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Published Date:
13 August 2006
SCOTTISH transport chiefs want the number and size of the nation's road signs reduced in an attempt to crackdown on roadside "clutter" spoiling the environment.
New rules issued to road designers and local councils by Transport Scotland will see groups of signs combined to make them less confusing for drivers and less intrusive on the Scottish countryside.

Transport Scotland's new guide to keeping the ro
adside clutter-free, Road Furniture in the Countryside, calls on planners to:

• Combine groups of signs into a single placard and crack down on superfluous ones;

• Scrap the bright orange backgrounds on some signs;

• Make them smaller and less high;

• Paint the grey metal legs of road signs a colour which will blend in with the background so that the signs appear to "float" amid the undergrowth;

• Paint the rear of signs green or another "camouflage" colour so that they do not clash with the scenery;

• Remodel crash barriers in more natural-looking colours so that they look like part of the landscape.

The report said: "There is growing concern about the visual effects caused by the proliferation of signs and other items along roads in the Scottish countryside.

"Those involved in the design and installation of road furniture must be encouraged to recognise that, while ensuring that roads are safe and function effectively is a fundamental aim, protecting and enhancing the rural environment is also important. These objectives need not be mutually exclusive."

The guidance orders planners to ensure that other "roadside furniture", such as bus shelters, should not clash with the scenery. It recommends discreet wooden bus shelters rather than "inappropriate" metal, concrete and glass ones, especially for rural Scotland.

A Transport Scotland spokeswoman said: "Sign life is generally regarded as 10 years and improvements in the design and installation will apply as signs are renewed. Because there will be fewer and smaller signs, the guidance is expected to save costs over time and deliver environmental benefits including the enhancement of Scotland's landscape as viewed from the road."

Bill Wright, the director of the Association for the Protection of Rural Scotland, said: "I welcome this report and I think it is a step in the right direction. There are some big motorway-style signs in some remote parts of rural Scotland which really are way over the top. They are much bigger than they need to be, and so I welcome any attempt to bring them under control. The only criticism I have is this document seems to ignore the growing issue of private road signs and the huge signs set up in fields. Some of these are real scars in the Scottish countryside and they should be controlled."

Neil Gregg, head of policy for the AA in Scotland, said: "There is an issue with information overload because of so many signs and we'd all welcome less clutter and more clarity. The only thing which makes me wonder is what they want to do with crash barriers and fences. Some of this document seems to be hinting that crash barriers might go altogether in some cases and that would be worrying, especially since 70% of road deaths in Scotland are on rural roads."

In February, the RAC highlighted the proliferation of signs on the UK's roads and called for a crackdown on their spread. Surveys by the RAC Foundation claimed that more than half of UK motorists admit to not understanding even basic signs in the Highway Code and over half admit to getting lost during holiday journeys.

It called for signage at locations with a history of collisions to be examined to ensure that it is legible and simple to follow. It also wants lane signs to be erected - or road surfaces marked - much further back from all multi-lane entries to tell drivers which lane they need to get into.



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1

Dav,

13/08/2006 04:26:21

Idiots! Who are these people? Why are they on the payrole? Why are they allowed to take public money?
Sack them now. Do us all a favour and get rid of them. What planet are the from?

If they applied their attentions to the more worrying fact that there are drivers out there that havn't grasped the basics of the Highway code instead of apologising for them they might be worth a fraction of their salaries.

Stop this madness.

2

Roy,

13/08/2006 08:58:42

A good start would be for local authorities, etc., to clamp down on all the illegal flyposters who place advertising placards on posts, trailers, etc around both urban and rural areas.

Too many areas are blighted by commercial concerns who are two lazy, too mean and too irresponsible to stick to legitimate means of advertising their businesses. Phone them to complain - you'll find that they are pretty arrogant so don't expect them to be polite. Boycott them! Get your friends and neighbours to boycott them! And hound your council to get the finger out.

3

Gnasher,

Rutherglen 13/08/2006 09:55:58

There's a Fatal Flaw in the idea of making the grey metal legs of these signs invisible - pedestrians and wildlife will walk into them, especially if they're drunk, and hurt their heads. Think again before it's too late!

4

Allen,

Derbyshire 13/08/2006 10:30:01

Exellent idea. Great for the best part of Britain.

5

Neil,

Edinburgh 13/08/2006 10:46:51

Please don't make the signs smaller! I can barely see them as it is.

6

sicasapig,

SLEEPERCAB 13/08/2006 17:56:19

SCOTLAND HAS NOT GOT A CLUE HOW TO SITE SIGNS ANYWAY JUST LOOK HOW MANY ARE SITED OPPOSITE THE TURNINGS AND NOT ON THE APPROACH THE SAME WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISLANDS NO DIRECTIONS UNTIL YOU ARE LEAVING THE ISLAND.NOT TO BE RECCOMENDED IF YOU DONT KNOW THE AREA

7

BrightSpark,

13/08/2006 18:38:12

Yeah great idea - and who exactly will be expected to pick up the additional revenue costs involved in maintaining all these paint finish surfaces? Also, I think you will find that road signs simply cannot be 'made smaller' - there are regulations that govern these things!
How about consulting with roads engineers before coming up with these hair-brained schemes?

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peteedinburgh,

14/08/2006 12:31:38

Rather than make crash barriers look nice can we make them safe first.

They are designed to slow then stop cars and in order to do this are mounted on legs to get the barrier at about the same height of a car centre of gravity. Fine if you are in a car but there are a lot of motorcyclists on the roads and when they fall off or get knocked off they slide along the ground. Right into the steel legs of the barrier which are then very efficient at removing limbs, heads etc.

There are designs that place a softer material at ground level to prevent this problem. Surely that's more impotant than a pretty coour.

Oh and before the uneducated start to talk about natural selection removing bikers being a good thing, then lets remember the "sorry I didn't see you" brigade and also the tendency of overfilled buses to dump slippy diesel on the road.

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peteedinburgh,

14/08/2006 12:35:09

PS - don't get me started on worn metal man hole covers or high friction road surfaces that stop half way round a bend .........

10

David n' Goliath,

Edinburgh. 14/08/2006 15:47:45

Let's get the road surfaces mended first. I'm so busy avoiding suspension knackering, teeth jarring potholes, ruts, sunken manhole covers and the like that I don't have time to look at signs. Some of the roads in North Edinburgh and through Leith are like a war zone, dangerous enough on four wheels, lethal on two!


 

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