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Published Date: 25 May 2008
MOTORISTS are abandoning their cars and taking to buses and trains because of the rocketing cost of petrol and diesel, new figures reveal.
Public transport operators in Scotland say thousands of extra journeys are now being made on their services as fuel prices reach record levels.

Official figures from the Department for Transport show that car traffic has fallen UK-wide by 2% in th
e first three months of 2008 compared with the same period of 2007.

ScotRail, which runs train services across the country, says passenger numbers have increased by at least 4% in the last year. Lothian Buses, which runs services in and around Edinburgh, reports a 5% increase while FirstGroup, which runs services in Glasgow and Aberdeen, says it has also recorded healthy rises in travellers switching to buses.

A survey by the AA motoring organisation has found that more than a third of its membership in Scotland have decided to reduce their car travel.

Experts said one of the biggest factors in recent rises in public transport use was the price of fuel. Last week, diesel prices soared to more than £6 a gallon and unleaded to around £5.30.

According to the AA, prices have shown the biggest month-on-month increase for more than a decade, with the average Scot now paying around £34 a month more to fill up their car than a year ago.

The organisation is also predicting more pain to come for motorists, with prices of crude oil – on which forecourt prices are based – hitting $135 a barrel last week and forecast to rise to $150 in the next few months.

John McCormick, chairman of the Scottish Public Transport Association, which campaigns for improvements to services, said: "Congestion on the roads has been a major factor but fuel costs are now adding to that in a big way. It's now cheaper for one person to travel to work by train than fill up the tank with petrol or diesel.

"With tanks costing upwards of £50, motorists are going to think twice about using their cars when they perhaps might not have done until relatively recently.

"I think there is real long-lasting change going on in travelling habits because fuel prices are not showing any sign of coming down significantly in the immediate future."

Commuters said fuel prices were definitely having an impact on travelling patterns. Leonie Airley, 32, from Glasgow, said: "I used to drive to work each day but thanks to the cost of petrol, I now take the subway and leave the car at home.

"I still need to use the car at the weekends, though, to visit my parents who live in the countryside. The public transport connections there simply aren't good enough."

Andrew Constable, a 36-year-old Edinburgh solicitor, said he was also changing his methods of getting to work.

"I do have a car, but try to use it as little as possible, and usually take the bus," he said. "The rise in petrol prices definitely makes me more likely to prefer public transport to driving."

Alasdair Hardman, a 55-year-old advocate from Perthshire, said he had decided to use the train to get to Edinburgh. "Living in the countryside and driving a four-wheel-drive car, I have made a concerted effort to conserve fuel as the cost continues to rise.

"Those living in the country are much harder hit by high petrol prices. I haven't noticed any serious issue with overcrowding on trains but this might change if there's a large shift to public transport."

Although public transport companies themselves face higher fuel costs, they are less concerned than airlines because fuel accounts for only 10% of their costs.

FirstGroup, which also owns ScotRail, says rapidly escalating oil prices are boosting its business. In Glasgow, passenger numbers had increased by 3% in the last year.

Lothian Buses said passenger numbers increased by eight million last year, up to 114 million, with rising fuel prices a significant factor.

A spokesman said: "We have been seeing an average increase of around 4%-5% a year every year since 1998. A combination of factors is behind this,

but the rising price of fuel for private motorists has had an effect, especially in recent months."

Motoring organisations said it was too early to tell whether the shift to public transport would be permanent.

A spokesman for the AA said: "If there is to be a significant move to public transport, a great deal will depend on the public transport experience: the lack of flexibility encountered by many public transport users can prove incompatible with the demands of a busy schedule."

• Sir Richard Branson has predicted further misery for rail passengers travelling on the West Coast Mainline as the route undergoes a £8.6bn upgrade.

The Virgin chairman warned that disruption caused by closures on the Scotland to London line could get worse if Network Rail sticks to a plan to complete the work by December.



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  • Last Updated: 24 May 2008 8:03 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: ScotRail , The railways
 
1

Green booger,

25/05/2008 00:38:39
Producers say $200 oil is possible as prices hit record three days running

Oil Expert: By Summer, Oil To Hit $200 Per Barrel

http://www.prisonplanet.com/
2

truthsleuth,

25/05/2008 01:05:34
This shows that fuel PRICE has the desired effect and motorists will give up their cars if even only for selected journeys.

The question is whether the Government will divert the increased tax revenue into rail and bus improvement and equally importantly close down the road building program and divert these funds int improvements in rail and bus.

The final peg would be to stop local airport and runway expansion at major airports and use the funds released to build high speed lines to serve all major uk cities.

Lets get on with it and stop living in the past.
3

Guga II,

Rockall 25/05/2008 06:08:27
Given that food prices are increasing by around 32%, and that the high cost of fuel has an inflationary affect on everything, it won't just be a matter of people switching to public transport. The whole economy is going down the tubes rapidly. Meanwhile, Maggie Broon's tax theft from the people is increasing rapidly also.

Incidentally, can anyone explain to me why, when it is cheaper to produce diesel than petrol, diesel is around 15p per litre dearer than petrol?

4

Sinead,

Tanunda 25/05/2008 07:29:24
#3 I agree. Diesel here was 180cents per litre here 24/5/08, and unleaded petrol was 163cents per litre.
If my maths is correct (not crash hot in maths) your petrol per litre would be $5.50 per litre Wow!
5

Dooogie,

Highland 25/05/2008 07:31:12
Can anyone explain why diesel is cheaper than petrol in New Zealand ? - and a hell of a lot cheaper than here in the UK.
6

Mallory,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 07:59:58
Question
Incidentally, can anyone explain to me why, when it is cheaper to produce diesel than petrol, diesel is around 15p per litre dearer than petrol?

Possible answer
Pollution, diesel particulates- a major health hazard
7

Guga II,

Rockall 25/05/2008 08:24:03
#6. It's not that long since diesel was cheaper to buy than petrol. So what you are saying is that this is another, green, form of stealth tax by our corrupt government?

Incidentally, diesel is a lot cleaner, and diesel engines are a lot cleaner and more efficient than they used to be. Maybe it's a con by the big petrol companies now that there are a lot more cars using diesel.

#4 Sinead.

Where I am, we are currently paying £1-37.9 a litre for diesel and £1-22.9 for petrol. Most of it, around 70%, goes in tax to our thieving, corrupt government.
8

SouthernSkye,

Bonnie Bonn 25/05/2008 09:03:37
Here in Germany Diesel has now, for reasons I have not yet had made clear to me, caught up with petrol.
I will look into this and try to find out wy this is as diesel was always cheaper than petrol.
Current prices are Eu1.50 a litre diesel and petrol.
9

11+failed,

the pans 25/05/2008 09:34:00
At last our Labour government is getting all these upstart working class and pensioner types out of their cars that Thatcher encouraged them to buy and back on the buses where they belong.
10

11+failed,

the pans 25/05/2008 09:39:37
#2 truthsleuth
"Lets get on with it and stop living in the past."
Seems it is you who wants to take us all back 100 years with your daft myopic outlook on the world.
11

11+failed,

the pans 25/05/2008 09:48:33
The relative prices of diesel and petrol are determined by refinery capacity and local demand. For example heavy winter demand for heating oil(diesel) and high summer demand for road fuel(petrol). Additionally the rapid switch to diesel from petrol for vans and cars particularly in the past 3 years.
12

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 10:25:36
Bring on more price rises. Get more lazy barstewards out of their motors and onto public transport. Get those fat little sods out of mummy's motor and walking to school. And just why some advocate needs to drive (alone in the motor, no doubt) a 4X4 to get from Perthshire to Edinburgh beats me.
13

Andrew.,

Oxford 25/05/2008 10:59:55
Expect Rail & Bus fares to rise in line with fuel prices and, of course, to reduce demand for "precious" capacity.

The service between Oxford & London and Stirling & Edinburgh are a good comparison. Both university cities that are popuplar with commuters, linking into country capital, and approximately the same distance - both services run by First Group.

A peak return from Stirling to Edinburgh costs around £12, a peak return from Oxford to London costs around £44...
14

drew 33,

25/05/2008 11:05:59
12 Draco Was a Wimp,

"Get those fat little sods out of mummy's motor and walking to school"

So that they can be knifed on their way to school or mown down by one of these black smoke spewing buses!
15

jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow 25/05/2008 11:42:08
The trouble is that higher fuel prices will lead to higher prices for everything. Bus fares will go up and prices for everything in the shops will go up as goods have to be transported by road in most cases.
16

carrottop,

Dumfries 25/05/2008 11:49:32
Would it not be better to heavily increase the research into alternative fuel transport and get a quick replacement for petrol than spew out negative comments and act like Luddites. Whether we like it or not the car employs a lot of people from manufacturing, mechanic to fuel stations and has given ordinary people the freedom to travel when they feel like to where ever they want. I for one dont want to go back to the days when I doff my cap to the doctor and lawyer from the side of the road as they make their privileged way past.
17

Iain Howard Adam,

Perth, Western Australia 25/05/2008 12:10:56
I had my car 3.8 L engine converted to run on LPG last December. It cost me about $3600 however the government rebates are presently at $3000, so it was a good move. It runs well, don't notice any reduction in performance and I have cut my fuel costs by 50%.
18

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 12:29:06
#14 Drew

I'm sorry, but it's comments like that that make our children increasingly a generation of cotton wool-wrapped wimps. Yes, there are some horror stories around, but like being dragged off by some paedophile, their chances of being stabbed or interfered with remain very small. And if they're too stupid to cross a road without being run over, then I weep for our future as a nation. The fact that they're increasingly overweight and that the school run is a significant factor in pollution and congestion is more of a reality.
19

drew 33,

25/05/2008 12:38:28
18 Draco Was a Wimp,
Edinburgh 25/05/2008 12:29:06

"Yes, there are some horror stories around, but like being dragged off by some paedophile, their chances of being stabbed or interfered with remain very small"
The risk might be 0.001% but when it is your daughter it is 100%!
20

The Ghost of Sir William Arrol,

The Forthy Bridge 25/05/2008 13:36:27
There should be more investment in rail, trams, high-speed rail etc and no new road schemes, unless for improving accident black-spots. Do many people realise that in twenty years time the UK will probably not be able to afford the tar-mac (based on oil) to maintain the roads we already have. You only need to look at the streets in Edinburgh to see where we're heading.

The worrying thing is that $200/bbl is just the beginning of the price rise cycle as global oil supplies become exhausted. We're all going to have to change the way we use energy. Of course there will be those who say nothing will get them out of their cars and on to public transport. Time, and a dose of high cost reality, will probably change that.
21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 25/05/2008 13:51:46
Here in Canada petrol prices are expected to reach $1.50/litre AT LEAST during the summer travel season.

Many friends and acquaintances of mine are curtailing their vacation plans because of the exorbitant prices.

Get used to it folks, you ain't seen nothing yet with regard to petrol prices.

Blame it on the corrupt government of President BabyBush (and previously, his corrupt father) and his unholy alliance with the corrupt "royal" family of Saudi Arabia - filthy and lying and duplicitous spawn of illiterate desert thieves, rapists, paedophiles, and adherents of the spurious "religion" Islam and its illiterate "prophet" Mohamed - also an illiterate, thief, rapist, paedophile, and fraud.

The so-called "Holy Quaran" is a murderous, vindictive assemblage of various writings from various authors and surpasses the Old Testament in its gruesome punishments for not following its many, many strictures that are laughable in today's world - just as the punishments meted out in the Biblical Old Testament are also laughable.
22

Guga II,

Rockall 25/05/2008 15:27:10
#21 TCW It's not like you to be quite so violently outspoken, especially about royalty.
23

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 25/05/2008 20:29:55
Diesel is cheaper to refine. Its cost at the pumps is due to the supply and demand factor with fuel suppliers "reasoning" that if diesel motors are becoming more popular than petrol, they might as well whack the price up and we the dumb UK buying public will swallow that along with the notion that fuel in general is in short supply, when it isn't. Notice how Gordon has been listening and learning about this major source of discontent and hardship and now proposes to do - as usual - NOTHING! Because of course the higher the unit cost of a litre of diesel the higher tax and VAT he receives as a result. Crocodile tears. It's time for him to feel our pain.

Spot how well he deals with other energy costs too.
24

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/05/2008 00:03:19
22 Guga II

As my posting indicated, the ruling family of Saudi Arabia is not "royal" in any sense of the word and I ALWAYS put quotes around that honourific as it applies to that assemblage of assinine and corrupt oligarchs.

They are parvenu peasants and duplicitous businessmen who have a VERY checkered history replete with betrayals, assassinations, murders, lies, deceits, and th rest of the peasantly pleasantries.

A curse on the "House of Sa'ud" and its conniving denizens!
25

tomi,

26/05/2008 04:43:10
Now that more and more people are using public transport, does that give the transport operators an excuse to screw passengers with higher fares to force them back into their cars?
Unfortunately, it does; and they will do if they can get away with it.
26

geekpie,

forfar 26/05/2008 17:15:55
It's good news that petrol is going up. There are too many cars on the road so children can't walk to school any more.

 

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