to comment but read the usual suspects and their poisonous postings.

few facts.

1. Manchester Riots shemed Scotland? Yes they did, but not as much as systematic child abuse. Why is it okay to raise one point but not the other?

2. We are not sectarian, its Rangers fans who are. Yes as much as the idiots who used to sing 'we are not sectarian we are the u..' at ibrox. FFS, have a look at yourselves.

3. Rangers WON the league last season, have WON the league MORE times than ANY other club in the WORLD. so whats with all the 'true champions' nonsense, just show how bitter you are.

4. Mowbray, will be interesting, has potential to either be a dream or a disaster, fortunately, he has never seemed able to get a defence organised, strange for a former defender, good at midfield & upfront but its the defence which has always let him down.

Im staying clear til the kick off of the new season (league, not umpteenth qualifiers) hopefully when I return folk will have grown up.

 

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