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Published Date: 08 February 2009
ONE in seven Scottish off-licences is prepared to sell alcohol to children, the first-ever nationwide police sting operation has revealed.
Youngsters working undercover with police were able to buy drink at more than 200 of the licensed premises they visited, a figure described by one MSP last night as "appalling".

The findings are particularly disturbing as they come amid growing concern over the health and social consequences of underage drinking and plans by the SNP Government for a crackdown on cheap alcohol.

The teenagers, dubbed "spy kids", tried to buy alcohol at more than 1,600 licensed premises, most of them off-licences, since the Scottish Government and police forces rolled out the first national programme of test purchasing just over a year ago.

They were able to make purchases at 227 of them on their first visit. Youngsters working with Strathclyde Police caught more than half of the total – 118 off-licenses and three pubs – in the course of 13 months from December 2007.

Officials said most of the businesses caught selling at the first visit by "spy kids" had cleaned up their act by the time the teenagers, most of whom are 16, came back. Twenty-two firms – one in 10 of those caught out – were found to have broken the law twice. All of them have been reported to the procurator fiscal and several have already had their licences suspended.

Bill Aitken MSP, the Tory spokesman on justice, said: "It is appalling, especially bearing in mind the publicity on this issue, that we should still see more than 200 licensees selling booze to youngsters. Licensing boards need to get real in tackling this. The number of prosecutions is in no way commensurate with the actual problem."

Aitken's Labour counterpart, Richard Baker, said: "The number of premises failing test purchasing at first visit really is disappointing. But the fact that a much smaller number fail at the second attempt shows that test purchasing does work. We want to see this programme rolled out even further."

Health campaigner Evelyn Gillan, the director of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, said: "We need to create a climate where selling to children is not acceptable at all. What has been wrong in the past is that the legislation was there, but people were not implementing it.

"We must put out a really clear message that action will be taken if people are selling alcohol to young people.

"There are all sorts of health reasons why young people should not drink – whatever you think of the moral issue. The organs, after all, are still developing. Starting to drink on a regular basis, say at weekends, at the age of 15 or 16 can have long-term and devastating effects on brain development."

A spokeswoman for the Scottish Government said: "We know that alcohol is causing too many problems in Scotland and that too many under-18s continue to be able to access alcohol. The Scottish Government rolled out national Test Purchasing to give our police forces an additional tool to tackle this problem.

"The law is clear: retailers have a responsibility to adopt a 'can't tell, don't sell' approach to selling alcohol. But test purchasing enables the police to focus efforts on the irresponsible minority who ignore the law, based on intelligence.

"We'd encourage any individuals who have concerns about any premises that may continue to sell alcohol to the underaged to tell the police so they can continue to take action."

The national programme of test purchasing was rolled out after a successful pilot project in Fife. Backers stress that the scheme is already changing habits in the licensed trade – and forcing proprietors to step up staff training.

But opposition MSPs, despite welcoming the initiative, fear too few businesses are being successfully prosecuted.

As Scotland on Sunday revealed late last year, only 47 licensees were convicted of selling alcohol to the under-18s in 2007-08. In some areas, half of all prosecutions fail.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has suggested new legislation to raise the age at which people can buy drink in off-licences to 21. Critics of the move have said he should concentrate on enforcing existing laws.


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  • Last Updated: 07 February 2009 6:45 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Alcohol & binge drinking
 
1

Observer,,

Glasgow 08/02/2009 00:35:46
They needed a Police sting to find this out ? Any 15 year old could have told them that. And this isn't new - I could buy drink at that age as well. Police and local authorities already have the powers to deal with this issue. They've had them for years and they've never done anything about it. We don't need new laws: we need to use the ones we've got.
2

FerryPort,

08/02/2009 00:58:27
exacto numero uno!!

We've always known who's mostly to blame.

Hopefully through this "spying" the law will be enforced as it should be.

I used to buy thrup'ny singles (cigs) from the ice-cream van, JoJo's, at our school gates at lunchtimes. I was 12. He would mumble "You'll get me killed" in lovely Italian accent. I still smoke.



3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 02:20:32


"The teenagers, dubbed "spy kids",

This could be classed as, 'Dangerous Territory'!

1. How old are these "spy kids"? 21!? as the new legal age to purchase Alcohol!

2. It could be classed as 'Abuse', to use these "spy kids" to meet the Police, own-ends!

I tell you something!, you had be very careful, using soo called "spy kids", because, "Kids" is what they are!

A Clever Lawyer, and Human Rights issues, could land the Police in a lot of trouble, and take them to the cleaners!


4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 02:27:45



"SPY KIDS" = 'BIG QUESTION MARKS'!!!,....

......MARK MY WORDS!!!

5

lobout,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 02:57:11
Banning alcohol to minors (or anyone else) doesn't work. Ask any 16 year old, anyone under 21 in the USA, anyone who lived through prohibition, anyone in the more repressive parts of the Middle East. They'll all tell you getting alcohol is no problem
6

Finlang,

Hong Kong 08/02/2009 03:08:37
#4
Charlie, your words are marked. Not a million miles from the truth either.
7

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 04:16:25


Thankyou, Finlang @#6, and a BIG-YES! to lobout @#5,

"Banning alcohol to minors (or anyone else) doesn't work"

If young "Teens" want to drink Alcohol, come Hell, or High water, they WILL!



And that my friends is the true, 'end-of-story'!!!




8

jester,

Somewhere Else 08/02/2009 07:41:00
It really is no surprise. Certain small traders will happily sell kids booze/ cigarettes/ fireworks, and it is the same ones over and over.
Time to call time on the farcical off-licence system.
9

lachlan,

08/02/2009 09:15:42
#1#2correct the laws are there already but are not used.
10

Astarte,

Giffnock 08/02/2009 09:25:40
How soon will it be before I can read the names and addresses of the lawbreakers on the front page of the
newspapers? This story has no legs until all the facts are published!
11

albanman,

08/02/2009 10:34:24
Well, now that it's been made official what many of us have known for ages - what was done to those shopkeepers who sold alcohol to the kids - and will the law be enforced in the future? It is very easy to discover who's breaking this law; I agree wtih No.10 - publish the names of the culprits, but also take away their licence to sell alcohol (even if it the first offence).
12

GMCD,

08/02/2009 10:46:09
I am very surprised that the offending licensees got a second chance - they should have been charged immediately...
13

Lang Spoon,

The trenches, Leith 08/02/2009 10:52:38
#3 and #4
Sir, I'm not sure whether you approve or disapprove of the issues here, but I can comment about clever lawyers; I don't know how some of them can sleep at night, defending the indefensible.
The phrase I would suggest is intellectual prostitutes, their brains are on hire to the highest bidder, no matter how unsavoury. Do none of them have moral standards?
I'll no doubt be hearing from m'learned friends shortly!
14

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 08/02/2009 11:03:05
It seems the almighty pound and profit is the driving force here.

In Canada, and this is almost related, you cannot buy cigarettes unless you can prove you are over 25! and cigarette displays are hidden behind the counter in shuttered racks.

Also, you can be charged here if you are caught buying booze for a minor at our LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario) outlets.

But the kids STILL get their fags and booze and get an early start on ruining their health.
15

Greyhound Welfare,

Swansea 08/02/2009 12:55:29
Surely the Police should not be using Kids to find this out. All they are doing is making sure these Spy Kids get picked on by gangs. There is nothing wrong with what is called under age drinking. It is these laws that cause the Brits to binge drink when it is legal for them to drink. The Police should be going after Knife and Gun Gangs and also those who are breaking into property. Drugs are also more of a problem than drink provided over the limit for driving does not happen. I am sure if children were allowed to have a taste of a drink more of them would not bother with it. I always remember having a drag of a Woodbine cigarette it was so foul that I never smoked after that. I even persuaded my wife not to smoke by example.
16

expat33,

somewhere else 08/02/2009 14:01:51
what a load of hypochrisy

Did you grow up in Scotland?
Did you ever try to buy alcohol under age?
Did you succeed?

Come off it, when you're a kid you try to buy alcohol/cigarettes ( in some cases if you can't buy you steal) it's not something to make waves about.

If an MSP says that it is apalling maybe he should start thinking about something else and not necessarily bonuses for bankrupt bankers!
17

Shenachy,

South Queensferry 08/02/2009 14:34:52
#10 and #11.
"Officials said most of the businesses caught selling at the first visit by "spy kids" had cleaned up their act by the time the teenagers, most of whom are 16, came back. Twenty-two firms – one in 10 of those caught out – were found to have broken the law twice. All of them have been reported to the procurator fiscal and several have already had their licences suspended."
As you see, action HAS been taken. No excuses are acceptable for deliberately flouting the law but as you see, this story is telling us that at last the authorities are using the current law more effecively than in the past. Why do we always cry out for more and more legislation when all that is needed is enforcement of what is already on the statute book?

As for removing someone's livelihood for a first offence - somewhat draconian if it happens to be an honest mistake by a shop assistant. But I guess we could always bring back the death penalty.
18

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 15:35:19
Spy kids? Sooks, more like and nasty wee clypes. They should be ashamed of themselves.
19

G Man542,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 15:53:20
#18 Why should they be ashamed of themselves?

I’ve got a feeling the police are using kids that have been caught buying drink underage in exchange for a 'lighter penalty’. And for goodness sake will everyone please remember not every kid does it.
20

jackhatter,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 17:12:55
I did this when I lived in Canada but for cigarettes. I was 16 and the legal age was 19. It was run very well and I had to have parental permission. I suspect it was run in a similar way here. I got paid over a few weeks to travel to shops (driven by an adult who did not come into the shops with me) and try to buy cigaretts. If I remember correctly about 2/3 of the shops were willing to sell them to me. At one shop, after being asked for ID which I didn't have, the clerk asked me to take off my sunglasses and then decided I looked old enough?!?

Without offical confirmation, Police can't do anything (ie just asking kids what shops they go to). Giving them a chance to 'clean up their act' is more efficent and cheaper in the long run as there are no expensive Court cases (and frees up the Courts which are over loaded anyway).
21

PointOf View,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 17:48:55
3 / 4 C.L.
I hate to admit this but on this occasion C.L. has a valid point. Not only C.L's point but what really worries me is the SS used similar tactics during the onset of the 2nd world war. Think about it! Better still read some history relating to this point.
22

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/02/2009 18:31:22
They are gong about this the completely wrong way. Draconian laws, coupled with wildly over-zealous enforcement have CREATED many problems--not least that of young kids drinking in parks.

If they tighten up the laws and enforcement further, they are going to create the situation where under-age kids are going to resort to mugging people carrying alcohol back from the shops and/or breaking into houses to steal it. In fact, there has already been one case of someone being mugged for alcohol reported in the very paper recently, so as usual, it looks like I am right.

For Christ's sake! BACK OFF WITH THE BRAIN-DEAD ENFORCEMENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!

"Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has suggested new legislation to raise the age at which people can buy drink in off-licences to 21. Critics of the move have said he should concentrate on enforcing existing laws."

He should resign. Pure and simple.
23

Astarte,

Giffnock 09/02/2009 20:08:47
#17 My point in journaleez is the story has no legs.

 

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