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Can we beat the Taliban?



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Published Date: 16 December 2007
IN 2001, when he was contemplating military action in Afghanistan, Tony Blair took soundings from those who knew the country. In the aftermath of 9/11, military action was inevitable, that much was clear, but what form, asked Blair, should it take?
Few have a better strategic understanding of the country than Guy Willoughby, the director of the Dumfries-based mine clearing organisation, the Halo Trust, which has been working in the country since 1988. The former army officer gave an unequivocal
warning against military action, a position he stands by despite a major victory over the Taliban in Musa Qala last week.

"I supplied a comprehensive briefing paper in 2001, and another in 2006, in which I said bluntly that Nato military action wouldn't work and would lead us into a military quagmire," says Willoughby. "I recommended that Nato disengage, that they should be very careful allying themselves with the Northern Alliance without taking into account the Pashtuns, being the largest single ethnic group in Afghanistan. I argued that the priority should be to build up a truly national Afghan army and police, and I remain as convinced as ever that a domestic resolution is the only viable option.

"Instead, what we've done is to repeat the efforts of the Russians, but without being able to use landmines for Force Protection and extensive air support for fear of collateral damage. It's finally dawned on us that while we might be able to win battles, we'll never win a war. And although it's not what we sought, that's what the current conflict has become."

In 2001, Blair, buoyed by his positive experience of intervention in Kosovo and Sierra Leone, rejected that analysis, but Willoughby's views chime with those of most Afghans and, privately, much of the British army. A battlefield like Afghanistan breeds a black sense of humour and the time-honoured national joke is that the foreigners may have the watches but it's the Afghans who have the time. No matter how well-equipped an invading army is, it will always be worn down by the harsh realities of trying to subjugate an Afghan population willing to sustain huge losses and who will take as long as it needs to repel invaders. The Russians had killed over a million Afghans before Moscow ran out of money for the war, and it became so unpopular at home – so the Red Army rolled northwards with its tail between its legs.

As Gordon Brown's fact-finding mission to Afghanistan at the start of last week and his statement to the House of Commons on Wednesday suggest, the fierce fighting in Helmand province and the gradual disengagement from Iraq mean that a political and military compromise in Afghanistan is now a domestic imperative.

Willoughby welcomed Brown's speech, adding that discussions with Douglas Alexander when he visited the Halo Trust's 3000-man operation in Afghanistan recently proved that Brown's determination to employ political as well as military means to fracture the Taliban means the government has "clearly got its brain around the issue and is finally heading in the right direction". That direction, no matter Brown's headline rhetoric, is to engage with the Taliban.

Brown is rubber-stamping a policy that Afghan president Hamid Karzai has been pursuing energetically for the past year. In an effort to stop his authority ebbing away, Karzai has been sending messages from Kabul to the 18-strong Quetta Shura, a council of elders in neighbouring Pakistan which controls the Helmand insurgents. If Karzai, who comes from the same Pashtun community from which the Taliban spring, can gain any leverage with the Shura, he will have gone some way to eroding Taliban leader Mullah Omar's power base.

It is not a strategy of which the Americans, who view the Taliban through the emotional prism of 9/11, approve. Members of the Shura include prominent ex-Taliban figures such as former Supreme Court chief justice Maulvi Noor Mohammad Saqib and the former minister for repatriation Haji Abdul Raqib – all hate figures in Washington. Nor do many of the northerners in Karzai's Tajik-dominated administration approve; any accommodation with the Pashtun Taliban would inevitably be at their expense.

Yet Karzai, like Brown, believes the war in the south cannot be won by military means alone. The whole southern border of Afghanistan lies next to the lawless tribal areas of Pakistan where the Pashtuns hold sway and even the Pakistani army no longer ventures. A large percentage of the fighters in the south are Pakistanis, and when the army monitors Taliban airwaves in the east of the country, virtually all of the combatants are from across the border. As with the Viet Cong, who used Laos and Cambodia as bases, the Taliban can always withdraw to Pakistan to replenish themselves and restock on supplies and men.

The Mujahedin don't need to fight major battles to defeat Nato. They never took a city against the Russians, yet their "shoot and scoot" guerrilla tactics won them huge popular support when the Russians replied with overwhelming firepower against fighters sheltering in civilian areas. The Taliban have already started to mix that tactic with ruses imported from Iraq: as well as roadside IEDs, suicide bombers have crossed the border to attack otherwise peaceful areas in Kabul and the north to divert men and resources.

Brown placed huge emphasis on the need for reconstruction, and he knows the war will never be won unless ordinary Afghans and the part-time Taliban fighting for £5 a day – the "tier 3" Taliban as he refers to them – can be convinced they will benefit from peace. The only way to do that is to win hearts and minds through reconstruction, yet that is extremely difficult in Helmand, not least because the Americans are the biggest donors and refuse to put in the sums needed until the Taliban have been defeated.

Brown announced that Britain will be providing £450m in aid between 2009 and 2012 on top of the £490m already spent rebuilding the country, yet it is a relatively small sum. One estimate is that in the year after Nato action started, the West spent one fiftieth of the amount it provided for reconstruction in Kosovo in the year after that conflict. And while NGOs such as the Halo Trust can function throughout 80% of the country, not all aid is welcome; anything that may win hearts and minds is particularly problematic. After the American army distributed warm clothes to children, the Taliban would come along and make bonfires of them. Infrastructure projects such as the Kabul-Kandahar highway dubbed "Baghdad alley" are endlessly sabotaged because they also have the military use of allowing troops to be moved more easily to Helmand.

Willoughby says the Afghans have "very modest expectations of the West, they don't expect big shiny schools and hospitals", but believes that the political importance of aid is huge. Although it can't be funnelled to the south, it can go to Pashtun areas, such as Herat in the west, so that southern Pashtuns begin to believe that a cessation of hostilities may benefit them rather than the Uzbeks and Tajiks who they perceive to dominate the Kabul government. Nato also needs to be more explicit about the aid it does distribute: Britain pays the salaries of 10% of Afghan teachers, but because the money comes via Kabul, few Afghans are aware of the fact.

The situation in the south hasn't been helped by the Nato allies' confused attitude towards narcotics production, which is at record levels in Helmand. Over 95% of the world's opium comes from the province and over 30% of the province is sustained by growing poppies, yet US ambassador William Wood and US co-ordinator for Afghan counter-narcotics Thomas Schweich have both pushed hard for crop-spraying, citing a recent United Nations report that found that most poppy farmers were relatively well-off. The British have looked on aghast, aware that effective counter-insurgency and the destruction of poppy production without a viable alternative are mutually exclusive.

So where to now? Again, Brown's idea of reaching out to the less committed combatants while also striking at the movement's leaders has already been enacted. The SBS assassinated the brutal Taliban commander Mullah Dadullah in Helmand in May, Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Osmani, the head of Taliban operations, was killed in a targeted air strike last year, while Mullah Obaidullah, the former Taliban defence minister, is now in custody in Pakistan.

The third arm of the exit strategy is also taking shape. The Afghan National Army (ANA) will be increased from 50,000 to 70,000 this year – not enough, but an improvement.

The importance attached to bolstering the image of the ANA was clear at the last week's siege of Musa Qala, where the allies stressed that the Afghans took the lead role in taking the symbolically important town – the last of four to be held by the Taliban this time last year. Whether the ANA can hold the town before the imminent snows arrive and the traditional fighting season stops will be vital.

The Taliban refuse to be bowed but there is no doubt that the bulk of their fighters are as tired of the conflict as ordinary Afghans and the soldiers of the British army. The lull in fighting that will accompany the crippling snows will give all sides pause for thought, not least the Nato allies and the government of Hamid Karzai. And with a change of government imminent in Washington, there may even be an accommodation between the Kabul administration and the Taliban that America could accept.

There was nothing fundamentally new in Brown's speech this week, but its tone and acceptance of some unpleasant realities was significant. "He said that we're in this for the long-haul, but I think this is the beginning of the end," said Willoughby. "We might leave 200 or 300 soldiers to train the Afghan army for 10 or 30 years, but if we still have 7,500 frontline troops there in a decade's time, then we will have failed."

Warriors of the faith

In the complicated ethnic make-up of Afghanistan, it is the Pashtuns of the south and east of the country who are leading the fighting against the Nato forces, especially in the Helmand province near Kandahar in the south.

Ironically, president Hamid Karzai is a Pashtun from Kandahar.

Like the Kurds and the Basques, the Pashtuns are a nation without a country.

Although they are often referred to as ethnic Afghans, half of the 40 million Pashtuns live in Pakistan, where they make up 15% of the population compared with 42% in Afghanistan, where they have long been the dominant ethnic grouping.

A warrior tribe whose ghazis, or warriors of the faith, expanded Islam into northern India by force, their ancient code of Pashtunwali is a traditional code of conduct and honour.

They have proved remarkably stubborn and see the current Afghan conflict as the fourth in a long line of conflicts with the British, who divided their nation when they imposed the North West Frontier between India and Afghanistan in 1893.

The Pashtuns have become well-known as the source of the Taliban, who were originally religious scholars from the madrassas of Kandahar, but became a political movement after the departure of the Russians from Afghanistan.

Although the term Taliban has subsequently become a more generic term which is used to denote any religious fighter in the country, the true Taliban are all originally Pashtun (although by no means all Pashtun are Taliban).



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  • Last Updated: 15 December 2007 10:51 PM
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1

BMCG,

15/12/2007 23:18:33
The answer to the question posed by the headline is simple: NO!
2

Richardinho,

16/12/2007 01:48:40
What the heck are we doing in afghanistan anyways?
It's their country, not ours-time for us to get out.

We failed to find Bin Laden, so lets get our troops home.
3

Cristo,

USA 16/12/2007 03:54:37
How many times to beat these diablos? Remember Lucifer, thrown down to earth and keep on spreading darkness?
4

Guga II,

Rockall 16/12/2007 03:57:46
People like Bliar and Brown are just too arrogant to learn from history. We may win the odd battle, but we will not win the war.

What are we in Afghanistan for anyway? Is it just to ensure that the oil pipeline gets built for the greater profit of Bush and his neocon business mates? We are not there to impose our values on the people. We should get our troops out now, and leave them to it to sort their own country out. We're not trying to get rid of Mugabe, so why should we be trying to reform Afghanistan?
5

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/12/2007 05:36:15
We will win the war because we know that it will not be us that win it - it will be the people of Afghanistan that reject the Taliban.
6

Selgovae,

Scottish Borders 16/12/2007 08:57:58
#5 "it will be the people of Afghanistan that reject the Taliban"

That would be the nice, clean, black and white solution that dreams are made of. But history tells us that if any solution is to be reached it will be done by wheeling and dealing. That there are signs that Brown is engaging in this process is encouraging.
7

Ricardo,

methil 16/12/2007 10:25:10
We were told 5 years ago the Taliban was Finished....so it seems the Taliban is not only back... but Winning.... We Deserve to get our Asses Kicked Good.... Taliban Supporters here should also attack us afterall the killings and Damage we have inflicted on their country...The Taliban are Afghan its their country.
8

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/12/2007 17:12:39
#6 "That would be the nice, clean, black and white solution that dreams are made of."

No, it's the necessary step that must be taken before 'wheeling and dealing' will have a chance. No deal will work if the people themselves don't reject the Taliban.

Like you I endorse engaging in this process - they are not mutually exclusive.
9

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/12/2007 17:23:59
#4 - "We're not trying to get rid of Mugabe..."

Of course not. Mugabe is implementing the Socialist dream, that being land distribution to 'the masses'. Removing him would be admitting that the 'holy grail' of Socialism is wrong - can't have that, eh?

As for 'Why are we in Afghanistan', I could forward hundreds of links showing the burying of womem neck-deep and their being 'stoned to death' among hundreds of thousands of other atrocities, but the 'terrorists may be useful as part of our anti-capitalist revolution' crowd wouldn't look at them anyway, being more comfortable in the 'pipeline' conspiracy blanket.
10

Guga II,

Rockall 16/12/2007 18:02:27
#9 Using your line of reasoning, we should be invading China to stop the genocide of the Tibetan people. See for your self one of the many example of this:

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350794/posts
11

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/12/2007 18:28:32
#10 - Guga

I'm sure that any positive effort to end the genocide against the Tibetan people would be met with the same derision, 'conspiracy theory' books, misrepresentation and 'anti-war' propaganda that has been leveled against the US, UK and others for ending Saddam's genocide of the Kurds in Iraq.

Following your line of reasoning, would you follow the 'UN' option and send in the crack UN team from the Bali global warming summit that 'agreed that nothing should be done - lets meet at a later date'?

Which option would you think that the Tibetans themselves would prefer?

BTW - I support China's eviction from Tibet just as I supported Saddam's eviction from the Kurdish lands and I'm very familiar with these pictures.
12

thewitness,

16/12/2007 23:06:55
Can we beat the Taliban?
Let's see? NATO v GANG... of smacked out, Kalashnikov touting pensioners, on Toyota (when the donkeys are on their day off) pick-ups!
This is not a war, it's just another oil/drugs con job!
13

Let's have the truth,

16/12/2007 23:51:41
# 9

"I could forward hundreds of links showing the burying of womem neck-deep and their being 'stoned to death' among hundreds of thousands of other atrocities".

....Yes, even from today's "Liberated" Afghanistan.

Don't kid yourself, these atrocities have not diminished under the new puppet Afghani government.
14

Farzad,

Iran 17/12/2007 08:52:17
Taliban ans Alqade were created by West . OLD FRIENDS ARE NOW NEW ENEMIES .
15

Mr Lucky,

My computer. 17/12/2007 09:05:35
Simple answer: yes.
16

Partan,

Fife 17/12/2007 13:39:12
#9
I don't get your logic.
You've either got a short or selective memory. Britain and the US were supporting the b - awful Taleban not so very long ago, just because they opposed the Soviets, who were also trying to implement the "socialist dream" you refer to.
I assume the Taleban were commiting their atrocities at that time too.
Don't kid yourself that we get involved in these wars because we're the good guys.
17

Sinnerman,

Another Planet 17/12/2007 15:15:27
I would suggest that we go 4-4-2, but we still need a consistent striker up front. We may struggle against their U17s away, but might just hold out for a draw at Hampden.
18

mike - across the pond,

history guga history.... 17/12/2007 15:56:44
heres a little history lesson guga... albeit a BITTER one for you to swallow...

YOU BRITS failed them before... as you did in the middle east... africa.... the orient.... and yes even here in america it took us 80+ years to begin to turn around your taint....

you tucked your tails and ran... and we are left today with an entire population who is only marginally capable of comprehending democracy... (please take a few minutes here to defend the shining virtues of Iran's "democracy" and their "constitution")...

as you failed africa, china, germany, and the soviets prior to that...

you have a long history of failure...

WE AMERICANS on the other hand, have a little BETTER record... Japan... post ww2 Germany... post ww2 phillipines...

maybe you could learn a little from our model... IF of course, you are willing to give it a chance...
19

Dáithí,

San Jose 17/12/2007 16:06:28
#16 – Partan said: (">")

> Britain and the US were supporting the b - awful Taliban not so very long ago, just because they opposed the Soviets, who were also trying to implement the "socialist dream" you refer to.

We were supporting the Mujahideen. Supporting the Mujahideen at that time was, and remains, the correct thing to do. Arabs who joined the Mujahideen were not excluded because of their radical religious beliefs, the only consideration was that they be willing to fight communism.

It was successful for it was certainly an element helping to lead to the collapse of the USSR, freeing Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. – leaving them free to join the EU.

After the Soviets left a void existed which allowed the more radical members formed the Taliban and implemented their Shira law on the country.

So, using the logic that ‘the US created the Taliban’, you could also say that ‘the Taliban is responsible for creating the EU that you have today’.

You're welcome.
20

mike - across the pond,

farzad 17/12/2007 16:13:02
Al Queda and the Taleban were NOT created by the west...

generously speaking that is an interesting twist on the truth...\

the TRUTH as stated in the article... was that both AlQueda and the roots of the Taleban existed prior to the russians invasion in the late 70's... and while they were aided significantly by the west in their struggle against soviet expanionism, they were not CREATED by the west...

there is a SIGNIFICANT difference that is being missed between the soviet occupation and the coalition presence... it is told by the NUMBERS involved... the Soviet occupation was numbered in the hundreds of thousands... the coalition presence is nowhere near that... that fact alone simply speaks to the goals...

the Russians were going by the Iron Curtain model..
we are simply trying to install a democracy... so we can come home...

and farzad, you may think that Putin is your friend, but be VERY careful with whom you embrace as friends, sometimes what they leave behind is not exactly what you bargained for... (think chernobyl)
21

busybee,

California 17/12/2007 17:17:43
The Taliban are a very wide spread terrorist group. But have they beaten us yet? No.
And don't be so naive to think they plan on staying within the confinds of Afghanistan if coalition forces pulled out... well, they've already spilled outside obviously... They plan on killing the Western way of life, and bringing their harsh and twisted Islamic rule to the masses. Can we allow ourselves to beaten by the Taliban? No.
22

Taz,

The Land of the Free. 17/12/2007 21:24:55
Who is we? The Brits were just run out of Basra now they are talking about beating the Taliban. You people need to go home. The British Army does not belong on a modern battlefield. When they arrive at an American base they are like a bunch of Locusts. If it isn't nailed down it disappears. If you can't equip them, don't deploy them.
23

57Nomad,

california 17/12/2007 23:46:25
The taliban are a group of thugs. Their specialty is burning down girls schools and stoning women who venture outside the house without a male member of the family with them or being clad in something other than a burqa. They are not particularly good soldiers and they are not all Afghanis.

Yes, we can beat them. We already have beaten them, we haven't exterminated them yet, but are surely beaten.
24

Ricardo,

methil 23/12/2007 12:04:28
Short memories....The US was the Taliban best supporter When the Taliban was beating the USSR.... The Taliban will beat the Brits and the US.... The Taliban already control a majority of the country .. after being destroyed 5 years ago.

 

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