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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 00:31:26

What a waste of chocolate....solution....hand it over to chicks that don't have nut allergies, I'm sure they will do their bit on this and be grateful to you for it :)

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Scaramouche,

11/02/2007 00:37:07

#1. When you say "chicks", you're not talking about baby hens with bird flu are you???

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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 00:52:08

Comment@2 Scaramouche.....no :)

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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 00:53:20

although I'm sure its probably safer than what baby hens with bird flu are being fed :)

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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 01:07:05

Comment@5 ......What about the chocolate :)

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Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 01:07:29

Not been a good year for Cadbury's! However, if they send me a free box of dairy milk I'll sing their praises! ;)

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Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 01:08:40

6 - Scottwebb - that was below the belt (obviously!) even for you! ;)

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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 01:19:27

Comment@8 Bill, your right mate....my apologies.......heres a cream egg as a peace offering :)

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Mom,

11/02/2007 01:35:21

As a parent of a child with a DEADLY allergy to peanuts it is a shame that people make such comments. I have read these comments on the message board and it seems that people are unaware of the seriousness of this issue that could kill my two year old son in a heartbeat. If they were aware then I can't imagine that they would make such cruel and insulting remarks. I can't decide if they are meant to be jokes or if people are just uneducated. Without newreleases such as these from Cadbury and other manufacturers it could mean that thousands of people if not more die from taking one bite of the offending food that was processed on the wrong equipment and or labeled incorrectly. Now this is something that is news worthy as opposed to who is having relations with who and who fathered who's offspring!

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www.scottwebb.co.uk,

11/02/2007 02:02:27

Comment@12 Horrible Cankers...totally agreed
Comment@11 Mom, i fully understand and know friends that have children with allergies and the stress for both parents and kids alike
Here is a link that is well worth reading on the subject.....http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefings/gm_alergies.pdf

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Bill, Dunblane,

11/02/2007 02:35:08

11 - Mom

Fully understand.

It's a very Scottish thing - if we didn't laugh, we would cry. (and God knows, we have plenty to cry about) Sometimes it's better to laugh.

I'm sure nobody on this thread underestimates the dangers, all of us have friends who....

To go slightly deeper, I was recently at the wedding of a very dear friend, who has a severe and potentially fatal allergy to nuts - the best man's speach included a passage about his friends playing Russian roulette by offering him 'Revels' (a chocolate covered sweet that can have several centres including peanuts) Got the biggest laugh of the night, but we all knew how very serious it was.

Good luck and best wishes to you and your son.

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doublescotch,

11/02/2007 03:45:30

# 6with whipped cream and cherries......yummy then horrible cankers could give up her fags

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Guga,

Rockall 11/02/2007 05:18:39

What I want to know is why there is such a growth of allergic reactions to things like nuts.

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11/02/2007 05:47:18
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jim lad,

the capital 11/02/2007 07:11:56

To be fair to Cadbury they must have known there was going to be a problem because their t v ad warned us all THEY ARE ON THE STREETS

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heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 09:58:35

Surely it's common sense.

Those with nut allergies, avoid this product.
Send any iffy ones to me and I promise they will be disposed of properly.

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Scaramouche,

11/02/2007 10:41:43

#11. Mom. My oldest son has a few allergies (not nuts) which are very dangerous to him, so I understand where you're coming from. But if you worry about it all the time and don't lighten up, you're in danger of being over-protective and your child will have a less than normal life. My wife and I had to learn that lesson and it was hard.

#14 is right though. If you don't laugh, you'll be crying. Don't know if it is a particularly Scottish thing. What he says is correct.

Good luck to you and your child. Just don't let it get you so far down that you can't enjoy what life throws at you.

#19. Have you ever played Chuckachoccy?? You get 4 or 5 people round, all sit in chairs, get a choccy in your palm and start flipping it round each other. The person who drops it first has to eat it. Then you get another choccy and start again.

Fun for all the family!

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heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 11:09:17

20 Scaramouche

SHARE? CHOCOLATE? gasp!

21 Horrible Cankers....that goes for you too, hen

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Swilly Tisher,

Loch Maree 11/02/2007 11:15:36

If a single ounce of this delicious Cadbury chocolate is wasted , it'll be a national disgrace. There must be single mums - and other needy people - who could benefit from the recall. I know nut allergies - in hugely rare cases - can prove fatal. But I do wonder if the whole business has gone way too far. I put it in the same category as political correctness and (for the large part), mythical global warming.Eat your chocolate before it melts in all that lovely sunshine we're all going to be basking in.Or feed it to the midges - if it's also going to get a little wetter from time to time.

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heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 11:28:10

Aye, Horrible Cankers, yir on.
Only after eating 12 pund o the stuff mind, aye each.

First no tae boak.

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heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 11:37:44

Och, tae hell lass, mind and no stand ower near the heater...you micht bliddy melt.

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Elaine,

Dunfermline 11/02/2007 11:41:28

How on earth can anyone call any product of Cadbury's "chocolate" when you look at the amount of cocoa solids it contains. Now if it had been proper chocolate, I should have been desolate.

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Tam O'Shanter,

11/02/2007 11:43:46

I am uncomfortabe with the present system where you have to assume the item is nut free unless warned otherwise. The packaging and labeling should be positive and state the product is certified safe for consumption by people who have allergies.

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JG,

Fife 11/02/2007 11:44:58

Step aside ladies - a REAL chocolate eater has arrived! Whaur's my share? I fantasise about that chocolate fountain deal I saw Dawn French do on "The Vicar of Dibley". Braw!!!!!

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heather fae the hills,

fair drookit 11/02/2007 11:46:43

28 Elaine...Horrible Cankers and I are willing to dispose of the meagre amount of cocoa solids Cadbury's will provide...for the Health Of The Nation and all that.

Bravely.

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Swilly Tisher,

Loch Maree 11/02/2007 12:20:34

If you think Cadbury chocolate is bad (and , I assuredly DON'T) , you want to taste the inferior Hershey version from the USA. The homegrown stuff dissolves deliciously on the tongue - unlike its cloying cousin from across the Atlantic. I go weak at the knees at the very sight of the Cadbury logo. To catch a whiff of a freshly-opened bar is to experience a degree of ecstasy almost without parallel. Available in all reputable outlets this Sabbath Day (which regrettably excludes some of the smaller stores in bible-thumping areas of the North West Highlands.)

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JG,

Fife 11/02/2007 12:40:15

#33 HC
My pal was in that chocolate club and I got to try some of the chocs they sent her - they were absolutely massive. You be hard pushed to manage any more than two at the wan sitting - no withoot getin' the boak anyway!

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JG,

Fife 11/02/2007 13:03:52

I'll no have tae worry aboot being checked in case I'm anorexic anyway!!!

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Saltire,

Thailand 11/02/2007 13:33:39

Well done Cadbury's. It is good to see any manufacturer biting the bullet no matter what the cost.
Of course this is a serious matter and I think an article explaining to people like myself why there is such a massive increase in such reactions would be a good follow up to this.
As far as the jokes go.....I have to agree that it is a Scottish thing. It does not insult or minimise the importance of this condition. It is just our way of dealing with it.

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Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 13:54:09

Whatever happened to Pyramints?

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Andrew,

11/02/2007 14:19:39

and "Texan" and "Aztec" bars??

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Erse,

Middle East 11/02/2007 14:21:50

Chelsea Whoppers?

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Joseph, Clinton, Tennessee,

11/02/2007 16:40:16

#29, Tam O'Shanter, Very good observation. If something is free of nuts or whatever, it should be positively marked as such, rather than requiring companies to warn of every possible ingredient that might cause someone an allergic reaction. I see BREAD with wheat allergy warning labels.

#11, Mom, I am very sorry about your child's condition and wish you good things. But your reaction to the posts that preceeded you was a little overboard. The eggs were not made on the wrong equipment, and unless the label said they were safe for people with nut allergies, they were not mislabelled. Since you have no sense of humour about the subject, I will not try to lighten you up. Men laugh at deadly subjects because it releases the same endomorphs as crying, but you can still fight when you are laughing. Most women and liberal girly-men prefer to cry. If you want to be angry at someone's insensitivity, read on:

#16, Guga, There are more people with allergies these days, because in the past, they would have died soon after birth. I am not being cruel -- I am glad we can save people with such afflictions. But as in every other area of life, a tiny minority of people are dictating to the majority (and the majority are not even allowed to joke about it).

Many schools in the US don't let children bring a peanut butter sandwich (the very favorite of most kids) for lunch anymore because a kid with allergies might have a reaction from being in the room with another kid's PBJ. The non-allergic are punished for the allergic. I have a hint for the allergic -- if a candy company makes any candy with nuts in it, then you shouldn't eat any of their candy, because it was probably made in the same factory.

The real problem is the g--d----- lawyers.

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Jackie,

At home drinking blackcurrant and elderberry tea. 11/02/2007 18:17:30

Ok, I can understand the concer of those with nut allergies. But what about those who do not?

I do like Cadbury's Creme eggs but as I prefer Galaxy chocolate, will just have to force myself to stick to those this year. (sigh)

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Harry Carnie,

British Columbia, Canada. 11/02/2007 18:51:38

#32 Swilly Tisher...You are Right 100%.
It makes me drool if the Cadbury bars THERE ,still have the taste and quality ..that they ONCE HAD here.
Do not single out Hershey ..Cadbury ..ALL our North American chocolates are $hit. With the exeption of a few small independents.
My wife and I are chocoholics..we buy Belgium, Swiss, Italian..costs a bit more..BUT yummy!!

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Buckfastleigh,

11/02/2007 20:03:59

Why eat chocolate? Go nuts instead; it's better for your waste line.

If you do eat it, please recycle all wrappers, or better still take them to a "no win - no fee" lawyer first.

Cadbury's must have been really worried about litigation for trace damages.

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E. Smith,

Texas 11/02/2007 20:12:35

Applause should go to the clever page editor who wrote this article's headline along with all the readers who shared their puns as well. Perhaps this piecee will remind readers to purchase Cadbury chocolates since the firm graciously owned up to the mistake.

What's a Texan candy bar, by the way?

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Guga,

Rockall 11/02/2007 20:17:34

I love Hershey bars. Anyway, chocolate from most countries is far superior to the kid-on chocolate they sell in this country. Remember, at one point, the EC were trying to get them to label the stuff in this country honestly. And the label would not have said chocolate.

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Buckfastleigh,

11/02/2007 20:47:09

46# you are absolutely right. Cadbury's use all sort of fats to eek out thair vegetable emulsions and apparently this is pleasing to the English.

With all that theobroma crop around the poor countries in the tropics it would be far better if manufacturers like Cadbury's only used cacao, a sustainable crop, for their bars of brown stuff.

Still, you and I have a wide choice of real chocolate available at a little more cost from other chocolate loving countries in Europe and elsewhere. But even there muck like "nutella" etc is apparently outselling the real stuff.

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Larkie lass,

Arizona 11/02/2007 21:07:57

Nothing beats the real cadbury choc. even go as far as to eat the foostie stuff they sell at the brit store here, (but only when am really desperate, like PMS-in 34 days a month.;-)

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AJ,

Fife 11/02/2007 21:40:43

Am a Galaxy man masel! Started with the wee counters 35 years ago and now continues with the multi packs oot o' Tescos!!

Still have ma ain teeth tae!

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loosechat.net,

Shoe Heaven 11/02/2007 21:42:22

I've got the munchies for a fruit and nut right now.
It's my own fault, I'm like a moth to a flame with all things chocolate.

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loosechatnet,

world of my own 11/02/2007 21:42:52

I would just like to say, we have a little forum, and every day we automatically get an article from the Scotsman to debate. The only thing is, we end up laughing so hard at all you scotsman forumers! Its so good to 'hear' the banter and it makes me miss home a lot!

You are all very welcome at our place, the clue is in my name! lol

Oh, as for Cadbury's, the chocolate shouldnt be wasted, that is just silly. There are many people in the country only too willing to sample it and make sure its ok.

:-)

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john sleossor laybourne,

luton 11/02/2007 22:14:22

I feel sorry for cadbury's they are a good company, but however unfortunate accidents will happen.

I also admit maybe they do not realize how serious this allergy has become.

Do, I understand 1 in 70 children, that this has now reached the situation that it will soon become a major killer in our society,


Our food manufacturers are not at fault. It is up to our health service to find out WHY WHY WHY this allergy has become so common in our younsters.

If we do not find out(as is the case) other allergic reactions to what were common products will increase

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Scotswoman's grandaughter,

US 11/02/2007 22:26:54

#'s 32 & 46: You are right - the chocolate I like best comes from elswhere than US, although there are times when almost any choco bar or little flattened round candies with a letter stamped on them will suffice in a pinch. Someone (#47) mentioned 'Nutella' - I can't even buy it because I'd eat it and look like a Nutella jar! Oh, and it doesn't come under the heading of chocolate in my house! #41: You sound as if you've been in the school cafeteria where there is one table pushed out of the mainstream for NO PEANUT BUTTER EATERS, and anyone who sits there must never have peanut breath.
Anyway, the reason for this note is to tell you how much fun you all sound - wish you lived right on my street. I quite enjoyed laughing along with you - a hearty laugh is a good dose of endorphines, too! Chuckachoccy? Oh, my: I'm chock full of chuckles (groan) over that one. A must activity the next time the wee ones come over. (I'll have to wash the floor, though)
PS: Cadbury bought (?) a candy factory near here: the aroma on the days the nuts are roasted is heavenly! Wonder if that provokes an allergic reaction?!?

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Di,

11/02/2007 22:41:02

It is exposure to everyday chemicals in modern life that is causing the rash of allergies. Everything from shampoos (150 chemicals) , synthetic clothes and furnishings, food and drinks, air quality etc etc

Shows up first in kids and those with genetic tendencies. They are the canaries in the mine shaft, warning the rest of us of the danger ahead. Lots of todays illnesses are the result of this.

It is not that hard to clean up your life and improve your health. All the information you could ever want is at your fingertips.

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Buckfastleigh,

11/02/2007 22:56:17

I have just found a bar of Cadbury's at the bottom of my trunk which I placed in the roof some years ago.

It was found after a hunch that paid off though hoarding fine chocolate is not a City investor's habit.

One question only remains is it safe to eat or should I realize the latent added value and auction it on e-bay?

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Riognach,

in NY wishing I were back in sunny Australia! 11/02/2007 23:10:44

I've had Godiva...it's pleasant, but waaaay too expensive! Hersey's is nasty. Just nasty and sugary. Give me Swiss dark chocolate anyday.

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The Wizard,

OZ 11/02/2007 23:40:00

Bill, Dunblane.

That's twice thou hast referred to "The Big Yin"
"Him Upstairs' in this edition and I thought you didn't believe.
How is the Hydro going these days?

Lees Macaroon, Giant Crunchies, Maltesers and a fumble in the back row.
These were a few of my favourite things.
I can only just remember them.

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Murray in Canada,

British Columbia 12/02/2007 00:06:55

I'm just curious to know why the contamination took place. Why aren't peanutty things manufactured in a separate building, for goodness sake??

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Alphonzo,

Southland, USA 12/02/2007 00:19:53

I love chocolate, but especially semi-sweet, dark chocolate, and Hershey's "Special Dark" is pretty good, especially with a good bourbon. Generally though I must agree, most N. American chocolate is too sweet and not very good. Godiva is very good but as others have mentioned it's quite expensive. Of course though it isn't always true that you get what you pay for, you will pay for what you get. The main reason Hershey's, Nestle's, (and yes, Cadbury's) isn't better is that to make it better would cost more. The (retail) price would have to go up, and most folks here would cheap out and buy something else. I have had some wonderful European chocolates but don't get them often because they are just too darn expensive, at least over here. Besides, I have a wonderful brownie recipe and usually keep some of them around, and they're better than anything I can buy.

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Bill, Dunblane,

12/02/2007 00:36:38

57 - Wiz

Sorry, no equivocation - I'm an absolute atheist - just use of common language.

Did you get my reply last night re: the 'emigre'?

The Hydro has changed hands so many times over the past few years that it is something of an anomaly. I've only ever been up for a meal and a drink once during my 10 years here. (still paying off the bank loan!)

Don't know where you are in Oz, but when I was last there 10 years ago (can it be so long? - sigh!) there was a shop in the Frankston shopping centre that sold ALL of the things you mention - even things that are difficult to find in Scotland now. (except the sticky finger bit!) ;)

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Anna in Aus,

Australia 12/02/2007 00:47:15

Scottish humour. I must say that is what I miss the most now that I am on the other side of the planet. It is certainly not the weather that I miss!

As someone who has experienced 3 anaphalactic reactions in the past 2 years I can understand the concerns people have - especially those with children. I rely heavily on the accuracy of food labelling and have suffered many times because of companies’ lax attitudes to it.

Something that compounds the stress of taking your life into your hands each time you eat is the total lack of compassion and understanding by a number of rude people who refuse to acknowledge the seriousness of it. I am so grateful when someone is helpful and understanding when I am trying to avoid allergens – it absolutely makes my day.

Ignorant comments like "The non-allergic are punished for the allergic." (#41) are not helpful - no-one chooses to have a life threatening allergy. That is like blaming people who are in car accidents for 'punishing' the rest of us and 'making' us wear seatbelts.

My allergies are caused by all of the chemicals that companies put into products to make them more appealing to people (ie. yellow colouring - that causes asthma - is put in most dairy products to make them look 'more creamy'). How do I know this? Having removed the majority of them from my life I am now much better and have never felt so healthy in my entire life. I would encourage everyone (with or without allergies) to try it.

For people searching for answers to any allergy or food intolerance (often mistaken for allergy) problems look up the 'failsafe' diet by Sue Dengate/RPAH (Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Allergy Specialist Unit in Sydney, Australia). http://fedupwithfoodadditives.info/ It takes some dedication but it works – have a read of peoples’ stories to see how much it has changed their and their kids, lives.

Personally I am sick

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The Wizard,

OZ 12/02/2007 02:28:28

#60 Bill

In south of WA, a wee bit far to go for a macaroon bar or an Irn Bru.

Lived in Alva, the Hydro was the 'in' place way back in the dark days of my youth when going to dances was normal.

Doak's in Falkirk, Plaza in Stirling, Town Hall in Alloa with 'The Clyde Valley Stompers'.

No head banging and funny fags in those days.

On the subject of the forum, I am saving up pills just in case and "her indoors" feels the same way.

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The Wizard,

OZ 12/02/2007 02:31:06

Bill

That should have read --on the subject of the right to die forum.


 

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