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Race question threatens to derail Obama



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Published Date: 27 April 2008
IT IS the question that has hung over Barack Obama's presidential primary campaign: why has he been unable to win over enough working class and white voters to wrap up the Democratic nomination?
Lurking behind that question is another: is the Democratic Party hesitating about race as it moves to the brink of nominating an African-American to be president?

Obama remains ahead of Hillary Clinton in delegates, in the popular vote and in nati
onal polls, and Clinton certainly has her own problems trying to herd Democrats into her corner.

But just when it seemed that the Democratic Party was close to anointing Obama as its nominee, he lost yet again – in Pennsylvania, a big general election state – dragged down by his weakness among blue-collar voters, older voters and white voters. The composition of Clinton's support – or looked at another way, the makeup of those voters who have proved reluctant to embrace Obama – has Democrats wondering, if not worrying, about what role race may be playing.

"I'm sure there is some of that," said David Axelrod, Obama's senior political adviser, as he considered how race is playing among voters in late-primary states. He said that Clinton's biggest advantage has been among older voters, "and I think there is a general inclination on the part of the older voters to vote for what is more familiar". Axelrod added: "Here's a guy named Barack Obama, an African-American guy, relatively new. That's a lot of change."

While arguably critical to determining the viability of Obama's candidacy, the role of race is difficult to disentangle from the other strands of the political debate surrounding him, encompassing sensitive topics such as values, elitism, ideology and experience.

It has historically proved challenging to measure how racial attitudes factor into voter decisions. Respondents don't tend to announce to pollsters that they will not vote for a candidate because he or she is black.

It is also hard to discount the fact that Obama has won big victories in very white states. The crowds at his rallies are as white as any that one might find at a Clinton rally, and there are many analysts in both parties who believe that racial attitudes in the US are changing at a breakneck pace, particularly among younger voters.

Complicating things even further are the high-profile episodes that have rattled his campaign. Obama's remark at a private fundraiser in San Francisco about bitter blue-collar workers "clinging to" guns and religion was the kind of assertion that would be damaging to a candidate of any race.

Inflammatory statements made by Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright Jr, who is black, have been seized on by Republicans to present Obama as unpatriotic. An advertisement released by Republicans in North Carolina last week included that portrayal.

The statement by his wife, Michelle, that "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country" has been invoked by Republicans in an attempt to portray Obama as culturally unlike the people he is asking to vote for him, a historically potent line of attack.

"Race is intertwined with a broader notion that he is not 'one of us'," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, which conducted an extensive examination of voter attitudes, particularly among Democrats who have an unfavourable view of Obama. "They react negatively to people who are seen as different."

Geoff Garin, a senior strategist for Clinton, said that while race may have had some role in Obama's problems in Pennsylvania, his biggest problem was that these events underlined the image of him being out of touch.

"Voters came into the campaign with pretty big question marks about whether Obama gets them," Garin said. "And those comments reinforced doubts that people had."

At the same time, John McCain, the Republican nominee, has sought to portray Obama as ideologically out of step with much of the country, focusing on his views on tax cuts, healthcare and the war in Iraq.

"The big question about Barack Obama from the very beginning has been: is he safe?" said Peter D Hart, a Democratic pollster not affiliated with any of the campaigns. "Safe in terms of both the cultural values that he has, and about whether he is strong enough to be commander in chief."

For Obama, race presents two potential problems: voters opposing Obama simply because he is black, and Democrats who will not support Obama because they do not think a black man can win a general election.

The results in Pennsylvania suggested problems exist. A poll of Democratic voters conducted by Edison/Mitofsky found that Clinton drew 63% of the white vote while Obama drew 90% of the black vote, mirroring a pattern that has been found in many other states. More strikingly, the poll found that 18% of Democrats said that race mattered to them in this contest, and just 63% of those voters said they would support Obama in a general election.

There is also a flip side to the increasing racial polarisation in Democratic voting patterns: should Clinton win the nomination, some Democrats said, there is a risk that she would be unable to mobilise black voters to support her if she won the nomination in a way that was viewed by black voters as being unfair.

The exit poll found that 69% of white Democrats would vote for Obama in a general election campaign over McCain; 73% of blacks said they would vote for Clinton over McCain.

Last Wednesday, Obama played down the racial aspects of the coalition Clinton used to defeat him in Pennsylvania.

"Our problem has less to do with white working-class voters," Obama said. "In fact the problem, to the extent that there is a problem, is that older voters are very loyal to Senator Clinton."

But the real test may come in the general election, should he win the Democratic nomination. Pennsylvania and Ohio are going to be two critical states this autumn, and it is going to be difficult for any Democrat to win those states without support from the Democrats that Obama is struggling to bring on to his bandwagon.





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27/04/2008 00:48:00
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57Nomad,

california 27/04/2008 01:38:32
#1ts

ts said:

"The whites are right to be suspicious especially after hearing Obama is 'religious' and the rantings of his religious leader."

You've got two different parts here. The first, that Obama is 'religious' is hardly a liability in American politics. The opposite is true. If a man who was ostentatiously not religious ran for the presidency he would have a rough time of it. Americans are much more religious than Europeans as I'm sure everyone is well aware.

His association with Rev. Wright is another story entirely. His admonition to his flock to say "God damn America" instead of "God bless America" isn't going to play. Let me back up a second on that. The radical "Moveon.org" lefties that have gained control of the Democrat party has many members who would agree. These are the people whose money and effort may well get the nomination for Obama.

Obama stands to lose every state in the general election. Hillary Clinton is a much more formidable opponent. Hillary might be able to beat McCain in the general election even though she can't beat Obama in the primaries. McCain will bury Obama.

For those not familiar with American politics the rule of thumb is this. In order for the Dems to win they need to be 15 percentage points ahead of the Republicans once the two conventions are over. This has nothing to do with race no matter what cynics may say. The same rule holds for white candidates. Barak Obama has made it a point, when the National Anthem is played, not to place his hand over his heart. This is roughly equivalent to spitting on the flag. It sits well with the fringe lefties that love him. It is anathema for the remaining 95% of the citizens. He is toast from day one.
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julescator,

tinton falls, nj 27/04/2008 04:39:10
This happens every 4 years. People let the distractions divert their attention from the real issues.

Clinton is a known liar and has the highest negatives of anyone seeking the highest office in this country. She is a panderer of the worse kind and a liar. She will say anything and do anything to get into office.

She tells us she is against NAFTA - the truth - she campained for it
She tells us that she will FIGHT for us - exactly who will she be fighting? The US Congress - that will certainly get the job done.

Clinton will never get anything through Congress - Why? Because she is a polarizing figure who many people hate, not because of the color of her skin or HER assoications (which are far more dangerous and slimy than anyone Obama knows) but because she is a mess. She is all talk and very little action. She triangulates and spins and lies to suit the constituency.

For those of you that think Obama is tainted because of Ref Wright. Tell me exactly how that translates when Obama is president?
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Dáithí,

San Jose 27/04/2008 05:10:37
The American Democratic party has been pitting the races against each other since the late '60's. The scenario has always been 'White Male v Everyone Else'.

Now it appears that this strategy has backfired on them, and that they are 'eating their own young'.

It's a matter of bad timing - for to their chagrin their female candidate, who should garner votes because of her sex, is pitted, at the same time, against their black candidate, who should garner votes because of his race.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Pelon,

NM USA, formerly PA USA 27/04/2008 05:40:14
Would it be OK if Obama were running for office in a predominantly black country to have his white heritage held against him? No. Simple hypocrisy. Is PA a good example for the rest of this country, or for the world? No longer. I'm certain at one time it may have been. Yes, PA has a voice in this process, as do all other states of these United States, but the trumpeting voice - as you can see and here so easily in these cyber times - is not of our future, or of the future we want. Whom is this "we" I speak of? I speak of the populace of America counting the colors of her children, the children seeing the many shades of their heritage, the people finding the truth inescapable - that our difference is our strength, and our strength is more than we ever believed possible. The Clinton politics of PA are echos of our crude past, rising as far as they can go, finding no fertile soil to root. The "race question" is hollow. Just as Obama's pastor learns he speaks to older generations of black Americans, and has served his purpose, and finds no national sounding board willing to amplify his words today, older generations of white Americans yearn for the past and the deflated economies typical of PA. We've all learned that it is truly time to grow up, to become the UNITED community, and move on. We've met the enemy, and he is us. Love your enemy.
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Pelon,

NM USA 27/04/2008 05:53:38
#5 In CA...

You say the Democratic party has been pitting the races against each other...

What planet are you from, sport?

I'm certain you've seen the same news reports over the years as everyone else, so I'll presume the reports just gets jangled in your conciousness, or some reasonable facsimile for awareness you are foisting, and comes out bass-ackwards.

How can you say that?

So much for love your enemy, doh!
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airmick,

Delaware 27/04/2008 05:55:47
#4 Jules C

JC you hit the nail on the head concerning HC however, what do we know about Barack. He runs on change, but what kind of change? What has he actually accomplished, in his state senate, and U.S. senate terms. I believe you'll find that list very short indeed.

One thing I will grant him however, is that he's as smooth a politician as anyone out there. When he initially ran for the Ill. state senate the female senator who advised she was not going to run for re-election changed her mind, and decided to run. Mr. Obama and a few harvard attorney's challenged her signatures on a required document to run and had her removed from the ballet. Also consider while voting in Ill. senate floor sessions he asked the house recorder to put on the record that he had selected the wrong button on the vote 11 times. This did not change his vote, only put on the record that during a controversial vote he's on record saying the vote was in error. 11 times ? That sounds a little fishy to me. Since Mr. Obama is an unknown more scrunity appears to be in order.
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walter,

27/04/2008 08:17:53
Is this just not typical.
If Obama wins a state it is because of his policies but if he loses a state it is because he is black.
If Clinton wins a state it is because Obama is black but if she loses it is because of her policies.
If a black person supports Obama it is because of his policies.
If a white person supports Obama it is because of his policies.
If a black person supports Clinton it is because of her policies.
If a white person supports Clinton it is because they are racist.
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carrottop,

Dumfries 27/04/2008 09:54:48
'A poll of Democratic voters conducted by Edison/Mitofsky found that Clinton drew 63% of the white vote while Obama drew 90% of the black vote, mirroring a pattern that has been found in many other states.'
Based on above Facts who are the real racists?
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Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 13:40:50
The polling questions and results get spun like a game at a carny show but can not change the facts:

1. Anyone but Hillary.
Hillary was disliked to the point "anyone but Clinton" was a campaign slogan. Hillary has high unfavorable ratings in reference to honesty, trust and likability, but Obama still can not win against her. This says buckets about Obama but no media writes it. Only against another candidate like Hillary could Obama have gotten this far.

2. Timing and being the also-ran
Obama did get this far in the race because he spoke well and had no 'baggage.' The media gave him a free pass. When all the negatives about Obama finally came out, he had already won an unsurmountable lead. If the God-damned America and bitter remark came out in Iowa, he would be an also-ran.

3. There is no reward for bad behavior.
It doesn't matter if you're green with purple stripes, if you are the person for the job, you have a chance to prove yourself to the electorate and become president. But if you say you hate America, and God-damn America and say we cling to God and guns because we're bitter, we are not going to vote for you even if we love green and purple people. Is that Racism?- No, only to racists is it racism.

What Walter writes in #9 will always be true.
The cop case in NYC with Al Sharpton leading a demonstration because the cops were found innocent is the example.
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27/04/2008 14:01:41
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Dáithí,

San Jose 27/04/2008 16:19:57
#11 - Pelon

>"I'm certain you've seen the same news reports over the years as everyone else,"

Yes, including THIS one - which apparently you didn't:

"Race question threatens to derail Obama"

Forwarding the exact, divisive politics of 'stereotyping' that has become the hallmark of the Democratic Party, you posted:

"older generations of white Americans yearn for the past and the deflated economies typical of PA."

So you complain about my comment - then prove me right by stereotyping people by age and race?

>"We've met the enemy, and he is us."

Pogo is rolling over in his grave - no Pelon, We have met your enemy, and he is YOU - and anyone else that manipulates the divisive politics of race, age and gender classification.
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 27/04/2008 17:59:43
How can Obama be blamed for what his pastor said, that's absurd. This country needs change and change desperately. Clinton is still the white house which ever way you look at it. Obama is the new boy on the block a fresh start. Someone said that he has little experience in politics but where is the bench mark on experience? Look at it this way, an inexperienced Pilot may crash, and people will say that he/she was inexperienced. A Pilot with over 20,000 flying hours crashes, that's called Pilot Error, we.ve had Bush for the last 8 years, what,s that called, Political Error? Please apply; NO EXPERIENCE REQUIRED!!!!!
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Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 19:45:43
Your youth is blinking like a neon sign.

No way would I get in a plane unless the pilot is fully licensed, and passed all tests of skill, stability, leadership and experience. That's why we call them Captain. Experience required, until then, you're second seat.
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Dáithí,

San Jose 27/04/2008 21:28:52
#15 - Scotindy

>"This country needs change and change desperately."

No, it doesn't.
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!Ya basta!,

28/04/2008 08:14:27
#17 - The US so desperately needs a change from its current path of self-destruction. And while US power (military and economic) and influence (cultural) extends so far, so do we in the rest of the world. The US has never been so widely despised and thinly tolerated (frequently, but not always, rightly so) as it is now and that is precisely because of your corrupt and corrupting system - which you need to change (and before you say it, us non-US citizens do have a right to tell you what to do when you interfere so blatantly in the affairs of so many other countries).

We should not hope for too much, because it is America after all and despite the good intentions of millions of decent people there, the system is stacked against nay kind of meaningful change. Obama is the best hope for some small changes and maybe even the very start of something bigger.

McCain and Clinton will change absolutely nothing fundamental.
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The wilkman,

Isle of Skye 28/04/2008 10:46:29

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carrottop,
Dumfries 27/04/2008 09:54:48
'A poll of Democratic voters conducted by Edison/Mitofsky found that Clinton drew 63% of the white vote while Obama drew 90% of the black vote, mirroring a pattern that has been found in many other states.'
Based on above Facts who are the real racists?

er
'The exit poll found that 69% of white Democrats would vote for Obama in a general election campaign over McCain; 73% of blacks said they would vote for Clinton over McCain.'

Don't be selective in your Facts, please.
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Dougie - Edinburgh,

Edinburgh 28/04/2008 12:12:49
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In regarding the question as to whether Obama can be "blamed" for what his pastor said, the real question you should ask is what this says about his judgement and values to maintain a close relationship with such a person over a period of decades. The pastor preaches antipathy to whites, he's unambiguously anti-American, he gave a "lifetime achievement" award to Louis Farrakhan. Obama wasn't unaware of all of this - what does that say about Obama?

From Obama's own speech on Dr Wright:
"I can no more disown [Rev. Dr. Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother".

The fact is, Barack Obama is a black racial activist, someone who has spent much of his life campaigning for the interests of one race at the expense of another. His own autobiographical novel makes this quite clear. Mr Nagourney's article implies that whites are racist not to vote for him. This is as ridiculous as suggesting blacks are racist not to vote for David Duke.
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28/04/2008 14:24:20
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 28/04/2008 16:22:42
There are obviously some, in-fact there may be many, white Americans who will never vote for him because of his race. But it works both ways, Obama also has the advantage this time of attracting most of the black vote because of his race. It works both ways. Clinton may be the first female president which attracts women voters, is this being sexist?
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28/04/2008 16:44:15
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keystone,

Eau Claire WI USA 28/04/2008 16:44:46
No one comment derailed Obama, race or otherwise. Obama was little more than a figment of liberal fantasy, and Obama derailed Obama when the sane people took a real look at what it is that is Obama, for Obama is in reality nothing but a small talent Chicago style politician. If one has any understanding of what Chicago politicis is all about, then they will fully understand Obama. There was, and is a very thin veneer protecting Obama, some of it his race, but now that this thin veneer is being peeled off, what the world is learning about Obama is not pretty, and for Obama the worst is yet to come. Obama and his puppy like followers forgot the wisdom in the saying, "you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." The fooling is over, and the world should now prepare their Obama goodbyes. So is life,and so is reality.
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Dunnyveg,

Texas 28/04/2008 17:13:15
I think that ultimately the Obama affair boils down to one of honesty. And it is whites who are being dishonest with themselves.

Since the Civil Rights Era there has been a steady stream of propaganda claiming that race and ethnicity must be overcome; we are all part of the brotherhood of man. But whites are the only ones who even claim to believe that race can be made not to matter. But do whites really believe race can be made not to matter? If so, then how do we explain phenomena such as white flight, and the fact that Obama has consistently received eighty-plus percent of the black vote whereas Hillary has received two-thirds to three-quarters of the white vote in the various primaries?

African-Americans identify with their ethnic group and so do whites. It's a shame that whites are too cowardly to admit as much.
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American,

28/04/2008 19:34:12
Enough already about his race! Blacks will vote for him only because he's black. Many whites will vote for him only because he's a democrat. The only whites that wont vote for him are the ones who actually know his views, voting records, his plans as president, what company he keeps, that he's a hamas-palestinian sympathizer, and that he's married to an ant-American white-hater (possible "first Lady). He's rated the #1 lib. Even hillary is better than him.

 

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