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Published Date: 21 January 2007
LAST Friday night Scotland on Sunday hosted its debate on the Union, which was a spirited and successful occasion, with the audience fully engaged.
The two contenders, Nicola Sturgeon of the SNP and Wendy Alexander for Labour, both made passionate and eloquent speeches. This was a memorable encounter, with the Nationalists winning the day on an audience vote.

We remain committed to our decla
red neutrality on this issue. We are waiting, like most Scots, to be convinced one way or the other, on the merits of the competing claims. But before the country goes to the polls, there must be a rational analysis of the options for Scotland's future.

With just 102 days to go until polling, there are signs this crucial election is being hijacked by unrelated issues, especially Iraq. This is understandable. Iraq is a very important issue: many thousands have lost their lives. We have often shared, in this editorial column, our readers' concerns. But it should not be the determining factor in an election for the Scottish Parliament. Yet Labour is struggling to get its case for the Union across because of public resentment over the Iraq war.

That the Nationalists should exploit disillusionment with Tony Blair and his foreign policy is understandable, but they also have a responsibility to make their case that Scotland would be a better, richer, happier nation under independence, and not rely on triggering emotional reactions. They have to prove that our schools would improve, not decline; that our hospitals would function better, not struggle; that our whole standard of living would not only be maintained, but enhanced.

With Wendy Alexander and her colleagues claiming a deficit of £11.2bn under independence, the SNP must persuasively counter that claim. It will not do so by exploiting resentment over Iraq. Like the rest of the nation, we are open to persuasion; but where's the beef?

For so long as Tony Blair remains Prime Minister, it is to be feared the election will be dominated by Iraq and Trident. The SNP could make the legitimate point that, had Scotland been independent, we would not have been embroiled in Iraq. But it remains peripheral to the central question: how would we live in a separate Scotland?

Labour is struggling in this election. Its problems are compounded by the dilemma of its incoming leader, Gordon Brown, who is engaged in a Janus-faced exercise to prove his credentials as both Scottish and British. Most recently, this has led to his farcical emergence as an England football supporter. He is tying himself in knots and discrediting his cause in the process.

We have already warned this election must not be a protest vote. If the Nationalists make the case for independence convincingly, so be it. But the crucial decision to break with the Union should only be made because the electorate has truly been persuaded independence would lead to a better life, not because voters want to punish Labour. We have 102 days to confront the real issues and determine our future.



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Bill, Dunblane,

21/01/2007 01:07:24

'We remain committed to our declared neutrality on this issue.'

Huh?

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=101282007

Aye, right! - Yer kiddin' naebody!

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Frodo the Scot,

calton creek WEST 21/01/2007 06:36:17

2nd day of independance declare war on the USA, like japan and germany, after 3 days surrender, sign a treaty with the Americans at Auchtermuchty and apply for US aid. Problem solved. WHO needs england?

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bratachdubh,

21/01/2007 11:18:31

"Of the roughly 100 members of the public who turned out to the debate, slightly fewer than two-thirds said at the end of the debate that they wanted to end the Union, the rest – with the exception of three don’t knows – plumped for the status quo."

Slightly distorted... and your current poll's going the way of all the others, with 3/4 wanting an Independent Scotland.

When that happens, who are you going to sell your papers to?

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Denise,

Shetland 21/01/2007 12:39:57

Thought the neutrality claim was quite amusing too, this paper goes out of its way to look for negative headlines about independence, and against this sort of blatant unionist bias, there's little chance of a fair debate!

EXAMPLE:It's just as important for Labour to prove their ridiculous claims as it is for the SNP to fight them.

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Neil,

9% Growth Party 21/01/2007 13:32:12

Blogger review of the event.I was one of the 3 uncommitteds. http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/

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The Word,

In the Beginning 21/01/2007 14:46:17

The debate was unequal! All such debates are!

I have thought for a long time that (almost) all politicians are the same; all that varies is how long it takes to find them out – and we only do that when they're in power and must deliver.

New Labour are in power, have not delivered, and we have found them out. They have proven themselves to be lying, self-interested, and incompetent. They have no credibility left, so when they speak up in favour of the Union, few are going to believe them.

We have yet to find the SNP out, and so a lot of people are inclined to believe them when they tell us independence is our road to riches and happiness. The terrible prospect is that once we are independent we shall find they are just the same as New Labour. (Why should they be different? They're politicians!)

What a rotten time that will be to find it was all wishful thinking and spin – when we're finally adrift in our own canoe and have no choice but to keep paddling!

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Stoo,

Borders 21/01/2007 15:59:12

'We remain committed to our declared neutrality on this issue.'

That one fair cheered me up this morning - LOL.

Right next to that wee weasel Wilson's next diatribe against independence.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 21/01/2007 18:05:35

Do I sniff a deal being made between a "quality Sunday broadsheet with a mjority of AB readers" here?

Debate reporting says the SNP haven't used the Iraq "war" as a Holyrood issue in their election campaign so far, yet the editorial fears it will dominate along with Trident.

Wait and see if the SNP gets fair coverage and the war in Iraq is played down by the SNP.

SNP should tell the SOS stable to eff off if that's the case. They're rumbled.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 21/01/2007 18:30:04

Lest we forget, the Scotsman and SOS waved Tony Blair into power in 1997 with fag packet policies.

It led me to pen (yawn) the following words, which are set to music and which I am considering posting on youtube;-

We are, we will be, we were way back when
Ian had a balanced word for all his people then
Changed days and changed ways as no change came around
Gathering new following, worshipping the ground.

Out of the woodwork and onto the press
Throwbacks, crony hacks, newjays (NUJs) with redress
Bravehearts will depart when they get put down
And Old Red Wanda (anag) gets the Peter Fonda easy ride to town.

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Dave M,

22/01/2007 00:14:52

Nothing could punish Labour enough for the death and destruction caused by the Iraq 'war'.

Jail sentences for Blair and Brown would be a positive start though.

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Neil,

9% Growth Party 22/01/2007 18:51:41

And even moreso against Yugoslavia since that war was even more clearly illegal, fought against civilians & fought quite deliberately to commit Nazi genocide.

But not as unfashionable.

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