In one working day a Heavy Goods Vehicle provides the government over £100 in fuel tax. The 2p increase adds £5 per day to each vehicle. VAT is then added at 17.5%. This cost is eventually passed to everyone who eats, wears clothes and buys goods from a shop, garage, everywhere. That is why our prices are so much higher than other countries.
There are 450 thousand British H.G.V.'s but this figure is decreasing rapidly. Foreign H.G.V.'s fill up the cheap fuel from abroad, come over and work in our country, using our roads, while contributing nothing to our economy.
Hauliers and their families eat, wear clothes and buy goods from shops, garages, everywhere. They don't need to demonstrate, block motorways or do anything illegal, they could just park their H.G.V. up

The folks who have so selfishly decided to pick our pockets with gas prices don't seem to know that there is a limit to this madness. They need trade to be cheap to create a steady income for themselves.

It has shot up here these last few days. Unleaded is at eu1.45 and diesel at eu1.32.
So unleaded is over 100 pence per litre here in Germany and diesel coming in at 92.4 ppl
What IS the price at UK (supermarket) garages at the moment?

#1 - What?? Park up and give foreign competition access to existing customers. When price is king with Supermarkets who think nothing of utilising sub-contractors who will themselves sub-contract to firms from outside the UK who pay less attention to the rules, how will that do anything but further damage the sector?

Everyone knows the root cause is the retailers price cutting - it needs a united front to get the message home, not 1 or 2 hauliers who could get picked off.

Despite the fuel prices, the owners of the lorries are still driving around in their Bentleys and Mercs whilst paying their lorry drivers about £7 an hour. That'll be why the poor men are having to work long hours and dodge the working time regulations.

#5 The owners of the lorries driving Bentleys and Mercs which you know may have been astute enough to diversify into a business in which the government does not tax its operating costs.

Our government is fiddling whilst Britain is burning.

#4 The hauliers profit margins have been insufficient to absorb this continual taxation for some time now and the customer will inevitably choose the cheaper rate. Only when our government notices that the milk has run dry will it realise its folly in milking the cow until it is on its knees. If hauliers park up, for many, it will be on a permanent basis

#6
That'll be the milking business that you're referring to, milking their drivers.

#6. M.T.

The second most cosseted group in the UK.

They
1.operate 44t vehicles that do NOT PAY THEIR FULL COSTS
2. Had the vehicle taxation sliced a few years ago even though at that time they were not covering their costs
3.They park up overnight in every available lay by again at our cost.
4.They overlaod their lorries again at our cost.
5.They use red diesel to avoid full fuel tax

6.They exceed the speed limits especially on single carriageway roads.
7. The stupid Alec and the Renegades are to build them a Dual carriageway road for the A9 (£600MILLION AT LEAST) so they can increase their speed to 60mph but will yet again exceed their speed limits. Dualing is not for the motorist so don't be fooled .

The road hauliers fuel you all. IF they don't pay their full costs YOU PAY. The quicker we get this heavy traffic back onto rail the better. Improving the A9 would be unnecessary nor building a second Forth Road Bridge nor strengthening the existing bridge etc etc.

How is it the hauliers can block roads etc without fear of prosecution. When the coal miners did it they were quickly removed (violently in most cases) so that road hauliers could shift traffic in and out of coal stocks and open mines.

Miners were removed because they were engaged in secondary picketing and or causing an obstruction.
This is exactly what these hauliers are proposing they should be stopped.

The transport industry is heavily regulated and strictly enforced. At least the British H.G.V.'s are.

In one working day, an H.G.V. can legally carry 100, 200, 300+ tonnes of aggregates depending on the duration of the journeys. Aggregates Tax is £1.60 per tonne.

In one working day, an H.G.V. can legally carry 100, 200, 300+ tonnes of waste depending on the duration of the journeys
Landfill Tax is £21.00 per tonne

Love a lorry!

In one working day, it can provide the government with sufficient revenue for the state pension of one O.A.P. for one year

#10 MT.
Your point is?

#11
The point is

Love a lorry!

In one working day, it can provide the government with sufficient revenue for the state pension of one O.A.P. for one year

So that makes it OK for the owners to pay the drivers peanuts so that they have to fiddle their tacho cards and digi cards?

#13

The transport industry is heavily regulated and strictly enforced. At least the British H.G.V.'s are.

I n the early 1970’s we had an oil embargo which heralded in rationing. This was a good exercise. We are now facing a potential for oil continuing to rise in price over the coming years, plus rationing. Where the price will stop nobody knows. The oil economy and haulage contractors are history.

petrol is not expensive it is only about 40p a litre its the damn tax that is expensive

#3 Cheapest where I am is Diesel at around 99p/litre in town and unleaded around 96p/litre. That is in supermarkets, BP will of course be a lot more, and the others not far behind.

"Lorry drivers brought motorways and city centres to a standstill and fuel depots were blockaded."

should read:
Lorry drivers and right-wing farmers...

Can someone explain what the gripe is? Oil prices go up, prices go up, get used to it. Why should taxes on oil be reduced? What tax should be put up to replace the lost revenue? Why not increase carbon-based fuel taxes in a predictable ramp, and use the revenue to get rid of VAT, National Insurance, Income Tax and Corporation Tax, which we all hate? I don't understand what the basis is for being angry.

#8 - i believe they are looking for comedians at the festival next year. You might even be lucky and get a job as a clown at the children's festival.

by reducing costs for hauliers we all benefit through cheaper products. If the A9 is dualled the lorries will not be holding up motorists any more, I'm not sure how you think they will manage to exceed 60 mph when they are (stupidly) limited to 56mph. (by the way their limit is only 50 on a dual carriageway, it's 60 on a motorway).

Maybe putting freight onto the rails is the long-term answer but our railway system is in as bad a state as the roads, it would require a lot of investment and many freight depots to be built.