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MoD to spend £5m on actors



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Published Date: 09 March 2008
MEET the gang 'cos the boys are here, the boys to diversity train you.
Defence chiefs have caused widespread outrage with plans to spend £5m on actors to help spread the message of tolerance throughout the armed forces.

The 2008 version of It Ain't Half Hot Mum will visit military bases throughout the UK and abroad,
performing self-penned sketches and plays on the theme of "equality and diversity".

But as evidence of over-stretch and under-equipping of British forces mounts, the move has been widely condemned by politicians and military insiders as a ridiculous waste of money.

Tragic losses blamed on equipment shortages include the death in Basra in 2003 of tank commander Sgt Steven Roberts, who handed over his body armour to a colleague shortly before he was shot. In 2006, the death in Afghanistan of paratrooper Captain James Philippson was partially blamed on shortages of night vision equipment and machine guns.

Despite the controversy, documents seen by Scotland on Sunday reveal the MoD has invited firms to bid for a contract worth up to £5m to provide "drama-based interventions" – sketches and plays – for equality and diversity training.

The team will put on between 12 and 52 events annually, each lasting between half a day and a day, beginning at the end of this year and running until 2011. Bases in Germany, Cyprus and Gibraltar are among the overseas destinations listed in the tender documents.

An MoD spokesman said: "They will be performing sketches and role-plays. The role-playing will involve getting members of the audience to come on stage and take part and help illustrate the points in the training. Studies have shown that drama and role-playing are very effective in communicating these kinds of messages and they work very well."

In an apparent reference to hecklers, the tender document adds that the actors should have "the flexibility to cater for a number of ad hoc interventions".

Dr Rachel Woodward, a researcher on military issues at Newcastle University, who has investigated attitudes to equality in the armed forces, said: "Several studies have shown that the armed forces do have problems which they have to deal with in terms of cultural attitudes, and to their credit they are recognising that. This is a very interesting and progressive move by them."

Douglas Young, chairman of the British Armed Forces Federation, said: "Equality and diversity are very important, especially at a time when the armed forces have problems with retention and really need everyone who is willing to serve.

"But we would question this use of £5m.Whoever decided this should really think again. This £5m will have to come out of an increasingly hard-pressed military budget, and when our forces are so stretched, many in the audiences will think that this money could have been much better spent."

Shadow secretary for defence, Dr Liam Fox, said: "With soldiers dying from lack of basic kit, spending £5m on a programme like this is outrageous. For the sake of our brave service members and their families, I think the MoD needs to seriously reconsider its priorities."

Clive Fairweather, former deputy commander of the SAS, said: "I have never heard of anything as ridiculous in my life, and I say this as someone who delivers training on equality and diversity, as well as being a former soldier. They could have had me for £50 a week.

"Equality and diversity training is important, but the rest of us can manage with an overhead projector. And the money for this is not coming out of a bottomless pit."

Two Scots who write comedy and sketches themselves, said the task would be a challenge.

Joyce Falconer, River City actress and comedian, said: "I have been involved in running role-play events for health services and for mental health care, and it can be very useful and effective at defusing aggression. But this would be a different kind of thing altogether. I don't know how you would communicate that kind of thing to squaddies."

Comedian and actor Patrick Wight said: "I would like to give it a go, but I would want to use humour to make it livelier while they would probably insist on doing this in a straight-laced way.

"But I think this is a completely bizarre idea. I don't see what's wrong with just telling them the rules and making it clear. I can't see this working."

'Soldiers' attract uniform reaction

The revelation that military personnel from RAF Wittering have been ordered not to wear uniform in public because of increasing verbal abuse has detonated a political bombshell.

We kitted up students Evan Beswick and Paris Gourtsoyannis in full army gear to brave the streets of Scotland's capital.

"Almost as soon as we 'joined up', a curious pensioner marched up to us and demanded to know where we were being shipped out to. When we told him our posting was no further than 'around Edinburgh' he seemed relieved.

"As we walked up Leith Walk and down the Grassmarket we attracted numerous glances, but none seemed to be negative or aggressive.

"We were left with the impression that, in Edinburgh at least, most people seem content to judge servicemen and women in uniform by their behaviour and not according to their political beliefs."



The full article contains 891 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 08 March 2008 10:37 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: British armed forces
 
1

J J MAROONER,

Royal Artillery 1971 - 1996 09/03/2008 00:09:40
Bit out of touch to really comment on this - but clearly the Army is changing some of it for the better I am sure, but it was never a haven of equality!!
2

Tris,

Dundee 09/03/2008 00:20:49

£5 million

Why not buy them some kit first. All the diversity training in the world won't do them any good if they get killed for the want of some protective gear, or communications that don't work.

Idiots.
3

Encarta,

In TESCO beside a soldier in desert camouflage uni 09/03/2008 01:04:57
This is utter bolleaux!

My dad (now aged 85) served in World War 2 alongside his comrades from all walks of life, all religions or no religions. My dad is my hero.

Homosexuals went to World War 2 with their comrades and fought the war. Dad told me so.

Their comrades recognised them as "pansies" but they all had a common purpose and so left them to their private lives.

Meanwhile, in 2008, we read this horse manure on a daily basis!
4

democrate,

central Scotland 09/03/2008 01:08:11
interesting? progressive? The header who thought this one up should be transported to Basra or Helmand without delay.
5

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:18:19
what an utter waste of money. The forces do their job and are impartial when on duty. If they think they can be brainwashed in this manner they've another think coming. These days the forces are made up of intelligent, well educated people who will not tolerate this waste of money. If they can't make their voices heard then they'll continue to leave in droves. Of course, that suits Westminster, because then they don't have to pay our pensions. Lots of personnel are between a rock and a hard place because they have to do 18 years service before they get on the ladder for a basic pension. Quite unfair as most in service jobs qualify for pensions from day one.
6

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:19:24
#4, mate,

The churnalists* who ply their trade here left school and went to the college of knowledge (Sighthill College of Commerce) to get their diplomas.

*churnalsists - "would be" journalists who never quite made it to a real University but got on a course at Napier Tech (The Joe Dunning School of Illegal Parking at Craiglockart)

7

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:22:13
Go on,

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/latestnews/Budget-fury-over-whisky-hike.3858787.jp#2569799

Ban me!
8

democrate,

central Scotland 09/03/2008 01:24:57
#subrosa:-
I cannot agree with your analysis of the Forces as mainly intelligent and well-educated; I think a lot of the squaddies are badly-educated and vulnerable, hence their joining-up in the first place.
9

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:25:33
#5,

subrosa,

boys and girls join the army because they believe in their people and country.

what a shame that their politicians do not.
10

democrate,

central Scotland 09/03/2008 01:26:48
#9, Encarta

They never join because it's all that is open to them?
11

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:26:59
#4, mate,

The churnalists* who ply their trade here left school and went to the college of knowledge (Sighthill College of Commerce) to get their diplomas.

*churnalsists - "would be" journalists who never quite made it to a real University but got on a course at Napier Tech (The Joe Dunning School of Illegal Parking at Craiglockart)
12

The Daleks,

Longmen 09/03/2008 01:30:41
Are the PC loonies trying to drive us to revolt with one crazy new scheme after another, or are they just so contemptuous of us that they think they can get away with anything?

The last thing front line soldiers need is so-called "diversity training". They need battle training and proper kit.

Our leaders are truly off their rockers.

Our troops are being attacked on the streets of Peterborough by the you know who's, and brainwashed in their barracks by the PC Brigade.

What's it all about?

It's about time we woke up and asked ourselves.
13

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:32:18
#8,

"I cannot agree with your analysis of the Forces as mainly intelligent and well-educated; I think a lot of the squaddies are badly-educated and vulnerable, hence their joining-up in the first place."

My nephew knows exactly why he joined up.

He cannot wait to do his job, the job he has trained long and hard for in the BRITISH army, in Afghanistan.

It's just a pity that we're discussing it here on a cr4p web discussion thread!
14

J J MAROONER,

Royal Artillery 1971 - 1996 09/03/2008 01:34:42
Suprosa# Think I am right in saying you have a forces background - I assume a Commissioned one, the 18 year "basic" pension is more than a Soldier will get after 22 years, you do not have to be well educated or intelligent to serve a Field Gun, or be part of a rifle section I promise you I know, in the early eighties many of these clever joined the Army only to leave because they could not hack these mundane jobs.

Encarta# The vast majority join because they cant get another job - fact, this includes graduates.




15

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:35:15
#10,

I think you are talking about professional wasters?
16

Encarta,

09/03/2008 01:35:48
#8,

"I cannot agree with your analysis of the Forces as mainly intelligent and well-educated; I think a lot of the squaddies are badly-educated and vulnerable, hence their joining-up in the first place."

My nephew knows exactly why he joined up.

He cannot wait to do his job, the job he has trained long and hard for in the BRITISH army, in Afghanistan.

It's just a pity that we're discussing it here on a cr4p web discussion thread!
17

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:43:29
# 8

I entirely disagree. The member of my family who serves in the Royal Signals has a first class honours degree in engineering and communications and a PhD in civil engineering. All his colleagues have a degree from well recognised universities throughout the UK and the Royal Signals intake has a high standard of A levels or Highers from junior ranks. You're behind the times you are. Our military is run by highly qualified, intelligent people these days. Perhaps the artillery do accept lesser qualifications but that doesn't mean to say the soldiers are any less sensible than anyone else.

You do show much regard you have for the people who put their lives at risk for you.

Believe it or not some people regards joining the military an honourable career (or did until Blair and his visions). Most of these personnel could earn far more in civvie street believe me.


18

J J MAROONER,

09/03/2008 01:45:16
17#

I see we are talking about the Officers Mess here.
19

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:45:50
# 10

See my last post at # 17. You really think someone with a lst class Honours in Engineering and Communications and a PhD, all from Strathclyde University (the best engineering university in Scotland 15 years ago) couldn't get a job outwith the forces?

Auch yer daft.
20

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:49:30
# 18

And what's your point?
21

J J MAROONER,

09/03/2008 01:56:43
I didnt realise you were talking about commissioned ranks I agree with your remarks about being well educated etc, but Officers always were, WERE THEY NOT?
22

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:57:13
I get sick to death of hearing that the army is the dumping ground of the useless, ignorant and dross of our society because that is no longer the case. Oh yes once upon a time this type of person was pushed through the likes of Penicuik over and over again, but that no longer happens.

The army nowadays needs highly trained, skilled personnel. They don't accept the losers in society.

# 14 Yes and why shouldn't officers get on the basic run of the pension ladder after 18 years. They're given 4 years extra as a reward for being there instead of taking a much higher paid job in civvie street. I've yet to hear any one of any rank complain about it being unfair.
23

subrosa,

09/03/2008 01:59:38
# 21

Of course officers weren't always highly qualified. Don't you read any military history at all? Mind you born leaders aren't always the brainiest of the bunch but it's leadership and good support that makes a troup, a battalion and a regiment great.
24

J J MAROONER,

Royal Artillery 1971 - 1996 09/03/2008 02:04:57
#22

I am not suggesting they are dross, I was not dross, but how clever do you need to be to do certain jobs in the Army. Subrosa sincere good luck to you and yours, make the most of the Army because you dont know what you have got till it has gone.
25

subrosa,

09/03/2008 02:17:44
# 24

I have to live day in day out with the fact that one of my close family may not return from one of these wars. Not an easy thing to do I assure you. In my situation I'm sure I do know what I have and because of that I've done my best to persuade him to come out of the army and take one of the many jobs he's been headhunted for over the years but he says no. I have to respect that choice. After all, I'm just his mother.

Any organisation requires people of different skills and skill levels. As I said before I'm tired of listening to the drivel that's spouted about today's army in particular. The way things are going with so many leaving it won't be long before we don't have an army. I can hear the cries already of 'who's going to protect me?' Well I certainly hope it's not my nearest and dearest, he's already paid his dues to this country.

Wasting this money on this stupid idea just shows the level of our governments mentality towards the forces. It's no better than the average civilian's. Buy the men/women decent boots, medical equipment, communications equipment..... I could go on forever. Thank you for your good wishes # 24 I appreciate them.
26

J J MAROONER,

09/03/2008 02:24:06
25#

I would go back tomorrow but I am to old now, I was an Artilleryman my legacy is that I cant hear a bloody thing now - good night Subrosa
27

M.T.,

09/03/2008 04:02:14
"Defence chiefs have caused widespread outrage with plans to spend £5m on actors to help spread the message of tolerance throughout the armed forces."

So the 10% income tax band is abolished, fuel tax, aggregate tax, is due to go up and tax will be increased on alcohol etc, etc.
Actors will be paid £5m to make our armed forces tolerant.
How much will be spent making all the outraged tolerant?
28

Watson,

Irvine 09/03/2008 07:33:24
Why pay actors when we have prince harry rambo? Just wondering if he wore his body armour on the plane home?
29

Alberto.,

09/03/2008 08:09:54
Good heavens!

Do the MOd not realise, like the General Public do - from the displays they have already given almost daily, that their 'organisation(?)' is already full and seemingly 'overflowing with Actors' - mostly 'Funny men'and in more ways than one!

There really can be no need for Actors, but if they do feel a real pressing need, at least for comedians - well,they could always recruit from the 'House of Commons' - they have reserve stock, and with the forthcoming, hopefully, tightening up of their expenses claims, a way of 'earning' something extra would be very welcome indeed - I feel sure any calls will be welcome!
30

Freedom for Scotland,

09/03/2008 08:31:59
Send for Harry Hewitt!
31

yockel,

09/03/2008 09:02:52
#12 "Are the PC loonies trying to drive us to revolt with one crazy new scheme after another"

You had better believe it, that is how the socialist revolution is meant to happen.
So just make sure they lose!
32

Colin R,

BEarsde 09/03/2008 10:33:51
Labour will be sending trops into war armed with social workers and flowers next- Des Browne who is frequently caught lying ( cockpit video, sialors stories, pay, housing etc )should be dismissed,
33

glassbenmhor,

09/03/2008 11:19:51
Hey Encarta what planet you reside on,this is absolute b*llocks You Sir would do well for the sake of your Nephew to hope that 5million will be spent upon the basics of military survival.
As for some comments here I despair to the point I just hope and pray that we can all get to Independence as quick as possible,I served and I serve the Colours of my Regiment by oath of allegiance ,I know not of any other Oath of any form of allegiance at any time within my Service ,full stop.
A march across the ever part of the Globe partaken down through three centuries ,along the way hundreds of battle honours ,VC's, funerals of US presidents you just name it,untill my day that "will live in infamy".
The day the Labour Party in Government put this World Famous Institution asunder ,not by force of arms but by the pen.
AND I WITH MANY OTHERS WILL HAVE MY VENGENCE ALSO WITH THE PEN
34

Queen D,

Glasgow 09/03/2008 11:23:00
I thought we already had a persuasive group of actors with an excellent play, The Blackwatch.
Maybe someone should tell Mr Bowne!
35

Gothic Rose,

09/03/2008 12:09:27
Actors, beware of being Shanghied.to fight!!!Whose going to believe that you are not of the forces.
36

Fifi la Bonbon,

09/03/2008 12:32:34
"Clive Fairweather, former deputy commander of the SAS, said: "I have never heard of anything as ridiculous in my life, and I say this as someone who delivers training on equality and diversity, as well as being a former soldier. They could have had me for £50 a week."

An equality and diversity trainer? For £50 a week? Is he serious?

I will be emailing him first thing tomorrow as every other consultant will be charging £500 a day minimum!
37

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 09/03/2008 13:10:19
Maybe the Defence Chiefs should go through basic training and be armed and equipped in exactly the same way as soldiers in the field and sent to Afghanistan or Iraq for, let's say, 10 weeks at the real front line.

We'll soon see how they exercise equality and tolerance then! Or maybe they would prefer better body armour and weapons? Or maybe they would be needing their own personal social worker by then.
38

Guga II,

Rockall 09/03/2008 13:12:10
Yet another thing to prove that Des Browne is not fit for purpose, in either of his jobs.

Never mind such things as decent equipment or decent housing, send in the actors!

The New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party has to go.
39

preddo53,

leeds 09/03/2008 19:34:34
If I could go back into the army the first thing I would do is arrange a coup.
40

JT,

09/03/2008 20:38:40
So the gang show is going to stop the troops gettting killed by road side bombs, suicide bombers and snipers?? mmm thought not. This has got to be one of the most stupidist ideas that the MOD have come up with. Yes troops need moral boosts from time to time but they are also needing protection, guns that work and quality food to do their job. Not diversity training.
41

Evia,

09/03/2008 20:44:27
There are plenty of actors in the Scottish Government. Admittedly, they aren't very good but they should do the job for free.
42

Teofilio Cubillas,

09/03/2008 22:09:12
#36 Fifi la Bonbon

Having listened to a 'humorous' speech by Clive Fairweather at a private function I can assure you that as an equality and diversity advisor he is overcharging at £50 a week. And I don't usually mind lesbian gags.
43

clarry,

09/03/2008 23:46:46

Another freeby for Bliar
44

clarry,

09/03/2008 23:51:31

Might buy him another London pad and 1000 pair of shoes for the cash cow cherie - almela best chum - with 10% levy to sugar daddy Levy.

That war certainly turned out a winner! £££££££££££
for some 0000000000000000 for the rest of us.

45

BK,

Cyberspace 10/03/2008 00:38:52
Why pay for entertainers when the MOD has had a succession of clowns - Geoff Hoon, John Reid and Des Browne, who would grace any circus?

 

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